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Feb 26, 2019 5:34 AM

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Hunter_Garou said:
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It doesnt need to be accurate for you I just stated my reasons why its overrated. I am not wrong. We just have different perspectives.

If you can prove me wrong, then do it. Not just say I am wrong and stretch it out for 3 sentences to look intelligent.

Prove you wrong ? Okay !
1) The goal of the series has been Mob developing as a person. In season 2 during his dream fight with Mogami, he realizes how much his friends mean to him and he gets a development, before he only could his ESP when he was having a negative emotion pile up but now he get's 100% happiness proving he is learning to be more happy and appreciative about what those around him mean to him (Character Development/growth)
2) The storyline of this anime so far is having powers doesn't make you superior to others, that's literally the main theme of the story, Mob first learns that in his first meeting with Reigen and he never forgets that advice. So he strives forward to grow as he started off as an awkward kid with no friends and no stamina but he is constantly developing even through his battles. He learns how to live as a person without relying on powers which according to Reigen doesn't make them superior to others.(It has a storyline)
3) Uses a lot of cliches(Every form of entertainment has some form of cliche in it, it depends on execution, Mob Psycho 100 does it right, which is why it's such a great show)
4) I mean art is subjective, it's not the best art but it's not bad either because it's very smooth, it shows great visuals which are like eye candy, it's definitely a good art style.
5) Not boring, Very interesting and ONE's comedy style is just so hilarious. I love ONE's comedy both in OPM and MOB PSYCHO 100.
6) I mean the story is not garbage since it makes absolute sense and works very well so the action also works because of that.

"Yep it doesn't deserve 8.79 mean score"
You are right, it deserves an 8.90 or a 9.00. Mob Psycho is such a great series.


1.) You have a point but I think my standards for a character development might be too high (thx to Meruem from HxH, Tamura Reiko from Parasyte, and some characters from Gintama) that I refuse to acknowledge Mob's character development as great. It was average for me and not really impressive. Thus I might've refused to acknowledge it as an development. Mob is still bland for me though.

2.) That's not how I see Mob Psycho honestly. To me it was like A random villain appear-fight-struggle-win-annoying reigen scene-repeat. Call me blind or whatever you like. Mob Psycho's story is just never my cup of tea.

3.) It was executed in an average way for me again, not impressive.

4.) Art is subjective

5.) I was never a fan of ONE's humor (maybe Sorachi raised the bar too high again)

6.) Refer to No.2


I watched Mob Psycho late in my "anime time" and prior watching to Mob Psycho I have already touched a lot of masterpieces and it obviously cannot compare to those. Thus, I call it overrated. One example is Mob Psycho having higher ratings than Monster (an absolute gem in anime).
TruceeFeb 26, 2019 6:44 AM
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AniMEHLover said:
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Prove you wrong ? Okay !
1) The goal of the series has been Mob developing as a person. In season 2 during his dream fight with Mogami, he realizes how much his friends mean to him and he gets a development, before he only could his ESP when he was having a negative emotion pile up but now he get's 100% happiness proving he is learning to be more happy and appreciative about what those around him mean to him (Character Development/growth)
2) The storyline of this anime so far is having powers doesn't make you superior to others, that's literally the main theme of the story, Mob first learns that in his first meeting with Reigen and he never forgets that advice. So he strives forward to grow as he started off as an awkward kid with no friends and no stamina but he is constantly developing even through his battles. He learns how to live as a person without relying on powers which according to Reigen doesn't make them superior to others.(It has a storyline)
3) Uses a lot of cliches(Every form of entertainment has some form of cliche in it, it depends on execution, Mob Psycho 100 does it right, which is why it's such a great show)
4) I mean art is subjective, it's not the best art but it's not bad either because it's very smooth, it shows great visuals which are like eye candy, it's definitely a good art style.
5) Not boring, Very interesting and ONE's comedy style is just so hilarious. I love ONE's comedy both in OPM and MOB PSYCHO 100.
6) I mean the story is not garbage since it makes absolute sense and works very well so the action also works because of that.

"Yep it doesn't deserve 8.79 mean score"
You are right, it deserves an 8.90 or a 9.00. Mob Psycho is such a great series.



Thank you for that professional elaboration of your thoughts!!

1.) You have a point but I think my standards for a character development might be too high (thx to Meruem from HxH, Tamura Reiko from Parasyte, and some characters from Gintama) that I refuse to acknowledge Mob's character development as great. It was average for me and not really impressive. Thus I might've refused to acknowledge it as an development. Mob is still bland for me though.

2.) That's not how I see Mob Psycho honestly. To me it was like A random villain appear-fight-struggle-win-annoying reigen scene-repeat. Call me blind or whatever you like. Mob Psycho's story is just never my cup of tea.

3.) It was executed in an average way for me again, not impressive.

4.) Art is subjective

5.) I was never a fan of ONE's humor (maybe Sorachi raised the bar too high again)

6.) Refer to No.2


I watched Mob Psycho late in my "anime time" and prior watching to Mob Psycho I have already touched a lot of masterpieces and it obviously cannot compare to those. Thus, I call it overrated. One example is Mob Psycho having higher ratings than Monster (an absolute gem in anime).


1) Oh, I see, you are just stubborn so you don't want to recognize greatness even when it stares you in the face, that's quite the predicament you got there.

2) Refer to no. 1

3) FOR YOU, at least others appreciate great execution.

4) Same

5) This having a bar too high concept just seems like a very dumb/ridiculous concept that it restricts you from enjoying great series. It's quite sad to think about, I hope I never develop this illness that restricts me from enjoying good art and story.

You see in MAL, when it gets from 8.00 and up, something that's rated 8.5 can be worse that something that's rated 8.16. The 8 area is a very tricky area, because mostly everything in the 8 area are mostly good(finished stuff not ongoing stuff) so the scores can be anywhere.

6) Refer to No. 2.
Feb 26, 2019 6:31 AM

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Hunter_Garou said:
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1.) You have a point but I think my standards for a character development might be too high (thx to Meruem from HxH, Tamura Reiko from Parasyte, and some characters from Gintama) that I refuse to acknowledge Mob's character development as great. It was average for me and not really impressive. Thus I might've refused to acknowledge it as an development. Mob is still bland for me though.

2.) That's not how I see Mob Psycho honestly. To me it was like A random villain appear-fight-struggle-win-annoying reigen scene-repeat. Call me blind or whatever you like. Mob Psycho's story is just never my cup of tea.

3.) It was executed in an average way for me again, not impressive.

4.) Art is subjective

5.) I was never a fan of ONE's humor (maybe Sorachi raised the bar too high again)

6.) Refer to No.2


I watched Mob Psycho late in my "anime time" and prior watching to Mob Psycho I have already touched a lot of masterpieces and it obviously cannot compare to those. Thus, I call it overrated. One example is Mob Psycho having higher ratings than Monster (an absolute gem in anime).


1) Oh, I see, you are just stubborn so you don't want to recognize greatness even when it stares you in the face, that's quite the predicament you got there.

2) Refer to no. 1

3) FOR YOU, at least others appreciate great execution.

4) Same

5) This having a bar too high concept just seems like a very dumb/ridiculous concept that it restricts you from enjoying great series. It's quite sad to think about, I hope I never develop this illness that restricts me from enjoying good art and story.

You see in MAL, when it gets from 8.00 and up, something that's rated 8.5 can be worse that something that's rated 8.16. The 8 area is a very tricky area, because mostly everything in the 8 area are mostly good(finished stuff not ongoing stuff) so the scores can be anywhere.

6) Refer to No. 2.


Lets continue this privately since this is not a Mob Psycho thread
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Because the first arc is a total mindfu#$.
Feb 26, 2019 10:32 AM

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I think most people don't try to keep up with the pace of the show patiently. So they get confused. Hence the low popularity, and lower score than it deserves.
Btw I loved the old version of Boogiepop. Rewatching it from different angles and better animation makes me love this version too. (7.5-8)/10 show for me.
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AniMEHLover said:
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1) Oh, I see, you are just stubborn so you don't want to recognize greatness even when it stares you in the face, that's quite the predicament you got there.

2) Refer to no. 1

3) FOR YOU, at least others appreciate great execution.

4) Same

5) This having a bar too high concept just seems like a very dumb/ridiculous concept that it restricts you from enjoying great series. It's quite sad to think about, I hope I never develop this illness that restricts me from enjoying good art and story.

You see in MAL, when it gets from 8.00 and up, something that's rated 8.5 can be worse that something that's rated 8.16. The 8 area is a very tricky area, because mostly everything in the 8 area are mostly good(finished stuff not ongoing stuff) so the scores can be anywhere.

6) Refer to No. 2.


Lets continue this privately since this is not a Mob Psycho thread

But the problem is, It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Looking at the numbers it has sold, the ratings both here and in Japan, it was even able to get a Netflix series adaptation, as far as I can remember only big and great shows can afford to do that, e.g. Death Note, Jojo's bizarre adventure, Dragon Ball. That shows alone that many people love it meaning great show. It's not my opinion; it's a fact. Mob Psycho is a great show, saying it isn't is just not wanting to face reality after-all you have yet to mention objective things wrong with the show. All you have done is either blatantly say untrue things or make subjective claims, which are just easily dismissable. Shoving you facts is childishness, hilarious.
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Hunter_Garou said:
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Lets continue this privately since this is not a Mob Psycho thread

But the problem is, It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Looking at the numbers it has sold, the ratings both here and in Japan, it was even able to get a Netflix series adaptation, as far as I can remember only big and great shows can afford to do that, e.g. Death Note, Jojo's bizarre adventure, Dragon Ball. That shows alone that many people love it meaning great show. It's not my opinion; it's a fact. Mob Psycho is a great show, saying it isn't is just not wanting to face reality after-all you have yet to mention objective things wrong with the show. All you have done is either blatantly say untrue things or make subjective claims, which are just easily dismissable. Shoving you facts is childishness, hilarious.

Your reasoning for whether something is good or not is its popularity?
That's an uhm...interesting mindset
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JudoJD said:
Hunter_Garou said:

But the problem is, It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Looking at the numbers it has sold, the ratings both here and in Japan, it was even able to get a Netflix series adaptation, as far as I can remember only big and great shows can afford to do that, e.g. Death Note, Jojo's bizarre adventure, Dragon Ball. That shows alone that many people love it meaning great show. It's not my opinion; it's a fact. Mob Psycho is a great show, saying it isn't is just not wanting to face reality after-all you have yet to mention objective things wrong with the show. All you have done is either blatantly say untrue things or make subjective claims, which are just easily dismissable. Shoving you facts is childishness, hilarious.

Your reasoning for whether something is good or not is its popularity?
That's an uhm...interesting mindset
I was arguing withe the other guy, there is some context to it but not here.
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AniMEHLover said:
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Wow I just don't get how someone can be so wrong and be so bold about it. Nice try though but everything you said is wrong. I mean if you want to criticize Mob, please be accurate what you were writing doesn't describe Mob Psycho 100 at all.


It doesnt need to be accurate for you I just stated my reasons why its overrated. I am not wrong. We just have different perspectives.

If you can prove me wrong, then do it. Not just say I am wrong and stretch it out for 3 sentences to look intelligent.

You are wrong. Also, you need to prove your claims. I don't need to build a counter claim based on claim with zero substance. Elseif, I could simply just retort by listing the opposite of your reasoning. If you wish to say that mob psycho is bad or garbage or anything of the such, you need to explain why. And no, " No character development" or anything of the such is not an explanation enough. You need to tell us why you thought the character development, ugh, was lacking or non existent. You haven't. What you've done is made an arbitrary list to support your claim you can't justify.

Don't take this the wrong way but, It's clear that you don't have the faintest idea on what you're talking about.
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I'm not surprised by the score. I just started watching it and I absolutely loved the atmosphere of the first episode, but if there's one thing I hate are works that hide a simple story over a chaotic narrative, and...this is honestly sounding like it, considering the little I know about the series and the second episode. There's nothing complex about a story where one look at the bigger picture is enough to clarify the questions it raised, because it betrays the sense of confusion it imposed on us. I just hope this ain't it, because I'm really liking it.
Mar 26, 2019 4:47 PM

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I never get why people score a show that they drop. It's just dumb as hell. If you think it's shit, then watch it, and THEN score it shit.
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Initially I thought the same but after each new episode I really think this is understandable as the adaptation itself have been so poorly done and rushed even though I didn't read the novel but I can feel it. Also the character designs looks so dull and most of them are so badly drawn (esp the filler character on later arcs).. at this rate I really feel bad for the author :(

Overall, seems like this too suffer similar issue of the new Kino Tabi HD remake except this took me late to notice as I was distracted by those osts which is the only thing done properly and fits well with the theme of the show but overall adaptation should had been handled wayy different.
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I literally just caught up and this series doesn’t deserve to be this low. The first arc was confusing to keep track of, I had to look up some guides to help me understand all the time jumps. After the first arc I think it’s been great. Really interesting psychological mystery thriller. I’m really enjoying it now.

The show demands you to think and keep track of things which may be too much to ask of the average MAL user ;) But this show is like Monogatari where it’s best to binge arcs one at a time. I’m glad I jumped on board now because watching this week to week would be a pain.

I expect the score will increase once the show finishes and will probably continue to increase because a lot of people are waiting to binge it once it’s over.
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I'm enjoying it right now, quite a lot actually. But to be honest, i think its trying too hard. Its really not as "cOmPlEx and dEeP" as a few others are saying, but its kinda disappointing. I mean, it presents everything in a very complex way, and I thought that the conclusions to them would be very "CoMpLeX and dEeP" too, but instead I was like "Sooo...thats just it?" lol

Plus it gets pretty BS sometimes with aliens like that echos guy, synthetic humans and mad scientists(Towa organization) so yeah its pretty funny too.

I think the rating is a little bit lower, 7.4-7.6 would be better. Its definitely an above average, good anime.
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I'm not surprised by the score. I just started watching it and I absolutely loved the atmosphere of the first episode, but if there's one thing I hate are works that hide a simple story over a chaotic narrative, and...this is honestly sounding like it, considering the little I know about the series and the second episode. There's nothing complex about a story where one look at the bigger picture is enough to clarify the questions it raised, because it betrays the sense of confusion it imposed on us. I just hope this ain't it, because I'm really liking it.


Couldn't agree more
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I mean, it presents everything in a very complex way, and I thought that the conclusions to them would be very "CoMpLeX and dEeP" too, but instead I was like "Sooo...thats just it?" lol


Yeah, my thoughts exactly. The first episode was perfect, the OST is so dreamy and even if I didn't understand anything I was completely blown away by it, the entirety of it was just beautiful. And then the second episode came and...aliens and evil government organisations. Wait, that's it?
I fear the only thing that will grip me is the mood of the series, if that doesn't change. I dunno, I just feel I've seen this whole premise too many times already.
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See, I knew it. The rating jumped up today. It was 7.03 yesterday. Now, it's already 7.23.
That's because it's no longer "Currently Airing" and ratings from people who've seen less than 20% of it (4 eps) don't count towards the aggregate score. Happens with everything.
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Ahhh it's nice to see these elitist posts saying it's because other people are stupid or uncultured... I'm sure that's a great selling point if your an obnoxious cretin. Maybe some people don't like it or it's not for them. It really isn't the perfect anime by any stretch, feel the conclusions to the arcs are a little underwhelming, but I have enjoyed it overall and it has the best soundtrack of the season hands-down. The characters designs could have been better, it could be hard to tell some apart. Think you definitely need to binge the arcs as I watched it weekly and it doesn't seem the best way of tackling this series. 7/10 is exactly what i gave it. It's good, but not great.
And why are people bashing Mob? How does that make your argument better for this series? That's just sad. Totally different types of series for one! Boogiepop isn't a shonen so how can you compare.
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A serious question? A bit serious answer:
Because the average (generic, grey mass, typical, ordinary) viewer who is both a main consumer in the Japanese animation industry and the one who votes the most on this particular site (everywhere else too I guess), does not like series like this. Why? Because the viewer is average.
We are talking about a deep psychological and philosophical science fiction here. Most prefer sci-fi with sick explosions and battles on a cosmic scale, but instead here they get a discourse into human and its mind and heart. And occasionally, when required, action scenes happen. The problem is, you see, that the average viewer is most gladly consuming full-fledged action series like, lets say, Shingeki no Kyojin or 99% of those dirty "another world fantasies". This kind of series? THE AVERAGE VIEWER IS DISAPPOINTED THERE IS NOT EXTREME ACTION AND VIOLENCE, and so he subjectively does not ever consider properly evaluating the series as a piece of art. If the average viewer does not like it, then it is automatically bad in their eyes, metaphorically speaking. But they keep on watching, and later just say "not the best series I give it 6/10 but 7/10 because strong last episode". This is a universal rule.
Is being rated 7/10 bad? It is not. It is the other way around. The worst series get rated (on the average) 5/10 because they are objectively bad and even the averagest of average viewers can see it. Series that fail to realize their own unique potential end up being 6/10, regardless of how bad or good they were. Series that are not predestined to the average, the mass viewer always end up being 7/10 on this site. And considering this site is almost a perfect reflection of the general attitude towards industry, it is safe to assume everywhere else it works the same. Series like Boogiepop are either too complex or too mentally demanding of a viewer to be merely a "consumer" product. It requires the person to invest itself into the world and concepts, else the person will not be able to either follow the line of narrative or fathom the ideas put into the series. And this is a series with deep psychological basis. They never do easily open up to the average viewer, the simplest people can hardly grasp how their own being works, forget going as far as to looking into the being of others from a third perspective. This is not an entertainment series, this is a piece of art you can't blindly consume. Which, in the eyes of the average viewer, contrasts in a bad way with flashy, quick fighting scenes, based on epicness, ingenuity, upping the scale and heroic/heinous one-liners.
To sum it up, it is just how the modern societies work as a whole. It is not surprising, as it merely reflects the reality of people and their overall attitude to everything, but a bit saddening nevertheless. If steps taken are correct, it will change with time. Best way to help us bright about a brighter future? Don't become an average viewer. Think, think twice, reflect and then vote with your heart and soul.
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And people wonder why we're constantly getting trash battle shounen and isekai back to back to back to back to back
Wish there were more shows like this but anime these days :(
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Andy_Roo_45 said:
Ahhh it's nice to see these elitist posts saying it's because other people are stupid or uncultured... I'm sure that's a great selling point if your an obnoxious cretin. Maybe some people don't like it or it's not for them. It really isn't the perfect anime by any stretch, feel the conclusions to the arcs are a little underwhelming, but I have enjoyed it overall and it has the best soundtrack of the season hands-down. The characters designs could have been better, it could be hard to tell some apart. Think you definitely need to binge the arcs as I watched it weekly and it doesn't seem the best way of tackling this series. 7/10 is exactly what i gave it. It's good, but not great.
And why are people bashing Mob? How does that make your argument better for this series? That's just sad. Totally different types of series for one! Boogiepop isn't a shonen so how can you compare.
Hardcore Boogiepop fans are pretentious overthinkers.
No doubt, some of the replies above are nauseating in their pomposity
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papsoshea said:
Andy_Roo_45 said:
Ahhh it's nice to see these elitist posts saying it's because other people are stupid or uncultured... I'm sure that's a great selling point if your an obnoxious cretin. Maybe some people don't like it or it's not for them. It really isn't the perfect anime by any stretch, feel the conclusions to the arcs are a little underwhelming, but I have enjoyed it overall and it has the best soundtrack of the season hands-down. The characters designs could have been better, it could be hard to tell some apart. Think you definitely need to binge the arcs as I watched it weekly and it doesn't seem the best way of tackling this series. 7/10 is exactly what i gave it. It's good, but not great.
And why are people bashing Mob? How does that make your argument better for this series? That's just sad. Totally different types of series for one! Boogiepop isn't a shonen so how can you compare.
Hardcore Boogiepop fans are pretentious overthinkers.


I would say some people calling other people pretentious are the ones full of themselves pretending to know better, but suit your own thoughts in your review I guess.

Oh yeah, about that, try reading this TV Tropes article on "Show don't Tell", talking about it.

Kinda reminds me way back in the early 00s, people calling GitS:SAC, Tehxnolyze and Evangelion pretentious just because they require you to think a bit about the content and rewatch some episodes here and there.

Andy_Roo_45 said:
papsoshea said:
Hardcore Boogiepop fans are pretentious overthinkers.
No doubt, some of the replies above are nauseating in their pomposity


This exchange is especially ironic btw, my dear noblemen :v
Don't try calling out wannabe "know-it-all"s if you are going to act just like them, please.

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A serious question? A bit serious answer:
Because the average (generic, grey mass, typical, ordinary) viewer who is both a main consumer in the Japanese animation industry and the one who votes the most on this particular site (everywhere else too I guess), does not like series like this. Why? Because the viewer is average.
We are talking about a deep psychological and philosophical science fiction here. Most prefer sci-fi with sick explosions and battles on a cosmic scale, but instead here they get a discourse into human and its mind and heart.
Man, i haven't even watched this show, but really your comment is bullshit. You call the people on this site AVARAGE VIEWER just because they gave a 7/10 to a series that you like. Really? Do you believe you are superior, intelligent and "not avarage" like all the people that gave a 7? You seem a bit immature. "We are talking about a deep psychological and philosophical science fiction here", well, same as Steins;gate and it gets a 9.13. Have you seen the top rated animes in this site? First is Fullmetal alchemist that REALLY deals with philosophy and complex characters in a psychological way. And you can't prove me wrong because i studied philosophy all my life. "THE AVERAGE VIEWER IS DISAPPOINTED THERE IS NOT EXTREME ACTION AND VIOLENCE", mmm okkkk… But in the top rated animes we see Haikyuu, Sora Yori Mo Tooi Basho, Koe no Katachi, Violet Evergarden, 3-gatsu no lion… All of them are really "complex and mentally demanding" (like you say) because they're about bullying, acceptance, dreams, discrimination and DON'T contain EXTREME action or violence, however the ""avarage viewers"" (like you say) gave them 8.5/9. Stop defending the series you like claiming that others are average and too stupid to understand such deep and complex characters that you can understand and valorize because you are sooo smart… You even say that these fucking ratings in a fucking anime site "reflect the modern society and our reality" REALLY??? Do some stupid ratings REFLECT THE SOCIETY? Please, stop with this bullshit and "elitism"
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Holy shit. I need to go back to this show and join the fun.

Love how people talk about the extreme complexity of this show like it invented non-linear narration and philosophical themes. I mean, what I saw was enjoyable and it does require a consistent effort to stay tuned -since I couldn't give it and ended up like 3-4 episodes behind, I put it on-hold- but that's rather due to its structure and continuity than the themes it has. And calm down, holy shit, no one ever would like to sell their show saying that it's too complex and difficult to understand. You are alienating the viewers as some sort of posers who brag about their intelligence and attention for detail like people give a fuck about how high their IQ is. Nowhere in this show it says that you need to be an asshat and/or prove yourself worthy to enjoy it.
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Giulia14 said:
Daniel_Naumov said:
A serious question? A bit serious answer:
Because the average (generic, grey mass, typical, ordinary) viewer who is both a main consumer in the Japanese animation industry and the one who votes the most on this particular site (everywhere else too I guess), does not like series like this. Why? Because the viewer is average.
We are talking about a deep psychological and philosophical science fiction here. Most prefer sci-fi with sick explosions and battles on a cosmic scale, but instead here they get a discourse into human and its mind and heart.
Man, i haven't even watched this show, but really your comment is bullshit. You call the people on this site AVARAGE VIEWER just because they gave a 7/10 to a series that you like. Really? Do you believe you are superior, intelligent and "not avarage" like all the people that gave a 7? You seem a bit immature. "We are talking about a deep psychological and philosophical science fiction here", well, same as Steins;gate and it gets a 9.13. Have you seen the top rated animes in this site? First is Fullmetal alchemist that REALLY deals with philosophy and complex characters in a psychological way. And you can't prove me wrong because i studied philosophy all my life. "THE AVERAGE VIEWER IS DISAPPOINTED THERE IS NOT EXTREME ACTION AND VIOLENCE", mmm okkkk… But in the top rated animes we see Haikyuu, Sora Yori Mo Tooi Basho, Koe no Katachi, Violet Evergarden, 3-gatsu no lion… All of them are really "complex and mentally demanding" (like you say) because they're about bullying, acceptance, dreams, discrimination and DON'T contain EXTREME action or violence, however the ""avarage viewers"" (like you say) gave them 8.5/9. Stop defending the series you like claiming that others are average and too stupid to understand such deep and complex characters that you can understand and valorize because you are sooo smart… You even say that these fucking ratings in a fucking anime site "reflect the modern society and our reality" REALLY??? Do some stupid ratings REFLECT THE SOCIETY? Please, stop with this bullshit and "elitism"

However unwanted, your response is an evidence to what I have said. You can call it "elitism", I call it "Not being an average, one dimensional mass consumer". If all goes well, one day you will understand what I was talking about. Maybe you will even be able to read the whole paragraph I have written. And also see this series.
jal90 said:
Holy shit. I need to go back to this show and join the fun.

Love how people talk about the extreme complexity of this show like it invented non-linear narration and philosophical themes. I mean, what I saw was enjoyable and it does require a consistent effort to stay tuned -since I couldn't give it and ended up like 3-4 episodes behind, I put it on-hold- but that's rather due to its structure and continuity than the themes it has. And calm down, holy shit, no one ever would like to sell their show saying that it's too complex and difficult to understand. You are alienating the viewers as some sort of posers who brag about their intelligence and attention for detail like people give a fuck about how high their IQ is. Nowhere in this show it says that you need to be an asshat and/or prove yourself worthy to enjoy it.

The thing is, we are not "selling a show", we are "discussing a series". It is not an entertainment product, as I have already stated. It is a piece of art that is not anyhow obliged to you, you are the one who comes to see it. Your overall attitude, again, proves me right in my estimations.
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jal90 said:
Holy shit. I need to go back to this show and join the fun.

Love how people talk about the extreme complexity of this show like it invented non-linear narration and philosophical themes. I mean, what I saw was enjoyable and it does require a consistent effort to stay tuned -since I couldn't give it and ended up like 3-4 episodes behind, I put it on-hold- but that's rather due to its structure and continuity than the themes it has. And calm down, holy shit, no one ever would like to sell their show saying that it's too complex and difficult to understand. You are alienating the viewers as some sort of posers who brag about their intelligence and attention for detail like people give a fuck about how high their IQ is. Nowhere in this show it says that you need to be an asshat and/or prove yourself worthy to enjoy it.

The thing is, we are not "selling a show", we are "discussing a series". It is not an entertainment product, as I have already stated. It is a piece of art that is not anyhow obliged to you, you are the one who comes to see it. Your overall attitude, again, proves me right in my estimations.

I was talking about the author. Like, I imagine the author saying "you need to have an IQ of 200 to enjoy my show" and I can't help but laugh. This is really such an obvious fan thing that the creator would never sustain or defend seriously.

And don't think that you can lecture me on what I watch, why and how should I watch it. Know your boundaries.
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Haven't watched the Anime yet, but most people do not have good taste, that is why it is rated low.
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Man, i haven't even watched this show, but really your comment is bullshit. You call the people on this site AVARAGE VIEWER just because they gave a 7/10 to a series that you like. Really? Do you believe you are superior, intelligent and "not avarage" like all the people that gave a 7? You seem a bit immature. "We are talking about a deep psychological and philosophical science fiction here", well, same as Steins;gate and it gets a 9.13. Have you seen the top rated animes in this site? First is Fullmetal alchemist that REALLY deals with philosophy and complex characters in a psychological way. And you can't prove me wrong because i studied philosophy all my life. "THE AVERAGE VIEWER IS DISAPPOINTED THERE IS NOT EXTREME ACTION AND VIOLENCE", mmm okkkk… But in the top rated animes we see Haikyuu, Sora Yori Mo Tooi Basho, Koe no Katachi, Violet Evergarden, 3-gatsu no lion… All of them are really "complex and mentally demanding" (like you say) because they're about bullying, acceptance, dreams, discrimination and DON'T contain EXTREME action or violence, however the ""avarage viewers"" (like you say) gave them 8.5/9. Stop defending the series you like claiming that others are average and too stupid to understand such deep and complex characters that you can understand and valorize because you are sooo smart… You even say that these fucking ratings in a fucking anime site "reflect the modern society and our reality" REALLY??? Do some stupid ratings REFLECT THE SOCIETY? Please, stop with this bullshit and "elitism"

However unwanted, your response is an evidence to what I have said. You can call it "elitism", I call it "Not being an average, one dimensional mass consumer". If all goes well, one day you will understand what I was talking about. Maybe you will even be able to read the whole paragraph I have written. And also see this series.
"Unwanted" if you don't want replies then you shouldn't post your opinions in a public forum, don't you think? And i obviously read the Whole paragraph, in fact i quoted all the things you said in the beginning and in the end lmao. You literally said that the "average viewers" of this site only give 9/10 to series plenty of violence and action, and that they can't understand series with philosophical themes or psuchological complexity, that's why they give them 6 or 7. And I mentioned you complex and amazing series that don't contain extreme violence BUT are highly rated in this site. Reread your comment because i read it all and debated all that you said. It's YOU the one who didn't respond properly to what i said. Or maybe you just intentionally avoided it because i am right, mmmmm….
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Daniel_Naumov said:

The thing is, we are not "selling a show", we are "discussing a series". It is not an entertainment product, as I have already stated. It is a piece of art that is not anyhow obliged to you, you are the one who comes to see it. Your overall attitude, again, proves me right in my estimations.


Your whole attitude is so full of a sham and cute pomposity that I can't help but laugh. I'm enjoying the show but it gets me all snickering how much people are overestimating it.

...if you're not trolling, though, then your situation is just sad.
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Daniel_Naumov said:

The thing is, we are not "selling a show", we are "discussing a series". It is not an entertainment product, as I have already stated. It is a piece of art that is not anyhow obliged to you, you are the one who comes to see it. Your overall attitude, again, proves me right in my estimations.


Your whole attitude is so full of a sham and cute pomposity that I can't help but laugh. I'm enjoying the show but it gets me all snickering how much people are overestimating it.

...if you're not trolling, though, then your situation is just sad.

As much funny the discourse into an average industry consumer is, as much sad you might or might not find my "situation", I said nothing that is not true and you evidently understand it, as you did not address my discourse but tried addressing my attitude. And you seem to be under a self-imposed mistaken impression I overestimate this series. Well, you should try and up your reading comprehension, you would really benefit from proper reading skills.
jal90 said:
Daniel_Naumov said:

The thing is, we are not "selling a show", we are "discussing a series". It is not an entertainment product, as I have already stated. It is a piece of art that is not anyhow obliged to you, you are the one who comes to see it. Your overall attitude, again, proves me right in my estimations.

I was talking about the author. Like, I imagine the author saying "you need to have an IQ of 200 to enjoy my show" and I can't help but laugh. This is really such an obvious fan thing that the creator would never sustain or defend seriously.

And don't think that you can lecture me on what I watch, why and how should I watch it. Know your boundaries.

I don't know anything about the author, I know only his work so I can not debate with you there. I know my boundaries.
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Daniel_Naumov said:

However unwanted, your response is an evidence to what I have said. You can call it "elitism", I call it "Not being an average, one dimensional mass consumer". If all goes well, one day you will understand what I was talking about. Maybe you will even be able to read the whole paragraph I have written. And also see this series.
"Unwanted" if you don't want replies then you shouldn't post your opinions in a public forum, don't you think? And i obviously read the Whole paragraph, in fact i quoted all the things you said in the beginning and in the end lmao. You literally said that the "average viewers" of this site only give 9/10 to series plenty of violence and action, and that they can't understand series with philosophical themes or psuchological complexity, that's why they give them 6 or 7. And I mentioned you complex and amazing series that don't contain extreme violence BUT are highly rated in this site. Reread your comment because i read it all and debated all that you said. It's YOU the one who didn't respond properly to what i said. Or maybe you just intentionally avoided it because i am right, mmmmm….

No... No, sorry. This is a language barrier right here. Not the response was unwanted, the evidence was. For you, as you surely did not want to paint yourself in a bad light by actually proving something you tried to disprove with words... but, well. We all were there, behind the needed level of understanding.
Again, I never said only violent and and filled with action series get a high score. Steins;Gate has a high score, for all the different reasons. Gintama has a high score, and violence there is as cartoony as they can get to make it look real. Once again, reading comprehension. English courses, films and serials with english subtitles, whatever. Don't even get me started on Violet Evergarden, that's an empty consumer product with a flashy cover right there. The rest I won't address both because I do agree with them having "worthy (as much as the lot here can provide a worthy evaluation)" rating, and because I have never said what you say I said. So, no points here. If you really do want to try to challenge me (and your standing, now), you should do so by actually providing points of how this particular series is what you claimed it is. Because I never claimed anything about Boogiepop except for it being deeply psychological and philosophical. And such themes seldom find recognition with the lessest of viewers.
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Daniel_Naumov said:
As much funny the discourse into an average industry consumer is, as much sad you might or might not find my "situation", I said nothing that is not true and you evidently understand it, as you did not address my discourse but tried addressing my attitude. And you seem to be under a self-imposed mistaken impression I overestimate this series. Well, you should try and up your reading comprehension, you would really benefit from proper reading skills.


Hey dude, that's some nice sophistry you got there. Too bad it won't really work here.

I only addressed your attitude because I thought it was funny. Your discourse is way too shallow and generic for me to bother with it, honestly.
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And with final episode it gets the score it deserves.

Complex storyline doesn't always mean masterpiece in everyones eyes but Boogiepop is at best decent.
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I think it's a fair grade, its an ambitious but not mindblowing show with a few issues.

MAL ratings are a joke anyway, any flavor of the season is overrated. Surprised boogiepop isn't below 7.
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I don't know but I gave it a 8 to this anime. You have to understand well what it tries to tell to you plus I loved the graphic. I heared people saying that it's complex and I think it is beautiful for this reason
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I am fine with the score but I think it deserves like a 7.4-7.7/10 although I gave it a 5 since there are too many details that have not been explained yet.



This anime is WAY WAY better than that overrated piece of shit named "Mob Psycho II".


It did explain everything. You just have to pay attention to every single episode. It doesn’t tell the story like normal anime does; it rather tells the story in such a bizzare way, which might need a rewatch to fully understand. Complexity and under-explanation aren’t the same thing.
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I like the setting of Boogiepop but my problem is the same as for the 2000 version of it, it is in many cases boring.
There are a lot of problems with that show but for me the most problematic thing is the narrative and the characters. Boogiepop and Kirima Nagi are great but thats it the others are forgettable. The overall storyline is interesting but how they tell us the story is bad, i dont know if the novels are more detailed and better structures but i had the feeling this anime left out important details.
I enjoyed even the wikia (boogiepop.fandom.com/wiki/Boogiepop_Wiki) way more than the anime itself.
Some people here are stating that its complex or too complex for some people, but thats not true. If you read the wikia a little bit then the anime became much clearer, as stated how the anime is telling the story is the problem which is confusing, but confusing and complex is not the same and just saying its confusing so it must be complex is ridiculous.
Besides the story telling and the characters i dont like the animation, it looks outdated. The music is great and some psychological and philosophical aspects are worth to keep on watching it.
Overall the rating is fair.
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Most anime fans don’t like anime that make you think. They just want something like Boku no Hero Academia. It’s unfortunate, since this is a great series. But we can’t help it.
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Some people are overthinking and overestimating this. This show isn't any complex, and it tries too hard that it ends up being overwhelming instead.


JudoJD said:
And people wonder why we're constantly getting trash battle shounen and isekai back to back to back to back to back
Wish there were more shows like this but anime these days :(


77Anonymous__77 said:
Most anime fans don’t like anime that make you think. They just want something like Boku no Hero Academia. It’s unfortunate, since this is a great series. But we can’t help it.


I frankly prefer those kind of shows (even I'm sick of them too) over these shows that try hard and fail. Remerber that "complex and deep" not shounen/action shows may be bad too.
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Azazin said:
I like the setting of Boogiepop but my problem is the same as for the 2000 version of it, it is in many cases boring.
There are a lot of problems with that show but for me the most problematic thing is the narrative and the characters. Boogiepop and Kirima Nagi are great but thats it the others are forgettable. The overall storyline is interesting but how they tell us the story is bad, i dont know if the novels are more detailed and better structures but i had the feeling this anime left out important details.
I enjoyed even the wikia (boogiepop.fandom.com/wiki/Boogiepop_Wiki) way more than the anime itself.
Some people here are stating that its complex or too complex for some people, but thats not true. If you read the wikia a little bit then the anime became much clearer, as stated how the anime is telling the story is the problem which is confusing, but confusing and complex is not the same and just saying its confusing so it must be complex is ridiculous.
Besides the story telling and the characters i dont like the animation, it looks outdated. The music is great and some psychological and philosophical aspects are worth to keep on watching it.
Overall the rating is fair.


Personally I think the animation was not bad. It gave the right vibe.
Other than that, I agree with what you said.
And some of this fanbase remindes me of the Rick and Morty stereotypical fanbase: "The average viewer just doesn't get it!" are you serious?!
Yes, it does need a bit of focus, but after the first arc, it's not hard to follow. But if you feel smart about yourself for "getting it", then go ahead.
This show wasn't bad, not at all, but the rating seems pretty normal.
And for all the comments about "It's low because no Boom Boom! People no likey use brain", you have plenty of shows that don't have them and are high rated. (things like Violet Evergarden, mushishi, and yes, even Death Note)
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It was boring as fuck pretty much all the way through.
I didn't get invested at all with the series, and I can name only one character in the whole show (bonus points to the first one to guess who).
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It was boring as fuck pretty much all the way through.
I didn't get invested at all with the series, and I can name only one character in the whole show (bonus points to the first one to guess who).


Spooky E.
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CondemneDio said:
It was boring as fuck pretty much all the way through.
I didn't get invested at all with the series, and I can name only one character in the whole show (bonus points to the first one to guess who).


Spooky E.
Did i guess correctly?

...who was that? Ah, the weird guy with weird eyes.

It's Boogiepop. And only because it's in the name of the anime, and it was uttered so many times during it.
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Rhapsody- said:
Some people are overthinking and overestimating this. This show isn't any complex, and it tries too hard that it ends up being overwhelming instead.


JudoJD said:
And people wonder why we're constantly getting trash battle shounen and isekai back to back to back to back to back
Wish there were more shows like this but anime these days :(


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Most anime fans don’t like anime that make you think. They just want something like Boku no Hero Academia. It’s unfortunate, since this is a great series. But we can’t help it.


I frankly prefer those kind of shows (even I'm sick of them too) over these shows that try hard and fail. Remerber that "complex and deep" not shounen/action shows may be bad too.

>isn't any complex
>ends up being overwhelming

Trying what lol. Kadono's pretty straight forward. The show just did it's thing and bounced.. Obviously it's not for everyone (that's why you have someone thinking it's "trying so hard" to do anything when it's really not) and clearly it's not overwhelming to some people so the issue just boils down to the person watching
(Yeah I know some people never want to consider the viewer's the issue and feel insulted by anyone pointing it out as it is usually with these kinds of shows... I still don't know what to tell the guy who said if the show is confusing to them then it's the show doing something wrong like lol...anyways the most popular shows of late speak for themselves...I don't expect certain people to enjoy,like or even think a show like this is good ..reeee insert insecure r/iamverysmart defense here...)
The general reception to a show like this is pretty much what anyone who's spent 20 seconds in a general anime discussion group would expect.

and yah...of course you do....like I said....of course you do...
....of course you do...

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Oh my god it's another "Why is this anime rated x/10" forum. Are you people incapable of having your own opinions? Why do you give so much of a shit about what other people think?


Sorry if I come off as a dick but I'm just annoyed at these forums coming up on every new anime that has lower than an 8/10.
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JudoJD said:
Rhapsody- said:
Some people are overthinking and overestimating this. This show isn't any complex, and it tries too hard that it ends up being overwhelming instead.






I frankly prefer those kind of shows (even I'm sick of them too) over these shows that try hard and fail. Remerber that "complex and deep" not shounen/action shows may be bad too.

>isn't any complex
>ends up being overwhelming

Trying what lol. Kadono's pretty straight forward. The show just did it's thing and bounced.. Obviously it's not for everyone (that's why you have someone thinking it's "trying so hard" to do anything when it's really not) and clearly it's not overwhelming to some people so the issue just boils down to the person watching
(Yeah I know some people never want to consider the viewer's the issue and feel insulted by anyone pointing it out as it is usually with these kinds of shows... I still don't know what to tell the guy who said if the show is confusing to them then it's the show doing something wrong like lol...anyways the most popular shows of late speak for themselves...I don't expect certain people to enjoy,like or even think a show like this is good ..reeee insert insecure r/iamverysmart defense here...)
The general reception to a show like this is pretty much what anyone who's spent 20 seconds in a general anime discussion group would expect.

and yah...of course you do....like I said....of course you do...
....of course you do...

As someone who cannot enjoy isekai/fantasy (and shounen battle, which I used to), I can relate with you. We really need more mystery/psychological series in anime medium, but since the former genres are much popular with the current demographics, you can expect which way the anime industry would choose to follow.
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the story is trying to hard to look deep but actually so shallow

nothing keep us engaged in the middle of the arc, imagine watching 5 episode arc and that 4 episode worth nothing, always make me sleepy and have no interest to next episode and the finale conclude nothing to overall plot of the anime

MAL score and most user-based rating system are all joke, Imagine trusting plebs and hivemind. Find users who have good sense and rating and use them as a reference. Check my guide to rate
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cool concept n the first few eps were good but idk i lost interest in the middle and just got really boring so i gave it a 6
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My Personal Score:
Arc Manticore: 7
Arc VS IMAGINATOR: 8
Arc Yoake no Boogiepop: 9.5
Arc King of Distortion: 9

I wish Boogiepop series will have season 2
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The simulcast of the anime hurt it's rating basically. You need binge watch it to actually enjoy it. If it was launched all together like devilman or other netflix ONA's, people would've enjoyed it a lot
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should be a 5 or 6 tbf
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