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Dec 12, 2019 1:02 PM
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I’ve noticed in the past few episodes that the animation just isn’t as good as it was in the previous seasons. I know there’s a new director, but I don’t think that a new director would drop the quality of the animation.
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Dec 12, 2019 1:08 PM
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literally I thought I was the only person who noticed this, its like the characters faces and bodies just look... off?
Dec 12, 2019 1:10 PM
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Yeah it definitely isn’t as good as the other seasons, but hopefully the fights make up for it. Red Riot Unbreakable looked sick af with how detailed it was, and I hope the next episode makes his next fight sick as well.
Dec 12, 2019 1:14 PM
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yep because the chief animation director or character designer is not this person anymore https://myanimelist.net/people/6458/Yoshihiko_Umakoshi

that guy is legendary animation director btw

animation directors are the reason for character drawing consistency they are not necessarily animating

and there is shortage of them now a days https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-01-29/berserk-2016-anime-director-says-industry-has-shortage-of-animation-directors/.142670
Dec 12, 2019 2:51 PM
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It looks no different from season 2.



Y’all want a movie budget?
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/106576
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Old_School_Akira said:
It looks no different from season 2.



Y’all want a movie budget?
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/106576

Yeah that cut with Nakamura was prob the only good cut of the season
Dec 12, 2019 3:32 PM
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Yeah that cut with Nakamura was prob the only good cut of the season

Nope. This https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/106575 looked good too and the recent episode with mimic in the hallway.

There is more but the season is not even done yet anyways.
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Dec 12, 2019 3:45 PM
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Old_School_Akira said:
colinmcguire001 said:

Yeah that cut with Nakamura was prob the only good cut of the season

Nope. This https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/106575 looked good too and the recent episode with mimic in the hallway.

There is more but the season is not even done yet anyways.
shit I keep forgetting about red riot unbreakable thats was really good too
Dec 12, 2019 3:53 PM
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colinmcguire001 said:
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Nope. This https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/106575 looked good too and the recent episode with mimic in the hallway.

There is more but the season is not even done yet anyways.
shit I keep forgetting about red riot unbreakable thats was really good too


Yes you forget the good animation this season

and the average animation the previous seasons.
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Old_School_Akira said:
colinmcguire001 said:
shit I keep forgetting about red riot unbreakable thats was really good too


Yes you forget the good animation this season

and the average animation the previous seasons.


I love to see that gif of Bakugou getting beaten up by All Might xD
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Dec 13, 2019 6:27 AM

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animation quality dropped since season 2. season 4 looks like jc staff one punch man season 2.


S4 definitely doesn't look as good as previous seasons (at the moment at least). But I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to say it's as bad of a downgrade as OPM S2 was.

Dec 14, 2019 1:28 AM
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It's absolutely retarded they're doing another movie while working on season 4. Season 4 should've taken precedence straight-up, not another movie that adds nothing that no one actually wanted, my god if they fuck up some of the next fights as a result of this I'm dropping the anime.
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It's absolutely retarded they're doing another movie while working on season 4. Season 4 should've taken precedence straight-up, not another movie that adds nothing that no one actually wanted, my god if they fuck up some of the next fights as a result of this I'm dropping the anime.


But they didn’t do a movie when season 1 aired and people said it looked bad too. The movie has the same animation quality as the show too. 🤔


The 1st movie didn’t look much different from the TV series. Not a movie budget.
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Aside from a few dips, it's been pretty excellent I reckon.

Season 3 probably had the best and most consistent animation quality so far followed by Season 2 and then this but there's not like a significant difference really between S3 and S4 overall.

We're not even halfway done though and I'm guessing most of the team that worked on the movie will now rejoin this group so there's a possibility that we'll be getting better animation from second half. Dr. Stone's animation seemed to improve by the episode and I feel like the same is happening with this season.
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Old_School_Akira said:
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It's absolutely retarded they're doing another movie while working on season 4. Season 4 should've taken precedence straight-up, not another movie that adds nothing that no one actually wanted, my god if they fuck up some of the next fights as a result of this I'm dropping the anime.


But they didn’t do a movie when season 1 aired and people said it looked bad too. The movie has the same animation quality as the show too. 🤔


The 1st movie didn’t look much different from the TV series. Not a movie budget.

I wonder why this kid can't be bothered to behave like a normal human being for once. For crying out loud, he's not a berserker servant from the fate series.
Dec 14, 2019 5:46 AM
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Well, i hope the animation quality isn't that bad compared to the previous seasons.
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I wonder why this kid can't be bothered to behave like a normal human being for once. For crying out loud, he's not a berserker servant from the fate series.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1205812175526408192 the season will be a flop, but the movie is looking. 👌


Movie trailers can be miss leading, they only show the good shots in trailers. And the show is not a flop it’s very successful in Japan. It’s even trending on japan Twitter
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There was a drop in the quality of the animation, so far there was something that really bothered me, but there are some parts ahead that have to have good quality, if not lose the impact it should have
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Old_School_Akira said:
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It's absolutely retarded they're doing another movie while working on season 4. Season 4 should've taken precedence straight-up, not another movie that adds nothing that no one actually wanted, my god if they fuck up some of the next fights as a result of this I'm dropping the anime.


But they didn’t do a movie when season 1 aired and people said it looked bad too. The movie has the same animation quality as the show too. 🤔


The 1st movie didn’t look much different from the TV series. Not a movie budget.


The best animations are mostly in fights. Your example is unfair. Movie has good animations.
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/70751
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Is that really a problem. We all know bones does fight scenes really well and that's their speciality. Everything else has always been not that good.
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Dec 14, 2019 11:31 AM
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Well, maybe they shouldn't divide their staffs and focus on one thing at a time. btw I learned that they are currently working this movie from other comments.

I guess they care more about the movie since it's a bigger project than the anime tv :/

But personally, I think it's not the quality but the level of directing and execution of the episode unless around this part is this where the manga fail. This would explain why the chara are regressing to having long monologue and multiple flashbacks

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It looks no different from season 2.



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JustOppais said:
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Movie trailers can be miss leading, they only show the good shots in trailers. And the show is not a flop it’s very successful in Japan. It’s even trending on japan Twitter
i know it's trending in Japan since ep 8 i think? but it's going to be a flop going to be a flop season over here. Movie trailers can be miss leading. yea but, i'm pretty sure that's where most of the team put the effort in so i'm sure it's going to look great.


Anime is made from Japan. If it’s not flopping in Japan it’s not a flop.
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JustOppais said:
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Anime is made from Japan. If it’s not flopping in Japan it’s not a flop.
guess you didn't know japan as different tasted in anime then us. Anime is made from Japan. < this is dumb dude, who wouldn't know this lol.


Yes Japan and here has different tastes. So what? 🙄
Love live flops here yet it continues to get seasons because Japan’s taste matters the most.
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I don't think that there have been a drop in animation, i just think that because of all the amazing animation that shounens and other shows had in 2019 (demon slayer, mob psycho, fire force and more) it doesn't look as good as it did when you compare it to them but it's still feel the same as it did in the 3rd season of MHA.
Dec 14, 2019 4:24 PM

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No, stop making shit up. The animation is good on average, and great on action scenes, just like every other BNH season.
Dec 14, 2019 9:35 PM
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The only thing that dropped is your eyesight.
What's the big deal with the animation?
It's good as ever or even better.
The action is absolutly amazing and the soundtracks are on point.
You really need to rewatch the first, second and third Season, come here again and day the same thing again.
The only thing that felt a bit of were the character designs in the first 2 episodes but that can be fixed with the blue-ray release.
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JustOppais said:
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Yes Japan and here has different tastes. So what? 🙄
Love live flops here yet it continues to get seasons because Japan’s taste matters the most.
because Japan’s taste matters the most. again i know, but i'm still right, it's going to flop Here''. i'm not saying the won't make a season 5 or 6 lol.


Who cares if it flops here.
What happens if it flops here? Nothing 😝
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Who cares if it flops here.
What happens if it flops here? Nothing 😝
did i say anything would have happen? lol. if you want to talk about the manga is dropping of the top 10, so even in japan it's doing somewhat' bad.


Maybe the readers found something else to read.
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JustOppais said:
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Who cares if it flops here.
What happens if it flops here? Nothing 😝
did i say anything would have happen? lol. if you want to talk about the manga is dropping of the top 10, so even in japan it's doing somewhat' bad.



Can you give a credible source that shows that? I want to know if this is true, BNHA was top 6 in selling mangas of this year last time i checked.
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Dec 17, 2019 5:08 AM
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Of course it's going to have a drop in quality it happens all the time
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Would I dislike this season if I disliked all seasons? especially season 3
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Can you give a credible source that shows that? I want to know if this is true, BNHA was top 6 in selling mangas of this year last time i checked.
it went from 2 to 6. after the pro hero arc it went down hill, next year it'll probably drop again from 6 to 9 or in the top 20.



We don't know the future, maybe this season 4 increase manga sales like it happened to KnY, we should not forget that BNHA is one of the most popular anime actually, and this season is getting better every episode!
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But they didn’t do a movie when season 1 aired and people said it looked bad too. The movie has the same animation quality as the show too. 🤔


The 1st movie didn’t look much different from the TV series. Not a movie budget.

I wonder why this kid can't be bothered to behave like a normal human being for once. For crying out loud, he's not a berserker servant from the fate series.


That's just how he is. blame his mother.
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It isn't a drop,it is a a new design,since the last guy who use to do the characters went out of the anime
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There is a massive drop in quality, to the point that its reasonable to assume they're struggle to keep up with prosecution. The corner cutting is everywhere and your eyes have to literally not work like this guy to somehow not notice.
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The only thing that dropped is your eyesight.
What's the big deal with the animation?
It's good as ever or even better.
The action is absolutly amazing and the soundtracks are on point.
You really need to rewatch the first, second and third Season, come here again and day the same thing again.
The only thing that felt a bit of were the character designs in the first 2 episodes but that can be fixed with the blue-ray release.
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Its' hardly better produced than one punch man S2. Probably worst looking thing bones has animated in a very long time.
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It's not even only the animation. I could live with the downgrade, but everything is worse. Direction, pacing and Background art is all terrible compared to past seasons. They spent most of last episodes running down a hall that looks like shit with terrible back grounds in every episode.

It's honestly near same quality as One Punch Man S2. I can't believe studio bones is barley putting out a series better directed or animated than JC Staff One Punch Man S2.
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Yeah it’s noticeable but still not bad i mean keep in mind that they were the producing the movie along with this season which is a two cour too and while the schedule is good it’s hard to focus on two things at the same time so blame toho on that
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It's not even only the animation. I could live with the downgrade, but everything is worse. Direction, pacing and Background art is all terrible compared to past seasons. They spent most of last episodes running down a hall that looks like shit with terrible back grounds in every episode.

It's honestly near same quality as One Punch Man S2. I can't believe studio bones is barley putting out a series better directed or animated than JC Staff One Punch Man S2.


I would say OPM2 is way better. Despite its weak moments, JC Staff animators did their best for the key moments and it doesn't look as bad as people used to say. The 2 latest episodes right now, so Lemillion vs Overhaul and Deku vs Overhaul are very static. Knowing they are the main characters of this arc, it is not acceptable. It looks like they drew the manga and made some traveling and FX. The climax is coming saturday but they already thrown away this arc in term of animation. Well, the rythm is not so good as well. The story of Red Riot is too long and repetitive, which is also a rare well animated scene, like they bet the season on him.

I'm very disappointed of the finale for now. I don't think they'll make me change my mind on Saturday.
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Notice how the people saying the animation is bad don't quote examples or sound u educated when conveying their point across as if they're talking out their ass.
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Man they didnt even put any effort on the fight scenes... at least opm2 had some good fight animation, deku and lemilion vs chisaki was wayyy to lame
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Notice how the people saying the animation is bad don't quote examples or sound u educated when conveying their point across as if they're talking out their ass.


Yeah I’m am the only one who posted examples here. There were a lot of fights in previous seasons that didn’t have about average animation that didn’t involve deku or that weren’t the climax of a arc.


You guys need to go rewatch the seasons before this one.
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Notice how the people saying the animation is bad don't quote examples or sound u educated when conveying their point across as if they're talking out their ass.


Yeah I’m am the only one who posted examples here. There were a lot of fights in previous seasons that didn’t have about average animation that didn’t involve deku or that weren’t the climax of a arc.


You guys need to go rewatch the seasons before this one.

Then trying to say stupid shit like how opms2 had better animation, a show where it's drop in quality was so apparent it took the attention of animators on Twitter, whereas the people complaining about the "drop in quality" in this bhad unrealistic expectations or only remember the good cuts from the 2nd and 3rd seasons while ignoring the bad. This season is literally no different from the previous seasons animation wise people are just bored with the series now and are looking for something to complain about as evident when you see that some of this users will give high marks to shows like Dr. Stone which has next to know animation throughout but complain for weeks about a still montage in MHA that wasn't even in the manga.
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Old_School_Akira said:
Devil_Food said:
Notice how the people saying the animation is bad don't quote examples or sound u educated when conveying their point across as if they're talking out their ass.


Yeah I’m am the only one who posted examples here. There were a lot of fights in previous seasons that didn’t have about average animation that didn’t involve deku or that weren’t the climax of a arc.


You guys need to go rewatch the seasons before this one.

https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32527
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32870
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32871
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32875
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32882
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32888
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32890
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32891
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/33727
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/34336

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SenorPink said:
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Yeah I’m am the only one who posted examples here. There were a lot of fights in previous seasons that didn’t have about average animation that didn’t involve deku or that weren’t the climax of a arc.


You guys need to go rewatch the seasons before this one.

https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32527
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32870
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32871
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32875
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32882
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32888
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32890
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32891
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/33727
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/34336

?????


Good job cherrypicking like a dumbass.
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Old_School_Akira said:
Devil_Food said:
Notice how the people saying the animation is bad don't quote examples or sound u educated when conveying their point across as if they're talking out their ass.


Yeah I’m am the only one who posted examples here. There were a lot of fights in previous seasons that didn’t have about average animation that didn’t involve deku or that weren’t the climax of a arc.


You guys need to go rewatch the seasons before this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKFAEc9zOLM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEoDK_LqueY
There's far less frames inbetween for Mirio vs Overhaul fight which is supposed to be one of the sub main fights. Some of the key sakuga can range from ok, but the direction is terrible because there is no animation after and even before the impact. You don't see any build up for the sakuga so it feels significantly out of place.

The best example is when Mirio does a lariat attack and the animation beforehand looks well, but there's no animation to actually show the random villain getting knocked back but a stand still image.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z21P3HZgkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TjHg9NxBEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N91vhro1LJY

Biggest issues are the goddamn flashbacks wasting too much time in between so any good sakuga is barely noticeable for most people. Most of the issues come from bad directing or maybe just the writing of this arc more so than the actual animation.

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Devil_Food said:
SenorPink said:

https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32527
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32870
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32871
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32875
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32882
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32888
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32890
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/32891
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/33727
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/34336

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Good job cherrypicking like a dumbass.
I just searched the website from season 2 and picked almost all the ones I could find? Besides, I refuted his comment. There is note worthy animation not only involving the Deku that occur more consistently.
Heck, he nitpicks when even small unimportant moments like ones I've mentioned in that website have interesting uses of animation to it compared to this season.

Heck, barely any of the other fights in UA Sports Festival even matter and last a few minutes, but have decent animation dedicated to it. It's far more consistent for what we get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGeaBJ2n3tg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dzPFqPoXpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_BBBikzw80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiBn0gPeFTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73vb5RllGhc

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It's not even only the animation. I could live with the downgrade, but everything is worse. Direction, pacing and Background art is all terrible compared to past seasons. They spent most of last episodes running down a hall that looks like shit with terrible back grounds in every episode.

It's honestly near same quality as One Punch Man S2. I can't believe studio bones is barley putting out a series better directed or animated than JC Staff One Punch Man S2.


I would say OPM2 is way better. Despite its weak moments, JC Staff animators did their best for the key moments and it doesn't look as bad as people used to say. The 2 latest episodes right now, so Lemillion vs Overhaul and Deku vs Overhaul are very static. Knowing they are the main characters of this arc, it is not acceptable. It looks like they drew the manga and made some traveling and FX. The climax is coming saturday but they already thrown away this arc in term of animation. Well, the rythm is not so good as well. The story of Red Riot is too long and repetitive, which is also a rare well animated scene, like they bet the season on him.

I'm very disappointed of the finale for now. I don't think they'll make me change my mind on Saturday.


I know right? What the hell was that Lemillion fight scene? I really liked him as a character but they completely butchered the scene with a slideshow of images instead of showing the actual fight. Couldn't believe it at first but you're right, actually worse animation than OPM2.
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Biggest issues are the goddamn flashbacks wasting too much time in between so any good sakuga is barely noticeable for most people. Most of the issues come from bad directing or maybe just the writing of this arc more so than the actual animation.


Season 1 has less sakuga than this season so far. (Even with no movie being made at that time)

We get flashbacks every season. See no different from the previous seasons. (Except deku’s lack of screen time but blame the manga for that)
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Biggest issues are the goddamn flashbacks wasting too much time in between so any good sakuga is barely noticeable for most people. Most of the issues come from bad directing or maybe just the writing of this arc more so than the actual animation.


Season 1 has less sakuga than this season so far. (Even with no movie being made at that time)

We get flashbacks every season. See no different from the previous seasons. (Except deku’s lack of screen time but blame the manga for that)

Flashbacks occur in every season, but it doesn't interrupt the action bad enough to cause whiplash. Particularly, Suneater's flashback and monologues taking up most of the episode rather than the fight. Same with Kirishima, Toga/Twice's who barely even fought at all, and Nighteye's.
The use of flashbacks is definitely overused in this arc especially.

For Todoroki, we get glimpses in the span of multiple episodes of his backstory where they become relevant in the story or motivations. For Sun Eater, we get the same amount of flashbacks or even longer in the span of 1 episode where we barely even knew who he was or his specific motivation. It wasn't built up to the point where his admiration for Mirio was prevalent until the episode started.

Kirishima gets a decent amount of build up in terms of his powers, but not enough build up for the actual fight. The actual fight is short and uninteresting. A literal punch and block fest for choreography. Flashback takes up way too much of the fight and the fight ends nearly instantly afterward.

Mirio's fight was a terrible mess just straight up and Deku barely does anything beside a stomp and a downward kick.

All Might vs Nomu is a full on fight that felt like it lasted longer than a few seconds than any of the Sakuga we got this season. Maybe, the final fight despite its writing issues will have amazing Sakuga to make up for the lack luster fights we had this season, but I highly doubt that it will fix the pacing issues we had this season.

Again, the issue might have to be moreso the writing and direction for the arc than the actual animation.





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