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dkdumpling said: Literally just read some reviews of a clockwork orange and it doesn't seem like its a very good movie either.. Yeah that Stanley Kubrick guy was a hack...most of his movies were given horrible reveiws.... |
dkdumpling said: Literally just read some reviews of a clockwork orange and it doesn't seem like its a very good movie either. It basically just glorifies sexual violence and attempts to portray "a man's inescapable destiny of violence". Which btw just sounds dumb. Lol? Read that one negative review of a beloved movie and case closed? A Clockwork Orange's main point is how the criminal justice system sucks (still valid today btw). It doesn't glorify absolutely anything. And neither does Itaden. dkdumpling said: So the fact that this anime is just straight up making light of rape and putting classical music over it makes it seem like the director really doesn't understand the seriousness of the topic. You would think the director would learn why shit like SAO got so much criticism for the way it handled those sensitive topics and how you are supposed to handle that kind of topic if you absolutely must include it in your story. Again, it's a BLACK COMEDY. It's making fun of everything. Be it rape, child soldiers, child rapists as the chief clerks of childcare support and families brutally killed by the military of an imperialist nation. If the comedy doesn't work with you, totally fine. Nobody's forcing you to watch it. |
puruprendoJul 22, 2021 1:29 PM
dkdumpling said: I know that Stanley Kubrick is an exceptional film maker, it doesn't mean that all his movies are perfect. A clockwork orange is an example of that. Nothing is perfect. However, I think there is a difference between not liking something, and saying it isn't good. I don't like mobster movies or shows like Godfather, or Good Fellas, or Sopranos. But I understand that they are considered masterpieces. |
dkdumpling said: You must be fucked up in the head to think that child rapists and all of those other things are funny. For the love of christ get some mental help. It's not funny. I don't think you fully understand just how serious rape actually is. Anyway this is my last reply because you are delusional as fuck. Black comedy doesn't mean ridiculing the subject or the victims themselves, or even belittling their suffering. Festen is one of the most brutal and honest depictions of child abuse (ending in suicide) I've ever seen, but it's still funny as hell. |
| Pretty good first episode, I had a lot of fun. Liked the jokes, the VAs were great, the girls were hot, animation was good. I LOVED the OP visuals. I didn’t expect them to rape the nun at the end lmao, she was hot. |
z00nexJul 22, 2021 1:41 PM
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| I see now that people are very shocked at that ending. Idk if I should be surprised at myself for not being phased at all or if this reaches another Goblin Slayer hate lol. Anyways, to each their own. |
hmstr said: dkdumpling said: Damn bruh why isn't anybody talking about how bad that last scene is? Director decided to completely remove any kind of seriousness that scene should have had by adding classical music and basically making light of the entire situation. Fucked up. have you read any of my messages, what do you mean nobody is talking about it. It completely ruined the episode for me for sure It's the same 3/4 people who keep replying to this thread rehashing "How bad this scene was" etc. It's you @hmstr and @dkdumpling who keep preaching their opinion on others, littering the thread with pointless discussion and ridiculing anyone who disagree with you. Petty as fck. |
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dkdumpling said: I'm not a snowflake by any means but the people here seem to be misunderstanding what can be classified as humour and what is just actual sociopathic behaviour. There were people defending redo of healer and that anime (if you can even call it that) is just the protagonist raping an innocent woman. What the fuck has to be wrong with you mentally to defend that? “an innocent woman" bwahahaha ok that was funny |
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What do you mean by "lewds are cut"? I heard from manga readers that there's not that much service other than in action scenes |
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| I am digging this colorful art style and animation. MAPPA at it again with their god tier production value. It looks to be pretty goofy with some great comedy so far. Welp, about that comedy.... This shit went from goofy comedy to some serious dark shit at the end. My god, that was surprising. They violated that nun (to put it mildly) and danced on it with some classical music... If this is tone setter, then I don't know what else to expect from this show so far. I'll watch more though.. interesting premiere. |
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| After seeing that rape scene at the end I knew what I was going to see coming into this thread......and I was right. Anyway, pretty good first episode, everything seems interesting so far and I like the flashy colorful visual style. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol. |
| What a banging OP What a great first episode. |
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hmstr said: he needs to get himself checked because he found something that the creators made to make the audience laugh funny? lolpuruprendo said: Lol? Read that one negative review of a beloved movie and case closed? A Clockwork Orange's main point is how the criminal justice system sucks (still valid today btw). It doesn't glorify absolutely anything. And neither does Itaden. Again, it's a BLACK COMEDY. It's making fun of everything. Be it rape, child soldiers, child rapists as the chief clerks of childcare support and families brutally killed by the military of an empirialistic nation. If the comedy doesn't work with you, totally fine. Nobody's forcing you to watch it. get help. that isnt humour, if u find it funny, i recommend getting a check up at the doctors. |
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hmstr said: “not funny” to who? rape obviously isn’t right but that doesn’t really make it any less funny for the people who found it funny, including mez00nex said: he needs to get himself checked because he found something that the creators made to make the audience laugh funny? lol just so you know, the director isnt perfect, everyone knows that, so even if he made it for the purpose to be funny, at the end of the day, its just not funny. just because that was the purpose of the scene, doesnt mean its correct tho, right? |
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| It's really hard to state how weird the OP sequence is. It's like they took a classic Shaft opening, full of anatomical dummies and vivisections reimagining characters as random dummies combined with other objects, overlaid an LSD filter to it, and then cranked the drugs to 11. Also, they included the gratuitous rape scene, now set to opera with theatrical flailing instead of overt fetishizing and sexualization, so… not exactly the best way to end an episode! There's quite a bit of light censoring in general using the artistic style, which is weird because it also likes to stab people in the guts for comical effect and everybody coughs up a gallon of pudding every time they're hit. It is unfortunately, still quite "Jump". The artistic direction does an admiral job picking up the slack, but it's better in the interstitial bits, like the girl fairy-walking through an army undetected rather than the punchy bits. Not so much overreactions and yelling, thankfully. The protagonists especially are thankfully far more on the chill side. The antagonist, though… He needed to explain what a self-destruct was while also pressing a button marked "self-destruct." Yeah, I think we got it, guys. Still nowhere near as egregious as, say, Vanitas, but that character could have had literally zero lines the entire episode and it would have done nothing but improve every aspect of it. |
| I didn't realize it's going to be a dark anime. Like it was great until the ending. Which was very unexpected. Still a decent episode overall though. |
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| I honestly really loved this, went in expecting nothing, and got gold. The plot seems interesting, I like the characters we have so far, and I haven’t seen many people mention it but I personally got Kill la Kill vibes from the slight “over the top” nature this has, great stuff. And of course I can’t forget to mention the visuals, the colors are beautiful and the animation is great. As for the talk of the town, being the rape scene at the end, and the fact that it was even toned down, it did not hurt the show for me at all, sure it wasn’t pleasant, but not near enough to make me dislike this show. I’m 100% onboard with it. Forgot to mention both the OP and ED were instant bangers. |
| due to another thread I expected the rape scene to be something intense, legit just silhouettes with no audio for 95% of it; well guess everyone has different gauges for how much stuff they can handle in fiction |
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| This is exactly the kind of clusterfuck shit that I need in my life, I'm in. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| The show looks already fun with the straight battle to hyping up the whole situations. Shounen battle already, i like it. The oped also quite nice, typically sasuga mappa that's give an all out effort to create that things out greatly. The art style might be a little different than i thought before. However, its still nice considering the whole things kinda be fucked up more in the future. Even though i feel like this is too soon to judge the overarching story and others aspect about it. So this kind of style might be better to give such an artistic approaching matter. The end part quite feels wrong honestly, almost caught off my guard. But then again, the choice of the art style proved me that they might've think to compress the gory and dark aspect of the story to be more artistic than it should be. Idk the manga art, will be like this or different. But, as i care over any summer season show (minus some sequel that i didn't get a chance to watch because reason), this is truly intriguing me to watch until its finished. That's all and lets see the second one. |
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| Very good I liked the first chapter. It's interesting and the animation is great. And the opening and ending are very good. |
| The art style is unique and it's definitely a surprise for the season. Well done mappa That animation was super clean and visually pleasing to look at which is awesome. The last scene was a little weird but I thought the content before it was pretty good. My favorite part of the series would have be either the opening or animation though |
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puruprendo said: It's a black comedy. The rape scene is *supposed* to be stupid and hilarious. Whether you like or not this kind of comedy is your opinion, don't blame the creators. Everything is an opinion. Your whole message is one too. Ironic. |
kuwangpa said: Just skimmed over the rest of this discussion thread and didn't realize how controversial that rape scene was at the end. (It reminds me of the mass dropouts of Goblin Slayer after the first episode when the fighter girl gets "defeated" by the goblins.) Anyways, that scene to me was simply a scene. I don't think it was meant to be "funny" in a dark comedy way. (I agree with the other person who pointed out that the manga was more graphic in that depiction, but even then it's pretty tame when compared to the average hentai manga standards ...but I digress). The takeaway from that scene (for me at least) was to showcase the savage and brutal nature of those soldiers so the viewers (us) know that they're the enemy/antagonist of the story who will most likely get karmic justice in the end. (And of course, the shock value was higher because the victim was a devout nun of the church). The usage of a nun wasnt just for the shock value. To not spoil you the second episode, what you can tell from this episode is that even though that god exists and are capable of helping the humans, they don't help their worshippers. One could have expected throughout the start of the scene that some god would appear, and it plays with that expectation |
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