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| This episode was just questions after questions, and then more questions! :O Train scene was tense. Maho definitely knows Okabe had a deeper relationship with Kurisu than he's letting on. Cutest part of the episode goes to "Daga otoko da~!" |
| Seeing Amadeus makes me really miss Steins;Gate and the times where everyone was in the lab! Cel-17 and Dr.Pepper!!! |
| Finally, the best girl Shining Finger :D So much story and character, i don't know if it good or bad. |
| Im curious as to what Ruka wanted to talk about. She seemed rather in dire need of Okabe’s help. I wonder if it has anything to do with their searching or something more serious. Moeka finally shows up to Okabe. It’s getting rather interesting. Since Suzuha came from the future shouldn’t she also have negativity towards Moeka? |
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| Mind blown! So THIS is why Suzuha hated Kurisu! |
| WW3 flashback... forced time travel? hmm... The little girl looks like a mini Kurisu... but then that "guest" had red hair too... |
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| Damn as expected the future is very dark and depressing. Also this girl who went back in time with Suzuha reminds me a lot of Kurisu. maybe its a sign. Good to see Okabe is extending his fashion with that new dress XD |
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Minar-kyun said: Kagari kinda looks like Kurisu (with red hair and all). Could it be that she's actually Kurisu and Okabe's daughter ? And Mayuri adopted her after their death xD I didn't see Okabe and Kurisu in that flashback. Only Mayuri and Daru were there when Suzu and Kagari left. And the face Kagari thought of before pointing the gun looked like Okabe's face! Could it be that I'm reading too much into it ? :3  TheDarkMGames said: Minar-kyun said: Kagari kinda looks like Kurisu (with red hair and all). Could it be that she's actually Kurisu and Okabe's daughter ? And Mayuri adopted her after their death xD I didn't see Okabe and Kurisu in that flashback. Only Mayuri and Daru were there when Suzu and Kagari left. And the face Kagari thought of before pointing the gun looked like Okabe's face! Could it be that I'm reading too much into it ? :3 I think it looks like someone's face, but not Okabe's |
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Draconix814 said: Hmm as far as I remember, that was in the Alpha world lines. She hated Kurisu because she's the one who helped SERN complete their time machine and so their dystopia in the future. We don't really know about the Suzuha-Kurisu relationship in the Beta.Mind blown! So THIS is why Suzuha hated Kurisu! |
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AX3M said: Draconix814 said: Hmm as far as I remember, that was in the Alpha world lines. She hated Kurisu because she's the one who helped SERN complete their time machine and so their dystopia in the future. We don't really know about the Suzuha-Kurisu relationship in the Beta.Mind blown! So THIS is why Suzuha hated Kurisu! Wouldn't it be the same? It's evident Kurisu came from the future with Suzuha, and that's the only way she was allowed to live in the present day, get adopted by a scumbag father and try to build her own time machine. I mean, perhaps she did hate Kurisu for that reason, but didn't she always act like Kurisu was about to hurt her or some shit? Sounds like slight PTSD to me, especially after we see Kurisu point a gun at Suzuha. |
Exeterna said: SamBlack said: so this Kagari girl reeeeally looks like Kurisu... hmmmmmmmm.... I'm excited to see her in the current time! also, seeing the WWIII part at the beginning was awesome and freaky, can't wait to see the developments another great episode! Comander-07 said: Steins:Gate 0 is pure suffer porn. I thought Re:Zero was good in that, boi was I wrong. PS: kagari is kurisus daughter, right? (Just a speculation) Spoiler about shina kagari and kurisu , dont read if dont want to be spoiled |
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UndisputedEra said: For a second I thought they skipped the "Okinawa" timeline (or whatever it's called) I'd be very disappointed if they did, I love that part in the VN. Unfortunately, I think they skipped the whole month that Okabe passed in that timeline. So disappointing to see that one of the best moments of the VN was so poorly adapted. |
Suzuka said: UndisputedEra said: For a second I thought they skipped the "Okinawa" timeline (or whatever it's called) I'd be very disappointed if they did, I love that part in the VN. Unfortunately, I think they skipped the whole month that Okabe passed in that timeline. So disappointing to see that one of the best moments of the VN was so poorly adapted. UndisputedEra said: For a second I thought they skipped the "Okinawa" timeline (or whatever it's called) I'd be very disappointed if they did, I love that part in the VN. No it's not the part you are talking about is not yet adapted |
7th-Archangel said: Suzuka said: Unfortunately, I think they skipped the whole month that Okabe passed in that timeline. So disappointing to see that one of the best moments of the VN was so poorly adapted. UndisputedEra said: For a second I thought they skipped the "Okinawa" timeline (or whatever it's called) I'd be very disappointed if they did, I love that part in the VN. No it's not the part you are talking about is not yet adapted Maybe I'm confusing the scenes, but in the end of the WWIII timeline of the VN, Okabe answers a phone call just like it was shown in this episode. Before that, a lot of things happened that they didn't show, but of course that doesn't mean it won't be adapted. |
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Suzuka said: Maybe I'm confusing the scenes, but in the end of the WWIII timeline of the VN, Okabe answers a phone call just like it was shown in this episode. Before that, a lot of things happened that they didn't show, but of course that doesn't mean it won't be adapted. You are confusing the scene because the anime shifted the divergence point. We are clearly in the beginning of the PR route. With the difference of the XMas scene from X-Day Protocol replacing the old shrine scene divergence from Closed Epigraph, which doesnt even exist in the anime. They are trying to merge the divergence points to a single event instead of splitting them apart (PR shift, V&A shift and MWC spoiler now being placed on the XMas event). Think of the XMas Party being the old shrine event and the Reading Steiner trigger that happens if you shut down the phone to follow PR route. Which Okabe did in the anime as he has no recollection of talking with Amadeus again. So the anime will return to this scene later when the true ending trigger happens. |
sanleiMay 6, 2018 3:51 PM
sanlei said: Suzuka said: Maybe I'm confusing the scenes, but in the end of the WWIII timeline of the VN, Okabe answers a phone call just like it was shown in this episode. Before that, a lot of things happened that they didn't show, but of course that doesn't mean it won't be adapted. You are confusing the scene because the anime shifted the divergence point. We are clearly in the beginning of the PR route. With the difference of the XMas scene from X-Day Protocol replacing the old shrine scene divergence from Closed Epigraph, which doesnt even exist in the anime. They are trying to merge the divergence points to a single event instead of splitting them apart (PR shift, V&A shift and MWC spoiler now being placed on the XMas event). Think of the XMas Party being the old shrine event and the Reading Steiner trigger that happens if you shut down the phone to follow PR route. Which Okabe did in the anime as he has no recollection of talking with Amadeus again. So the anime will return to this scene later when the true ending trigger happens. That makes a lot more sense, thanks! I thought they were adapting the beginning of V&A because of the Christmas party and the teasers from WWIII timeline, but looking better into the episode it has to be PR due to Kagari's appearance. Maybe they won't merge only the divergence points, but also the other endings connected to the main routes (TA and RMG). |
sanlei said: Just read: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1726349&show=0#msg55140799 Thats how awesome the VN showed this scene. 3 Textmessages with a lazy background of smoke. You do not understand the brilliance of visual novels as a medium of storytelling. Those 3 "lazy" backgrounds allowed the reader to utilize their own imagination as method of conveying horror and helplessness. The words onscreen are only there to direct ones thoughts so they can experience this "hell on earth" for themselves. In contrast, the anime was nothing but gore porn. Then Okabe is in an office and is told to pick up a phone. And you are trying to argue this was an improvement? I suppose I was horrified, but only because of how shit this was. |
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Suzuka said: That makes a lot more sense, thanks! I thought they were adapting the beginning of V&A because of the Christmas party and the teasers from WWIII timeline, but looking better into the episode it has to be PR due to Kagari's appearance. Maybe they won't merge only the divergence points, but also the other endings connected to the main routes (TA and RMG). The episode is also called A Stray Sheep which is the first chapter of PR. But yeah you arent the only one confused by this merge. Its literally spoiler hell for some anime viewers as some spoiled the content of Pandoras Box in thinking they did cut it. I also agree we will probably/hopefully see more merges and some subending scenes are kinda needed for the story and for character development. TrueKireiPriest said: sanlei said: Just read: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1726349&show=0#msg55140799 Thats how awesome the VN showed this scene. 3 Textmessages with a lazy background of smoke. You do not understand the brilliance of visual novels as a medium of storytelling. Those 3 "lazy" backgrounds allowed the reader to utilize their own imagination as method of conveying horror and helplessness. The words onscreen are only there to direct ones thoughts so they can experience this "hell on earth" for themselves. In contrast, the anime was nothing but gore porn. Then Okabe is in an office and is told to pick up a phone. And you are trying to argue this was an improvement? I suppose I was horrified, but only because of how shit this was. Well i do read a large lot of japanese VNs, so i do know the "brilliance". So i wont completely disagree. However im fine with them using the first scene of PB for it as they will return to it anyway instead of trying to showcase the hell in another manner(which also would be more confusing in this merge). Also i do think the original PR scene is quite forgetful as most dont remember it and overwrote it with PB (or Gehenna) in their memories. So its not a real loss either. |
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| This new series is drawing me in more and more. I'm more curious than ever where they're going, with future Mayuri's adopted daughter's arc. She resembles Kurisu so much I wonder what she'll look like in present day. When they eventually find her. Also I really like how this series is expanding on Daru and Suzuha's very odd relationship. His almost cool Dad moment this episode was very nice. And now I'm wondering what Shining Finger's role here is going to be. She was always a confusing character to me in the first series. This series is juggling a lot right out the gate. I hope it can keep this solid momentum going. |
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sanlei said: Well i do read a large lot of japanese VNs, so i do know the "brilliance". So i wont completely disagree. However im fine with them using the first scene of PB for it as they will return to it anyway instead of trying to showcase the hell in another manner(which also would be more confusing in this merge). Also i do think the original PR scene is quite forgetful as most dont remember it and overwrote it with PB (or Gehenna) in their memories. So its not a real loss either. "Returning to it anyway" effectively means they spoiled one of the biggest twists in the story. It will not have the same impact. Both the anime and VN scenes are forgetful. Nobody will remember either of them. But the anime scene is forgetful and stupid. |
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RedNinja779 said: i am not a vn readers, and at first i also think that Kagari only appear because of line changed after okabe got the trauma.. but i think its wrong after rewatching episode 3, 7:51.. when suzuha watch the time machine she already reminisced about kagari... I think at that time the world line changed. It is strange that we never heard of a person that was together with Suzuha. I think the professor changed the world line. It is strange that Okabe saw him and then he disappeared. I think that professor made something similar like D-mail. Anyway I think the ation is sooooooo slow. I am a bit dissapointed. |
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| Another red head girl?! The "Okari-dreams" can mean that there is another person that is "playing" with the time!!! |
boredsalad said: Ulquiorra said: I didn't miss Moeka at all Well it's much better to have her as friend than enemy. I think she is going to be on the right side this time. it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. |
| Interesting... So the world lines must have changed for makise to be alive again. |
| I knew it, Alexis is up to something. Another new character called Kagari Shiina. It seems that also showed us scenes from WWIII. The last scene....Moeka is back!! 4/5 |
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| so what's exactly two minute in this episode. a dream form other worldline just like De Javu movie? |
neolucaman said: so what's exactly two minute in this episode. a dream form other worldline just like De Javu movie? |
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| I can't be the only one who thinks there might be a connection between Mayushi's daughter and Kurisu. Also the girl in the inn is definitely her. |
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| This is getting emotionally heavier by the episode! Really great yet very sorrowful... Looking forwards to see what's next! |
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| Whaaat??? I have the same kind of confusion as Okabe when he suddenly has visions of the future. Or was that him actually briefly transported to that other time or other worldlines? So the American scientist wanted Kurisu in the Amadeus to fall in love with Okabe. I wonder what for... Daru lost weight in the future? That's impressive. I'm guessing here that Mayuri's adopted child, Kagari is actually Okabe's and Kurisu's child, but now in Mayuri's care since Okabe and Kurisu has died at that point. That's only a guess though! Also, the guest that Ruka is having is definitely Kagari. |
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ShadowZ_AnimeZ said: Whaaat??? I have the same kind of confusion as Okabe when he suddenly has visions of the future. Or was that him actually briefly transported to that other time or other worldlines? The war scenes are not from the future. They are faint memories from previous worldlines which happened only in the VN. I think i can tell this at this point without spoiler mark, because this will never addressed in the anime. So that warzone scenes, and Okabe waking up in the bed is just a memory and have no relation at all to the scenes at the rooftop. Just the order of the scenes was kinda dumb in this episode. The actual thing is that the worldline changed, but it doesn't related to the warzone scene. It's like: Worldline A: -Maho and Okabe are on the rooftop -the worldline suddenly changes for some reason -> Worldline B Worldline B: -Maho and Okabe are on the rooftop at this time in this worldline too, however, Okabe called Amadeus back to apoligize (but this happened before Okabe from worldline A "reading steinered" to worldline B, and that's why he doesn't remember) ShadowZ_AnimeZ said: I'm guessing here that Mayuri's adopted child, Kagari is actually Okabe's and Kurisu's child, but now in Mayuri's care since Okabe and Kurisu has died at that point. Kurisu died in 2010, so she can't have a 10-year-old child with Okabe in 2036. |
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SheevPalpatine said: ShadowZ_AnimeZ said: Whaaat??? I have the same kind of confusion as Okabe when he suddenly has visions of the future. Or was that him actually briefly transported to that other time or other worldlines? The war scenes are not from the future. They are faint memories from previous worldlines which happened only in the VN. I think i can tell this at this point without spoiler mark, because this will never addressed in the anime. So that warzone scenes, and Okabe waking up in the bed is just a memory and have no relation at all to the scenes at the rooftop. Just the order of the scenes was kinda dumb in this episode. The actual thing is that the worldline changed, but it doesn't related to the warzone scene. It's like: Worldline A: -Maho and Okabe are on the rooftop -the worldline suddenly changes for some reason -> Worldline B Worldline B: -Maho and Okabe are on the rooftop at this time in this worldline too, however, Okabe called Amadeus back to apoligize (but this happened before Okabe from worldline A "reading steinered" to worldline B, and that's why he doesn't remember) ShadowZ_AnimeZ said: I'm guessing here that Mayuri's adopted child, Kagari is actually Okabe's and Kurisu's child, but now in Mayuri's care since Okabe and Kurisu has died at that point. Kurisu died in 2010, so she can't have a 10-year-old child with Okabe in 2036. I see... Your information regarding Okabe's vision was surely nice to know of. But I forgot that Kurisu died in 2010, lol. Still, Kagari is extremely similar to her... I'm starting to think that Okabe tried to clone her or something... |
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| Ok. I'm very confused because I don't remember much from previous season lol. |
| I wonder if these were visions of the future or visions of a different timeline or maybe he subconsciously used his Reading Steiner. We're learning about a new person, Kagari - A girl that Mayurii adopted in the future, though I'm sure there's more to it, looks way too similar to Kurisu. - The guest that Rukaku has is probably Kagari. "But he's a DUUUUUUDDEE!!" \o/ - Mayurii, never stop being cute :D |
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| I really enjoy the way they portray Okarin's paranoia and PTSD, it feels so real. Don't mind having some more Moeka, looks like she's just as bad at interacting with other people as always lol. |
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| Moeka turning up was... unexpected :/ |
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| So Okabe didn't remember what happened. His Reading Stainer is degrading I guess. So the guest is Kagari. There's gonna be something if Okabe and she meet. By the look of how Amadeus Kurisu works, Amadeus could someday rebel against its creator or owner. But I think Maho already made a counter-measure. Professor Leskinen is now on my suspect list. |
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