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Jun 4, 2020 12:50 AM

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im not big on loli hent@i or whatever but sometimes i might lookk at it and be like hey that's pretty good. (;

Jun 4, 2020 12:50 AM

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As long as its in movies, tv series, books, anime, manga and games. I am perfectly fine with it. I like controversial and taboo content. I think it adds layers to what otherwise would be generic and repetitive.

Enough philosophy, I don't approve of pedophilia or its cousin the Lolicon. But while I don't approve of it in real life. I do enjoy it and look forward to it, when portrayed in fiction.
Jun 4, 2020 1:10 AM

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ok, first of all, you cant compare loli/shota hentai with real child porn. I like loli hentai and shit but fuck real kids, dont wanna have sex with them.
Secondly, no I don't hate pedophiles it's kinda sad honestly. I only have a problem when a pedophile who can't take their hands of children
Jun 4, 2020 1:22 AM

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I am torn between "no, I'm not, I just don't want to waste energy antagonizing people all the time and rather choose to filter what I take from the medium myself" and "why are we answering to an obvious troll thread, have you seen OPs display of title and avatar?".
Jun 4, 2020 12:49 PM
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Why tf are people still posting on this year old thread, the answer is obvious
Jun 5, 2020 2:24 AM

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Apollo18 said:
Yes, the anime community accepts pedophiolia, the same way as the furry scene accepts beastiality, and the far right accepts white supremacists-

Of course, members of all those groups will deny those associations... but with very few exceptions, the members of those groups who aren't actively into pedophilia/beastility/white supremacy, will happily turn a blind eye to all their peers who openly ARE into those things.

Where else except the anime scene could people openly buy, sell, and have whole businesses based on porn artwork of children having sex? (You'd get curb-stomped in 5 minutes if you set up a business like that at a record-collectors fair or a football game, yet those stalls are the norm at every anime convention.) Or, what other scene makes cutesie euphemisms like "lolis" and "lolicon", to avoiding offending pedos with the wild assumption that people who fantasize about sex with children, are "pedos"?

On this very website, there are multiple shows, a whole genre, about adults having sex with children, where the shows description specifies that the kid is 8 or 9 or 10 years old... Of course, (because the anime scene instinctively, actively protects pedos...), people will inevitably say "but they're just fictional- No REAL child is harmed!!" But so what? In normal society, if someone admitted "I fantasize about fuucking imaginary 8yo's", they'd get their head caved in, regardless of whether a real child had been harmed, yet, or not. Every single anime fan knows why these people want to watch hentai of an adult fuucking a 6yo, yet ask them "should we do something about the pedo problem in the anime fandom?" and they'll say "No, why would do that? There's no problem! Everything's fine!!" (But then 5 minutes later, when someone asks "Why do you think the anime scene has a reputation for pedophilia?" they'll act like they have no idea...)

The anime scene is an absolute safe-haven for pedos. The fandom actively, passionately defends pedos; People will openly admit to being pedos here (including in this very thread), and no-one will say a word... But if you start to CRITICISE pedos in the fandom, you'll get swarmed by people absuing you, calling you names, and defending the pedophiles.


You mean the same people that overreacts about imaginary children and go "PEDOPHILE!!" But yet you say nothing when ppl play GTA. If lewding lolis aka imaginary little girls are pedos then those that play GTA are murderers. Right?

But whatever floats your boat I guess. I know this is a troll comment but I just want to take something off my chest after reading this comment.

Jun 5, 2020 2:37 AM
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nbyung09 said:
I'm okay with pedophilia as long as they don't break the law.
Loving 2D lolis is normal, they are cute and pure.


Nobody should be "okay" with it. Even if a pedophile hasn't commited a crime yet, what guarantees that he won't do it in the future?
Pedophiles Need serious Treatment on how to deal with their urges. Tolerating it won't help at all. Oc we shouldn't be too strict since if they had to life in secret, they wouldn't get help to and it would be even more dangerous.
Jun 5, 2020 2:59 AM

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FluentLove said:
"loli" comes from Lolita, a book literally about exploitive sex with a child.


Have you read lolita? Morality is never a theme of the book, and if anything she's the manipulative one. Besides, half a the story is a road trip and the other half he's not even with her, it's much more a love story than a sexual one. In fact, at the end they meet again many years later, with no hard feelings, and he still loves her despite her being an adult.

I dont really care about the debate but I felt it was a bit unfair to present a good book that way.
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How can we guarantee people wont go on shooting spree because they lose in video games. Like the Jacksonville shooter after losing in Madden NFL. Obviously American football makes people violent and need to be banned everywhere .Or some people with mental illness cant control themselves and will hurt others. Should all the rest of us who have never done anything wrong, be punished because of the few who have committed those horrible crimes against others?


I love lolis I have no problem admitting that .But imo anyone who hurt or abuse a real child are a scumbag and should be put down by a firing squad. I have zero sympathies or tolerances for people who abusive children






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Yuri-Crusader said:
KaiserWilhelm2 said:


Nobody should be "okay" with it. Even if a pedophile hasn't commited a crime yet, what guarantees that he won't do it in the future?
Pedophiles Need serious Treatment on how to deal with their urges. Tolerating it won't help at all. Oc we shouldn't be too strict since if they had to life in secret, they wouldn't get help to and it would be even more dangerous.


How can we guarantee people wont go on shooting spree because they lose in video games. Like the Jacksonville shooter after losing in Madden NFL. Obviously American football makes people violent and need to be banned everywhere .Or some people with mental illness cant control themselves and will hurt others. Should all the rest of us who have never done anything wrong, be punished because of the few who have committed those horrible crimes against other?






what? I've never implied that anime has something to do with pedophilia. You misunderstood my comment. Maybe I did too since I thought you were Talking About pedopilia in general, not loli stuff we see in anime. I'd actually agree with that. Sorry, seems to be my fault :D
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Hanamuke said:
FluentLove said:
"loli" comes from Lolita, a book literally about exploitive sex with a child.


Have you read lolita? Morality is never a theme of the book, and if anything she's the manipulative one. Besides, half a the story is a road trip and the other half he's not even with her, it's much more a love story than a sexual one. In fact, at the end they meet again many years later, with no hard feelings, and he still loves her despite her being an adult.

I dont really care about the debate but I felt it was a bit unfair to present a good book that way.

You are not calling a 12 year old child manipulative in a story where she is groomed and abused by the narrator. I am not seeing this. Oh my god.

Like, did you actually read the book? Because I did when I was 16. I still have it on my shelf. It is not a love story and Humbert is what people who read fiction like to call an unreliable narrator. It is about a man who marries a woman just to be close to her daughter, proceeds to consider her an object and doesn't even use her actual name when referencing her. If you call that a love story then I'm a little concerned on how you view romance.

I swear to god you guys need to take a lesson in critical reading.



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Jun 6, 2020 12:19 AM
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cageofroses said:
Hanamuke said:


Have you read lolita? Morality is never a theme of the book, and if anything she's the manipulative one. Besides, half a the story is a road trip and the other half he's not even with her, it's much more a love story than a sexual one. In fact, at the end they meet again many years later, with no hard feelings, and he still loves her despite her being an adult.

I dont really care about the debate but I felt it was a bit unfair to present a good book that way.

You are not calling a 12 year old child manipulative in a story where she is groomed and abused by the narrator. I am not seeing this. Oh my god.

Like, did you actually read the book? Because I did when I was 16. I still have it on my shelf. It is not a love story and Humbert is what people who read fiction like to call an unreliable narrator. It is about a man who marries a woman just to be close to her daughter, proceeds to consider her an object and doesn't even use her actual name when referencing her. If you call that a love story then I'm a little concerned on how you view romance.

I swear to god you guys need to take a lesson in critical reading.

I want to be appalled or just a bit amazed about that viewpoint, but I'm not. It's just another normal day on the internet and my hope and expectations for humanity is low to begin with.

Yuri-Crusader said:
I love lolis I have no problem admitting that .But imo anyone who hurt or abuse a real child are a scumbag and should be put down by a firing squad. I have zero sympathies or tolerances for people who abusive children.

At least there is one thing we could agree on.

And don't understand me wrong, I'm all in for giving people professional help, who haven't done anything yet and seek out for help, but if they act out on it... what a low existence.
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WTF....I really hope you are trolling here.....
You are in a thread where people are openly admitting to be pedos, and the majority response to those people is jokes and memes. And where 90% of posts are "as long as I don't know about a specific child being abused, people who jerk off to depictions of adults having sex with 8yos are A-OK, in my book"... but you think I'm "trolling"?

If you think the attitudes to pedos in this thread, line up with the attiutudes to pedos in general society, you are completely dellusional.

I gave several very specific examples which DEMONSTRATE how the anime fandom protects and embraces people who are sexually aroused by children, in ways that no other group does... If you choose to ignore that, you're just proving I was 100% right with that "will happily turn a blind eye" thing...

Most of the Anime community at the most part is in denial and wants to defend their Lolicon fetish to the death. These characters are literally designed to have the appearance and mannerisms of a young child. If you can jerk off to them let alone find them sexually attractive that's a HUGE red flag. "Oh well it's just porn, I'd never actually touch a young girl" is what most of them say but it's bullshit. If the idea of it turns you on it clearly means you'd be open to the idea if under the right circumstances.
Jun 6, 2020 12:36 AM

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Apollo18 said:
Chiibi said:


WTF....I really hope you are trolling here.....
You are in a thread where people are openly admitting to be pedos, and the majority response to those people is jokes and memes. And where 90% of posts are "as long as I don't know about a specific child being abused, people who jerk off to depictions of adults having sex with 8yos are A-OK, in my book"... but you think I'm "trolling"?

If you think the attitudes to pedos in this thread, line up with the attiutudes to pedos in general society, you are completely dellusional.

I gave several very specific examples which DEMONSTRATE how the anime fandom protects and embraces people who are sexually aroused by children, in ways that no other group does... If you choose to ignore that, you're just proving I was 100% right with that "will happily turn a blind eye" thing...

To be fair my biggest issue with your post is the false equivalence in your first phrase. Far right and white supremacy go hand in hand almost by definition, better mention conservatives in general. Only that way the comparisons may feel like they have a similar category.

That, and that by talking about "very few exceptions" you are just fearmongering. Many people do not even interact with these parts of the fandom, plenty denounce it and a lot just do not share any platform with them. Not to mention that for instance the furry community has stood clearly against bestiality a lot of times.
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