A nice video that i found it would be intressing to share. |
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| The only thing i got from this video is that i need to watch Two Car. |
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| I randomly skipped to the 10:55 mark and saw animated Trump lol. They drew him wrong, his face wasn't near orange enough .... who actually uses Crunchyroll? |
iSpadeFeb 4, 2018 4:45 PM
| at least not worse than pirate becasue they at least oaid licence fee, but that's none of my business... |
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| Doesn't crunchyroll lack uncensored anime? |
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| And that's what bad for you, listening to YTers. |
| The current business strategy Japanese Anime Industry is worse than Crunchyroll, 300$ buying the blue-ray is already questionable and available to rich people or compassionate supporters. |
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| For some reason i just knew it'd be someone sharing an youtube video |
youseiki said: The current business strategy Japanese Anime Industry is worse than Crunchyroll, 300$ buying the blue-ray is already questionable and available to rich people or compassionate supporters. Idk what they're trying to do with that price either, Meanwhile Western movie which is blockbuster Collector Edition never been that high. Even for seasonal TV series the price rarely goes from 60-120. Well talk about business strategy we know Japan want anime for themselves, and those dumb legal streaming site has limitations for specific region. |
| All the anime that I've watched legally is from crunchy (except netflix anime). I think that is the better thing to give money to the industry. |
| Because a random YouTuber said so. Must be true then. And I only watch interesting videos, thank you. |
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Phendrus said: Xaelath said: those dumb legal streaming site has limitations for specific region. That's not really their fault. They often can only get licenses for specific regions, so they can't stream to everyone without getting into legal trouble. Sometimes it's because another company got the rights to the show in the region in question; sometimes it's because they'd have to pay more money and they don't think it's worth the cost. They're not just locking you out to troll you. Edit: TheBigGuy said: Because a random YouTuber said so. Must be true then. And I only watch interesting videos, thank you. I like this guy! Wasn't that means basically the company want it specifically watched only by that region so other site or license will be needed to allow the specific region? Talk about greed lol it was right that Japan either want to keep anime for themselves, least that just my assumption, my 2 cents there. Idk if there's similiar example but game industry open to every country unless there's a region ban under government/publisher different reasons, Movie/TV series wise already worldwide, so does some popular cartoon though there's censorship. |
| Video main points: 1. Crunchyroll is owned by AT&T. AT&T was fined several times for different things. Video creator Googled "at&t fined". Basically 'shady behavior'. 2. Crunchyroll results in the increasing number of bad anime and the decrease in competition. They attempt to license everything which results in acquisition in quantity and not quality. Your monthly fee to watch a few hyped shows helps Crunchyroll fund their licensing of bad shows. 3. His solution? A new system where people pay for shows that they actually want to watch and not a flat fee for everything on Crunchyroll. This would result in studios that are forced to release good shows in order to make money or nobody would watch them. |
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Xaelath said: Idk what they're trying to do with that price either, Meanwhile Western movie which is blockbuster Collector Edition never been that high. Even for seasonal TV series the price rarely goes from 60-120. Well talk about business strategy we know Japan want anime for themselves, and those dumb legal streaming site has limitations for specific region. a bit support for their dying industry with a bit of help from Netflix and other producers from the west, it's just a matter of time till they change their strategy |
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youseiki said: Xaelath said: Idk what they're trying to do with that price either, Meanwhile Western movie which is blockbuster Collector Edition never been that high. Even for seasonal TV series the price rarely goes from 60-120. Well talk about business strategy we know Japan want anime for themselves, and those dumb legal streaming site has limitations for specific region. a bit support for their dying industry with a bit of help from Netflix and other producers from the west, it's just a matter of time till they change their strategy "Anime is dying" Blame piracy and customer for it. "Throw ridiculous license ToS and Overpriced BD" Anime was indeed a mistake. Netflix, yeah that might help abit. |
| Actually, streaming sites like Crunchyroll have just brought new people into figuring out what anime is. It brings out competition too. This guy sounds pretty dumb to me honestly. |
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| Idk op , if I lived in a different country I'd pay for the service but in my country I can't afford it . I would not get a good catalogue anyway . When I'm at my TV I use Crunchyroll (free) so why would I complain about it , OP? Tell me sth man, do u agree with that utuber? What do you think of it? |
Reina_Orikasa said: Video main points: 1. Crunchyroll is owned by AT&T. AT&T was fined several times for different things. Video creator Googled "at&t fined". Basically 'shady behavior'. 2. Crunchyroll results in the increasing number of bad anime and the decrease in competition. They attempt to license everything which results in acquisition in quantity and not quality. Your monthly fee to watch a few hyped shows helps Crunchyroll fund their licensing of bad shows. 3. His solution? A new system where people pay for shows that they actually want to watch and not a flat fee for everything on Crunchyroll. This would result in studios that are forced to release good shows in order to make money or nobody would watch them. Damn that sounds like a terrible idea. I mean unless they were selling shows for like a quarter youd just end up paying way more. Sorry if I'm misinterpreting anything I don't care enough to watch the video though. |
| If anime industry is dying, its totally on their hand and their hand only. They focus so much on their little merch and stuff to help them out in a bind but yet fail to focus on putting actual effort to their show/work. I understand focus on what sells, but that's inexcusable for poor quality. They also need to shift focus on a much broader audience. They need to understand the medium is globally recognize, and need to learn to shift their market profit into a global matter rather than regional/national. |
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| the TL;DR: 1. Crunchyroll claimed to give a significant portion of the revenue back to the anime industry, but this was - according to the video - before they were bought by AT&T-Cherning. AT&T, in particular, is known for deceptive practices and were ordered to pay the government millions of dollars for false advertisement. note: although the video claims AT&T-Cherning owns 80%, they now bought all the minority shares owned by TV-Tokyo, so AT&T-Cherning completely owns Crunchyroll as of now. 2. Crunchyroll is the reason for so many low quality anime - they buy the trash released by the anime companies (quantity over quality). part of the subscription fee is used to pay licenses for low quality shows 3. if many people stop paying Crunchyroll and start pirating, it will force Crunchyroll to offer a better service. 4. they should instead let us watch an anime series in all it's visual and audio glory for $1 / free tl;dr of the tl;dr: as one would expect, it's another video of a shameless pirate trying to justify not paying for anime and thinking they're doing good to the anime industry |
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Reina_Orikasa said: Video main points: 1. Crunchyroll is owned by AT&T. AT&T was fined several times for different things. Video creator Googled "at&t fined". Basically 'shady behavior'. 2. Crunchyroll results in the increasing number of bad anime and the decrease in competition. They attempt to license everything which results in acquisition in quantity and not quality. Your monthly fee to watch a few hyped shows helps Crunchyroll fund their licensing of bad shows. 3. His solution? A new system where people pay for shows that they actually want to watch and not a flat fee for everything on Crunchyroll. This would result in studios that are forced to release good shows in order to make money or nobody would watch them. Thanks for the summary. Wasn't about to waste my time watching this lol But that solution of his is beyond retarded. That wouldn't force creators to make good content, that would force them to make eye-catching content so that more people would 'buy' the show so they can take a look at it |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
youseiki said: The current business strategy Japanese Anime Industry is worse than Crunchyroll, 300$ buying the blue-ray is already questionable and available to rich people or compassionate supporters. Amazon Japan costs $30 per year, and a few other sites offer free anime streaming, with some caveats. you can also have a direct subscription to TV Tokyo (something like $10 a month or so iirc) and have access to their entire anime catalog. there's also the option of renting the anime for a dollar or so. blurays are indeed expensive, but not requirement for watching the shows in Japan. |
| You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
DreamingBeats said: Amazon Japan costs $30 per year, and a few other sites offer free anime streaming, with some caveats. you can also have a direct subscription to TV Tokyo (something like $10 a month or so iirc) and have access to their entire anime catalog. there's also the option of renting the anime for a dollar or so. blurays are indeed expensive, but not requirement for watching the shows in Japan. It's not really a requirement to buy the expensive BD, but I think people would love to buy them to support the Anime Industry, yet the price is too expensive, which is one of the biggest reason why people can't support them. Currently alternative means to support them is good enough. |
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velvetPhos said: Yeah, that’s true. Also, streaming services outside of Japan will never be good enough if Japanese companies don’t even want to try to create good business model in Japan. Yet it's amazing how they survived for 100 years. Japanese Industry is clinging to outsourcing even in making anime, if you've noticed, there's a lot of Korean Names in the Credits and it's the Western Companies are now entering into the market to produce some anime and they're also the ones who are promoting it with their streaming model. I doubt that they are stupid enough not to notice their problems, so it's just a matter of time till they change their strategy or they will fall and Korean and China will dominate the Industry. |
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| i hate CR but man, video is still stupid agree with the problems but man is the solution fcking stupid who will be the one who decides "better" content to be made? if it's the west then fck off i rather take 100 bad series for 1 tatami galaxy to be made over 50 medicore series that is also the same generic trash no one but mouthbreathers care about which people will get sick off and the same problem will arise again |
| It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
| Garbage video with innumerable logic holes I could drive a mac truck through and BS that illustrates quite well that he doesn't know what he's talking about or understand things like cause and effect or basic economics. Lastly proposes a "solution" that would simultaneously destroy legal streaming in the states and any chance of Japan making anything other than idol schlock, shounen battle garbage, and echi shows (aka the things Japan wants to watch because they wouldn't care about rhe rest of the world if we had no money for them). |
KruszerFeb 4, 2018 6:45 PM
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DreamingBeats said: tl;dr of the tl;dr: as one would expect, it's another video of a shameless pirate trying to justify not paying for anime and thinking they're doing good to the anime industry i like how the minority that uses legal stream sites still think that is unexcusable to use pirate sites or torrent, lol. |
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Phendrus said: i Totally agree. I think CR is supporting anime not destroying it lol pirated sites are the ones that is bad for anime... I have no interest in watching some idiot on YouTube try to justify his hatred of Crunchyroll and his love for not paying for anime. Crunchyroll at least has the decency to contribute money to the industry. People who favor piracy sites and don't contribute a dime toward anime have no room to talk about what's "bad" for the medium. Edit: Yes, I may be jumping to conclusions about this particular YouTuber, but I've seen enough raving idiots on YouTube (and this site, honestly) that I'm not going to give your little hit piece the time of day. |
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Killbay_Kun said: DreamingBeats said: tl;dr of the tl;dr: as one would expect, it's another video of a shameless pirate trying to justify not paying for anime and thinking they're doing good to the anime industry i like how the minority that uses legal stream sites still think that is unexcusable to use pirate sites or torrent, lol. what excuse? just admit you cheapskate and done... |
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| As much as I hate the current business model of anime industry and think CR etc is still not a good solution, this video is retarded. But I do love flame wars. So... What if anime die in the west? You guys are going bankrupt anyway. We have a lot of overseas animators, but each year more and more move to the holy land (and even more try to, especially since Japan is trying to suck specialized workers in atm.) |
| I decided to give this video a shot even though most anime youtuber are shills, but the moment he mentioned AT&T, I knew Crunchyroll was bad. You hear that you AT&T fuckers, your costumer service sucks. |
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Kuma said: Killbay_Kun said: i like how the minority that uses legal stream sites still think that is unexcusable to use pirate sites or torrent, lol. what excuse? just admit you cheapskate and done... very much in agreement. stop trying to make a moral justification for pirating shows. it's sad and honestly embarassing. |
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Phendrus said: I have no interest in watching some idiot on YouTube try to justify his hatred of Crunchyroll and his love for not paying for anime. Crunchyroll at least has the decency to contribute money to the industry. People who favor piracy sites and don't contribute a dime toward anime have no room to talk about what's "bad" for the medium. Edit: Yes, I may be jumping to conclusions about this particular YouTuber, but I've seen enough raving idiots on YouTube (and this site, honestly) that I'm not going to give your little hit piece the time of day. Yeah, just keep your hands over your ears. That way, you don't have to listen to things you don't like to hear. |
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DreamingBeats said: the TL;DR: 1. Crunchyroll claimed to give a significant portion of the revenue back to the anime industry, but this was - according to the video - before they were bought by AT&T-Cherning. AT&T, in particular, is known for deceptive practices and were ordered to pay the government millions of dollars for false advertisement. note: although the video claims AT&T-Cherning owns 80%, they now bought all the minority shares owned by TV-Tokyo, so AT&T-Cherning completely owns Crunchyroll as of now. 2. Crunchyroll is the reason for so many low quality anime - they buy the trash released by the anime companies (quantity over quality). part of the subscription fee is used to pay licenses for low quality shows 3. if many people stop paying Crunchyroll and start pirating, it will force Crunchyroll to offer a better service. 4. they should instead let us watch an anime series in all it's visual and audio glory for $1 / free tl;dr of the tl;dr: as one would expect, it's another video of a shameless pirate trying to justify not paying for anime and thinking they're doing good to the anime industry Well, at least they're smart enough to know that they aren't helping. ;) |
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velvetPhos said: Phendrus said: I have better things to do with my time than waste it on random YouTube nut #15823. ...Which suddenly makes me wonder why I've been on the internet arguing with crazy people for the past few hours. Everyone on MAL is crazy including you and me. Let’s celebrate our craziness!  To the wild and wacky future! May the world drown in zaniness and insanity forever! ...Wow. Searching for crazy Cthulhu mythos gifs took me places I'd rather not have gone. As a compromise, here's a gif of Nyaruko giggling creepily:  |
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Kittens-kun said: DreamingBeats said: the TL;DR: 1. Crunchyroll claimed to give a significant portion of the revenue back to the anime industry, but this was - according to the video - before they were bought by AT&T-Cherning. AT&T, in particular, is known for deceptive practices and were ordered to pay the government millions of dollars for false advertisement. note: although the video claims AT&T-Cherning owns 80%, they now bought all the minority shares owned by TV-Tokyo, so AT&T-Cherning completely owns Crunchyroll as of now. 2. Crunchyroll is the reason for so many low quality anime - they buy the trash released by the anime companies (quantity over quality). part of the subscription fee is used to pay licenses for low quality shows 3. if many people stop paying Crunchyroll and start pirating, it will force Crunchyroll to offer a better service. 4. they should instead let us watch an anime series in all it's visual and audio glory for $1 / free tl;dr of the tl;dr: as one would expect, it's another video of a shameless pirate trying to justify not paying for anime and thinking they're doing good to the anime industry Well, at least they're smart enough to know that they aren't helping. ;) still gve more money to japan industries than pirate tho... |
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The industry is still only getting worse though. |
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| No one in the industry is making bank off of my Phantom Quest Corp DVD and Gunsmith Cats VHS tapes already anyway. also, lol animetubers |
prove it... also, it's all because crunchy? really? |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Prove that it's getting better. Also, where did I say that it's because of CR? It's getting worse because Japanese companies pay their workers shit wages, while pocketing a lion's share of the profits. CR isn't making that worse, I'm just saying that they clearly aren't actually helping either. |
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