| So, who's seen it? What did you think? I almost shat my pants at the final utterance of "I am... Iron Man"! The ending got me excited for a Guardians of the Galaxy movie for the first time; I can't wait to see Starlord compete with Thor by trying to do more exercise than him xD I'm definitely looking forward to seeing Professor Hulk in future movies, as well Pepper or whoever takes over as Iron Man! Did you have any problems with the time travel logic? It didn't even hit me for a while that their biggest causality violation was killing the past Thanos who could then never go on to make the Infinity War happen, so at this point I've given up hope trying to make logical sense of their rules. And did anyone else think Hawkeye's Japanese sounded weak? xD |
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| "Avengers Assemble". That line just make orgasm that I dry my balls. For me, this is the end of Avengers franchise. It just not the same without Captain America and Iron Man. |
| It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person. |
| Disappointing movie and not that great. This movie is filled with plot holes and convoluted nonsense. |
| Drunk Thor was the funniest thing I'd seen in ages jgkasdjgkadal And when Captain America said "Avengers......assemble", that shit gave me chillllls |
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| Cap is worthy. But no that had to be one of my favorite parts. Cap finally wielding the Hammer in combination with the shield and Thor rejoicing "I knew it!" It's amazing to see something set up back in age of Ultron pay off among many other thing. Imagine "Return of the King" with superheroes. |
| Piece of shit movie, me and my family both agree it's the worst thing that came out since marvel started. Garbage all the way trash ending. |
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Akhdas said: Piece of shit movie, me and my family both agree it's the worst thing that came out since marvel started. Garbage all the way trash ending. Even if you think its a bad movie, do you really think its worse than Thor: The Dark World or Iron Man 2? Cause both of those movies are dog shit and easily worse than Endgame. |
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HungryForQuality said: cap thought it was loki, he even said so. so yer not supposed to meet your past self, but if you do and he thinks you are a shapeshifting norse god, the temporal wall doesnt collapse, bcz he never realised wht happened.It was good even though a lot of it didn't make sense. Why wasn't there a paradox or something when present Cap fought past Cap? How the hell does that even work without messing things? Why couldn't they revive Iron Man with the stones? Why wasn't Nebula erased from existence when she killed her past self? How come Loki escaping by using the Tesseract in the past didn't mess up the timelines? Speaking of which, where was he when Hulk revived everyone with the stones? Why did Peggy Carter look exactly the same age in 1970 than she did in the early 40s? Cap would be in his mid 90s at least so why does he look like he's in his 70s? Anti aging technology? I get it's not supposed to make a whole lot of sense and you're just supposed to sit back and have fun with the action. And it was funny surprisingly. well, its too meta, but it would render the mcu meaningless, its the only frnachise where death and loss matter, unlike most anime. in universe? no reason the timeline shifted, the hulk says as much. past nebula left her actual time and traveled to the future which she did not do in the earlier timeline and so her death didnt matter and thats why current nebula killed her old self in the future. same reason as above. he exists in another timeline where event after the 1st avengers movie happen very differently NO, she definitely looked older. he has the superserum, it obs slows aging. even if he wasnt stuck in ice, he would age slower than normies. was that even a question you had to ask? Speaking of CAP, he actually stayed in the past, which would be fine as cap would have disappeared from the current timeline, but the only plothole was how was he in that timeline as a old guy, handing the shield to falcon; when he should have disappeared just like loki did. they probably wanna make capn muuurica 4 with the black guy instead. |
| The sense of Finality actually comes when you sit thru the entire fuckin end credits and fuck! nothing, the franchise known for having multiple mid end post credit scenes, ends endgame with even a single one! |
lekuchi said: Akhdas said: Piece of shit movie, me and my family both agree it's the worst thing that came out since marvel started. Garbage all the way trash ending. Even if you think its a bad movie, do you really think its worse than Thor: The Dark World or Iron Man 2? Cause both of those movies are dog shit and easily worse than Endgame. Yes because, spoiler alert, it doesn't have |
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HungryForQuality said: I wish that was clear. I don't know much about Quantum Physics. They were saying something about Deutsch Proposition? The hell is that? Most of the scientific talk flew over my head. It'd be great if someone well versed in that field could tell me if it's all psuedoscience or if there's a kernel of truth to any of it. Too much work to do that for the movie though. From what I can extrapolate from all of the clickbaity articles about "scientists solving grandfather paradox with closed timelike curves" that come up from a search of "david deutsch grandfather paradox," it seems this Deutsch fellow suggested that if you go back in time to change something, you don't actually end up in the past that you lived through. It would be a separate timeline, universe, whatever you want to call it, that's identical to the one you experienced. So in light of that, it seems they're working under the idea that when all of them put on their quantum suits and went back in time, they were in different timelines identical to the ones they lived through, so anything they change doesn't affect their own timeline. I guess that does kinda fix the fact that they killed past Thanos, because it was not the same Thanos that started the Infinity War. It was a Thanos from a different timeline who may have gone on to start the war, but because he learned about this future he took a different course of action, and now the timeline which that Thanos came from is safe from him slaughtering populations. Jeez Louise. The one bit of jargon I actually knew was BS right away is when Tony is at his holo-desk and asks for the eigenvalue of a transformation. Long story short, an eigenvalue is just a number (like 5, 83, or 10,000). So what does the computer show him? Not a number, just more of his weird Mobius strip display xD Also, from watching the Ant Man movies I learned to just ignore anything that they slap "quantum" in front of, because it's 100% bullshit every time. So as far as I know there is no factual basis in quantum mechanics for them exploiting it to time travel, it's just another in a long line of hacks they can pull because Hank Pym. |
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deg said: Like I said, thats the only glaring continuity error, he removed himself from the current mcu timeline and shouldnt exist in it anymore.KeylonLongfist said: Thinking about time travel and applying cause-effect logic to it can really mess up the enjoyment of any story that involves that mechanic. that reminds me Hulk says you cannot change the present by changing the past (when they are arguing about killing baby Thanos) but Captain America did go back in time to change the past by him marrying the love of his life and growing as an old man until the present day, damn that is some contradiction on their time travel quantum physics stuff there its contrived and him handing falcon his shield seems to be the reason for it. capn america 4, with falcon as capn america instead. for all their bullshit talk abt not messing up timelines and fixing shit, and the anciant one handing her time stone after actually explaining to banner how it works bcz strange willingly handed it over to thanos as well, steve rogers literally goes back in times to make sure the extracted stones are returned. they couldnt have just forgotten all that, they fucked it up on purpose, some handwaveing bullshit in some interview in the next month, I'm tellin you, capn mercia FOUR [or whatever they call it] with falcon is coming. |
deg said: after reading the explanations on the time travel stuff this becomes one of my favorite movie of all time, damn its freaking awesome the character development of Captain America and Iron-man developed to opposite extremes too Captain America went with being selfless to being somewhat selfish in the end Iron-man went with being selfish to being selfless in the end I thought those developments were great! Although, I wouldn't say Captain America became selfish, more like he learned to live for himself rather than only helping others. He only went off into his own timeline after he did his job of returning the stones. |
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deg said: Ponds667 said: I thought those developments were great! Although, I wouldn't say Captain America became selfish, more like he learned to live for himself rather than only helping others. He only went off into his own timeline after he did his job of returning the stones. ye maybe selfish is a strong word there but i just like to emphasize on how the character development of those 2 went the opposite direction yeah totally agree. I think it was a nice contrast to see how those two flipped to seeing each other's perspectives in the end. Especially when they've both been at odds since they met. Really felt like a good conclusion to their arc together. |
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| @deg Ponds667 said: maybe true, but tony outright sacrificed himself with that snap, steve didnt actually know he wouldnt break the universe by staying back. also all that hilarious capn america expletives...... he went full ret- self ish here.....deg said: ye maybe selfish is a strong word there but i just like to emphasize on how the character development of those 2 went the opposite direction yeah totally agree. I think it was a nice contrast to see how those two flipped to seeing each other's perspectives in the end. Especially when they've both been at odds since they met. Really felt like a good conclusion to their arc together. of course, even I came up with it, but theres another theory. He did create a new timeline. so 3 separate timelines came into existence due the the avengers actions. and he knew about the prime time line as he was from there, so he just came to visit "US" at the end and gave sam his own shield. Who knows wht life he lived there? he could have gone at any point and maybe the real steve rogers in that universe stayed in the ice 4eva!!! and he went on to be capn america throughout WW2 and cold war and he AND piggy and howard stark and hank pym are the shield founders, hell he even knows whos hydra, so he maybe becomes the director of shield, coerces howard and hank to be friends, and just came to visit us at the end of the game./ SEEWHAT I DID THERE!! much better than him just living an ordinary useless life underground, hiding, running from the law or just being off the grid. and those two other lines, one where nebula got quantum entangled with herself and that Thanos bought his aramada and got rekt, so a verse where infinity war never happens, and that one where tony fucked up BIG time and Loki escaped. |
| -append- What IF?!? the cap even kept Mjolnir for himself in that timeline whre he went back and married peggy? some whre sometime, thor got fucked over. and His mom knows why! but shes dead so she cant tell him. and cap cant even return it back, cuz now he cant lift it anymore. |
| I personally loved it. Having watched them all growing up and having it all feel like it was tied together in that movie (having the time travel back to avengers, Thor:tdw and GotG) was cool. Any kind of time travel plot hole doesn't bother me and why should it? No one complains about a chick flying in space and breathing, a talking walking tree etc. So I think it's just lame nitpicking. |
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KuroudoAkabane said: -append- What IF?!? the cap even kept Mjolnir for himself in that timeline whre he went back and married peggy? some whre sometime, thor got fucked over. and His mom knows why! but shes dead so she cant tell him. and cap cant even return it back, cuz now he cant lift it anymore. Cap went back to return the stones. Thor borrowed mjolnir when him and rocket went back to take the ether. So cap would of returned the hammer when he returned the stone. |
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| To be honest, i thought the movie was pretty boring. And some of the lines just were cringey. |
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| so starting off...There were definitely a few plot holes but a film this Epic is bound to have them. With that being said...The movie was incredible! Wrapped up Phase Three perfectly and had a perfect balance of comedy and action. I also appreciate all of the callbacks from past movies. I went in with sky high expectations and left the theater feeling fulfilled. |
| There were some plot holes tbh but in the end it was a perfect conclusion to this arc. My favorite moment was when Cap lifted Thor's hammer O_o Time travel stuff is always confusing and leave a lot of questions when u dont explain them clearly. But i heard that Marvel uses parallel world theory for time travel in comic books. And since i've watched Steins Gate, i kinda understand 90% of the time travel stuff happened in the Endgame. But they do need to explain it in the future movies. One other thing that is still bugging me is the 'worthiness' to lift the hammer. Some are arguing that since Captain was able to get rid of the guilt of hiding the secret of death of Stark's parents, he was finally able to wield it. But in comic books, Magneto and Loki are also able to lift it. So being a good guy and guilt-free is not the exact criteria. Its more complicated imo, but they never explained this in comic books too. So i think it will always remain a mystery ๐ค |
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Schmand said: After watching infinity war, this was the first thing that came to my mind LOL. And then this was the solution i came up with :-Ah yes, time travel, the laziest plot armor available. And thanos logic also had a completely major plothole: He destroyed the infinity stones with their own power so everything is finished once and for all, but in a couple thousand/million years the universe will start another cycle anyway, creating the same problem again- basically making his whole plan pointless. Schmand said: And now u have disproved the only reasonable solution with this lmao :-And the best part is, even if he kept the infinity stones and decided to be an omnipotent being that's watching over the universe Schmand said: someone like the avengers could just create a time machine and undo everything again. The fact is they dont explain such important things even in comic books. I think the main reasons behind this is 'Resurrection'. They keep killing the heroes and bringing them back again and again, and in the process, the plot developments used leave major plot holes. I'm definetly sure there will be Cameos of Iron Man and Captain America in the future movies since resurrecting a person in Marvel Universe is easy. deg said: Well, Russo Brothers said that they will return if MCU plans to do Secret Wars in the future. I think it will take another 10 years to make it happen and will be the next big thing after Endgame. Lets see with which version they would go with, 1985 or 2011. Former has a simple plot and the later is more complicated and dark. IMO, i think they would go with former one, knowing the history of MCU.KeylonLongfist said: I wonder if they'll build the next phase (or several phases) of movies around the line that the Ancient One mentioned: now that the prime timeline has no more stones to protect it, will Dormamu and other extra dimensional threats become the main big bads? sounds like you are talking about the Secret Wars that i heard about sometime Marvel Secret Wars said: The storyline involved the Marvel Universe combining with other alternate universes, including the Ultimate Universe, as well as the 2099 Universe, to form Battleworld, a world which exhibits aspects of the various universes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Wars thats totally possible EDIT: i mean by totally possible is your own thoughts there like Dormamu becoming the next big villain, my own thoughts got jumbled on what you have said that it hinted the Secret Wars scenario that i heard about |
silent_knight98May 5, 2019 4:55 AM
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deg said: I think its inevitable. Both X-Men and Fantastic Four play a major role in secret wars. And it will take time to develop these characters. Then there are sequels of Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Dr. Strange (i think all three of them will get a trilogy). So we can assume that MCU will take its sweet time.@silent_knight98 yep i saw that news about the Russo Brothers wanting to do Secret Wars when i googled about Secret Wars stuff regarding that quoted reply but damn 10 years of waiting again |
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Inverterz said: must be such a badass moment for you !Again Marvel just proves how terrible their movies are. DC is better in every way and that's a fact. here's internet 4 u. wash it down with some bleach. |
| Oh my gosh, Endgame is now my FAVORITE Marvel movie. I never cry watching movies, but I drowned my theatre multiple times this past weekend. So many parts were great, but I think my favorite scene was when Cap started crying when Dr. Strange & co. rallied behind him. Cap wielding Thor’s hammer made me happy cry all over the place. The time travel rules also made a lot of sense and it’s a pretty refreshing take. I guess it’s also an easy way to not have to retcon any events in the main timeline. I don’t know if Marvel can outdo itself in future phases. The whole Avengers arc is just too good to re-capture. |
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| There's no point losing sleep over time travel when it is part of a story, so I've learned to just accept it for what it is. That being said, it was a pretty satisfying conclusion to the MCU, bringing everyone together in the biggest way. As a comic book nerd, I am satisfied. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| Endgame didn't really blow my mind like I thought it would..... It was defo amazing, but all the hype and wait for the movie made me have immense expectations which weren't really catered to by the content. Well, it might also be because the theatre I went to had absolutely no hype and was dead-silent throughout, or I had a huge chunk spoiled through Social Media.... Eitherway, Bittersweet close to a legacy :) |
Inverterz said: I would say retarded DC fan but...... well..... KuroudoAkabane said: must be such a badass moment for you ! here's internet 4 u. wash it down with some bleach. typical marvel fan. DC is better than Marvel whether you like it or not. DC didn't need movies to become popular like Marvel. No one knew who marvel characters were before their movies. Marvel is a DC rip off. incase you missed, ya clearly missed the point, we're only talkin about the dcue and The MCU! not the comic properties or DC's excellent animations, just these shared cinematic universes can u objectively say that now |
| lol, I screamed with the audience in the theater when the thousand of avenger charge the Thanos' armies. it was crazy, fun and good experience too. |
| I personally really loved the movie. It was a very much well needed and emotional end to the MCU. For me the two strongest moments was when Doctor Strange pointed at Tony, showing him that there was only one future in which they won, the second one was the now iconic "I live you 3000" line signifying that all the marvel movies together added up to 3000 minutes. |
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