Attack on Titan
| Erwin should have gotten the Colossal Titan, he would have ended the Marleyans this season. |
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| Levi Fanboy, Fangirls incoming.... |
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| Also I never liked Levi and he just keeps pissing me off even more everytime I see him. Good thing |
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Fiveskies said: Tasel said: Erwin should have gotten the Colossal Titan, he would have ended the Marleyans this season. Erwin is sensible ,he would try to settle any dispute with Marleyans. Yep, you are correct, he would talk to them, get called a devil, then he would rise up and turn into the Colossal. |
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| Levi's response to Eren's actions is justified because Eren took himself hostage for this plan without anybody's agreement. What Levi sees is a man doing something reckless independently without consulting with anybody else and forcing Paradis soldiers to come pick him up or else their trump card gets overrun by Marley soldiers and they lose instantly, so it's really in no way comparable to the strategies Erwin would deploy. |
| Because the Survey Corps had other plans and Eren acted alone |
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| I'd say ... maybe. Erwin was indeed looking at the big picture and the safety of Paradis but it is currently not clear if Eren's move will be proven sensible or reckless (my guess is it will be the latter..). If it motivates the entire world to attack them and without that attack on Marley they would not have attacked them -or just a couple of third party countries would have attacked them- then Eren's move was reckless. Willy Tybur appeared to have sold successfully to the foreign delegates and press his propaganda, but it is unclear if they could have sold the same propaganda to their own governments and public. Remember that much of the entire world hates Marley as much they hate the Eldians, because Marley used Titans to attack them. Strategically it might have made more sense to leave Marley on its own to fight Paradis and thus have both parties weakened - and then attack the weakened winner. We -non manga readers- also do not yet know what has happened in these last 4 years in Paradis. Apparently they kept playing defence against Marley and this was the first time they attacked. But is it that simple? It was also said that Eren had tried this before; where and how, to a third party country? It is also unclear how Zeke plays into this. I am still confused to what extent Eren acted on his own, forcing the others to save him and how much of it was Zeke's plan, as was mentioned. The entire mission appears to have been a mix of planning and improvisation, but it's not yet clear how much was planning and how much was improvisation. |
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| Nothing wrong with Levi in my opinion. He was following Erwin because he was his superior, even when he didn't like the results or his plan he just said "you are full of shit" then carried out the order, since he was a soldier in the first place. The reason why Levi and the others lost trust in Eren, is because he deserted to Marley without permission (as the founder titan host, he is responsible not to fuck up or act on his whim), THEN attacked Marley (again without permission) on his own, AND he put the founder titan in very unfavourable situation, where he just expected his comrades to arrive without any clarification. Eren has falied as a soldier, as a titan host, and as a human being. He had no plan, he didn't know when his comrades would arrive IF they even come (letters he wrote aren't much of communication, he had no response...). Mikasa arriving and grabbing him away from the war hammer titan attack was pure luck. Levi saved him in the last second when the jaw titan almost bit him off... Eren was truly incredibly lucky and should be grateful to his comrades for doing such good job covering him. Even if for some reason, he would've managed to take out the four marleyan titans, then the marleyan army would've taken him out eventually. Eren is fucking stupid and I think both Levi and Hange went soft on him. ONe thing for sure, Levi had nothing to do with Eren's actions other than trying to compensate for the situation his dumb actions created. |
| Erwin was his superior, whom Levi respected. Eren isn't and I don't think Levi has the same level of respect for him either. It's not about whether his actions were right or wrong, it's about breaking a chain of command to act independently and recklessly without permission from his superiors. With Eren being an indispensable chess piece for Paradis, they were forced to do what they did in Liberio in order to rescue him, which then ultimately got Sasha killed. Hange lost trust in him because he's effectively gone rogue. I can see why Levi was pissed at him. Hopefully we'll get more of an explanation moving forward. Looking at the next episode, we may get a few flashbacks, which might explain what happened during the timeskip. |
Nik03178 said: Why should I need to justify that? Let's say I hate him for no reason, whats wrong with that? Anyway I don't like him cause he's annoying. Also I dislike him mainly for behaving bad with Eren.ZeroTwo__002 said: Also I never liked Levi and he just keeps pissing me off even more everytime I see him. Good thing Basically you have no valid explanation to dislike him. So dumb. What else can be expected from someone who is a fan of absolute garbage character zero two from an absolute trash anime. |
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ZeroTwo__002 said: Nik03178 said: Why should I need to justify that? Let's say I hate him for no reason, whats wrong with that? Anyway I don't like him cause he's annoying. Also I dislike him mainly for behaving bad with Eren.Basically you have no valid explanation to dislike him. So dumb. What else can be expected from someone who is a fan of absolute garbage character zero two from an absolute trash anime. How should he behave towards Eren? Well done, you deserted as a soldier, almost delivered the founder titan into Marley's hands, and attacked Marley alone by knowing we had no choice but to come, save your ass and pick you up... Levi is strict with everyone, even critizises his superiors. He treats Eren harsh when Eren act dumb and needs to learn. If you recap previous seasons, LEvi actually protected Eren all along, when all others wanted to kill him, he was there acting for Eren's sake, not to be killed or dissected. He kicked Eren teeth out at the jury so he would convince the army that he can manage him as a titan. Levi literally never ever was biased against Eren as a person. |
| So what's your point, OP? Why do you think that Levi might be called as a hypocrite? |
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| it's more so eren used them and didn't even tell the scouts abt his plan. He and zeke had his own plan. Btw Eren is my fav character and I don't rlly like Levi, but his anger is warranted. And stop, this is such a misconception that so many people have, Erwin would NOT agree with Eren to mass murder innocents and even less with the . The fact that Erwin in the end chooses humanity over his dream says enough. I could go into more detail on his mentality, guilt, and perspective on the cycle of hate but i give up. |
 โญโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโฎ "All problems come from the human mind. In the mind, one's consciousness is just the tip of the iceberg. What lies beneath the surface... the subconscious... is far more vast." - Shun Aonuma โฐโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโฏ |
Beeruz said: coolxal said: All of Erwin's plans have sacrificed countless soldiers. In the end only 9 of them survived the first 4 months. Regardless, Erwin got results and those results better the rest of Paradis. Erwin always SUSUME and Levi is like "I trust your judgement Erwin". But when Eren wants to move forward and help Paradis Levi "lost my trust in you". Erwin would be proud of Eren for charging forward. Well he’s the same as mikasa right? An ackerman No matter how absurd the person they want to protect is, they still support them with their heart. Mikasa still want to support eren even though he became much more twisted, and levi gonna support erwin no matter what, because the one levi choose to protect is erwin what does being an ackerman have anything to do with this situation? Ackerman bond doesn't make them blind, in fact it barely impacts them. Mikasa does not care for Eren because of the bond, and Levi does not respect Erwin because he's an ackerman. And idk how that even has to do with Levi being mad at Eren or not. |
โญโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโฎ "All problems come from the human mind. In the mind, one's consciousness is just the tip of the iceberg. What lies beneath the surface... the subconscious... is far more vast." - Shun Aonuma โฐโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโฏ |
| Nice spoilers about Ackermanns you are providing out there to anime-only viewers... Ehh. |
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