Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken Episode 24 Discussion

LynxV1 said:
This episode seems a bit out of place to me. Diablo seems like a more important character than this introduction. Seemed kinda rushed? Idk. Like how the entire episode Diablo was stated to be this awesome progenitor demon or something, and then there wasn't any further explanation. Seemed like a good build-up, but then at the end of the episode they went "Oh rimuru named him diablo"...like is that it? Are they gonna show us how diablo and rimuru met and etcetera? I didn't read the light novel, and as of episode 23? I think they're ahead of the manga now. At least the translated ones.

Fede_5000 said:


Sure you want her to look like mary sue's characters like Erza Scarlet, but of course, nobody complains despite being as powerful as Rimuru that so many people only know how to complain about that OP aspect.

nightcrawlercyp said:
So you think that this was predictable by most people? just because she is not Sherlock does not make her dumb. About weak she consumed almost all her power against Kuro.For most creatures in that universe magic has cool down time. About being saved it was no accident Kuro was waiting around her for the arch demon to reveal himself. Not really plot armor or cliche.

q1w2e3r4t5 said:
even the minister said she was “slow to catch on”. And I can’t help but think think she’s weak. At the beginning she praised as being the strongest conqueror of flames or whatever but after that she doesn’t win a single fight. She draws with Kuro and she admits she was weaker. And she loses to the arch demon. Her using up all her magic shouldn’t be a thing because she is one of the strongest but runs out of magic after 5 minutes? So at one point she’s like a god and the next she’s a sitting duck because she’s out of magic? In Konosuba, Megumin gets paralyzed after she’s uses explosion magic. The difference is that that anime is a JOKE. For a plot device like that to be in a more serious anime like Slime is simply retarded. And if Shizu knew, she was low magic, she shouldn’t prioritized escaping rather than fight and die like an idiot. And the part about her being saved, it is cliche because I’ve seen it happen in goblin slayer. The guy is trying to kill something but saves the girl in the process. How convenient.

nightcrawlercyp said:
1. did you catch on? I thought black was the villain here. 2. she was the strongest in the room. Kuro is extremely strong. She is never like a god, compared to a demon Lord she is extremely weak. Even slime managed to beat her. It all depends with whom you compare her strength. 3. not sure what you mean about dying like an idiot 4. Kuro has a master plan regarding this world and needs strong creatures to fulfill it. When he saw how strong Shizu was he saved her so that he could use her later. Also how is this a cliche? He was ready to kill her if she were weak.

LeenPhoenixRae said:
That was a nice backstory, explaining who that guy was. Now why would Rimuru summon him?

El_Caguai said:
YES glorious that at least this extra was presented to Diablo the best husbando of Rimuru ✿♥‿♥✿

nina444 said:

I wonder where did you @DarkLunacy
@anikevin get that impression ? rimuru did summon a demon for ramiris in ep 23 after all .
so mybe diablo simply intends to answer the call the next time rimuru summons a demon again in the future .

btw the narrator in this ep 24 is in fact rimuru himself , not diablo .

Paul said:
Oh my, that walking animation.

The ending only wants to make me go read ahead. Really hoping we get another season announced next episode, if we have to wait long, just knowing would be enough.

DarkLunacy said:


What I was curious about wasn't if he could see the future or not but why he was so sure on ep 23 he was going to be the next, like if summoning is just like opening a gate and the faster gets summoned so he was going to camp next to it or kill anyone who tries to cross first, they're summoned directly and he's the next compatible with Rimuru. Shit like that.

q1w2e3r4t5 said:
Shizue is so dumb and weak. She was tricked and was about to die but luckily plot armor saved her. So typical for a woman to be tricked, choked, and then saved by someone. Couldn’t get anymore cliche

q1w2e3r4t5 said:
even the minister said she was “slow to catch on”. And I can’t help but think think she’s weak. At the beginning she praised as being the strongest conqueror of flames or whatever but after that she doesn’t win a single fight. She draws with Kuro and she admits she was weaker. And she loses to the arch demon. Her using up all her magic shouldn’t be a thing because she is one of the strongest but runs out of magic after 5 minutes? So at one point she’s like a god and the next she’s a sitting duck because she’s out of magic? In Konosuba, Megumin gets paralyzed after she’s uses explosion magic. The difference is that that anime is a JOKE. For a plot device like that to be in a more serious anime like Slime is simply retarded. And if Shizu knew, she was low magic, she shouldn’t prioritized escaping rather than fight and die like an idiot. And the part about her being saved, it is cliche because I’ve seen it happen in goblin slayer. The guy is trying to kill something but saves the girl in the process. How convenient.

Howlong said:


One of the most powerful champions from that universe was the Silver Wings duo. Who was also tricked by Orthos and killed. But before one of Silver Wings member dies, she summoned Diablo (Thank God. Or should i say "Thank the Devil"). Cos if it weren't Diable. Shizu would've been dead. And Orthos will continue killing champions.

Honestly even I would be caught off guard. It's just one weird random plot twist. The one who summoned you to kill demons as a quest is actually a demon itself. Can you imagine.

Howlong said:


What part of you don't understand that she is "weak". Nobody in that story or anime said Shizu is a god or something. The only thing that keeping her alive was Ifrit.

She came from World War 2 Japan. Her village was bombed and was burning and her skin. She lost her mother. Then suddenly summoned into another world and almost died up until Leon Cromwell merge her with Ifrit.

Even the demon general that chocked her was not intimidated by Ifrit. She's powerful because she is weak and kind. The people around her is what makes her strong. The mask alone is a testament of that.

She is Japanese. And Japanese people don't like standing out. Fitting in like the rest of the society is what makes them different from the rest of the world (With the exception of rimuru, who became a slime)

q1w2e3r4t5 said:
1. I was just making a point that she is dumb when you said she was not. 2. I doubt she could have beaten the arch demon even with her magic. 3. She faced him knowing she was prolly gonna die. The arch demon even said “don’t be a fool! Your magic hasn’t even recovered.” Did she care? Not really. 4. I don’t care about the reasons as to why Kuro saved her. It’s still the damsel in distress cliche.

nightcrawlercyp said:
1. you still had not answered my question: did you figure out the arch demon sonctrolled everything before it was revealed? 2. She could have. She managed to damage Kuro. Compared to Kuro the arch demon is a fly 3. And what was she supposed to do? Lie down and die? Running was not an option at that point. Beg? 4. The damsel in distress thing is not a cliche as much as biological reality. That being said women doing something about it instead of just waiting to be saved was a motive from the oldest stories despite feminist lies. That being said you seem unable to accept a female hero having moments of weakness and needing to be rescued. Everyone has moments like that, but for you unless the hero is a Mary Sue you will reee. So let's stop this conversation here as is clear you cannot be reasoned with.

q1w2e3r4t5 said:
1. Yes, I did know. Funny thing is I answered it while replying to another user by the name of Howlong. 2. Kuro was caught off guard by the mask’s power. She didn’t land any hits on him with her sword or fire. 3. She did say she had no choice but I think it would have been easier to bust down the door behind her than trying to fight an archdemon. 4. I admit it’s not so much a damsel in distress cliche but more a getting saved at the last second and everything turns out alright cliche. She put herself in that situation so I wanted to see her suffer the consequences. But instead she gets off scot free. I would have liked to see her lose an eye or arm. That way, she’d looked cooler like Zoro or Shanks. See? Reasonable, aren’t I?

anikevin said:
Wait... Why did Noir/Kuro/Diablo say he's gonna be summoned by Rimuru? Can he see the future? I didn't get the last part.

nightcrawlercyp said:
1. good for you. Maybe you read something similar before. For those that did not there may have been suspicions but nothing sure. 2.So the mask cut off his arm? makes little sense to me sorry 3. Have you considered maybe the door had some anti magic spell on it? generally door to room like this do have those mainly to prevent outsiders detecting the magic signature of the demon 4. She was not saved at the last second. The moment she got damage Kuro stepped in. He was just waiting to see if she can take Orthos down herself. Basically the reasoning was why put effort into it if someone else can do it for me? Also I would not say Kuro saved her rather he saved the plan he had for her. About suffering the consequences in this context it would have had side effects like Orthos becoming way stronger and her power getting lost forever.The part about lising an eye or arm you have seen too many unrealistic movies/anime. While losing an eye might be ok losing an arm means unless you stop the bleeding fast you will die really fast. The movie trope with people surviving arm loss and just shaking it off is bullshit. You have major blood vessels in your arms and legs. If they get cut you will bleed out fast if you don't do something to stop it. And btw One Piece is a crappy anime akin a soap opera.Your expectations are still unrealistic so I would not say you are reasonable. As an unrelated note is interesting that the word Orthos means straight,right,just but is given to a demon. Maybe Orthos was a hero that fought a demon was defeated by it and then the demon took its identity.

q1w2e3r4t5 said:
1. Anybody with common sense can tell something was fishy. It was basically spoon fed to us. 2. It seemed to be some kind of time manipulation ability which allowed her to cut him. Without it, she wouldn’t have dealt any damage. Her swordsmanship is slightly above average at best. The way the archdemon grabbed her sword and punched her shows how weak she is. Running out of magic is not an excuse for bad swordsmanship and lack of ability to dodge. Even with a little bit more fire power, it seriously wouldn’t have made a difference. 3. I did think that could have been the case but since the Shizue didn’t mention it in her thoughts, it’s safe to assume it’s just an ordinary door. The story doesn’t give enough context. That’s not my fault. 4. You don’t like one piece smh.

nightcrawlercyp said:
Just two things: 1. do you have any sword fighting training since you judge? 2. yes I do not like One piece for multiple reasons although it held lots of potential: 1. after 200 ep 500 chapters no real progress was made in the story 2. the number of fruits was supposed to be under 20 in the beginning and then they switch it to a lot more. 3. there is no dept to the story, no explanation on the fruits or anything. Also I suspect that just as Cpt Kidd which was the inspiration there is no treasure at all.

RafaelDeJongh said:
That mask really was the main focus point of this episode, that mask might be some kind of time control device? Really interesting though, do look forwards to see what the last extra episode of this season will offer!

lekrn said:


Actually it might be Sakurai Takahiro... reminds me of tiir ruminbul

Eoussama said:
You can't just 100% finish a game without spending some long play time on it, unless you're using cheats.

Comander-07 said:
nani? Nani nani? I dont understand.

ReaperCreeper said:
Why spoil that he's later summoned by Rimuru when a second season has already been announced?

TheRay28 said:
The episode structure is kinda weird but oh well. Another okay episode.

Right? And it felt out of place to me too.