'Star Wars: Visions' Reveals Cast Members, First Trailer

Thigh_Tide said:


First of all, you say that you still disagree, but you have not provided a rebuttal. You have not demonstrated an ability to further support your point, and until you do so nobody is going to assume you still can. Like I said before, if you disagree with my last statement, make a counterargument, otherwise I'll go right ahead and take it to mean you're chickening out.

Second, what statements did I make without a basis? I pointed out several pieces of information that explained my view in no uncertain terms. You're once again just spouting vague, unsupported insults instead of making meaningful points.



What you find creative and how it in fact is not is addressed later, see below.



This appears to be your opinion that something cannot be judged until it is out again. I already explained why I disagree with this idea and why there is no reason your view should apply to all. As noted above, you didn't make a rebuttal, to it. You attempting to maintain this view in the face of being shown a flaw with it is disingenuous and thus meaningless.



Once again this is a case of you saying something is creative without exploring why. Elaborate on which synopses you think present worthwhile new ideas.



This is again just a plain insult. You made a vague declaration, it requires elaboration. Complaining about the matter suggests a lack of confidence in your earlier statement.



That's not "creativity" though. Like you point out, they're "doing their thing" - not challenging the very medium, not using the space to explore an entirely new way to tell stories, and most importantly just plain not doing anything they haven't before. It's not being creative, it's being compliant. They're doing what they've been hired to do, and nothing more.

In fact, it raises the question of what you think creativity in television is full stop. Judging by what you've said here, it's just doing what's been done before, without thinking of why it was done and why it won't work once more. Any artist can tell you that challenging themselves, surpassing their own work is the pursuit of creativity.



All of those things, except perhaps the Umbrella, have been done before. And even that's not much, because shoving a lightsaber onto another object isn't creative, it's an obligation. Every instalment of Star Wars does it, and always just to sell toys, which goes back around to what I pointed out was the prevailing flaw of the franchise.



That's even further away from my point then you were last time. This has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about. How is this supposed to be responding to what I said?



Are you genuinely saying that I "ignored the fact they worked on American animated titles," immediately after I explicitly talked about the process behind working on American animated titles? You're just lying about what I did or did not say. You're gaslighting.



For the fifth time, that wasn't my point. And you're not addressing what I said before, so I repeat the question.



And just as I said before, if you feel the need to complain about being asked to elaborate your point, that suggests said point is groundless. That you're bluffing, essentially. Regardless, I've already responded to how what you think is creative is in fact merely retreading existing ideas and styles - just like what the Star Wars franchise has been doing.

Thigh_Tide said:


First of all, you say that you still disagree, but you have not provided a rebuttal. You have not demonstrated an ability to further support your point, and until you do so nobody is going to assume you still can. Like I said before, if you disagree with my last statement, make a counterargument, otherwise I'll go right ahead and take it to mean you're chickening out.

Second, what statements did I make without a basis? I pointed out several pieces of information that explained my view in no uncertain terms. You're once again just spouting vague, unsupported insults instead of making meaningful points.



What you find creative and how it in fact is not is addressed later, see below.



This appears to be your opinion that something cannot be judged until it is out again. I already explained why I disagree with this idea and why there is no reason your view should apply to all. As noted above, you didn't make a rebuttal, to it. You attempting to maintain this view in the face of being shown a flaw with it is disingenuous and thus meaningless.



Once again this is a case of you saying something is creative without exploring why. Elaborate on which synopses you think present worthwhile new ideas.



This is again just a plain insult. You made a vague declaration, it requires elaboration. Complaining about the matter suggests a lack of confidence in your earlier statement.



That's not "creativity" though. Like you point out, they're "doing their thing" - not challenging the very medium, not using the space to explore an entirely new way to tell stories, and most importantly just plain not doing anything they haven't before. It's not being creative, it's being compliant. They're doing what they've been hired to do, and nothing more.

In fact, it raises the question of what you think creativity in television is full stop. Judging by what you've said here, it's just doing what's been done before, without thinking of why it was done and why it won't work once more. Any artist can tell you that challenging themselves, surpassing their own work is the pursuit of creativity.



All of those things, except perhaps the Umbrella, have been done before. And even that's not much, because shoving a lightsaber onto another object isn't creative, it's an obligation. Every instalment of Star Wars does it, and always just to sell toys, which goes back around to what I pointed out was the prevailing flaw of the franchise.



That's even further away from my point then you were last time. This has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about. How is this supposed to be responding to what I said?



Are you genuinely saying that I "ignored the fact they worked on American animated titles," immediately after I explicitly talked about the process behind working on American animated titles? You're just lying about what I did or did not say. You're gaslighting.



For the fifth time, that wasn't my point. And you're not addressing what I said before, so I repeat the question.



And just as I said before, if you feel the need to complain about being asked to elaborate your point, that suggests said point is groundless. That you're bluffing, essentially. Regardless, I've already responded to how what you think is creative is in fact merely retreading existing ideas and styles - just like what the Star Wars franchise has been doing.