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So everyone is alright with the MC grooming and brainwashing a girl?
Oct 27, 2021 4:38 PM
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Title. So everybody is cool with that right?
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Oct 27, 2021 4:43 PM
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Yeah lmao he was never a good guy to begin with.
Did you not pay attention to the first episode? It would've actually been weird if he didn't try to brainwash her, he has always been a manipulative person.

And the whole grooming thing, just stop, that scene wasn't even in the original and he is not actually grooming her, I know from the LN that he doesn't have any lewd interests in children.
Oct 27, 2021 4:47 PM
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An assassin manipulating someone. Shocking.

Also, his goals and reasons were clearly explained.
Oct 27, 2021 4:49 PM
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Yeah lmao he was never a good guy to begin with.
Did you not pay attention to the first episode? It would've actually been weird if he didn't try to brainwash her, he has always been a manipulative person.

And the whole grooming thing, just stop, that scene wasn't even in the original and he is not actually grooming her, I know from the LN that he doesn't have any lewd interests in children.


Never had a problem with "controversial" content. In fact, I like MC that got balls. Which is why I love Mushoku Tensei and have been following it for years now.
Made this thread because to see why this show didn't become "controversial" after ep 4. Whereas Mushoku Tensei got so hate much for classic ecchi elements LMAO
Oct 27, 2021 4:50 PM
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How to spread hatred towards an anime when the animation and the story is good?

"Be a feminist"
Oct 27, 2021 4:53 PM
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Dragevard said:
MadanielFL said:
Yeah lmao he was never a good guy to begin with.
Did you not pay attention to the first episode? It would've actually been weird if he didn't try to brainwash her, he has always been a manipulative person.

And the whole grooming thing, just stop, that scene wasn't even in the original and he is not actually grooming her, I know from the LN that he doesn't have any lewd interests in children.


Never had a problem with "controversial" content. In fact, I like MC that got balls. Which is why I love Mushoku Tensei.
Made this thread because to see why this show didn't become "controversial" after ep 4. Whereas Mushoku Tensei got so hate much for ecchi content LMAO
Didn't have to put the "everyone is alright with the MC grooming and brainwashing a girl" in the title then, it will imply that the people who like the show are supportive of these things.

Should've been more like: Isn't it interesting that instead of a loser guy gets op for no reason, we have an experienced dude that's not a softie and is willing to use methods from his old life such as brainwashing in order to achieve his goals?
Oct 27, 2021 5:04 PM
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MadanielFL said:
Dragevard said:


Never had a problem with "controversial" content. In fact, I like MC that got balls. Which is why I love Mushoku Tensei.
Made this thread because to see why this show didn't become "controversial" after ep 4. Whereas Mushoku Tensei got so hate much for ecchi content LMAO
Didn't have to put the "everyone is alright with the MC grooming and brainwashing a girl" in the title then, it will imply that the people who like the show are supportive of these things.

Should've been more like: Isn't it interesting that instead of a loser guy gets op for no reason, we have an experienced dude that's not a softie and is willing to use methods from his old life such as brainwashing in order to achieve his goals?


Doesn't imply such a thing; only ppl who overthink/hate such content/topic will think otherwise
Oct 27, 2021 5:11 PM
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I'm surprised OP isn't mad at the MC sleeping with a young girl in the same bed in the previous episode
Oct 27, 2021 5:27 PM
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He spent all his previous life bottling up his emotions and was a stone cold assassin, not too surprising. Deep down, I maybe wished he was doing it out of the goodness of his heart, but had a little laugh with that "brainwashing complete" sequence.

I think as the anime goes on, he'll slowly start to better appreciate everything and open up more, maybe....
Oct 27, 2021 5:28 PM

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Dude, there's literally Mushoku Tensei airing in the same season where people were whining about grooming and shit. I don't see an issue here. If anything, my issues will be more from the characters and storywriting standpoint.
Oct 27, 2021 5:33 PM
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I mean technically yeah, the mc have a mission so he needs some assistance to assassinate a hero then after his mission is done. He can live freely.
Oct 27, 2021 5:36 PM
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Dragevard said:
Title. So everybody is cool with that right?
He hasn’t groomed her to our knowledge and besides that it was obvious he had no affection for her from his lack of reaction in the last 5 minutes of him testing her mana and technique and her wake up methods
Being human is making mistakes.
Oct 27, 2021 6:01 PM
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MadanielFL said:
Yeah lmao he was never a good guy to begin with.
Did you not pay attention to the first episode? It would've actually been weird if he didn't try to brainwash her, he has always been a manipulative person.

And the whole grooming thing, just stop, that scene wasn't even in the original and he is not actually grooming her, I know from the LN that he doesn't have any lewd interests in children.


Probably just a form of coping with Mushoku's criticism, where the MC genuinely does want to have lewd conduct with children. Very weirdly defensive for it to be brought up in an entirely different show, where the MC has thus far been shown to be entirely asexual.
Oct 27, 2021 6:14 PM
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I mean he saved her from certain death... even though he shouldnt be doing what is doing. Mf has a mission he needs to see it through. Wondering if he will try to save her if anything happens or if he will give 0 fucks about it.
Oct 27, 2021 6:47 PM
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Well yeah. That’s the point of the show. The show doesn’t claim that it’s a good thing to do. No one asks if we’re okay with Light causing all those people to die in Death Note because that’s the point. If everyone was well behaved, then there wouldn’t be a story to tell.
Oct 27, 2021 7:40 PM

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he is master manipulator
he just can’t help it


and also he never shows any sort of interest towards the girl
(also im pretty sure the grooming isnt on the original story)

Oct 27, 2021 7:54 PM

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I think people who add cream cheese in their sushi are worse.
Oct 27, 2021 8:10 PM

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Why do people do those questions in shows that obviously are made to NOT CARE about those topics?? Goblin Slayer was the same thing, Mushoku, Redo of Healer, even Shield Hero for f*ck sake!

Well, I hope the OP has his/her answer. Now, let's focus on what matters.
For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations.
Oct 27, 2021 8:14 PM
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Dragevard said:
MadanielFL said:
Yeah lmao he was never a good guy to begin with.
Did you not pay attention to the first episode? It would've actually been weird if he didn't try to brainwash her, he has always been a manipulative person.

And the whole grooming thing, just stop, that scene wasn't even in the original and he is not actually grooming her, I know from the LN that he doesn't have any lewd interests in children.


Never had a problem with "controversial" content. In fact, I like MC that got balls. Which is why I love Mushoku Tensei and have been following it for years now.
Made this thread because to see why this show didn't become "controversial" after ep 4. Whereas Mushoku Tensei got so hate much for classic ecchi elements LMAO

Well to be fair, the main character never does anything to the girl or act weird about it. Rudeus is drooling over kids every episode. They really aren't comparable. Not to say I don't enjoy Mushoku Tensei, but it can be a little much sometimes
Oct 27, 2021 8:22 PM

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r_justo said:
Why do people do those questions in shows that obviously are made to NOT CARE about those topics?? Goblin Slayer was the same thing, Mushoku, Redo of Healer, even Shield Hero for f*ck sake!

Well, I hope the OP has his/her answer. Now, let's focus on what matters.
He won't answer, it's a direct checkmate for him, Op is just trying to spread hate but the statements he made are just a blunder for him LOL xD
Oct 27, 2021 8:46 PM

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I think people who add cream cheese in their sushi are worse.


Hahaha. 😂

I guess can't argue with that.
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Oct 27, 2021 8:56 PM

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Yes, that's why I read hentai manga too.
Oct 27, 2021 9:06 PM
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Normally when a protagonist is kinda scummy it leaves a bas taste in the mouth, however, in this case it felt like a very intentional story + character decision that contributed to the running plot. Plus, it's not like this show was trying to be "appropriate" in any way from the start.
Oct 27, 2021 9:07 PM
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Hrybami said:
I think people who add cream cheese in their sushi are worse.

Wait that's a thing... oh no
Oct 27, 2021 9:17 PM
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rest assured that later on he began to be more human and genuinely cared about Tarte or Maha. Tarte and Maha are the important family of Lugh. Lugh is only obsessed with "trust" and tries to make them completely loyal, if betrayed, he must kill them with his own hands.
Oct 27, 2021 9:19 PM

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Man I really liked episode 3, where it felt like he opened himself up emotionally to someone and formed a genuine bond with another human being. It's a shame that within the span of half a minute, they ruined all that good will by giving him a triumphant monologue about brainwashing a child.

I think this show would be like 90% better, if they cut out most of his inner monologues and just focused on either world building, character interactions or anything else. Most of his inner thoughts are just repeating things the audience already knows or obnoxious expansions on how cool his powers are. But don't pay attention to me, I've hated Lugh since episode 1, where I thought he was an unlikable jerk then and I still hate him now. I'm just here for the trashy story telling and the supporting cast.
Oct 27, 2021 9:42 PM
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Dragevard said:
MadanielFL said:
Yeah lmao he was never a good guy to begin with.
Did you not pay attention to the first episode? It would've actually been weird if he didn't try to brainwash her, he has always been a manipulative person.

And the whole grooming thing, just stop, that scene wasn't even in the original and he is not actually grooming her, I know from the LN that he doesn't have any lewd interests in children.


Never had a problem with "controversial" content. In fact, I like MC that got balls. Which is why I love Mushoku Tensei and have been following it for years now.
Made this thread because to see why this show didn't become "controversial" after ep 4. Whereas Mushoku Tensei got so hate much for classic ecchi elements LMAO


I feel it’s almost the exact opposite; this mc clearly has no interest in women in that way and is solely manipulating her to be a tool in his plan to assassinate the hero; rudeus is legit a creep and deserves the ridicule for being almost exclusively interested in the women of any age he encounters specifically for sexual desires

I’ve given that show another chance and I’m happy to see him finally grow, but I think it’s almost laughable to “appreciate Mushoku” while trying to call out this show for a much less offensive act
Oct 27, 2021 9:44 PM

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It might be a bit wrong, but it’s either brainwashing, or dying in a forest. She made out pretty well in the end. Still, a bit messed up.
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Oct 27, 2021 9:48 PM
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are you implying political correct to anime ?

talt is loved by his family and become his family in the end.

dude, real people much more worse if you forgot real life.
Oct 27, 2021 10:26 PM
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Considering the alternative was letting the girl get brutally massacred by wolves, yeah, I think rescuing, feeding, giving her purpose, and finally- and most importantly- giving her the final decision was the right choice.
Oct 27, 2021 10:26 PM
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No. But don't forget who the mc is. She's just a tool for him. And hes doing the same thing his "father" did to him. He doesn't see her with lewd intentions.
Oct 27, 2021 10:29 PM
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animedude1287 said:
It might be a bit wrong, but it’s with brainwashing, or dying in a forest. She made out pretty well in the end. Still, a bit messed up.

I agree. His reasoning for rescuing her is messed up. The MCs intention is the only thing that makes me queasy, but he's a 30-40 year old emotionless assassin, in a 10-year old body, so I wasn't expecting a moral paragon from the start. That said, letting the girl die would've been worse.
Oct 27, 2021 10:41 PM
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At starting he thinks of only using tarte as a tool so he brainwashes her but later he becomes close to her and develops feelings on her.
Oct 27, 2021 10:43 PM
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I am not tsurprised at all villains being villains in an a cancerous isekai.

Oct 27, 2021 10:47 PM

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Absolutely chad move 🔥🔥🔥
Oct 27, 2021 11:25 PM
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Big fat voluptuous round anime tiddies
Oct 28, 2021 1:00 AM
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I mean I have no problem. and considering his personality , it would be weird if he didnt use her. Plus the.grooming thing is just for training. I'm sure sue understands that too
Oct 28, 2021 1:50 AM

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It’s quite refreshing to see a protagonist who is not a typical good guy and is not afraid to use people to achieve his goal, especially considering Tarte is a child. It’s pretty natural given his previous personality and way of life.


Also I honestly didn’t even see a problem with that scene until I read this post and neither should other people. It’s a part of a training, same thing Lugh went through. He doesn’t care whether Tarte is a girl or a boy - it’s just pure physical measurement to adjust her training. Nothing sexual there.
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For fuck sake stop pressing [Right] button and skipping like 5-10 seconds every 2 second because you're unsatisfied from a scene and finds a "brainwashing and grooming" that looks like no context rape from you.
Oct 28, 2021 3:08 AM
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I didn't expect that he was magically going to become a completely empathetic, kind person, lol. He's an assassin, raised by an assassin. Of course what he's doing is morally wrong, this is not a show about good people doing good things. You should know that from the title. Our protagonist has done, and will do bad things.
Oct 28, 2021 6:38 AM
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Lol YES . Its from the same creator of redo of healer what did you expect?😂
Oct 28, 2021 6:44 AM

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Damn sounds awesome! I wanna watch it now
Oct 28, 2021 7:11 AM

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>being an assassin that killed many people
Okay
>groomed some girl into being his assistant instead of leaving her to die
Noooo wtf?????
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Oct 28, 2021 7:20 AM
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Here we go again with this kind of thread...
Lmao
Oct 28, 2021 7:22 AM

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Lugh gave her a chance at life unlike her biological parents.

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Oct 28, 2021 7:33 AM
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I don't really have a problem with him using people, but Tarte is a pretty boring character so far. I really liked his bond with Dia, and Dia stood out to me as just a well-written character. Hopefully Tarte shows that she has a personality apart from wanting to serve her master.
Oct 28, 2021 7:42 AM
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Yes. Who wouldn't want a manipulative MC? :3
Oct 28, 2021 7:48 AM
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It’s an anime not dick dont take it so hard
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Violet42 said:
I didn't expect that he was magically going to become a completely empathetic, kind person, lol. He's an assassin, raised by an assassin. Of course what he's doing is morally wrong, this is not a show about good people doing good things. You should know that from the title. Our protagonist has done, and will do bad things.


OH!! If at least half of the persons that do this type of threads could at least read this comment and comprehend it, the world of anime would be a better place!!
You, Sir, deserve a medal!!
r_justoOct 28, 2021 7:55 AM
For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations.
Oct 28, 2021 7:59 AM

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People from the Mushoku Tensei fandom seem to really hate this anime, they lead opinions to make this anime hated, a few days ago I remember there was a thread saying this is plagiarism from Mushoku Tensei just because there are some similarities.
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