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Jul 22, 2016 4:03 PM
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Ah Mari and her time travel journey continues. She lands into the past again and this time, she gets involved with the invention to put a stopper into lightning. What I find this episode more interesting is that she also makes a new friend in that timeline.
Jul 22, 2016 6:02 PM
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Felt a little rushed compared to the last trip, but oh well. Thought they'd touch upon the slavery issue more too.

Was Ben Franklin really that much of a womanizer?
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Jul 22, 2016 7:53 PM
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Clearly it's all about that FranklinxMari ship jk.

I heard that Ben Franklin was mischievous to say the least but I didn't know he was a playboy too (though I'm not surprised). Overall great episode but it did felt like it was a bit rushed (Mari suddenly up and vanished right after the demonstration).
Jul 22, 2016 8:47 PM
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Yeah Franklin was known for his love of the ladies, big time. Especially on his trips to France. XD

Anyway another very cute episode. Interesting how the church remained obstructionist and the note on slavery. Loved all the Engrish throughout too. So the kite Franklin used had a samurai on it eh? Who knew? XD It's too bad he only got the one episode, but we got a lotta figures to get through still.
Jul 22, 2016 10:01 PM
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Time for another Journey. I really hope that Mari can "travel" together with Waka.
No wonder Mari seems "attracted" to that young Franklin.
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Jul 22, 2016 11:13 PM
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This episode was a bit rushed!

Franklin was such a playboy!
Jul 22, 2016 11:18 PM
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It's all very elementary introduction to the history of classical electrical engineering.

Electricity in the clouds is not so much built up in the water as it is gathered there, using the clouds as a lightning rod. Starting from the ground, there is charge differential between the ground and the cloud layers. When a particularly conductive cloud system rolls over a particularly conductive area on the ground, lightning connects the cloud to the ground. The energy in the cloud came from the ionosphere above, a highly electrified layer of the atmosphere, through sprite lightning formations because of charge differential again. The ionosphere is electrified by the surrounding environment where material carrying energy comes from the sun and exchanges charge, leaving bulk energy behind. So in the end, even if a storm cloud may not be directly triggered by a solar event, the energy that gets stored in them like a capacitor(battery) comes from the sun. To summarize, the sun is positive, the ionosphere is negative, the stormcloud is positive, and the ground is negative. That's not a very accurate description but it makes sense to think of it that way.


I'll be annoyed if i don't see any mentions of dielectricity anywhere, because that's when classical electrical engineering hit it's peak, when defining the aether and the explanatory (not descriptive) formulas for electrification. We're talking about electromagnetism before electromagnetism was "re-discovered" with a slightly confused description. Back then electricity was electromagnetic, and the electric properties of matter was dielectricity, aka charge separation (polarization: so called 'positive & negative'). So modern "electromagnetism" sounds like referring to electromagnetism made up of electromagnetism and magnetism; it's rather redundant. There's also a lot to suggest static electricity doesn't exist as thought as well, but that's another story.
PS: there is no positive and negative, just as there is no north and south on a magnet. We call them that, but it's like holding up a coin and saying the heads side is made up of matter and the tails is made of antimatter. It makes no sense, because they're both sides of the same coin. In this case, the coin is made up of dielectricity, aka polarized energy - the one and only kind of energy that exist in the universe besides force/motion. Dielectricity is one thing, magnetism is one thing, dielectricity terminates as magnetism, you create magnets by electrifying them - shocking them with a lot of power.

The world of electrical science is a very deep and complicated one, however it is simplex (meaning it's easy to understand because of simple concept, even if can be complicated because it can be layered and multiplied endlessly). If it's hard to understand you're probably learning the convoluted incorrect interpretations of electricity (don't listen to stuff about electrons, electron is a field around an atomic nucleus, like a planet with a magnetic field, not a tiny marble that zips around it super fast; that's the confusion made by quantum mechanics).

I guess it makes sense they don't show Tesla, not a whole ton is known about him besides his patents and that he was ostracized, even if he is one of the kings of electricity.

Cheers to science and those interested in learning true sciences~
GenesisAriaJul 22, 2016 11:55 PM
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Jul 22, 2016 11:49 PM
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I thought there was gonna be a bit more about slavery in this episode, but I guess the science is the main show.
Jul 23, 2016 12:54 AM
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I thought there was gonna be a bit more about slavery in this episode, but I guess the science is the main show.


Keep in mind slavery means something very different in jp then in the USA or at least a different point of view.

Over all good eps i do like how they are not comply white washing the ppl of the past all though they are being keeping it very "nice" to what it was realy like. It makes you think what "hang ups" we have now about tech and how we will look say 100 or so years from now.
Jul 23, 2016 10:27 AM
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I love the concept of using animation to teach people, but the sheer amount of bad history is starting to annoy me.

Last episode they had Gilbert talking about Galileo's trial, but Gilbert died 30 years before the trial (and the idea that Galileo said that was a myth that dates another century into the future).

This episode the opposition to the lightning rod is made up. Yes, in EUROPE, there was some opposition to them, but in colonial America there was little to none as the rapid acceptance of them (within a space of 2-3 years) shows. The one reference that is brought up, a minister from Massachusetts, did not say that God was directly punishing the use of lightning rods by sending earthquakes, but that the lightning rods, in directing lighting into the ground, was causing the earthquakes.

As for Franklin as a playboy. Yes, he was extremely liberal on the subject for the time, and enjoyed flirting, he even had an illegitimate son before his marriage.

However during the time of this episode he was in a common law marriage with Deborah Reed and it is highly doubtful that he could have been so flamboyant about it in Quaker Philadelphia. Franklin was extremely well known and prominent in local politics, so there is no way he would have been so open about it. 20 years later, after his wife died, Franklin was famous as a flirt in Paris.
Jul 23, 2016 10:53 AM

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Cute little show.

I don't know if the vast amount of historical inaccuracies is intentional or not though.
Jul 23, 2016 11:03 AM

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This is turning out to be a surprise show of the season. I didn't think I'd enjoy it this much. Liking the little touch on social issues of those periods. Mari is a fun MC.

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I really hope that Mari can "travel" together with Waka.

Agreed. ;)
Jul 23, 2016 12:58 PM

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This show is surprisingly fun to watch. I like it quite a bit, lol.
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Jul 23, 2016 2:32 PM

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Jski said:
Keep in mind slavery means something very different in jp then in the USA or at least a different point of view.
Yeah, but what japan sees is more of a servant contract (the samurai chooses the shogun). Which kinda differs from western slavery which is basically human trafficking of forced workers. Ofc not every slave owner was a mistreating douchebag, but ya. It's just not in the cultural background in japan, plus it's not meant to be a hardcore series anyways.

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I don't know if the vast amount of historical inaccuracies is intentional or not though.
The historical aspect is probably just using course introductory textbook references, and not full study. It complies with the fact that the experiments they reference are archaic and introductory as well.

I don't really care about the history personally, it's minor intrigue. I'm always more interested in nature's truths, wherever or whenever they might be.
GenesisAriaJul 23, 2016 2:38 PM
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Jul 23, 2016 5:27 PM
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GenesisAria said:
Jski said:
Keep in mind slavery means something very different in jp then in the USA or at least a different point of view.
Yeah, but what japan sees is more of a servant contract (the samurai chooses the shogun). Which kinda differs from western slavery which is basically human trafficking of forced workers. Ofc not every slave owner was a mistreating douchebag, but ya. It's just not in the cultural background in japan, plus it's not meant to be a hardcore series anyways.
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More of a cast thing not race for jp, all though the USA was cast to a point but race played a much bigger roll when it came to human trafficking and forced labor.
Jul 23, 2016 5:50 PM

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Jski said:
GenesisAria said:
Yeah, but what japan sees is more of a servant contract (the samurai chooses the shogun). Which kinda differs from western slavery which is basically human trafficking of forced workers. Ofc not every slave owner was a mistreating douchebag, but ya. It's just not in the cultural background in japan, plus it's not meant to be a hardcore series anyways.
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More of a cast thing not race for jp, all though the USA was cast to a point but race played a much bigger roll when it came to human trafficking and forced labor.
Oh right, duh, why did i not think of that. I don't even acknowledge differences in race besides maybe looks and general mannerisms. Indeed subservience in japan never really had anything to do with race, it was between individuals, families or whatever, and never really had anything to do with genes, it was always case-by-case basis.

Even today, japan's distaste or gaijins has nothing to do with race, it's all about whether you were born japanese or not. Even half caucasian counts as japanese if one of the parents is a japanese citizen... so far as i understand.
GenesisAriaJul 23, 2016 5:55 PM
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Jul 23, 2016 8:35 PM

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I'm actually really enjoying this so far, it's educational but very cute and entertaining as well
Jul 24, 2016 12:38 AM

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nostalgia is entertaining, I will keep watching
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Jul 24, 2016 4:02 AM

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benjamin franklin this time... I like how franklin is handsomer than the actual picture itself
Jul 24, 2016 8:17 AM

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Benjamin Franklin and electricity this time, huh? Well, that was fun. It would be fun if Mari wouldn't go alone in the past next time.


Jul 24, 2016 3:47 PM

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Waka made a tea party and it's Benjamin Franklin this time
Jul 24, 2016 6:41 PM
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Benjamin Franklin made me laugh and was pretty entertaining.
Jul 25, 2016 2:41 PM

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Really didn't expect the slavery reference... O.O
Jul 28, 2016 8:03 PM

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Ol' Ben was a cool dude.
Jul 30, 2016 7:10 PM

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Well now, I'm quite surprised with this episode. Too actually have slaves, and not water it down until it's literally just water, I didn't really expect that. And Benjamin Franklin turned out too be a pretty weird dude, and a little creepy...
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Aug 5, 2016 6:47 AM
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this anime is really fun to watch.
I liked this episode.
Aug 13, 2016 5:30 AM

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This is too bad that the episode was rushed, but when you see all the scientists in the opening, it was sure they were going to rush the anime. Anyway, still an interesting episode
Aug 17, 2016 8:16 PM

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Mari travels again, Benjamin Franklin this time.

Feb 17, 2020 6:50 AM
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eh I dont know if Im gonna continue w/ this show. It seems like it tries to get you interested in history but seems more focused on putting a modern day Japanese girl into the past merely interactng w/ historical figures and doing cutsy stuff rather than learn more.
4/10 for me
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Damn, why does Mari need to leave >:(. I like this lol
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones!

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Benjamin Franklin with his thunder experiment, that was cool!

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