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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Felt bad for Hanabi this episode....like seriously, she is going through some really rough times now. The personal demons she's facing in her mind is also starting to grow. Quite an intense episode. I think this might of been the most fragile I've seen from Hanabi yet. The expression of her shows a much vulnerable side and at this time, I guess Mugi is one of the very few people she can trust in. |
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| Seems Hanabi is starting to hang around the wrong type of people or better said that guy is up to no good and she realises it. But Mugi showed a darker side as well, things are getting hectic. Echan also seems to have an agenda but her target is clear. |
| Feel bad, because of reading of manga before watching an anime. Hate Mugi's and Hanabi's change. Hated that in manga either. Of course I know what happens next, but still characters are shown in "bad light". On the other hand, this thing makes them to seem alive. Score:8/10 My score: JOIN THE DARK SIDE. |
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| I still don't get why people like Ecchan. Sure, you may relate to her but do you relate to her being creepy and her actions so far? If she was a guy then people would already calling sexual harassment and rape but because she's a girl, it's more forgiving. Like, fucking geeze. She's creepy as hell and this is a friend of hers we're talking about. I never liked her in the manga or in the anime. She was always portrayed as a creepy lesbian and was forceful to me. |
FlamingMangosFeb 16, 2017 11:16 AM
FlamingMangos said: I still don't get why people like Ecchan. Sure, you may relate to her but do you relate to her being creepy and her actions so far? If she was a guy then people would already calling sexual harassment and rape but because she's a girl, it's more forgiving. Like, fucking geeze. She's creepy as hell and this is a friend of hers we're talking about. I never liked her in the manga or in the anime. She was always portrayed as a creepy lesbian and was forceful to me. How do you relate to the rest of the characters? And by that I mean Mugi/Hanabi really. But does that make Ecchan's not rape scene before more clear? And yes, yuri gets by solely by being yuri. Do you really need justification or context for chicks banging? |
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c1K said: Same here....And I agree with you 100%Feel bad, because of reading of manga before watching an anime. Hate Mugi's and Hanabi's change. Hated that in manga either. Of course I know what happens next, but still characters are shown in "bad light". On the other hand, this thing makes them to seem alive. Score:8/10 My score: JOIN THE DARK SIDE. |
MitoHu said: the whole Manga will be adapted, the Manga ends in 2 Months and theyre burning one 12th of it per episode. Daaamnn. I've already checked that, and that's true. There's no way, it can be nice and natural ending after being only 45 chapters long, don't you think so?... I just can't believe it... |
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T3hSource said: But does that make Ecchan's not rape scene before more clear? And yes, yuri gets by solely by being yuri. Do you really need justification or context for chicks banging? You're better off watching/reading yuri hentai if all you cared about is yuri action. It would be much better for you. MitoHu said: After 6 Episodes you still think there will be an happy end for all Characters? Yes, easily. They just have to move on and change and that's all it takes for a happy end. The sunlight always come out after a storm. |
FlamingMangosFeb 16, 2017 1:24 PM
MitoHu said: After 6 Episodes you still think there will be an happy end for all Characters? No, but I believed that it would be a happy-end style here. Anyway, after got knowing, that there will be only 2 more manga chapters, and seing how it's been ended(I mean 45 ch.), I'm pretty sure that the ending of whole manga and anime series will be kinda "hurried", unlogical and unnatural. |
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anachronic said: Every time I watch an episode of this series I get depressed. I keep wondering if that's healthy. Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but come on man, I feel like crying everytime an episode ends... I feel the same. Sometimes I think that the author does all bad things to characters deliberately. |
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MitoHu said: FlamingMangos said: Yes, easily. They just move on and change and that's all it takes for a happy end. The sunlight always come out after a storm. Psst. Don't spoil the Kids. What am I spoiling? I'm just saying that's all it takes for a happy ending. |
| I am starting to consider dropping this. I had so much promise but it keeps fucking up hard. It is way to over the top for a decent drama. The characterisation is a fkin trainwreck. But at least the virgins get some yuri screentime. Fuck this season. And i really had hopes for this one. |
"Es irrt der Mensch, solang er strebt." - Faust I, Vers 317 |
Aeonenleben said: I am starting to consider dropping this. I had so much promise but it keeps fucking up hard. It is way to over the top for a decent drama. The characterisation is a fkin trainwreck. But at least the virgins get some yuri screentime. Fuck this season. And i really had hopes for this one. I don't understand your problem with the show. What do you want it to be? You just think it's too over the top? |
| I feel really sorry for Moka. That part was the most impactful for me. Ecchan honestly can fuck off for all i care, she went too far IMO. Hanabi getting lost and realising that what she is doing is more pathetic than what Akane does. Direction on point again. |
FlamingMangos said: Aeonenleben said: I am starting to consider dropping this. I had so much promise but it keeps fucking up hard. It is way to over the top for a decent drama. The characterisation is a fkin trainwreck. But at least the virgins get some yuri screentime. Fuck this season. And i really had hopes for this one. I don't understand your problem with the show. What do you want it to be? You just think it's too over the top? I really liked the quite subtle approach the show had at the start. I thought it would be a romance drama about those two, and only them. To introduce a loli and a lesbian, wich seems to be purely choice by fetish, was a big mistake. This show only has 12 episodes, so we are halfway through already. Both, loli and lesbo are shallow as hell as well. They are just using up screentime without doing much for the show. They also butchered Hanabis characterisation to this point to somehow fit in the yuri-scenes. Since this pathetic escuse of a yuri-route took up a lot of screentime Mugis charakter became pretty dull and passiv through about 3 episodes now. And what they are doing now is filling it with tons of monologue and pseudo-psychology that is getting nowhere. |
"Es irrt der Mensch, solang er strebt." - Faust I, Vers 317 |
Aeonenleben said: That's hilarious. If you mean that it started on a more humble note than now, sure. Subtle? Watch it again. The monologues were a staple from the first minute.I really liked the quite subtle approach the show had at the start. FlamingMangos said: T3hSource said: But does that make Ecchan's not rape scene before more clear? And yes, yuri gets by solely by being yuri. Do you really need justification or context for chicks banging? You're better off watching/reading yuri hentai if all you cared about is yuri action. It would be much better for you. I did this morning. Felt like Kuzu really, so it's just natural for me to look for yuri in a softporn soap opera with a lesbian character. |
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| Holy crap. What despicable characters. I'm not shipping anyone with anyone anymore because no one deserves anyone. It's still a great show, though. 5/5 |
remiska said: are we watching same show? even moca who has not much developmant was deeper then most characters in romances after the episode she apeared in, "every women is bi" its actualy preaty true according to research, hanabi and mugi dont love each other (they themselves dont know what they feel) so they dont spend so much time with each other and thats why we have other characters. "Pseudo-psychology" are you psychologist and can you confirm this is so far from true human nature? than im prodably not a human coz my mind is even more twisted Yeah, of course your mind is even more twisted. Buhu. I guess you are a 2nd Light Yagami. You are the posterboy definition of an edgy child. Kono Subarashi 9/10 ahahaha No, every women is bi is BS. And yes i know because i check and research studies for a living. The study is flawed as fuck. And certainly not decently peer reviewed. Please don't belive everything just because "a study said so". It's very honorable of you that you try to defend the obviously forced yuri-fanservice but that really isn't how it works in RL. @T3hSource If you don't get it just ignore it. |
"Es irrt der Mensch, solang er strebt." - Faust I, Vers 317 |
| Not good, she's dabbling with the dark side. If this continues she'll turn into Darth Kuzu |
| OMG ecchan is such a B---h.... Hanabi tried to stop it but she goes on anyway and try to turn her in to the other b---h And honestly Hanabi shouldn't feel sorry for "using" her anyways. She forced herself on Hanabi for one. 2nd, Hanabi didn't even feel happy or good. Her face was a face of being harassed and not enjoyment. Hanabi is the on being used and abused by Mugi, Ecchan and practically everyone in the damn series. Then she goes to apologize and try to stop "using" ecchan. Goddamn, turning the victim in to the 'criminal' here And apparently Mocca is tolerating that a-$(mugi) too who only care for himself at this point. Seriously? He is willingly going out with Hanabi because it is interesting? I mean ofc he's fine with that he like that teacher b---h so ofc he would want his replacement to act like a b---h too. I feel bad for Hanabi and Mocca. I expect to hate Mocca eventually too seeing how things are going. Probably going to stay by Hanabi's side for a while though. But this episode was overall fairly weak. The motives for some of this is pretty random. Still enjoyable, but a little disappointed. Originally I thought it would be just Mugi and Hanabi gradually developing feelings despite initially being fake couple. So I shipped them, but nope... Half the main cast are scums so far; fitting title I guess. Probably more scumbags to come. Hanabi at this point should move on, get the hell away from Ecchan, Mugi, Ms. Bi--h and all. Preserve the personality(that I love) you originally have before getting butchered by the drama. TBH I don't like where they are going with on Hanabi's development. I liked her original perceptive and hence fairly judgmental attitude towards most people. I liked her for that, not up for 'vain' things. this episode displayed that with the man-ho that hung around ms.b---h But feels like she is going to hide that and be another ms.b---h. Which is a no for me. I get why we would start to hate everyone as manga readers warned. Still all for the Hanabi life doe.Overall the series is a bit(understatement) overly dramatic and this is causing some problems within the plot... Overall I really like this series, still one of the best anime this season IMO(despite increasingly more flaws) but yet I hate the characters(so far half of them at least) I think this series is turning me in to a masochist. |
zcv45Feb 16, 2017 2:56 PM
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| The most impressive thing about this anime is despite knowing how fucked up all the characters are, it still manages to consistently one-up itself in that department with each new episode The directing is simply magnificent really |
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| No Mugi, dont bring Moca into this mess of degeneracy ;_; |
| lol, Ecchan is the one using Hanabi for her own fucking selfish reasons. This show... It makes me feel disgusted and fed up with the characters, but it's one of a kind. Unique, I reckon. |
| I'm not sure what to think about this episode... I mean I supported Hanabi before and I think she has some feelings for Mugi now... maybe she just doesn't realise them. But why... GOD WHY did she start going out with this strange guy!? Why!? I mean what... she wants to be as b**chy as Akane? And does she think it will help her in some way? How stupid can she be? She even states that she feels empty inside while being touched so geez WHYYYYY!? I understand loneliness... I understand sadness but what the heck is going on right now - everyone going out with everyone, some kind of octagon or even a crazier figure. I'm disgusted and entertained at the same time and mad at myself because I shouldn't like this anime but I DO. But there is one thing - I don't think that this anime is realistic AT ALL. I mean, ok, you can be lonely and hug and kiss other person because you need someone close. But you don't start kissing and hugging every freakin' guy or girl around because you're lonely and you want your pure as f*** onii-san who is so stupid that he is the only person in the whole anime knowing literally NOTHING. Jon Snow of the anime world only less handsome and more boring. Ok, that's the end. It was too long anyway but I had to share my thoughts with someone. Yup. |
| Seeing all these people manipulating and using each other just feels so good. My friends say they cry watching some parts of the anime and I'm like, why? It just feels so refreshing~~~Kimochi iiiiiiiiiii It honestly makes me pleased instead of sad. No, but seriously I'm kind of impressed because I'm the crybaby of the group and??? But well, I guess that's just how things are sometimes. |
MaahHeimFeb 16, 2017 4:09 PM
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| I'm starting to realize the reason her Onii chan didn't go for her is because he decided to never make it romantic... so they can stay together forever (for sure). Hanabi made some bad decisions, but this one is troublesome. Trying to beat her in her own game? Trying to stoop lower than her? I wouldn't do it that way... that's foolish and self destructive. All the characters are despicable, but that's the whole point. Still a good show. |
| “Kuzu no Honkai” or as people will come to call it later “Tramp Wars”. Someone is gonna get stabbed in this one right? My School Days senses are tingling :S |
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MaliPiksi said: I feel so bad after this episode, idk why but it hurt a lot I know right? It felt like the soul-crushing despair increased tenfold this ep. In any case, there was a lot to digest here. I guess if you can take solace in anything, it's that pretty much everyone is in the wrong, so no innocent person is being victimized? Let's go with that. |
aikaflip said: Holy crap. What despicable characters. I'm not shipping anyone with anyone anymore because no one deserves anyone. It's still a great show, though. 5/5 Exactly how I feel xD |
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| Well, this is when things are getting increasingly heavy, and rooting for people becomes more and more difficult. Let's see how many viewers jump off the gravy train, and how many stay on. I can only repeat my original suggestion: Consider Kuzu no Honkai a character study first and foremost. With a wide array of unrequited love relationships experienced by many different types of characters. And the harder they try to get what they cannot have, the murkier and unfulfilling things get. And so, they naturally get less and less pleasant for the viewers. Though I still have to say that I still root for Hanabi. She's currently on the wrong trajectory, but at least she is self-aware enough to realize her mistakes. Doesn't change the fact though that she's currently walking through a black tunnel... |
| And this is the episode where I found out everyone is really scum. My new motto: I think, therefore I am scum. |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
| Akane is really messing up Hanabi. Ecchan is making me uncomfortable. Hanabi trying to let her go. Everyone is just terrible. Moca involved now. Summer Vacation. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| AOTS for me (with Acca as another candidate) boy, the realism this anime gives of today's society where feelings are trashed away with acting is pretty accurate, most of guys and girls nowadays doesn't care about that anymore |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| Oh boy, it's getting even more depressing. I love it. Seems like next episode will be a Moca episode. |
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| Really Hanabi? Your plan is to be a bitch like the bitch you hate? Really? Ecchan.....Hanabi should have let the guy on the train touch you And Moca.....I suppose Mugi has to "hang out" with someone Fuck all the #teams in this anime xD Now I really have my doubts about keep watching it. |
FlamingMangos said: I still don't get why people like Ecchan. Sure, you may relate to her but do you relate to her being creepy and her actions so far? If she was a guy then people would already calling sexual harassment and rape but because she's a girl, it's more forgiving. Like, fucking geeze. She's creepy as hell and this is a friend of hers we're talking about. I never liked her in the manga or in the anime. She was always portrayed as a creepy lesbian and was forceful to me. I don't like her. She's a creepy lesbo. MitoHu said: After 6 Episodes you still think there will be an happy end for all Characters? I think it would be more interesting with a bad ending ;) MaahHeim said: Seeing all these people manipulating and using each other just feels so good. My friends say they cry watching some parts of the anime and I'm like, why? It just feels so refreshing~~~Kimochi iiiiiiiiiii It honestly makes me pleased instead of sad. No, but seriously I'm kind of impressed because I'm the crybaby of the group and??? But well, I guess that's just how things are sometimes. That's dark xD I love watching them suffer as well >///< |
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Thnx4dafood said: FlamingMangos said: I still don't get why people like Ecchan. Sure, you may relate to her but do you relate to her being creepy and her actions so far? If she was a guy then people would already calling sexual harassment and rape but because she's a girl, it's more forgiving. Like, fucking geeze. She's creepy as hell and this is a friend of hers we're talking about. I never liked her in the manga or in the anime. She was always portrayed as a creepy lesbian and was forceful to me. I don't like her. She's a creepy lesbo. MitoHu said: After 6 Episodes you still think there will be an happy end for all Characters? I think it would be more interesting with a bad ending ;) MaahHeim said: Seeing all these people manipulating and using each other just feels so good. My friends say they cry watching some parts of the anime and I'm like, why? It just feels so refreshing~~~Kimochi iiiiiiiiiii It honestly makes me pleased instead of sad. No, but seriously I'm kind of impressed because I'm the crybaby of the group and??? But well, I guess that's just how things are sometimes. That's dark xD I love watching them suffer as well >///< I totally agree. There's a really fine line between smut and mature romance in anime, and this is just blatantly showing off the worst emotions love and sexual attraction can elicit. One of the best romantic dramas I've seen in a while. Here's hoping that it doesn't fuck up in the end! |
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