Sword Art Online: Alicization Episode 15 Discussion

sfj4u said:
Jesus-kun strikes again!

Troll12345678966 said:
When will Asuna become relevant again? The ONLY thing she has done that has had any impact on the season thus far is getting Kirito stabbed. Will she enter the "machine"? or whatever it called or will she be sidelined until Kirirto breaks out of the simulation or something?? Although it doesn't seem like he even gives a shit about the outside world anymore. He hasn't even thought about Asuna since his sword grew! You would expect he would want to escape and reunite with everyone else, Asuna especially so. But he hasn't shown any signs of anger or wants to go back to the real world!

MRNX said:
tbh i hope she doesnt really get much screen time atm i really like how the series is going atm and i think if they would let her in the simulation at this moment it would ruin a lot of the development of the characters and it looks like kirito actually really enjoys himself in this new world (dont forget he doesnt have a clue on how to get out)

moonsensual said:


Yeah, I can see why Asuna's presence in the main story may effect everything else but I felt like it was a constant tease. Is she gonna go in or is she not? It seems like her only purpose is to be the worrisome girlfriend when we all know she's quite competent as a swordswoman. Though we had 2 anime adaptions with her, I don't see why not to have her in again.

I hope Asuna has a part to play with the weird ALICE program the guy he was running cause it was already sketchy enough that Kirito's location was a mystery until she dug right into finding him. Eventually Kirito would have to leave the program, he doesn't belong there. Perhaps Eugeo's fluctlight will join him in the real world like how Yui can still communicate to her "parents".

MRNX said:
I hope eugeo will be a returning character in the show he and kirito have great chemestry i hope they delete yui tho she gave too much plot armor in the first couple of seasons

Pedram said:


tbh Yui is not that much of a plot armor and what she do is all with the help of other things or quite normal.
some ppl misunderstand her sometimes and think she can do A LOT, like ppl mistakenly think that she hacked rath and let asuna come there lol

anyway, a small detail about Yui in the Arc after Alicization :

MRNX said:
true that she cant do anything anymore but i facking hated her when she was revealed to be a AI and when she basically ruined arc 1 because of some bullshit surrounding her and i didnt like her in the movie because she brought facking erveryone instead of just the gang

moonsensual said:


Yeah, I can see why Asuna's presence in the main story may effect everything else but I felt like it was a constant tease. Is she gonna go in or is she not? It seems like her only purpose is to be the worrisome girlfriend when we all know she's quite competent as a swordswoman. Though we had 2 anime adaptions with her, I don't see why not to have her in again.

I hope Asuna has a part to play with the weird ALICE program the guy he was running cause it was already sketchy enough that Kirito's location was a mystery until she dug right into finding him. Eventually Kirito would have to leave the program, he doesn't belong there. Perhaps Eugeo's fluctlight will join him in the real world like how Yui can still communicate to her "parents".

MRNX said:
tbh i hope she doesnt really get much screen time atm i really like how the series is going atm and i think if they would let her in the simulation at this moment it would ruin a lot of the development of the characters and it looks like kirito actually really enjoys himself in this new world (dont forget he doesnt have a clue on how to get out)

Woodfall said:
Kinda feels like dbz and fate combined at this point in a not so good way. Lots of screaming, whoever can scream the loudest wins. And knock off Jack the Ripper loli twins, umu, and people firing off noble phantasms at will. The combat system is kinda weird and....i really dont like how people (mainly kirito and eugeo) keep getting wounded, sometimes severely, then all of a sudden they are completely fine.

And not really sure how Kirito knew he was going to be poisoned. The girls were suspicious but there was really no sign of poison till she said it was. At first i thought they just got stabbed.

Story is kinda falling apart for me too at this point. Not really understanding where the whole Pontifex and the church thing comes into play when i thought it was the irl humans controlling this world. Wonder why they would let Pontifex have her way with it?

Hopefully it gets better i was enjoying it a lot more at the beginning and in the real life sections with asuna. At least this new ending theme is a banger.

Askorti said:

Both the Dark Knights and other Integrity Knights went easy on her when they knew she was a female.

CeddyyBearr said:
ok, I take my words back from last week.. they are not friendly after all. Way to let your guard down guys!

Hegar said:


Yes, which is ridiculous, since this fantasy setting is full of female knights. Female knight apprentices. Even female fencing teachers and the Pontifex. But they needed some motivation for this particular female knight, so they went and made up that men go easy on her.

Of course, in real life they wouldn't have to go easy on her, since she wouldn't be fighting. Women can't swing swords, despite what nerds have seen on TV. The strongest women are on par with the weakest men, and would barely be able to wield a real sword or spear for twenty seconds. Aside from, yes, a handful who do professional weight lifting every day. But in this society they magically have the same strength as men. Or it's the old "you don't need strength to swing a sword and pull a bow string, you just need speed and skill!" that TV shows are so fond of. Well, anything to show pretty girls.

Troll12345678966 said:
When will Asuna become relevant again? The ONLY thing she has done that has had any impact on the season thus far is getting Kirito stabbed. Will she enter the "machine"? or whatever it called or will she be sidelined until Kirirto breaks out of the simulation or something?? Although it doesn't seem like he even gives a shit about the outside world anymore. He hasn't even thought about Asuna since his sword grew! You would expect he would want to escape and reunite with everyone else, Asuna especially so. But he hasn't shown any signs of anger or wants to go back to the real world!

Askorti said:

I'm sorry my friend, but what you're saying is total BS. Yes, women are, on average, weaker than men. That's just how our bodies are made. But the strongest women are NOT weaker than the weakest men. Not even close. And yes, women very much can swing around swords and spears, and they do so regularly when they practice HEMA for example. No need for hardcore weightlifting training either. Women are weaker than men, but not by that much, and closing the gap is not as difficult as you say either.

deathbySNU-SNU said:
This shitty show still have some positive review eh? Lmao

whats with that OP? did they just changed it with a title and added some fight scene? so lame, worst OP so far

2 lolis appeared and i smell they will join kirito's harem as well

wow they already at 50th floor and face the vice commander

the vice commander's ultimate is shooting some shit made from sunlight

and the true gender of the vice commander is a woman!

"oh crap my helmet is broken! they wont take the fight seriously anymore, shit this is because that man from flashback!"

wtf? even the vice commander has a complex about her gender? shit

AND WHAT HAPPENED WITH THOSE 4 FOUR WHATEVER KNIGHTS? THEY JUST COME TO SWING THEIR SWORD ONCE BUT TOO BAD KIRITO PREFER TO FUCK THE VICE COMMANDER

then the vice commander told them not to interfere, she wants to fuck kirito by herself

i thought those knights will be fighting eugeo, but nope
THEY JUST FUCKING WATCHING DOING NOTHING WITH EUGEO LAYING ON THE FLOOR

and yes, again, the woman got mad and went berserk
she charged to kirito, and had some nice talk?
just like the other episodes, fights in this season is so fucking boring
TOO MUCH TALKING, NOT ENOUGH FIGHTING!

"ThIS SeAsOn iS GoINg tO bE ThE BeST SaO"

tbh i thought this show is going better just like those fanbois said

but the truth said NOPE

once a garbage, still garbage

Pedram said:



The reason they get wounded but they are fine is coz in UnderWorld as you get wounded u feel pain, sometimes even worse than real life coz UW have no chemical like Adrenaline to reduce pain. but the wound go away fast as long as you have enough "Life" in your body.

only if the wound is too big that the life is hugely reduced like Eugeo in Goblin fight, u will see the wound staying.

it's still a "game" world after all. you always see this in games... u get hit ! blood splash and ur appearance might get bloody for a bit, but then next moment u turn back into normal, even tho ur hp is a bit lower !


why Kirito knew about this poison is coz of the weapon and the weapon's sheath, they were special items for holding poison weapon. otherwise no one use such a rare item to hold a normal weapon.
Kirito know this for many reason, but one of the many reason is he just saw the same trick in Zakkaria chapter, which sadly was cut from the anime and only show to us in a few sec flashback ... welp

also why the girls were suspecius was coz they were breaking taboo if what they said was correct ! so kirito knew they were telling some lie, but didn't knew if they mean harm or not. so he didn't attack first and just prepared behind eugeo.




Lasty, why the Rath staff don't care it's because it's a Simulation and u normally don't manage a simulation in the middle of it. u let it run the full run.
plus they don't care ! UnderWorld at it's current state is a Failed simulation in their mind. and they are just w8ing for it to end and reach the "stress test phase" which is very soon, and then recreate it using their analyze and result.
They wanted a "rule breaking Fuctlight" like alice so they can compare it to their baby template and then just delete the whole underworld and create it newly with babies that can break rules and act like real humans.
Keep in mind the whole simulation started like a month ago. easily restart-able. the energy in Ocean Turtle is enough for over 6 years of experiment.


these are all explained already by Kikouka or Higa way back. or explained later by Cardinal a few EP ago. but anime skip a lot of it so people don't get bored i guess, they simplified everything hugely

reading novel u can even understand the advantage of a real human like AI and the ability to mass produce war experienced veteran solider and generals in a matter of day ! but not in anime.

Hegar said:



LOL Think before you write. You say what I write is "total BS" - then admit that women are weaker than men, just like I said. So how is that "total"? But I guess you just needed some word for emphasis without thinking about it too much.

Unlike you I don't rely on wishing and fantasy, but on facts. When I say that the strongest women - except a few exceptions, as mentioned - are on par with the weakest men, that is because I have seen the statistic for this. You haven't. And you will refuse to look them up. You prefer to keep your fantasies.

Laughable to claim that women would be able to swing swords, wield spears and bows the way men do. Even average men have trouble wielding a real sword well. In Sparta, it took a lot of training to thrust a spear well, since holding it up throughout a battle claimed a great deal of energy. A bow, the real kind used in battle, or the kind used in the Olympics, is very difficult to use. Archers were always strong. Those who practice competitive archery have to increase their strength, preferably through weight lifting.

At work we all went to practice archery once, with an instructor, and the competition after the practice was no contest. The men dominated completely. Even though almost none of us had any real experience, and even though these bows were weaker than the real kind. I tried pulling the string on a real bow there, it was really difficult. We also went fencing once, with an instructor and the real equipment, that registers hits on a board. After practicing we had a contest, three matches each, and then semi finals and finals. All the women were blown out of the water immediately. I don't think a single woman won a match against a single man. Okay, I'll grant, it may have happened once. But men completely dominated the fencing - and this even with light swords.

In short, I know about this, you don't. Now go watch some Hollywood show with women defeating men twice their weight. Xena Warrior Princess! She lives!

Woodfall said:

Hmm I see thank you for taking the time to respond so much! So if Kirito saw the trick before its no wonder he knew it was poison. The anime should really do a better job at explaining things I feel like they are skipping over a lot of the small details. Everything feels so rushed.

Yeah i remember all that stuff about them trying to create a human that will break the rules i just didnt think theyd want someone like pontifex controlling their world but if they will just make a new one if this one goes bad, then i guess they wouldnt really care.

As for the injuries disappearing part i understand what is happening now thanks to you but i dont really like that mechanic. Just seems plot convenient idk? I wish the anime did a better job of explaining all these things. Thanks for clarifying i appreciate it!

Woodfall said:

Hmm I see thank you for taking the time to respond so much! So if Kirito saw the trick before its no wonder he knew it was poison. The anime should really do a better job at explaining things I feel like they are skipping over a lot of the small details. Everything feels so rushed.

Yeah i remember all that stuff about them trying to create a human that will break the rules i just didnt think theyd want someone like pontifex controlling their world but if they will just make a new one if this one goes bad, then i guess they wouldnt really care.

As for the injuries disappearing part i understand what is happening now thanks to you but i dont really like that mechanic. Just seems plot convenient idk? I wish the anime did a better job of explaining all these things. Thanks for clarifying i appreciate it!

Ando said:
Jeez, Fanatio really has a complex with being a woman. Her demeanor completely changed as soon as her helmet was broken.

"ENHANCE ARMAMENT" sounds super cool haha. You know that some crazy stuff is about to happen right after 👀

Man, another cliffhanger. What is Kirito's perfect weapon control art??

deathbySNU-SNU said:
This shitty show still have some positive review eh?

Hegar said:
/cut/

By the way, I looked at people playing around in HEMA vids on YouTube. How amusing. Like the Williams sisters, they are able to lift and swing the tool, yes. And when you are just playing, you can imagine that the swing is comparable to real battle. From the study above:

"When controlling for weight, age, and height, the average female’s grip is 23.3 kg lower than the average males. When you don’t control for these things, the gap is a lot larger, with the average man being able to grip 33.8 kg stronger." Hey, what's that? A gnat trying to bite? Oh, it's someone trying to swing a sword. Be careful, you might dent my leather armor.

Lelouch0202 said:
I'm a little lost on how Kirito deduced that the loli's were gonna use some sort of poison/paralysis . It isn't hard to detect that they were upto something but I'm not sure how he knew from seemingly their scabbards that they were gonna use a paralysis attack.

Anyway, it was a good episode. The fight was super cool and the early animation with Kirito charging towards the knight and then jumping off the pillar was really cool.

Eugeo using his weapon arts was awesome too. Is Kirito using his next? Wonder what it is.