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Sep 29, 2016 3:09 AM
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I really want to know what caused the crash
Sep 29, 2016 3:12 AM
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There was a Crash? I didn't even realise I was watching Anime non stop in 2008.
Sep 29, 2016 3:12 AM
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The anime crash of 2008? i didn't learn about that in history class...
Sep 29, 2016 3:16 AM
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What? Never heard of that animu....
Sep 29, 2016 3:18 AM
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2008? I thought the anime crash was back on the 2000s... :/

But anyway, Google exists for this purpose..
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2014-05-30/.74675

Edit : You might be looking for this ?
https://iomnibus.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/why-the-anime-bubble-burst-part-1-cable-tv/
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Sep 29, 2016 3:26 AM
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Yeah, I can help...

There was this shitty anime called Clannad After Story...it was so depressing and suicide-inducing that it literally set anime back 10 years...

We're still trying to catch up.
Sep 29, 2016 3:27 AM
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2008? Hell if I know bro, they never told me that in world history

Sep 29, 2016 3:27 AM
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Unsustainable growth and poor business practices, I suppose. The industry went through a boom, but eventually the dvd audience just wasn't enough to cover the bucketload of releases.



Sep 29, 2016 3:27 AM
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Yeah, I can help...

There was this shitty anime called Clannad After Story...it was so depressing and suicide-inducing that it literally set anime back 10 years...

We're still trying to catch up.


The scene did not happen unit February 2009
Sep 29, 2016 3:57 AM

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Well because of one thing.

The goddam Americans who caused the economic crash.
Sep 29, 2016 4:00 AM

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Wut???
Wrong Article, I know! =_=

OT: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/51syt1/crunchyroll_and_funimation_announce_partnership/d7el647

Good luck figuring your answer from here :v
Sep 29, 2016 4:03 AM

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You see, in light of popular anime like Code Geass, Death Note, and many others, anime studios realized they could never maintain high standards of production. So then anime went to shit.
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Sep 29, 2016 4:03 AM

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2008 crash? I only know of the one from the lost decade.
Sep 29, 2016 4:49 AM

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Internet piracy got so bad we lost Toonami. Not to mention the global financial crisis.
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Sep 29, 2016 5:37 AM

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looks like the same time as japanese economic bubble and world too IIRC...
it's also interesting that oversee sales also declining (even still not back to it's prime time...) but it's get better over years... also streaming now become new power for industries outcome... (still lost to pachinko thou... lOl)
source:
https://imgur.com/a/PmUFR
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Sep 29, 2016 12:34 PM

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Kuma said:
looks like the same time as japanese economic bubble and world too IIRC...
it's also interesting that oversee sales also declining (even still not back to it's prime time...) but it's get better over years... also streaming now become new power for industries outcome... (still lost to pachinko thou... lOl)
source:
https://imgur.com/a/PmUFR


You can actually read this one: http://aja.gr.jp/?wpdmdl=869

Of note: Production minutes of animation in 2006 was 136,407 min. (279 "programs") and that dropped to 90,445 min. (195 programs) by 2010.

Or you can go find the old seasonal charts and see it decline from 40+ shows a season to like 20.
Sep 29, 2016 1:09 PM
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As everyone knows, anime began in 2007 with the first anime and Hiroyuiki Imaishi's magnum opus: Lucky Star. Riding on Lucky Star's success came in a new wave of amazing anime, corrupting children's minds with images of little girls eating chocolate cornets. To end this corrupting influence and save the future, Barack Obama created an anime to end all anime... School Days. School Days was so bad that people had to stuff chocolate cornets in their eyes and blind themselves. However, School Days became one of the greatest anime of all time and was beloved by pretty much everyone. So then why did anime crash, you may be asking? Well, the worse was yet to come, an anime so bad that it would shake the steadfastness of the anime community, split them into different factions and eternally make them wage war with devastating insults such as "pleb" and "your waifu is shit". Of course, I fear that you already know of the anime of which I speak, Tomohiko Itou and Nagao Takena's devil child of hatred, 'Chi's Sweet Home'. In 2008, this seemingly innocent take on the harem genre managed to eternally divide the anime community and is a constant question of debate. Some believe that the script was written by Hiroyuiki Imaishi for the destruction of chocolate cornet-shaped monstrosity that he had created, while others believe that Barack Obama had some part in funding it. Despite all this, the anime community loved Chi's Sweet Home too because they are morons. So, you may be asking, if School Days and even Chi's Sweet Home could not put an end to the shit-smelling lunatic-filled runaway train that we like to nickname "anime", what could? Well, on September 12th 2008, one day after the commemoration of 9/11, the second great tragedy of this Millennium occurred. Cory in the House ended. It was truly devastating to millions, nay, billions of people around the globe. They held funeral services for Cory. They marched to the White House and asked Barack for their anime back. But it could not be. Cory was laid in the cold ground, never to be "in the House" again.

See you space cory...
Sep 29, 2016 1:32 PM

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It was just after the Cool down period, that preceded a rather long Golden age.

It wasn't so muct a crash, as it was, studios needed a break.

In anycase though, that was short lived lol, because 2009 is so godly, It's literally a Golden age in of its self, but sadly that year would become known as the year where awesome anime go to hide. This happened because pretty much all of the studios decided to release amazing anime, yet not advertise at all in Japan.
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Sep 29, 2016 1:54 PM

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Mhhh... So it is a recent shit... I'm sure people who covered it about the masses knows the shit...
Sep 29, 2016 1:59 PM

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It probably crashed because Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann had ended and there wasn't anything decent coming out the year thereafter. Luckily for the anime industry, Fairy Tail came out in 2009, which is probably what saved everything and made anime great anime.
Sep 29, 2016 3:07 PM

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Anime companies like Genon, Central Park Media, 4kids (Maybe good for a lot of fans. People still lost jobs though) and ADV (Pre-Sentai Filmworks) went down under. When Youtube and Daily Motion became big after 2005, people just upload fan subs and TV recordings of dubs from TV on those web sites. It made it easier for fans to watch things without buying bootleg fan subs or waiting a hour for things to download via Windows Media Player.

Other companies like Tokyo Pop, Ubran Vision and Bandai Entertainment also went down under in 2009-2012.
Sep 29, 2016 3:28 PM
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As everyone knows, anime began in 2007 with the first anime and Hiroyuiki Imaishi's magnum opus: Lucky Star. Riding on Lucky Star's success came in a new wave of amazing anime, corrupting children's minds with images of little girls eating chocolate cornets. To end this corrupting influence and save the future, Barack Obama created an anime to end all anime... School Days. School Days was so bad that people had to stuff chocolate cornets in their eyes and blind themselves. However, School Days became one of the greatest anime of all time and was beloved by pretty much everyone. So then why did anime crash, you may be asking? Well, the worse was yet to come, an anime so bad that it would shake the steadfastness of the anime community, split them into different factions and eternally make them wage war with devastating insults such as "pleb" and "your waifu is shit". Of course, I fear that you already know of the anime of which I speak, Tomohiko Itou and Nagao Takena's devil child of hatred, 'Chi's Sweet Home'. In 2008, this seemingly innocent take on the harem genre managed to eternally divide the anime community and is a constant question of debate. Some believe that the script was written by Hiroyuiki Imaishi for the destruction of chocolate cornet-shaped monstrosity that he had created, while others believe that Barack Obama had some part in funding it. Despite all this, the anime community loved Chi's Sweet Home too because they are morons. So, you may be asking, if School Days and even Chi's Sweet Home could not put an end to the shit-smelling lunatic-filled runaway train that we like to nickname "anime", what could? Well, on September 12th 2008, one day after the commemoration of 9/11, the second great tragedy of this Millennium occurred. Cory in the House ended. It was truly devastating to millions, nay, billions of people around the globe. They held funeral services for Cory. They marched to the White House and asked Barack for their anime back. But it could not be. Cory was laid in the cold ground, never to be "in the House" again.

See you space cory...


+1, Perfect explanation about the whole tragedy. Truly the most darkest time in anime history ;_;
Sep 29, 2016 7:31 PM

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CatSoul said:
Internet piracy got so bad we lost Toonami. Not to mention the global financial crisis.


Toonami was not playing anything special by 2008. Just mostly Naruto and Yu-Gi-Oh.
Sep 29, 2016 8:46 PM

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I'd start with the Answerman pieces referenced above.

If we're talking about the North American market, by the mid-2000's US licensors were paying uneconomic amounts for the rights to distribute anime. Documents filed by ADV in conjunction with a lawsuit showed the company had paid as much as $960,000 for shows like Kurau: Phantom Memory, and over $700K for Air Gear and Pumpkin Scissors. Kurau was a decent show, but it was never going to earn back the $1 million ADV paid for it.

At the same time the number of brick-and-mortar stores that sold or rented anime titles began to shrink as competition from online retailers like Amazon increased. With anime being largely a niche market, mainstream retailers like Best Buy and the now-defunct Blockbuster found themselves with excess inventory and became more cautious about which titles they would carry. This limited the potential for impulse purchases from customers browsing the titles on display.

Piracy and fansubbing played some role too, of course. Distributors and retailers did not know how to compete with free content. Some companies like Viz stuck to implausible, Japanese-styled business models, releasing shows in four-episode chunks across numerous DVDs. Somehow they believed that Americans would be willing to buy all 74 episodes of Hikaru no Go on nearly twenty discs at $20 or more each. There were a few blockbuster titles like Naruto or Dragon Ball that could be sold on this basis, but the notion that Americans would invest hundreds of dollars to watch kids play an arcane board game was simply ludicrous. These developments led to the release of full-series boxsets, often sold at a discount like Funimation's S.A.V.E. line.

Ironically piracy has also fueled pricing strategies like those we see from Aniplex USA and Pony Canyon USA, whose relatively high prices accept the notion that only a small band of collectors will continue to buy discs. Inexpensive legal streaming contributes to that trend as well. It also, of course, brought about the end of hobbyists engaged in English-language fansubbing. What was once a creative endeavor requiring teams of translators, encoders, quality checkers and the like has become the type of mindless, uncreative fansubbing we see from ripoff groups like Horrible.

Finally, of course, there was the recession which cut demand for anime all across the world including Japan and key foreign markets like the US.

The conjunction of these, and probably other factors led to a few noteworthy bankruptcies like ADV Films and the departure of Japanese subsidiaries like Geneon USA.

The recent agreement between Crunchyroll and Funimation represents an attempt to avert a new bubble in rights fees. Competition among the licensors for streaming rights has once again driven up the cost of anime licenses, so CR and Funi have now decided to stop competing and divide up the market between them along the lines of subbed vs. dubbed releases. In economic theory this is called creating a monopsony, a situation where one or a few buyers face a marketplace of competing sellers. By refusing to bid against each other CR and Funi hope to hold down the demands for ever-increasing rights fees from Japanese producers.
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Japan's economy has been going downhill since the early 90s when the real estate asset bubble popped
2008 was a bad year in general for any economy
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