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Aug 12, 2017 10:00 AM
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This episode more to building up for the next ep, damn I need to wait for 1 week again ;^;.......
Settie avoiding kensuke and everyone bcause he doesnt want them to get involved, aww he's precious...kousuke save him please<3
The mom food tho, their reaction when try to eat it lol really funny xD
Hmm animation still incosistent, well its encourage studio after all *cough*Senki Zesshou Symphogear*cough*, still good than nothing, at least the source story are good xD
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build up on this episode...but breaking the door was a little
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If there's one person everyone should hate and be terrified of: it's Yabase. Ffs. He's not even saying anything and yet skamidjdudhak! Someone lock him up for good. Jesus.

Kyaaa! That's right, Kousuke! Do something. Gaaah. When he broke into Setagawa's room, I lost it. Hihihihi! And then he pushed him into his bed, and THEN THEY GAVE US A FREAKING CLIFFHANGER. WE JUST WANTED A KISS -- A FRENCH KISS, AT LEAST. MY POOR HEART CAN'T HANDLE CLIFFHANGERS, MAAAN. Y U DO DAT TO MEH?

I need to chill. I freaking loved this episode. Hurry up, next episode. Gaaaaaah! ;-;

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Aug 12, 2017 11:51 AM
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JEZUS BOY. SAVE ME <3


Like, this was me during the entire episode:



Seriously, slow down the hotness for my heart can't take it.
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Aug 12, 2017 3:06 PM
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Poor Kensuke, being rejected like that. And man, the episode was justing getting good. Well, another long week of waiting again. :(
Aug 12, 2017 5:20 PM
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I could be wrong but I think Yamase might like Masahiro as a friend or crush.
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KannoSugako said:


JEZUS BOY. SAVE ME <3


Like, this was me during the entire episode:



Seriously, slow down the hotness for my heart can't take it.


Lmao it's nice to know I'm not the only one who reacted that way.





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Aug 12, 2017 7:36 PM
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The face that Kensuke makes after Setagawa rejects going to lunch with him was so random it made me laugh so hard, and the face after that is so neutral.

Man, for a build up episode a whole lot of nothing happened, mainly just the fact that we know why theres a ramen bowl full of toppings in the opening.
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Aug 13, 2017 3:21 AM
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Yamase is so pretty what the hell
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AniAmber said:
KannoSugako said:


JEZUS BOY. SAVE ME <3


Like, this was me during the entire episode:



Seriously, slow down the hotness for my heart can't take it.


Lmao it's nice to know I'm not the only one who reacted that way.



I KNOW RIGHTTTT??!?!?!?!?!?!? *heavy breathing intensifies*

Hahahsahs let's just brace ourselves for what's to come, for it can and will only get better *drools*
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Aug 13, 2017 11:57 AM

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Breaking the window was a bit too much seriously... couldn't he knock first on the door like a normal person?!
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I swear to god, if anyone tries to hurt this precious Cinnamon roll, there will be HELL to pay!
Aug 13, 2017 2:51 PM

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I'm getting the feeling that the scary dude either likes him so hates Kousuke or he just seriously hates Setagawa for some reason. He is scary. I wish the ending scene lasted longer. It was like only 2 seconds on the bed. I need more. Another looong week...
Aug 14, 2017 5:10 AM

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Hasekura has super high intuition with these kinds of things!
omg! he pushed him onto the bed! gosh!
Looks like we have a Yandere delinquent! I wonder if he is also NOT straight...
4/5.


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he broke his goddam glass door! what on earth... the BL people are batshit crazy! also.... what normal teacher would push down a student? i wish they'd just kiss and then like wait until Setagawa is 18....
see you, space cowperson . . .
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Idek why I'm still keeping up with this every week.
That ending was beyond ridiculous, oml.
Did he seriously just break into Setagawa's because he didn't answer? Dude, at least shout through the door or something first.
Then he just goes ahead and pins him to the bed.

DROPPED.
I'm not sure if this is as terribly executed as I think it is, or if I'm just too old for all this lmao
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Aug 14, 2017 8:27 PM

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Yep, build up this episode. Still nice we got to know Settie prob, he want to keep everyone he loves safe thats was sweet of him, our Cinnamon roll. That cliffhanger ED.
How the fk we need to wait again, the pain..


Strawberrycake48 said:
Idek why I'm still keeping up with this every week.
That ending was beyond ridiculous, oml.
Did he seriously just break into Setagawa's because he didn't answer? Dude, at least shout through the door or something first.
Then he just goes ahead and pins him to the bed.

DROPPED.
I'm not sure if this is as terribly executed as I think it is, or if I'm just too old for all this lmao
I think he's doing that because Settie 've been avoiding him, even at school Settie doesnt want to talk or ignoring Kousuke and Kensuke. Thats why even if he knock first or shout through the door, I bet Settie wont answer or open it for Kousuke, he's just want to stay away as far as he can from Kousuke, to keep him safe and away from his gang(he's doing that to protect Kousuke)and he's afraid to tell his prob to Kousuke because it will make Kousuke in danger if he try to beat the gang for Settie sake(at the beginning theres other gang who want to join to attack Kousuke). As for Kousuke he know Settie is the type who like to keep his own prob and something happened that make Settie avoiding him, plus the part when Hasekura tell him to go for it what he want, thats why he's in rush and doing that lmao he's been holding back for a long time.
As for the "pins to the bed" the next part that gonna be happened is not like what you think it is...
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Yep, build up this episode. Still nice we got to know Settie prob, he want to keep everyone he loves safe thats was sweet of him, our Cinnamon roll. That cliffhanger ED.
How the fk we need to wait again, the pain..


Strawberrycake48 said:
Idek why I'm still keeping up with this every week.
That ending was beyond ridiculous, oml.
Did he seriously just break into Setagawa's because he didn't answer? Dude, at least shout through the door or something first.
Then he just goes ahead and pins him to the bed.

DROPPED.
I'm not sure if this is as terribly executed as I think it is, or if I'm just too old for all this lmao
I think he's doing that because Settie 've been avoiding him, even at school Settie doesnt want to talk or ignoring Kousuke and Kensuke. Thats why even if he knock first or shout through the door, I bet Settie wont answer or open it for Kousuke, he's just want to stay away as far as he can from Kousuke, to keep him safe and away from his gang(he's doing that to protect Kousuke)and he's afraid to tell his prob to Kousuke because it will make Kousuke in danger if he try to beat the gang for Settie sake(at the beginning theres other gang who want to join to attack Kousuke). As for Kousuke he know Settie is the type who like to keep his own prob and something happened that make Settie avoiding him, plus the part when Hasekura tell him to go for it what he want, thats why he's in rush and doing that lmao he's been holding back for a long time.
As for the "pins to the bed" the next part that gonna be happened is not like what you think it is...


Let me guess, the gang that are after Kousuke are gonna turn up and interrupt?
The usual romance cliches...In fact, I'd be more likely to keep watching if we actually got some sort of ero scene lmao

No way that's happening though! XD
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Strawberrycake48 said:
Let me guess, the gang that are after Kousuke are gonna turn up and interrupt?


What on earth is there to guess? The gang literally said they were going to go pick him up at his apartment in this episode. Did you expect a piano to fall on them en route, or a plot hole to swallow them?
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tokinokanatae said:
Strawberrycake48 said:
Let me guess, the gang that are after Kousuke are gonna turn up and interrupt?


What on earth is there to guess? The gang literally said they were going to go pick him up at his apartment in this episode. Did you expect a piano to fall on them en route, or a plot hole to swallow them?


Well, that'd be a sure fire way to make the series significantly more interesting than it is at present.
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Strawberrycake48 said:
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Yep, build up this episode. Still nice we got to know Settie prob, he want to keep everyone he loves safe thats was sweet of him, our Cinnamon roll. That cliffhanger ED.
How the fk we need to wait again, the pain..


I think he's doing that because Settie 've been avoiding him, even at school Settie doesnt want to talk or ignoring Kousuke and Kensuke. Thats why even if he knock first or shout through the door, I bet Settie wont answer or open it for Kousuke, he's just want to stay away as far as he can from Kousuke, to keep him safe and away from his gang(he's doing that to protect Kousuke)and he's afraid to tell his prob to Kousuke because it will make Kousuke in danger if he try to beat the gang for Settie sake(at the beginning theres other gang who want to join to attack Kousuke). As for Kousuke he know Settie is the type who like to keep his own prob and something happened that make Settie avoiding him, plus the part when Hasekura tell him to go for it what he want, thats why he's in rush and doing that lmao he's been holding back for a long time.
As for the "pins to the bed" the next part that gonna be happened is not like what you think it is...


Let me guess, the gang that are after Kousuke are gonna turn up and interrupt?
The usual romance cliches...In fact, I'd be more likely to keep watching if we actually got some sort of ero scene lmao

No way that's happening though! XD
In this episode already stated that the gang will pick up Settie at his home, ofc they will interupt them, but Kousuke reason to go there is not for the love dovey or raping Settie....so ofc we wont get the "ero scene", Im glad we wont get the "ero scene" after "pin him to the bed" part or it will be the usual romance cliches (that cliche where the seme do the "forced kiss" to uke after pinned him to bed)lull,,
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Strawberrycake48 said:
Well, that'd be a sure fire way to make the series significantly more interesting than it is at present.


I think it's been plenty interesting, but I'll admit I'm not really here for sex or romance scenes, so...

Either way, I don't think skipping ten steps in their relationship would help. They're not even to the point where they can admit mutual attraction, never mind getting hot and heavy when Masahiro has a pretty good idea his former gang is looking for him when he didn't answer their summons.
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tokinokanatae said:
Strawberrycake48 said:
Well, that'd be a sure fire way to make the series significantly more interesting than it is at present.


I think it's been plenty interesting, but I'll admit I'm not really here for sex or romance scenes, so...

Either way, I don't think skipping ten steps in their relationship would help. They're not even to the point where they can admit mutual attraction, never mind getting hot and heavy when Masahiro has a pretty good idea his former gang is looking for him when he didn't answer their summons.


I'm just not keen on their relationship or the way it's written, I guess? Initially, I thought Ken and Hasekura's relationship was bad, but Kousuke and Settie's makes that one much more tolerable in retrospect.
All the melodrama feels forced to me and it's been done so many times in so many other series (albeit better).

Half the time it doesn't even feel like they have any real chemistry or a convincing romantic connection. And if a relationship is going to pull a story, then it needs to be well-written.

For me, this one really isn't...and it doesn't have any fan-service or smut to pull the dead weight either.

I wanted to enjoy this one too. Ah, well.😔
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Strawberrycake48 said:
tokinokanatae said:


I think it's been plenty interesting, but I'll admit I'm not really here for sex or romance scenes, so...

Either way, I don't think skipping ten steps in their relationship would help. They're not even to the point where they can admit mutual attraction, never mind getting hot and heavy when Masahiro has a pretty good idea his former gang is looking for him when he didn't answer their summons.


I'm just not keen on their relationship or the way it's written, I guess? Initially, I thought Ken and Hasekura's relationship was bad, but Kousuke and Settie's makes that one much more tolerable in retrospect.
All the melodrama feels forced to me and it's been done so many times in so many other series (albeit better).

Half the time it doesn't even feel like they have any real chemistry or a convincing romantic connection. And if a relationship is going to pull a story, then it needs to be well-written.

For me, this one really isn't...and it doesn't have any fan-service or smut to pull the dead weight either.

I wanted to enjoy this one too. Ah, well.😔
If you want believeable/convicing romance story isn't just bad to hope for fan-service or smut scene when their relationship still like this?Just like @tokinokanatae say, they're not even to the point where they can makeout moreover doing the smut/steamy things because settie still confused and doesnt want to admit his feeling...added forced fanservice/smut just make it more worse for me, thats so BL/sho-ai moves...where they make the uke "realise" their feeling using sexual atraction(where the seme kissing/jerk them off even raping them) is just ugh, thats so cliche and mediocre...:"/
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Strawberrycake48 said:

All the melodrama feels forced to me and it's been done so many times in so many other series (albeit better).

Half the time it doesn't even feel like they have any real chemistry or a convincing romantic connection. And if a relationship is going to pull a story, then it needs to be well-written.

For me, this one really isn't...and it doesn't have any fan-service or smut to pull the dead weight either.

I wanted to enjoy this one too. Ah, well.😔


I don't think I would use the word "melodrama" as a description for anything about Kousuke and Masahiro's relationship. Hasekura and Kensuke dipped into it at points with all the running off and "what does it all mean!?!?!?!?!?" but Masahiro and Kousuke's issues have been surprisingly subtle and grounded (maybe too subtle?)

Like, I actually can't think of many series in general--say nothing of BL--that have such good psychological insight into the way a neglected kid would handle these problems and concerns. I'd love to see a list of all these other amazing BL anime that have done the same things as this series with less melodrama and superior writing. Maybe I've been missing out.
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Kousuke can't even pick a fucking lock. Hero my arse.


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homonanoka said:
Yep, build up this episode. Still nice we got to know Settie prob, he want to keep everyone he loves safe thats was sweet of him, our Cinnamon roll. That cliffhanger ED.
How the fk we need to wait again, the pain..


Strawberrycake48 said:
Idek why I'm still keeping up with this every week.
That ending was beyond ridiculous, oml.
Did he seriously just break into Setagawa's because he didn't answer? Dude, at least shout through the door or something first.
Then he just goes ahead and pins him to the bed.

DROPPED.
I'm not sure if this is as terribly executed as I think it is, or if I'm just too old for all this lmao
I think he's doing that because Settie 've been avoiding him, even at school Settie doesnt want to talk or ignoring Kousuke and Kensuke. Thats why even if he knock first or shout through the door, I bet Settie wont answer or open it for Kousuke, he's just want to stay away as far as he can from Kousuke, to keep him safe and away from his gang(he's doing that to protect Kousuke)and he's afraid to tell his prob to Kousuke because it will make Kousuke in danger if he try to beat the gang for Settie sake(at the beginning theres other gang who want to join to attack Kousuke). As for Kousuke he know Settie is the type who like to keep his own prob and something happened that make Settie avoiding him, plus the part when Hasekura tell him to go for it what he want, thats why he's in rush and doing that lmao he's been holding back for a long time.
As for the "pins to the bed" the next part that gonna be happened is not like what you think it is...


Pretty sure, he knows he'll interrupt Settie's mother's "work" that's why he didn't call out

Pins him down? I don't understand why you're not happy with that? This all started bcoz this "hero" couldn't come out of the closet, now he's coming out. You should be happy
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Damn. This episode was terrible, in all honesty. I might be a singular thought here, but the idea of seeing Kousuke; a man in nearly his 30's going after a teenager makes me feel uncomfortable. Kousuke is pushing this unhealthy relationship on Settie. Not only was the flow of the episode confusing, the entirety of Kousuke's actions were strange. Breaking and entering, pinning him down? This could easily be sexual assault, but, hey! I've been uneasy with the relationship between the two since the beginning. I honestly expected more from a shounen-ai anime that looked promising. Might drop it if more of this pedophilia nonsense continues.
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Damn. This episode was terrible, in all honesty. I might be a singular thought here, but the idea of seeing Kousuke; a man in nearly his 30's going after a teenager makes me feel uncomfortable. Kousuke is pushing this unhealthy relationship on Settie. Not only was the flow of the episode confusing, the entirety of Kousuke's actions were strange. Breaking and entering, pinning him down? This could easily be sexual assault, but, hey! I've been uneasy with the relationship between the two since the beginning. I honestly expected more from a shounen-ai anime that looked promising. Might drop it if more of this pedophilia nonsense continues.
lol what do you expect from this anime?if you find it uncomfortable to see teacher going after his student, then you should drop it from the start, this story it's about teacher x student romance from the beggining...you should read the description.

Honestly i dont get ppl(I've seen few ppl) who watching this and still hoping theres no romance between kousuke and settie or dont want to watch teacher x student romance, when this show is about their romance...it's like you know your watching a show with ecchi/harem tag but you still complained about it for being too ecchi, "why this have soo many fanservice??" or you hate show with gore thing but you still watch and complain about it later for being gore lol
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livexevil said:
TheAwkward-Otaku said:
Damn. This episode was terrible, in all honesty. I might be a singular thought here, but the idea of seeing Kousuke; a man in nearly his 30's going after a teenager makes me feel uncomfortable. Kousuke is pushing this unhealthy relationship on Settie. Not only was the flow of the episode confusing, the entirety of Kousuke's actions were strange. Breaking and entering, pinning him down? This could easily be sexual assault, but, hey! I've been uneasy with the relationship between the two since the beginning. I honestly expected more from a shounen-ai anime that looked promising. Might drop it if more of this pedophilia nonsense continues.
lol what do you expect from this anime?if you find it uncomfortable to see teacher going after his student, then you should drop it from the start, this story it's about teacher x student romance from the beggining...you should read the description.
Honestly i dont get ppl(I've seen few ppl) who watching this and still hoping theres no romance between kousuke and settie or dont want to watch teacher x student romance, when this show is about their romance...it's like you know your watching a show with ecchi/harem tag but you still complained about it for being too ecchi, "why this have soo many fanservice??" or you hate show with gore thing but you still watch and complain about it later for being gore lol


I expected a shounen-ai with potential. I originally started watching Hitorijime for the romance between Hasekura and Kensuke, not for Kousuke and Settie. Honestly, the first 3 episodes looked promising (excluding all the moments between the other two), now, not as much. Most shounen-ai's follow similar tropes, the unhealthy relationship, a pedophilic relationship, etc. I was hoping this was different, therefore the reason I began to watch it.
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TheAwkward-Otaku said:
livexevil said:
lol what do you expect from this anime?if you find it uncomfortable to see teacher going after his student, then you should drop it from the start, this story it's about teacher x student romance from the beggining...you should read the description.
Honestly i dont get ppl(I've seen few ppl) who watching this and still hoping theres no romance between kousuke and settie or dont want to watch teacher x student romance, when this show is about their romance...it's like you know your watching a show with ecchi/harem tag but you still complained about it for being too ecchi, "why this have soo many fanservice??" or you hate show with gore thing but you still watch and complain about it later for being gore lol


I expected a shounen-ai with potential. I originally started watching Hitorijime for the romance between Hasekura and Kensuke, not for Kousuke and Settie. Honestly, the first 3 episodes looked promising (excluding all the moments between the other two), now, not as much. Most shounen-ai's follow similar tropes, the unhealthy relationship, a pedophilic relationship, etc. I was hoping this was different, therefore the reason I began to watch it.
Hitorijime my hero is about Kousuke x settie, they're the main couple...Hasekura x kensuke only the side pairing in my hero. If you want to focus only hasekura x kensuke pair, just like you say you start hitorijime my hero for them, then you can read "hitorijime boyfriend" ...theres no kousettie romance/teacher x student romance.. only hasekura x kensuke there and see if you find their relationship more healthy than kousettie....
And what do you expect from show that potraying teacher x student romance?did you expect no pedo? in teacher x student romance theres will be always have the age gap thing, so ofc they're not in the same age(at least settie design is more mature, they're not try to draw him like a fking shota/10yo-12yo). If the next ep you still find it uncomfortable, then this is not for you. Because from the next ep the romance between those two will be start to bloom.
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People thinking that this anime is cliche or follows typical tropes... At least we have a new BL anime xD

They are far and few between.
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TheAwkward-Otaku said:

I expected a shounen-ai with potential. I originally started watching Hitorijime for the romance between Hasekura and Kensuke, not for Kousuke and Settie. Honestly, the first 3 episodes looked promising (excluding all the moments between the other two), now, not as much. Most shounen-ai's follow similar tropes, the unhealthy relationship, a pedophilic relationship, etc. I was hoping this was different, therefore the reason I began to watch it.


Just so I understand clearly, your defense for watching SIX episodes of something you think is "pedophilic" in nature is because you are watching the show for the relationship that involves a minor sexually assaulting another minor?
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livexevil said:
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I expected a shounen-ai with potential. I originally started watching Hitorijime for the romance between Hasekura and Kensuke, not for Kousuke and Settie. Honestly, the first 3 episodes looked promising (excluding all the moments between the other two), now, not as much. Most shounen-ai's follow similar tropes, the unhealthy relationship, a pedophilic relationship, etc. I was hoping this was different, therefore the reason I began to watch it.
Hitorijime my hero is about Kousuke x settie, they're the main couple...Hasekura x kensuke only the side pairing in my hero. If you want to focus only hasekura x kensuke pair, just like you say you start hitorijime my hero for them, then you can read "hitorijime boyfriend" ...theres no kousettie romance/teacher x student romance.. only hasekura x kensuke there and see if you find their relationship more healthy than kousettie....
And what do you expect from show that potraying teacher x student romance?did you expect no pedo? in teacher x student romance theres will be always have the age gap thing, so ofc they're not in the same age(at least settie design is more mature, they're not try to draw him like a fking shota/10yo-12yo). If the next ep you still find it uncomfortable, then this is not for you. Because from the next ep the romance between those two will be start to bloom.

Please understand that I had no prior knowledge of Hitojime my Hero before the anime released. Despite the hinting of the first episode, I continued to watch it for the other couple, which I'm aware of what happened in the second episode, in regards to the manga. I simply found those two (Hasekura/Kensuke) to be more fitting for a relationship than the pedophilia; which I see is constantly getting praise although it's wrong. Settie is portrayed maturely, but that in no way changes the fact that he is a minor, and Kousuke is a fully-grown adult in his 30's. My idealogy isnt going to change, and like I've said before, this is a common trope that is followed in multiple animes. As you said, I might drop it. This was something I thought would appeal to me, but I'll see for myself.
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tokinokanatae said:
TheAwkward-Otaku said:

I expected a shounen-ai with potential. I originally started watching Hitorijime for the romance between Hasekura and Kensuke, not for Kousuke and Settie. Honestly, the first 3 episodes looked promising (excluding all the moments between the other two), now, not as much. Most shounen-ai's follow similar tropes, the unhealthy relationship, a pedophilic relationship, etc. I was hoping this was different, therefore the reason I began to watch it.


Just so I understand clearly, your defense for watching SIX episodes of something you think is "pedophilic" in nature is because you are watching the show for the relationship that involves a minor sexually assaulting another minor?

Well, to answer your question; yes it is pedophilia, in fact. Settie despite being characterized as a mature teenager, is still a minor. Kousuke is a fully-grown male in his 30's. Therefore, it is pedophilia. And from what it seems, not only you, both others are praising this for whatever reason. Secondly, I'm aware of what happened in the manga, as I read what happened for myself. Although, I do prefer a same-aged relationship in comparison of a relationship with quite an age gap. What happened in the manga was not portrayed in the anime, and seemingly, what DID happen in the anime, was definitely not as bad as the pedophilia that's being pushed here.
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Hitorijime my hero is about Kousuke x settie, they're the main couple...Hasekura x kensuke only the side pairing in my hero. If you want to focus only hasekura x kensuke pair, just like you say you start hitorijime my hero for them, then you can read "hitorijime boyfriend" ...theres no kousettie romance/teacher x student romance.. only hasekura x kensuke there and see if you find their relationship more healthy than kousettie....
And what do you expect from show that potraying teacher x student romance?did you expect no pedo? in teacher x student romance theres will be always have the age gap thing, so ofc they're not in the same age(at least settie design is more mature, they're not try to draw him like a fking shota/10yo-12yo). If the next ep you still find it uncomfortable, then this is not for you. Because from the next ep the romance between those two will be start to bloom.

Please understand that I had no prior knowledge of Hitojime my Hero before the anime released. Despite the hinting of the first episode, I continued to watch it for the other couple, which I'm aware of what happened in the second episode, in regards to the manga. I simply found those two (Hasekura/Kensuke) to be more fitting for a relationship than the pedophilia; which I see is constantly getting praise although it's wrong. Settie is portrayed maturely, but that in no way changes the fact that he is a minor, and Kousuke is a fully-grown adult in his 30's. My idealogy isnt going to change, and like I've said before, this is a common trope that is followed in multiple animes. As you said, I might drop it. This was something I thought would appeal to me, but I'll see for myself.
well, I found hasekura x kensuke more cringey despite they're the same age because of the rapey things..hasekura actually raped/forced himself on kensuke so many times in the manga even after they're dating its still have the rapey vibe because of hasekura personality..and I prefer the kousettie romance(despite the age gap and they're teacher & student) but kousuke never "raped" settie like hasekura does to kensuke. Even they're minor but 15yo/16yo already legal in japan tho, they can married. If you dont like romance with age gap you should drop it from ep 4, they're already hint it from the start and Kousuke is 27/28yo not 30.
You say already read the manga, and your bothered with the pedophilia but not bothered by the rape between minor......okay.


For fk sake if ppl hate/uncomfortable with the teacher x student things just drop it, it wont change their relationship even if you try to watch a few more episode and hoping theres no romance between those two, this show is always be about their romance. Expecting/hoping no romance in shounen ai show....like wat
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Please understand that I had no prior knowledge of Hitojime my Hero before the anime released. Despite the hinting of the first episode, I continued to watch it for the other couple, which I'm aware of what happened in the second episode, in regards to the manga. I simply found those two (Hasekura/Kensuke) to be more fitting for a relationship than the pedophilia; which I see is constantly getting praise although it's wrong. Settie is portrayed maturely, but that in no way changes the fact that he is a minor, and Kousuke is a fully-grown adult in his 30's. My idealogy isnt going to change, and like I've said before, this is a common trope that is followed in multiple animes. As you said, I might drop it. This was something I thought would appeal to me, but I'll see for myself.
well, I found hasekura x kensuke more cringey despite they're the same age because of the rapey things..hasekura actually raped/forced himself on kensuke so many times in the manga even after they're dating its still have the rapey vibe because of hasekura personality..and I prefer the kousettie romance(despite the age gap and they're teacher & student) but kousuke never "raped" settie like hasekura does to kensuke. Even they're minor but 15yo/16yo already legal in japan tho, they can married. If you dont like romance with age gap you should drop it from ep 4, they're already hint it from the start and Kousuke is 27/28yo not 30.
You say already read the manga, and your bothered with the pedophilia but not bothered by the rape between minor......okay.


For fk sake if ppl hate/uncomfortable with the teacher x student things just drop it, it wont change their relationship even if you try to watch a few more episode and hoping theres no romance between those two, this show is always be about their romance. Expecting/hoping no romance in shounen ai show....like wat

I actually do condemn this type of behavior with them, and I do understand it's strange, but to note, you said it was cringey for the relationship of Hasekura/Kensuke, noting that they were still minors, yet you say they're legal in Japan? I'm aware that shounen-ai has romance, I'm a fan of shounen-ai; but when it's done right. Here, not so much. I condemn pedophilia and rape, and I'm not saying it's okay for what Hasekura did, but yet; they're the same age. Did Kousuke not force himself to do things that Settie might not be fine with? Such as kissing, and breaking in entering his home? That's ludicrous. I don't expect anything to change with my ideology, but you, forcing others such as myself to accept it and move on is ridiculous. Almost saying I can't give my own opinion, and having to submit to the populous idea. In my opinion, on another note, Hasekura gives off more of a dominent and posessive vibe, more than anything else. But that's just me. (Also it's you're, not your. c;)
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well, I found hasekura x kensuke more cringey despite they're the same age because of the rapey things..hasekura actually raped/forced himself on kensuke so many times in the manga even after they're dating its still have the rapey vibe because of hasekura personality..and I prefer the kousettie romance(despite the age gap and they're teacher & student) but kousuke never "raped" settie like hasekura does to kensuke. Even they're minor but 15yo/16yo already legal in japan tho, they can married. If you dont like romance with age gap you should drop it from ep 4, they're already hint it from the start and Kousuke is 27/28yo not 30.
You say already read the manga, and your bothered with the pedophilia but not bothered by the rape between minor......okay.


For fk sake if ppl hate/uncomfortable with the teacher x student things just drop it, it wont change their relationship even if you try to watch a few more episode and hoping theres no romance between those two, this show is always be about their romance. Expecting/hoping no romance in shounen ai show....like wat

I actually do condemn this type of behavior with them, and I do understand it's strange, but to note, you said it was cringey for the relationship of Hasekura/Kensuke, noting that they were still minors, yet you say they're legal in Japan? I'm aware that shounen-ai has romance, I'm a fan of shounen-ai; but when it's done right. Here, not so much. I condemn pedophilia and rape, and I'm not saying it's okay for what Hasekura did, but yet; they're the same age. Did Kousuke not force himself to do things that Settie might not be fine with? Such as kissing, and breaking in entering his home? That's ludicrous. I don't expect anything to change with my ideology, but you, forcing others such as myself to accept it and move on is ridiculous. Almost saying I can't give my own opinion, and having to submit to the populous idea. In my opinion, on another note, Hasekura gives off more of a dominent and posessive vibe, more than anything else. But that's just me. (Also it's you're, not your. c;)
"but yet" is like you still saying rape is okay and tolareable as long they're the same age....when kousuke kissing settie did it forcefull like hasekura does?(even kensuke bited him and force him away but settie not doing anything) and for breaking his house did you even try to know their situation?why he do that? It's not like he doing that to pinned him to bed and sexually attack him lol.
Ah with hasekura forced himself kissing kensuke 3x times, jerk him off, suck him off, try to do sex even when kensuke says "NO" all the time, thats okay for you and you thought with that kind of action is give hasekura a dominant and posesive vibe?? So thats okay?

And I'm not forcing you to accept it, just like you im stated my opinion about it too, only saying if you hate this kind of relationship why must torture urself to continue to watch it, if you bothered just drop it. It's already clear where this relationship will be headed to.
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I actually do condemn this type of behavior with them, and I do understand it's strange, but to note, you said it was cringey for the relationship of Hasekura/Kensuke, noting that they were still minors, yet you say they're legal in Japan? I'm aware that shounen-ai has romance, I'm a fan of shounen-ai; but when it's done right. Here, not so much. I condemn pedophilia and rape, and I'm not saying it's okay for what Hasekura did, but yet; they're the same age. Did Kousuke not force himself to do things that Settie might not be fine with? Such as kissing, and breaking in entering his home? That's ludicrous. I don't expect anything to change with my ideology, but you, forcing others such as myself to accept it and move on is ridiculous. Almost saying I can't give my own opinion, and having to submit to the populous idea. In my opinion, on another note, Hasekura gives off more of a dominent and posessive vibe, more than anything else. But that's just me. (Also it's you're, not your. c;)
"but yet" is like you still saying rape is okay and tolareable as long they're the same age....when kousuke kissing settie did it forcefull like hasekura does?(even kensuke bited him and force him away but settie not doing anything) and for breaking his house did you even try to know their situation?why he do that? It's not like he doing that to pinned him to bed and sexually attack him lol.
Ah with hasekura forced himself kissing kensuke 3x times, jerk him off, suck him off, try to do sex even when kensuke says "NO" all the time, thats okay for you and you thought with that kind of action is give hasekura a dominant and posesive vibe?? So thats okay?

And I'm not forcing you to accept it, just like you im stated my opinion about it too, only saying if you hate this kind of relationship why must torture urself to continue to watch it, if you bothered just drop it. It's already clear where this relationship will be headed to.

Once again, I said I condemned the behavior that Hasekura was taking. Rape in any way isn't okay, and I'm aware of that. Despite, it seems as if you're okay with this pedophilia, hm? Both rape, and pedophilia, I condemn. And with Hasekura's possessive characteristic, I've seen with multiple characters done correctly. Also, the only reason I got that vibe was from his jealousy towards the relationship of Kesuke/Settie, not for any of the other things he's previously done.
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"but yet" is like you still saying rape is okay and tolareable as long they're the same age....when kousuke kissing settie did it forcefull like hasekura does?(even kensuke bited him and force him away but settie not doing anything) and for breaking his house did you even try to know their situation?why he do that? It's not like he doing that to pinned him to bed and sexually attack him lol.
Ah with hasekura forced himself kissing kensuke 3x times, jerk him off, suck him off, try to do sex even when kensuke says "NO" all the time, thats okay for you and you thought with that kind of action is give hasekura a dominant and posesive vibe?? So thats okay?

And I'm not forcing you to accept it, just like you im stated my opinion about it too, only saying if you hate this kind of relationship why must torture urself to continue to watch it, if you bothered just drop it. It's already clear where this relationship will be headed to.

Once again, I said I condemned the behavior that Hasekura was taking. Rape in any way isn't okay, and I'm aware of that. Despite, it seems as if you're okay with this pedophilia, hm? Both rape, and pedophilia, I condemn. And with Hasekura's possessive characteristic, I've seen with multiple characters done correctly. Also, the only reason I got that vibe was from his jealousy towards the relationship of Kesuke/Settie, not for any of the other things he's previously done.
so you asking my opinion right? im okay with the age gap as long its not bellow the age consent(13) and 15/16yo at japan is already legal so why tf not? It's not western, they're in japan. They're legal and past the age of consent so it's not pedo to me. I'm not okay with rape or incest things.
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Once again, I said I condemned the behavior that Hasekura was taking. Rape in any way isn't okay, and I'm aware of that. Despite, it seems as if you're okay with this pedophilia, hm? Both rape, and pedophilia, I condemn. And with Hasekura's possessive characteristic, I've seen with multiple characters done correctly. Also, the only reason I got that vibe was from his jealousy towards the relationship of Kesuke/Settie, not for any of the other things he's previously done.
so you asking my opinion right? im okay with the age gap as long its not bellow the age consent(13) and 15/16yo at japan is already legal so why tf not? It's not western, they're in japan. They're legal and past the age of consent so it's not pedo to me. I'm not okay with rape or incest things.

God, just because it's legal in Japan, you're okay with it? There's a 13 year age difference. In my opinion, that's just terrible.
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Well, to answer your question; yes it is pedophilia, in fact. Settie despite being characterized as a mature teenager, is still a minor. Kousuke is a fully-grown male in his 30's. Therefore, it is pedophilia. And from what it seems, not only you, both others are praising this for whatever reason. Secondly, I'm aware of what happened in the manga, as I read what happened for myself. Although, I do prefer a same-aged relationship in comparison of a relationship with quite an age gap. What happened in the manga was not portrayed in the anime, and seemingly, what DID happen in the anime, was definitely not as bad as the pedophilia that's being pushed here.


Do you always feel it necessary to watch more than TWO HOURS of pedophilia before you get upset about it?

If I found out something I was watching met my definition of pedophilia (aka, the medical definition) I would turn it off the second I understood what it was, not continue watching it.
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so you asking my opinion right? im okay with the age gap as long its not bellow the age consent(13) and 15/16yo at japan is already legal so why tf not? It's not western, they're in japan. They're legal and past the age of consent so it's not pedo to me. I'm not okay with rape or incest things.

God, just because it's legal in Japan, you're okay with it? There's a 13 year age difference. In my opinion, that's just terrible.
God, just because it's not fit in western culture your not okay with it? As asian I don't find it bothering at all, whats the matter with only 12 yo age gap different?? as long they're in past of age consent why not?? They can choose what they want, if the law says their age are legal then its already legal you can't change it unless you move on other country, and he choose his own life to dating older man, the point is he's in legal age to do what he want, past of age consent so not pedo, they both love each other, so what's the prob?
When I've goes to japan 3 years ago to study, and I've friends there that her parent have 9yo age gap difference between her mom and dad. Her mom pregnant her at 16 when her dad is 25, they got married after that and life like a normal person as one happy family. Theres nothing wrong with them. Why tf you make age gap sound like terrible things. When in real life its not becoming a problem if they love each other.
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Well, to answer your question; yes it is pedophilia, in fact. Settie despite being characterized as a mature teenager, is still a minor. Kousuke is a fully-grown male in his 30's. Therefore, it is pedophilia. And from what it seems, not only you, both others are praising this for whatever reason. Secondly, I'm aware of what happened in the manga, as I read what happened for myself. Although, I do prefer a same-aged relationship in comparison of a relationship with quite an age gap. What happened in the manga was not portrayed in the anime, and seemingly, what DID happen in the anime, was definitely not as bad as the pedophilia that's being pushed here.


Do you always feel it necessary to watch more than TWO HOURS of pedophilia before you get upset about it?

If I found out something I was watching met my definition of pedophilia (aka, the medical definition) I would turn it off the second I understood what it was, not continue watching it.

Oh, no, hun. I've been bothered by it since the beginning. I stopped watching Super Lovers after the first episode, same with Junjou Romantica, and other yaoi/shounen-ai I didn't enjoy. The difference with this one was that, even slightly, I liked the first 3 episodes, I continued to see what might occur.
Ahh, I didn't expect people to get upset over my singular comment, but, hey! It's always fun to debate. c;
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God, just because it's legal in Japan, you're okay with it? There's a 13 year age difference. In my opinion, that's just terrible.
God, just because it's not fit in western culture your not okay with it? As asian I don't find it bothering at all, whats the matter with only 12 yo age gap different?? as long they're in past of age consent why not?? They can choose what they want, if the law says their age are legal then its already legal you can't change it unless you move on other country, and he choose his own life to dating older man, the point is he's in legal age to do what he want, past of age consent so not pedo, they both love each other, so what's the prob?
When I've goes to japan 3 years ago to study, and I've friends there that her parent have 9yo age gap difference between her mom and dad. Her mom pregnant her at 16 when his dad is 25, they got married after that and life like a normal person as one happy family. Theres nothing wrong with them. Why tf you make age gap sound like terrible things. When in real life its not becoming a problem if they love each other.


Ooh, my apologies for being raised in a Western country where the age of consent is at 18, and I find it uncomfortable to see a teacher and a student in a relationship. Well, sorry, but I won't change my opinion regarding the pedophilia.
I must give credit where it's due, though. You've been a rather reasonable person to debate with.
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God, just because it's not fit in western culture your not okay with it? As asian I don't find it bothering at all, whats the matter with only 12 yo age gap different?? as long they're in past of age consent why not?? They can choose what they want, if the law says their age are legal then its already legal you can't change it unless you move on other country, and he choose his own life to dating older man, the point is he's in legal age to do what he want, past of age consent so not pedo, they both love each other, so what's the prob?
When I've goes to japan 3 years ago to study, and I've friends there that her parent have 9yo age gap difference between her mom and dad. Her mom pregnant her at 16 when his dad is 25, they got married after that and life like a normal person as one happy family. Theres nothing wrong with them. Why tf you make age gap sound like terrible things. When in real life its not becoming a problem if they love each other.


Ooh, my apologies for being raised in a Western country where the age of consent is at 18, and I find it uncomfortable to see a teacher and a student in a relationship. Well, sorry, but I won't change my opinion regarding the pedophilia.
I must give credit where it's due, though. You've been a rather reasonable person to debate with.
well, mindset vs mindset won't ever finished. If its in japan(age of consent is 13) its not pedo, even in my country china they're past age of consent(14), so not pedo. So idk why you force ur own country age of consent when watching this. But its ur opinion, I wont bother with it again. Yeah you too and sorry if one of my post sound a bit rude.
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Ooh, my apologies for being raised in a Western country where the age of consent is at 18, and I find it uncomfortable to see a teacher and a student in a relationship. Well, sorry, but I won't change my opinion regarding the pedophilia.
I must give credit where it's due, though. You've been a rather reasonable person to debate with.
well, mindset vs mindset won't ever finished. If its in japan(age of consent is 13) its not pedo, even in my country china they're past age of consent(14), so not pedo. So idk why you force ur own country age of consent when watching this. But its ur opinion, I wont bother with it again. Yeah you too and sorry if one of my post sound a bit rude.

I'm not trying to push my own customs on this, I simply find it strange. But, we're different, so I understand. My apologies as well.
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well, mindset vs mindset won't ever finished. If its in japan(age of consent is 13) its not pedo, even in my country china they're past age of consent(14), so not pedo. So idk why you force ur own country age of consent when watching this. But its ur opinion, I wont bother with it again. Yeah you too and sorry if one of my post sound a bit rude.

I'm not trying to push my own customs on this, I simply find it strange. But, we're different, so I understand. My apologies as well.


I'm in Germany. Age of consent here is 14 (in case you were thinking that only Asian countries have lower ages of consent). People, please learn that USA is not the only country on this planet. We find strange that you allow drinking at 21, but allow driving at 16. Sorry, but driving requires much more responsibility than drinking a beer (which is sold in Germany next to Coca Cola btw). But we don't start heated debates saying how wrong and sick this is. Chill out and learn to respect the differences between the cultures. "Your way" is not the only "right way". You say you're not trying to push your own customs on this, but this is exactly what you're doing, by calling this "pedo". You throw a generalized insult towards a lot of normal and healthy relationships, just because it doesn't conform to YOUR standards. Please be more mindful about the people around you.
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I'm not trying to push my own customs on this, I simply find it strange. But, we're different, so I understand. My apologies as well.


I'm in Germany. Age of consent here is 14 (in case you were thinking that only Asian countries have lower ages of consent). People, please learn that USA is not the only country on this planet. We find strange that you allow drinking at 21, but allow driving at 16. Sorry, but driving requires much more responsibility than drinking a beer (which is sold in Germany next to Coca Cola btw). But we don't start heated debates saying how wrong and sick this is. Chill out and learn to respect the differences between the cultures. "Your way" is not the only "right way". You say you're not trying to push your own customs on this, but this is exactly what you're doing, by calling this "pedo". You throw a generalized insult towards a lot of normal and healthy relationships, just because it doesn't conform to YOUR standards. Please be more mindful about the people around you.

I'm aware of different countries and their customs, but as you can have your own individual opinions, I can have my own. I too believe it's a bit odd to learn how to drive at 15, given lots of teenagers are quite immature. Also, I never started a heated debate, only the people, given yourself, are starting arguments. I simply posted my opinion, as anyone else is. But given I have the minority idea, I get attacked. Lol. If I'm not comfortable with it, whatever. Don't pay attention to me and go on with life. And it isn't my standards, anyways, and if you would've read my last response, you would've seen that I understood our differences and I apologized for any rude statements. But, hey, that doesn't matter to you, right? :)
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I'm in Germany. Age of consent here is 14 (in case you were thinking that only Asian countries have lower ages of consent). People, please learn that USA is not the only country on this planet. We find strange that you allow drinking at 21, but allow driving at 16. Sorry, but driving requires much more responsibility than drinking a beer (which is sold in Germany next to Coca Cola btw). But we don't start heated debates saying how wrong and sick this is. Chill out and learn to respect the differences between the cultures. "Your way" is not the only "right way". You say you're not trying to push your own customs on this, but this is exactly what you're doing, by calling this "pedo". You throw a generalized insult towards a lot of normal and healthy relationships, just because it doesn't conform to YOUR standards. Please be more mindful about the people around you.

I'm aware of different countries and their customs, but as you can have your own individual opinions, I can have my own. I too believe it's a bit odd to learn how to drive at 15, given lots of teenagers are quite immature. Also, I never started a heated debate, only the people, given yourself, are starting arguments. I simply posted my opinion, as anyone else is. But given I have the minority idea, I get attacked. Lol. If I'm not comfortable with it, whatever. Don't pay attention to me and go on with life. And it isn't my standards, anyways, and if you would've read my last response, you would've seen that I understood our differences and I apologized for any rude statements. But, hey, that doesn't matter to you, right? :)


So... basically I just read an entire page of someone shitting on a lot of relationships, including in my family (8 years age-gap and 15 years age-gap and reversed age-gap, where the wife is older than the husband), and I can't post an opinion about it? And you don't call that heated? "Kousuke is pushing this unhealthy relationship on Settie // the unhealthy relationship, a pedophilic relationship // I simply found those two (Hasekura/Kensuke) to be more fitting for a relationship than the pedophilia // Settie is portrayed maturely, but that in no way changes the fact that he is a minor // I condemn pedophilia and rape, and I'm not saying it's okay for what Hasekura did, but yet; they're the same age // God, just because it's legal in Japan, you're okay with it? // I won't change my opinion regarding the pedophilia." Your very condemning words, not mine. All of that was insulting. And I just wanted to point that out. If you post something on a forum, you can expect someone to comment on it even a year or five after that. And what I wrote, as my first post in this, it's not even just opinion. It's facts. Fact: USA is not the only country on this planet. Fact: different countries have different ages of consent. Fact: In a lot of places, age of consent is even lower than what we see in this anime. It's not opinion. It's facts.

Apologies accepted, for writing rude statements in every single post on this forum. Better?

What actually boggles me in this discussion, is that more people focus on the age gap, and the fact that Settie is a minor in a different country than his own, than on the fact that Kousuke is a teacher. That could mean influence. That could mean abuse of power. Though I'm pretty sure this is not the case here, as they've been shown to be friends before he became a teacher. I really hope we get more backstory.
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