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Aug 9, 2021 5:32 PM
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I remember Yasuke, and how one animator reported that Netflix was paying bottom tier rates for their animation, and thus, leading to the quality of the show slipping.

If that's what they'll do for Studio Mappa, imagine what they'd do for David Productions.
Aug 9, 2021 5:34 PM
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kinda worried too, but remember part 6 release gap is longer than other part release gap
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Aug 9, 2021 5:40 PM
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Netflix doesn't have anything to do with the production , so how can it effect the quality . There are other anime on netflix and cruchyroll too that they don't make . Production has nothing to do with where it is released . They are probably releasing it on Netflix because of the Profit and how accessible it is to more people since it is available in more countries and has the most no. of subscribers .
Aug 9, 2021 5:56 PM
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David production is making the show, not Netflix. They only license to be streaming on the platform.
Aug 9, 2021 5:59 PM
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Netflix is just funding DP (at least in part). It's still the same team as previous parts.
Aug 9, 2021 6:00 PM
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Nah it’ll be fine. Netflix doesn’t have a say in production; they just have the streaming rights.
Aug 9, 2021 6:09 PM
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Netflix is just distributing it, they aren't animating it themselves. Why is this so hard for people to understand
Avatar: The Last Airbender is an anime
Aug 9, 2021 6:24 PM
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But I want more Castlevania...It's better than most of the anime I consume on a daily basis.
Aug 9, 2021 7:45 PM
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Yasukes problems were that it wasnt historically accurate and went for a weird setting that didn't work at all. With that shows script it didnt matter what the budget was honestly.

Great pretender was mostly great. Little witch academia was also fantastic. Thus I dont think its neccessarily just netflixs fault.
He died doing what he wanted, no matter what, right? I bet he was happy.

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Aug 9, 2021 7:56 PM
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Netflix has the streaming rights, nothing else. They have absolutely no control over the series itself
Aug 9, 2021 8:01 PM
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is David Production even part of the Production Committee of Jojo? or they are just hired contractors by the Production Committee? if so blame the Production Committee for this decision

Aug 9, 2021 9:21 PM
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Tylaen said:
But I want more Castlevania...It's better than most of the anime I consume on a daily basis.

Go bitch about it on other thread
Aug 9, 2021 9:23 PM
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Netflix doesnt mean shit. They just bought the streaming rights for it, they werent behind David Production's back telling them what to do. So dont worry, nothing will change to jojo.
Aug 9, 2021 9:42 PM
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Maybe, Netflix probably just bought the license similar to Shaman King or the Rohan OVA's, so it may not matter that much
Aug 9, 2021 9:48 PM
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If you're concerned about the money that DP is going to make then don't worry Netflix definitely has to cough up bank for the part 6. Also Netflix doesn't control the animation in any way shape or form they just fund it and don't worry about the animation quality since it's going to be David Productions doing their best as always.
Aug 10, 2021 1:53 AM

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Dkstruction said:
Tylaen said:
But I want more Castlevania...It's better than most of the anime I consume on a daily basis.

Go bitch about it on other thread
But how will that upset fragile weebs like yourself?
Aug 10, 2021 2:23 AM
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Tylaen said:
Dkstruction said:

Go bitch about it on other thread
But how will that upset fragile weebs like yourself?
I didn't know that you are quite of a masochist
Aug 10, 2021 4:11 AM
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Just becouse it's streaming on Netflix doesn't mean they have anything to do with it's the same for pretty much all the anime on the service
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Aug 10, 2021 4:56 AM
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OVERLORD696969 said:
Netflix doesn't have anything to do with the production , so how can it effect the quality . There are other anime on netflix and cruchyroll too that they don't make . Production has nothing to do with where it is released . They are probably releasing it on Netflix because of the Profit and how accessible it is to more people since it is available in more countries and has the most no. of subscribers .


They are the funders, however, and I do remember Yasuke...
Aug 10, 2021 4:57 AM
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Salty-GB said:
Netflix is just funding DP (at least in part). It's still the same team as previous parts.


Funding them is the issue. Yasuke got literally 6 episodes, not to mention, they've gotten a ton of problems with being funded.
Aug 10, 2021 4:58 AM
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HakeemP said:
Netflix is just distributing it, they aren't animating it themselves. Why is this so hard for people to understand


Uh... What? I never said that they were the animators. What I did say is that Yasuke was paid for by Netflix, and Netflix was paying bottom tier rates for Yasuke's animators.
Aug 10, 2021 5:00 AM
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Mattinator95 said:
Just becouse it's streaming on Netflix doesn't mean they have anything to do with it's the same for pretty much all the anime on the service


They have to pay something to license it. Considering Netflix is exclusively streaming it, when I don't even think they have had part 4 for a while, means that they paid something extreme to get it exclusively on Netflix.

Not to mention, I'm worried about the animators not being paid a fair wage.
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racers551 said:
Salty-GB said:
Netflix is just funding DP (at least in part). It's still the same team as previous parts.


Funding them is the issue. Yasuke got literally 6 episodes, not to mention, they've gotten a ton of problems with being funded.


That's not the same situation though. Like... the committee and DP likely just shopped around the streaming rights and Netflix bought. They don't have any role in the actual production, just paying so they can host it first.
Aug 10, 2021 6:02 AM

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The only thing yasuke had going for it (except for the music) was the production quality.
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This is not Netflix original. Chill.
Aug 10, 2021 6:56 AM
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Netflix also had Great pretenders and it looked GREAT. So I don't think they'd skimp out on JoJo
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All netflix would be doing is funding it but I am still worried about the visual
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Aug 10, 2021 8:14 AM
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racers551 said:
OVERLORD696969 said:
Netflix doesn't have anything to do with the production , so how can it effect the quality . There are other anime on netflix and cruchyroll too that they don't make . Production has nothing to do with where it is released . They are probably releasing it on Netflix because of the Profit and how accessible it is to more people since it is available in more countries and has the most no. of subscribers .


They are the funders, however, and I do remember Yasuke...
Yasuke is a Netflix Original . It was their idea and they had every say in it including production . Jojo is'nt their's .
Aug 10, 2021 8:38 AM
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Salty-GB said:
racers551 said:


Funding them is the issue. Yasuke got literally 6 episodes, not to mention, they've gotten a ton of problems with being funded.


That's not the same situation though. Like... the committee and DP likely just shopped around the streaming rights and Netflix bought. They don't have any role in the actual production, just paying so they can host it first.


I mean, with how Netflix managed to snag this up, when they didn't even have part 4 for the longest time, makes me a little bit suspicious.
Aug 10, 2021 8:45 AM
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Netflix isn't funding the anime at all, if only you spent more time researching than crying.
Aug 10, 2021 8:54 AM
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OVERLORD696969 said:
racers551 said:


They are the funders, however, and I do remember Yasuke...
Yasuke is a Netflix Original . It was their idea and they had every say in it including production . Jojo is'nt their's .


I mean, they still control funding for the series, Netflix. And from Yasuke, I can tell they do not like giving the animators good pay.
Aug 10, 2021 9:01 AM
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racers551 said:
OVERLORD696969 said:
Yasuke is a Netflix Original . It was their idea and they had every say in it including production . Jojo is'nt their's .


I mean, they still control funding for the series, Netflix. And from Yasuke, I can tell they do not like giving the animators good pay.
They don't give animation salary . That is the production companies job. Netflix just chooses which production company will produce their original show's based on the budget they have for it . Yasuke wasn't that good because Netflix didn't have a large budget for it. But everything related to jojo is not related to Netflix in any way even the production quality or the budget . Netflix will release Jojo just like Cruchyroll relese all their anime .
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racers551 said:
OVERLORD696969 said:
Yasuke is a Netflix Original . It was their idea and they had every say in it including production . Jojo is'nt their's .


I mean, they still control funding for the series, Netflix. And from Yasuke, I can tell they do not like giving the animators good pay.
Netflix doesnt control the funding of David’s animators; they only have streaming rights of Jojo part 6, nothing else. Yasuke was an original anime directly funded by Netflix that had a hellish 3 year production schedule with a small team of MAPPA animators. Two completely different situations. The main difference is that we’re most likely to get all episodes at the same time instead of released weekly so my guess is that its been in production for quite some time already but just recently announced.
Aug 10, 2021 10:43 AM
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Matiiyahu said:
Netflix isn't funding the anime at all, if only you spent more time researching than crying.


If they aren't funding it, how did they get exclusive rights to stream it? Out of the goodness of David production's heart?
Aug 10, 2021 10:47 AM
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racers551 said:
Matiiyahu said:
Netflix isn't funding the anime at all, if only you spent more time researching than crying.


If they aren't funding it, how did they get exclusive rights to stream it? Out of the goodness of David production's heart?
DP is the animation studio, they don't have a say in any of this, all of the money from Netflix is probably going straight in Warner Bros pocket
Aug 10, 2021 10:48 AM
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Matiiyahu said:
racers551 said:


If they aren't funding it, how did they get exclusive rights to stream it? Out of the goodness of David production's heart?
DP is the animation studio, they don't have a say in any of this, all of the money from Netflix is probably going straight in Warner Bros pocket


They have to be funded by something. Netflix is funding the anime, otherwise, they wouldn't have exclusive rights to broadcast the series.
Aug 10, 2021 10:49 AM
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racers551 said:
Matiiyahu said:
DP is the animation studio, they don't have a say in any of this, all of the money from Netflix is probably going straight in Warner Bros pocket


They have to be funded by something. Netflix is funding the anime, otherwise, they wouldn't have exclusive rights to broadcast the series.
It's literally produced by Warner Brothers Japan, you think they're poor?
Aug 10, 2021 11:09 AM
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racers551 said:
Matiiyahu said:
DP is the animation studio, they don't have a say in any of this, all of the money from Netflix is probably going straight in Warner Bros pocket


They have to be funded by something. Netflix is funding the anime, otherwise, they wouldn't have exclusive rights to broadcast the series.


Just becouse they brought the rights to stream it exclusively ( there's going to be a tv broadcast in January) doesn't mean they funded it , Crunchyroll and Funimation get exclusive lienced anime each season dosent mean they had anything to do with the production of the Series


The series is funded either by the Jojo bizarre adventure production committee or one or few of these
Medicos Entertainment
Shueisha
The Klockworx Co., Ltd.
Warner Bros
Yomiko Advertising, Inc.

Most likely either Warner bros Japan or shueisha
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racers551 said:
Salty-GB said:


That's not the same situation though. Like... the committee and DP likely just shopped around the streaming rights and Netflix bought. They don't have any role in the actual production, just paying so they can host it first.


I mean, with how Netflix managed to snag this up, when they didn't even have part 4 for the longest time, makes me a little bit suspicious.


Again, they were likely shopping the streaming rights around. The previous parts were likely part of that deal.
Dec 3, 2021 3:02 PM
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Matiiyahu said:
Netflix isn't funding the anime at all, if only you spent more time researching than crying.


So, you see what I meant? Part 6 had a rushed af schedule. It's worse directed than even part 5.

Netflix aren't the licensers. They're the producers. That's my concern.
Dec 3, 2021 3:15 PM
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Netflix doesn't have anything to do with the production , so how can it effect the quality . There are other anime on netflix and cruchyroll too that they don't make . Production has nothing to do with where it is released . They are probably releasing it on Netflix because of the Profit and how accessible it is to more people since it is available in more countries and has the most no. of subscribers .


They do have to do with the broadcasting, which will influence the quality. Weekly series has the ability to make last minute corrections.

When MAPPA, which had 8 months to make 16 episodes for AOT, and was on one of the worst schedules for a mainstream anime,as well as one of the highest expectations for an anime, manages to deliver more sakuga and more consistency over David productions, which, we don't know what the schedule was, then that's a problem.
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racers551 said:
OVERLORD_05 said:
Netflix doesn't have anything to do with the production , so how can it effect the quality . There are other anime on netflix and cruchyroll too that they don't make . Production has nothing to do with where it is released . They are probably releasing it on Netflix because of the Profit and how accessible it is to more people since it is available in more countries and has the most no. of subscribers .


They do have to do with the broadcasting, which will influence the quality. Weekly series has the ability to make last minute corrections.

When MAPPA, which had 8 months to make 16 episodes for AOT, and was on one of the worst schedules for a mainstream anime,as well as one of the highest expectations for an anime, manages to deliver more sakuga and more consistency over David productions, which, we don't know what the schedule was, then that's a problem.


Dude, you said part 5 was badly directed, when in reality it was a sakugafest. Also, can you tell me which scenes in last season of attack on titan had amazing animation? I stopped watching at 8th episode, cuz titans looked awful and overall quality was a big stepdown.
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racers551 said:


They do have to do with the broadcasting, which will influence the quality. Weekly series has the ability to make last minute corrections.

When MAPPA, which had 8 months to make 16 episodes for AOT, and was on one of the worst schedules for a mainstream anime,as well as one of the highest expectations for an anime, manages to deliver more sakuga and more consistency over David productions, which, we don't know what the schedule was, then that's a problem.


Dude, you said part 5 was badly directed, when in reality it was a sakugafest. Also, can you tell me which scenes in last season of attack on titan had amazing animation? I stopped watching at 8th episode, cuz titans looked awful and overall quality was a big stepdown.


I said part 6. Not part 5. Part 5 was amazing. But part 6 suffered, and sources confirmed that's what happened behind the scenes.

Also, I can name so many scenes from aot that stand out from part 1. Episode 1, Reiner defeating all the guys on the walls, spinning around in circles. Episode 2, the rotoscoping for dialogue, and the consistency of characters, was unmatched even by WIT. Episode 3 and 4, really good quality, with 4 being good thanks to being outsourced to Cygames. Episode 5 and 6, also pretty good, with the heaviest amount of 2d animation, also with Armin transforming. 8, also had Vercreek make a cut, with all the scouts running away with the blimp, and the artwork was better than even WIT at times. 9, 12, and 13 were also good, albeit inconsistent. Besides the beast titan fight, episode 14 was pretty good too, and episode 15 was really good. Episode 16 also had the 2d Eren, and it was better than what WIT's 2d Eren was, granted, standing still.
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Rhaegar0 said:
racers551 said:


They do have to do with the broadcasting, which will influence the quality. Weekly series has the ability to make last minute corrections.

When MAPPA, which had 8 months to make 16 episodes for AOT, and was on one of the worst schedules for a mainstream anime,as well as one of the highest expectations for an anime, manages to deliver more sakuga and more consistency over David productions, which, we don't know what the schedule was, then that's a problem.


Dude, you said part 5 was badly directed, when in reality it was a sakugafest. Also, can you tell me which scenes in last season of attack on titan had amazing animation? I stopped watching at 8th episode, cuz titans looked awful and overall quality was a big stepdown.



Episode 8? There wasn't even that much titan fights.

There was just Reiner vs Eren, and it ended not too long after the episode began.
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racers551 said:
Rhaegar0 said:


Dude, you said part 5 was badly directed, when in reality it was a sakugafest. Also, can you tell me which scenes in last season of attack on titan had amazing animation? I stopped watching at 8th episode, cuz titans looked awful and overall quality was a big stepdown.


I said part 6. Not part 5. Part 5 was amazing. But part 6 suffered, and sources confirmed that's what happened behind the scenes.

Also, I can name so many scenes from aot that stand out from part 1. Episode 1, Reiner defeating all the guys on the walls, spinning around in circles. Episode 2, the rotoscoping for dialogue, and the consistency of characters, was unmatched even by WIT. Episode 3 and 4, really good quality, with 4 being good thanks to being outsourced to Cygames. Episode 5 and 6, also pretty good, with the heaviest amount of 2d animation, also with Armin transforming. 8, also had Vercreek make a cut, with all the scouts running away with the blimp, and the artwork was better than even WIT at times. 9, 12, and 13 were also good, albeit inconsistent. Besides the beast titan fight, episode 14 was pretty good too, and episode 15 was really good. Episode 16 also had the 2d Eren, and it was better than what WIT's 2d Eren was, granted, standing still.


Yeah, I've read on Twitter that some director from JoJo couldn't animate any of his storyboards because of the schedule. It still looked much better than your average anime but its a shame that we didnt get a higher quality product because of shitty management and higher ups.
I remember the rotoscoped dialogue scenes and they were beautiful, but I wonder if they could just animate still faces and focus on titans instead. The scene when the guy shouts "Eren Yeager!" was the culmination of hype for me, and I wish they gave it a better treatment.
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Rhaegar0 said:
racers551 said:


I said part 6. Not part 5. Part 5 was amazing. But part 6 suffered, and sources confirmed that's what happened behind the scenes.

Also, I can name so many scenes from aot that stand out from part 1. Episode 1, Reiner defeating all the guys on the walls, spinning around in circles. Episode 2, the rotoscoping for dialogue, and the consistency of characters, was unmatched even by WIT. Episode 3 and 4, really good quality, with 4 being good thanks to being outsourced to Cygames. Episode 5 and 6, also pretty good, with the heaviest amount of 2d animation, also with Armin transforming. 8, also had Vercreek make a cut, with all the scouts running away with the blimp, and the artwork was better than even WIT at times. 9, 12, and 13 were also good, albeit inconsistent. Besides the beast titan fight, episode 14 was pretty good too, and episode 15 was really good. Episode 16 also had the 2d Eren, and it was better than what WIT's 2d Eren was, granted, standing still.


Yeah, I've read on Twitter that some director from JoJo couldn't animate any of his storyboards because of the schedule. It still looked much better than your average anime but its a shame that we didnt get a higher quality product because of shitty management and higher ups.
I remember the rotoscoped dialogue scenes and they were beautiful, but I wonder if they could just animate still faces and focus on titans instead. The scene when the guy shouts "Eren Yeager!" was the culmination of hype for me, and I wish they gave it a better treatment.


The titans were literally better animated, with them following 2d guides for everything except faces. Otherwise, they mirror the movement seen if they were in 2d, with the added flexibility that the titans will never go off model, which WIT consistently struggled with.

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