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Aug 27, 2017 2:56 AM
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alex thread make me realize this kind of thing pretty common.... what do you guys thing? add more hotness point? cringy? or hypocrite? or just simply some people fetish?

EDIT: i think some people misunderstood
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also "bitch" in here not in western sense (a bad bully woman) but more like "an agrresive" type that oftenly use in japan entertainment medium.... like oshiete gyaruko-chan heroine or that childhood friend in nyan koi!


the most obvious one is upcoming "My girlfriend is faithful virgin bitch" adaptation...

i think the closer words for it is "slut" rather than bitch in western sense, so i'll also edit the title...

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you mean garbage tsunderes
they are nothing more than abusive pieces of shit
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What do you guys think about a good written female character without the "bitch", "pure" label?
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you mean garbage tsunderes
they are nothing more abusive pieces of shit

not necesary tsundere, oftenly act offensive, in relationship, but when the real deal actually happened, she cornering back...

Johnnyd3rp said:
What do you guys think about a good written female character without the "bitch", "pure" label?


you didn't always need to take it literaly you know... also "bitch" in here not in western sense (a bad bully woman) but more like "an agrresive" type that oftenly use in japan entertainment medium.... like oshiete gyaruko-chan heroine or that childhood friend in nyan koi!
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What's with this pure threads all of a sudden? Were your hearts suddenly just got struck by one of those pure Japanese women?

Anyway, nah as long as she hits MC because she hides her feelings to him, it's all good~
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Kuma said:
tragedydesu said:
you mean garbage tsunderes
they are nothing more abusive pieces of shit

not necesary tsundere, oftenly act offensive, in relationship, but when the real deal actually happened, she cornering back...

i judge characters by their actions and the way they act
if she acts like a bitch then she is a bitch .... her hiding feelings dont mean anything to me
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tragedydesu said:
Kuma said:

not necesary tsundere, oftenly act offensive, in relationship, but when the real deal actually happened, she cornering back...

i judge characters by their actions and the way they act
if she acts like a bitch then she is a bitch .... her hiding feelings dont mean anything to me


i think i need to clear my meanings, again, not bitch in literal sense...

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also "bitch" in here not in western sense (a bad bully woman) but more like "an agrresive" type that oftenly use in japan entertainment medium.... like oshiete gyaruko-chan heroine or that childhood friend in nyan koi!
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Kuma said:
alex thread make me realize this kind of thing pretty common.... what do you guys thing? add more hotness point? cringy? or hypocrite? or just simply some people fetish?

EDIT: i think some people misunderstood
Kuma said:
also "bitch" in here not in western sense (a bad bully woman) but more like "an agrresive" type that oftenly use in japan entertainment medium.... like oshiete gyaruko-chan heroine or that childhood friend in nyan koi!


the most obvious one is upcoming "My girlfriend is faithful virgin bitch" adaptation...

@_Ako_



Ohhh you mean those kind of bitches... I think assertive heroine would probably be more befitting of a title. Or is it just me that I always think of bitch in a western sense.

Okay, I think of it as some sort of just another typical archetype. The series you mentioned in which I haven't see the anime adaptation nor the manga... Fetish might also be one, due to its aggressive heroine, in which viewers might find pleasure ( I certainly will).

Ohh well in the end, it does bring out some good qualities of a kawaii heroine in a very "aggressive" sense as you mentioned.

Also, I'm looking forward to the anime adaptation of My Girlfriend Is A Faithful Bitch
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Totally sentimental when the word Bitch often to describes how lowlife she can go for a walk between 4 legs down the sheets matter how "THIRSTY" her true intentions gone wild.




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You mean like Galko from Oshiete Galko-Chan. Yame from Hajimete no Gal or Megumi from Eromanga-Sense (she acts like a "fashion bitch")

I don't mind, its something new since I think older shows didn't have this type. I also find it funny where the "bitch" is placed in situations that she should (by appearance) know about. Reminds me of White Chicks when they taught the girls how to handle a D*ck.
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it's dumb but probably to just attract people to their hotness



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Perfect for teasing. That's what's great about delinquent girls.
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I think the problem with that is that it'll easily come off as very fake, and if you were attracted to the kind of inital sexual aggressiveness then seeing her become the opposite when you actually get close would be a bit of a disappointment. For romance stories I think it has decent potential to provide some fairly unusual depictions but in terms of hotness then not so much

The opposite scenario can be hot as fuck though. You know, a seemingly innocent girl turn out to be a total succubus on the inside. That's part of why I love lolidom
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It's realistic.
Teenagers, are idiots. They think that now that they're young adults, they're all, "cool" and stuff. The girls in my high school constantly show off their cleavage, bellies and legs, for attention.
But the reality is, they're just kids: many of them want to be "seductive" without knowing what seduction is, or actually wanting it.
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I think the problem with that is that it'll easily come off as very fake, and if you were attracted to the kind of inital sexual aggressiveness then seeing her become the opposite when you actually get close would be a bit of a disappointment. For romance stories I think it has decent potential to provide some fairly unusual depictions but in terms of hotness then not so much

The opposite scenario can be hot as fuck though. You know, a seemingly innocent girl turn out to be a total succubus on the inside. That's part of why I love lolidom


I'm a massive hardcore femdom hentai manga reader, and I disagree. The "seductive dominating girl" turning out to have an innocent side to her, where it's revealed she actually loves the guy, adds more layers and relatibility, making her much hotter.
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I liked the "pure slutty" Student Council president from Shimoneta while I hated the hypocrite Vice President from the same show...
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HaXXspetten said:
I think the problem with that is that it'll easily come off as very fake, and if you were attracted to the kind of inital sexual aggressiveness then seeing her become the opposite when you actually get close would be a bit of a disappointment. For romance stories I think it has decent potential to provide some fairly unusual depictions but in terms of hotness then not so much

The opposite scenario can be hot as fuck though. You know, a seemingly innocent girl turn out to be a total succubus on the inside. That's part of why I love lolidom


I'm a massive hardcore femdom hentai manga reader, and I disagree. The "seductive dominating girl" turning out to have an innocent side to her, where it's revealed she actually loves the guy, adds more layers and relatibility, making her much hotter.
Huh, well to me those "layers and relatibility" only makes it feel more romantic rather than lewd so it's not as hot that way for me. But it would work better for a romance story
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Johnnyd3rp said:
What do you guys think about a good written female character without the "bitch", "pure" label?


Shockingly, you can group characters under a generalized description/archetype because it is a generalized description. The fact that it's well-written or not does not come into the picture, capische?

Seven hells, this answer. Classic MAL.
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the most obvious one is upcoming "My girlfriend is faithful virgin bitch" adaptation...


I'm actually rather intrigued by the concept of that show, seen a little bit of the manga. Seems like a sex joke anime, which would be a nice thing to fill a certain void left by Seitokai Yakuindomo.

Though admittedly I've not read enough of the manga, so I don't know if the main character of Boku no Kanojo ga Majimesugiru Sho-bitch na Ken is the typical "I'm too scared to actually fuck" main character or a straight man character like Tsuda is in Seitokai Yakuindomo. I don't really intend to read a manga of an impending airing anime.


Kuma said:
i think the closer words for it is "slut" rather than bitch in western sense, so i'll also edit the title...


I don't think slut is exactly the term either. More of the aggressive horny type, but has a pure outlook of being in a relationship.
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Perfect for teasing. That's what's great about delinquent girls.

my nigga....

HaXXspetten said:
I think the problem with that is that it'll easily come off as very fake, and if you were attracted to the kind of inital sexual aggressiveness then seeing her become the opposite when you actually get close would be a bit of a disappointment. For romance stories I think it has decent potential to provide some fairly unusual depictions but in terms of hotness then not so much

The opposite scenario can be hot as fuck though. You know, a seemingly innocent girl turn out to be a total succubus on the inside. That's part of why I love lolidom

yeah, that's one of it's weakness... and oftenly abused for dragging plot...

but the later part pretty sure already common...
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BurningSpirit said:
Kuma said:
i think the closer words for it is "slut" rather than bitch in western sense, so i'll also edit the title...


I don't think slut is exactly the term either. More of the aggressive horny type, but has a pure outlook of being in a relationship.
Nympho maybe? Or maybe it's too unspecific regarding partners
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Why do I always see this user name @tragedydesu triggers over tsundere in every post.
Did tsundere kill your family or something?

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y'know, slut is kinda hot and people want their waifu to be a virgin.
So yea, i think that's the origin.

I don't actually mind it that much but it also didn't click well with me depend on execution, I guess. Or maybe depend on how you reveal that she's a virgin.
If it come off with the feeling like 'hey guy although she's a slut but don't worry she's a virgin, your waifu has not tainted yet' then, I feel the fake feeling in it but whatever, as long as she's slut and funny enough everything is justified.
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HaXXspetten said:
Nympho maybe? Or maybe it's too unspecific regarding partners


Nympho isn't exactly right either, doesn't include being pure at all. Probably closer than slut though, because most "sluts" aren't driven by sexual desire but by attention or material wealth.

We could use Akiho in Boku no Kanojo ga Majimesugiru Sho-bitch na Ken as an opportunity to coin the term "sho-bitch" or "faithful virgin bitch" to describe it XD
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BurningSpirit said:
Kuma said:
the most obvious one is upcoming "My girlfriend is faithful virgin bitch" adaptation...


I'm actually rather intrigued by the concept of that show, seen a little bit of the manga. Seems like a sex joke anime, which would be a nice thing to fill a certain void left by Seitokai Yakuindomo.

Though admittedly I've not read enough of the manga, so I don't know if the main character of Boku no Kanojo ga Majimesugiru Sho-bitch na Ken is the typical "I'm too scared to actually fuck" main character or a straight man character like Tsuda is in Seitokai Yakuindomo. I don't really intend to read a manga of an impending airing anime.

the heroine is the boke... but she is not actually scared to fuck, but she does pure... it's actualy both... from outside, she loooks pure, but when close, she is actually pervert, but when the male doing initiative (which usually misunderstood), she become pasive (not reject)... but yeah, it's pretty much like SYD but add ecchi...

BurningSpirit said:
HaXXspetten said:
Nympho maybe? Or maybe it's too unspecific regarding partners


Nympho isn't exactly right either, doesn't include being pure at all. Probably closer than slut though, because most "sluts" aren't driven by sexual desire but by attention or material wealth.

We could use Akiho in Boku no Kanojo ga Majimesugiru Sho-bitch na Ken as an opportunity to coin the term "sho-bitch" or "faithful virgin bitch" to describe it XD


now, that you mention it, most of them does doing it for gain attention to opposite sex (which mainly male MC)...

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Not hotness no but adorable ye
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It's my drug holy shit give to me



dude, beautiful...
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Kuma said:
the heroine is the boke... but she is not actually scared to fuck, but she does pure... it's actualy both... from outside, he loooks pure, but when close, she is actually pervert, but when the male doing initiative (which usually misunderstood), she become pasive (not reject)... but yeah, it's pretty much like SYD but add ecchi...


It's clear that the heroine would be the boke if the Haruka would be the tsukkomi. But I've not read much of the manga to know what kind of character Haruka is.

As far as I know, there doesn't seem to be as much characters in Boku no Kanojo ga Majimesugiru Sho-bitch na Ken compared to Seitokai Yakuindomo. It was the many characters that kept the character interactions dynamic, which was the main thing that kept Seitokai Yakuindomo interesting for 2 seasons + lots of OVAs + a movie. Sure Boku no Kanojo ga Majimesugiru Sho-bitch na Ken doesn't have as much chapters to adapt and at the moment it is a 1 season anime 1 cour, but if it's to be entertaining for a longer run time with possible sequels, it can't rely on running jokes from a small cast alone.
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What do you guys think about a title that is meaningful to the work in a non-clickbait way?
But to answer your question, it's because dumb readers want an unrealistic combination of both traits.
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BurningSpirit said:
Kuma said:
the heroine is the boke... but she is not actually scared to fuck, but she does pure... it's actualy both... from outside, he loooks pure, but when close, she is actually pervert, but when the male doing initiative (which usually misunderstood), she become pasive (not reject)... but yeah, it's pretty much like SYD but add ecchi...


It's clear that the heroine would be the boke if the Haruka would be the tsukkomi. But I've not read much of the manga to know what kind of character Haruka is.

As far as I know, there doesn't seem to be as much characters in Boku no Kanojo ga Majimesugiru Sho-bitch na Ken compared to Seitokai Yakuindomo. It was the many characters that kept the character interactions dynamic, which was the main thing that kept Seitokai Yakuindomo interesting for 2 seasons + lots of OVAs + a movie. Sure Boku no Kanojo ga Majimesugiru Sho-bitch na Ken doesn't have as much chapters to adapt and at the moment it is a 1 season anime 1 cour, but if it's to be entertaining for a longer run time with possible sequels, it can't rely on running jokes from a small cast alone.


the character does heavily expanded after second vol... yeah, i think author also get that...

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What do you guys think about a title that is meaningful to the work in a non-clickbait way?
can you give advice how should i change my title?
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When the story is heavily leaning towards comedy, then this characteristic attribute have a lot of potentials to make the interactions of the characters funny and enjoyable.

B Gata H Kei main heroine is what is on my mind for an example.

Are there even a series with those type of character in a drama-romance genre only?
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something we need more of in anime

like oshiete galko-"best girl of 2016"-chan
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Kuma said:
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It's clear that the heroine would be the boke if the Haruka would be the tsukkomi. But I've not read much of the manga to know what kind of character Haruka is.

As far as I know, there doesn't seem to be as much characters in Boku no Kanojo ga Majimesugiru Sho-bitch na Ken compared to Seitokai Yakuindomo. It was the many characters that kept the character interactions dynamic, which was the main thing that kept Seitokai Yakuindomo interesting for 2 seasons + lots of OVAs + a movie. Sure Boku no Kanojo ga Majimesugiru Sho-bitch na Ken doesn't have as much chapters to adapt and at the moment it is a 1 season anime 1 cour, but if it's to be entertaining for a longer run time with possible sequels, it can't rely on running jokes from a small cast alone.


the character does heavily expanded after second vol... yeah, i think author also get that...

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What do you guys think about a title that is meaningful to the work in a non-clickbait way?
can you give advice how should i change my title?

Not yours. The example manga you gave.
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When the story is heavily leaning towards comedy, then this characteristic attribute have a lot of potentials to make the interactions of the characters funny and enjoyable.

B Gata H Kei main heroine is what is on my mind for an example.

Are there even a series with those type of character in a drama-romance genre only?


oh yeah, forgot about that one...

maybe kimi no iru machi? (manga)

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the character does heavily expanded after second vol... yeah, i think author also get that...

can you give advice how should i change my title?

Not yours. The example manga you gave.


which one?
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Personally, I don't like bitchy characters....that shit is a HUGE turnoff.

So, it's rare for me to like tsunderes.

I know I said we need more "Slutty" characters, but I don't really like girls who are TOO slutty either.

lol....I'm very picky.
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Those types automatically improve any comedy, ecchi, harem combo anime

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I love myself a pure girl who is willing to become a female dog for her lover- oh wait that sounds weird umm... I like a girl who is pure but is still willing to be sexually open with her lover or the one she is in love with, that really amps things up a notch tbh

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What do you guys think about a good written female character without the "bitch", "pure" label?
I suppose this would be my answer to the question.
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Its actually pretty annoying to see innocent characters with over sexualised bodies/clothing, I sometimes (most of the time) cant tell if they're pure or not.
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What we need are girls who act and/or look pure on the outside but are really horny/thirsty on the inside.

Or a girl who is normal on most occasions but gets really slutty on bed (sex time).

A girl who likes romance and snuggles, but also fantasize about big dicks up her ass... Ok, things are getting awfully detailed here so I'm gonna stop XD.
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What we need are girls who act and/or look pure on the outside but are really horny/thirsty on the inside.

Or a girl who is normal on most occasions but gets really slutty on bed (sex time).

A girl who likes romance and snuggles, but also fantasize about big dicks up her ass... Ok, things are getting awfully detailed here so I'm gonna stop XD.
Literally every bitch in a Hentai is like that.
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What we need are girls who act and/or look pure on the outside but are really horny/thirsty on the inside.

Or a girl who is normal on most occasions but gets really slutty on bed (sex time).

A girl who likes romance and snuggles, but also fantasize about big dicks up her ass... Ok, things are getting awfully detailed here so I'm gonna stop XD.
Literally every bitch in a Hentai is like that.


In hentai they are, but I wouldn't mind some of those in anime as well.
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Johnnyd3rp said:
What do you guys think about a good written female character without the "bitch", "pure" label?


If only...

What is this "pure" thing anyways... In which way?
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Johnnyd3rp said:
What do you guys think about a good written female character without the "bitch", "pure" label?


If only...

What is this "pure" thing anyways... In which way?


1.Virgin.
2.Inexperienced in the deeper aspects of sex.
3.Not horny/thirsty.
4.Barely ever thinks about sex or looks at thing from a sexual perspective.
5.Get's strongly embarrassed at the though of sexual activities.
6.Never masturbates.
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HyperL said:
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If only...

What is this "pure" thing anyways... In which way?


1.Virgin.
2.Inexperienced in the deeper aspects of sex.
3.Not horny/thirsty.
4.Barely ever thinks about sex or looks at something from a sexual perspective.
5.Get's strongly embarrassed at the though of sexual activities.
6.Never masturbates.

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So basically no one. Thanks noted.
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sasalx said:
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1.Virgin.
2.Inexperienced in the deeper aspects of sex.
3.Not horny/thirsty.
4.Barely ever thinks about sex or looks at something from a sexual perspective.
5.Get's strongly embarrassed at the though of sexual activities.
6.Never masturbates.

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So basically no one. Thanks noted.


Well, that pure anime girls are a idealized creation designed to pleasure man in every way possible is a no brainer.
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sasalx said:
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What do you guys think about a good written female character without the "bitch", "pure" label?


If only...

What is this "pure" thing anyways... In which way?


I guess a girl who doesn't even know how a dick is shaped and she stays at home during when she has her period because she feels impure.

Basically no one.
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tragedydesu said:
you mean garbage tsunderes
they are nothing more than abusive pieces of shit

Lol whenever i see you comment about something , it is always related to tsunderes

My actual GF is like that, many people judged that she was just a "slut" but it was because of how she dresses. People just couldn't stop sexualize her , so in fact,it was their fault.
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What a funny dichotomy between 'purity' and 'dirtiness'. There is something sexy but appearing non-sexual, yet constantly hinting it. It points at mystery, which makes you curious and that's sexiness. Sexy girls are always, in a way, mysterious.
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Personally, I don't like bitchy characters....that shit is a HUGE turnoff.

So, it's rare for me to like tsunderes.

I know I said we need more "Slutty" characters, but I don't really like girls who are TOO slutty either.

lol....I'm very picky.


you hard to satisfy huh?

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What a funny dichotomy between 'purity' and 'dirtiness'. There is something sexy but appearing non-sexual, yet constantly hinting it. It points at mystery, which makes you curious and that's sexiness. Sexy girls are always, in a way, mysterious.


the contrast between it is what make it special...
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Aug 27, 2017 5:39 PM

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It's not unheard of irl, especially for younger women who are figuring out how to express their sexuality. I'd just like the anime to expand on why said character has this divide between how they look and how they act, otherwise it's just a weird gimmick.
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Aug 27, 2017 5:46 PM

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if you add psycho killer this is Mai Mashiro in a nutshell and she is one of my favourite characters so i'm alright with the concept.

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