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Jul 11, 2016 11:41 PM
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I've noticed some posts say "What's the point of following the story seriously if he can just reset?" “Why doesn’t he just reset if he messes up?” “I hate this MC.” Well, I'd like to see you jump off a cliff on a whim or slice your wrists without second thoughts. Do you believe killing yourself is an easy alternative to solving everything, when there’s usually a lot of pain involved in the process of dying? Maybe the Higurashi anime is a good example of another character who had been going through this same scenario a very long time. Compared to that, Subaru is still in the early stages of adjusting to the experiences of his power. Still, he is going down that same path of becoming a negative, closed-off, unstable person from his powers just like the character in Higurashi. The resetting makes the story more awesome because you see everything from many different angles. It’s cool to watch a show where the MC is not perfect and makes mistakes compared to all the cliché anime crap out there, and he gets a chance to fix his errors which is entertaining to say the least. The other main point is that he is fully aware that this new world is not the world he is from, so he doesn’t really respect the heritages of the people or their culture. He doesn’t have to follow the societal standards of this ‘fantasy’ society because he knows he can reset and rid himself of his past actions. It’s entertaining to watch a character who has become complacent with his power and just says or does whatever is on his mind to the extreme without caring about the consequences. Key phrase, to the extreme. Not many anime go that far and follow a cliche formula, but you can throw all of that out of the window in this show. Resetting allows one to get a very negative (or positive) outlook on the same situation that was initially nothing of importance to begin with. That’s why resetting is such a powerful and interesting story concept.
Jul 11, 2016 11:44 PM
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Well this is light spoiler

Jul 11, 2016 11:46 PM
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Yohanlie said:
Well this is light spoiler



Lol I quoted you, but my eyes refuse to read the spoilers in the quote when it was in edit post form. I'm not reading spoilers.
Jul 11, 2016 11:47 PM
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Okay.
I just wanna inform that argument about it's pointless to feel because subaru can restart.

Is wrong.

The time will break that argument itself.
Jul 12, 2016 1:11 AM
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Yohanlie said:
Well this is light spoiler



That's not light spoiler at all LOL
Jul 12, 2016 1:29 AM
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Purpose of the story is to show suffering and gore. Resets makes this story possible.
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Jul 12, 2016 2:59 AM
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Yohanlie said:
Okay.
I just wanna inform that argument about it's pointless to feel because subaru can restart.

Is wrong.

The time will break that argument itself.


literally quite untrue. if only he *abused* the restart far more than what he's doing right now (which is just emo-ing around), that *spoiler* would not have happened.

let alone shaming himself in the royal court
>I had no brain when I was 12
>Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12
>I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12
>Therefore children cannot consent

This is what science has done to humanity.
Jul 12, 2016 3:57 AM
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kidlat020 said:
Yohanlie said:
Okay.
I just wanna inform that argument about it's pointless to feel because subaru can restart.

Is wrong.

The time will break that argument itself.


literally quite untrue. if only he *abused* the restart far more than what he's doing right now (which is just emo-ing around), that *spoiler* would not have happened.

let alone shaming himself in the royal court


He can abuse jackshit. Subaru does not control his power, Satella does. He ends up where ever she decides. So let's stop acting like he has much control over it then actually does. There is also the fact he hates fucking dying wouldn't suicide unless he was super desperate and at a dead end.
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Jul 12, 2016 4:41 AM
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kidlat020 said:
Yohanlie said:
Okay.
I just wanna inform that argument about it's pointless to feel because subaru can restart.

Is wrong.

The time will break that argument itself.


literally quite untrue. if only he *abused* the restart far more than what he's doing right now (which is just emo-ing around), that *spoiler* would not have happened.

let alone shaming himself in the royal court


Honestly dude, you're like a broken record; do you ever stop? You're not making any valid points, you're just repeating yourself.

For the last time, he CANNOT 'abuse' his powers. Why? Well for one each reset requires him to die/commit suicide, which means he'll have to endure immense pain and psychological trauma. He can't just go around throwing himself off a building every time he makes a blunder. Honestly your argument has to be the most infuriating one ever. It has zero substance, you're just tilted because he's not acting the way YOU want him to.

Emo-ing around? His emotional outbursts are justified, very much so. He's seen mutilated bodies of his friends, and people he cares about. Is that something you can just put aside? Sure their deaths are undone when he resets but that doesn't mean his memory of it does. Ever stubbed your toe? Ever broke a limb? No? Yes? Well imagine how much it takes for a human to die. Imagine experiencing that multiple times. Even if you have the ability to return from death, you'll want to AVOID that pain.
Jul 12, 2016 5:08 AM

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@Yohanlie That light spoiler is not light. This is a light spoiler.



Come on man, you shouldn't discuss plot that heavily to people who don't want to be spoiled.
Jul 12, 2016 5:43 AM

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1. I'm fucking sick of the argument "oh he's suffering because of the deaths, could you do that and come out fine", of course not, that's obvious. The thing is none of us are magical 18 year olds who were pulled into a fantasy world and given the ability to revive from death so no one knows how you would react if you go through a situation like this. Maybe we'd be fine, maybe we'd flip out, it's all random guesses that mean nothing unless you are seriously interested in human psychology.

2. "it's not cliche so it's good" is a meme that needs to die as well. You can be shit and different.

3. I don't give a shit if Subaru sees characters get mangled in front of him and dead on the street if he resets because none of their deaths matter. Putting emphasis on those deaths means nothing to me because they're obviously not going to stay dead in Subaru's world.

4. Time resets are done wrong most of the time. Steins;Gate was good because time resets were not the end all be all to solve everything. Tatami Galaxy was good because time resets were not intentional by the MC and it was used to deliver a theme. The time resets only happened at the end of each episode and then the next episode started(and no character remembers a previous timeline including the MC.) In Re:Zero Subaru just goes through shit and resets until everything is fixed. He suffers mentally and that's it.
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Jul 12, 2016 8:15 AM
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Honestly I'm glad he doesn't try to commit suicide to keep everything perfect and decides to accept his embarrassing mistakes, he wouldn't develop at all if he just committed suicide the minute something didn't go his way.
Also he's a lot more successful than most time travelers he's been through 3 loops and has died about 9 or 10 times so far and half of the time he doesn't realize he's died.

RainyRai said:

3. I don't give a shit if Subaru sees characters get mangled in front of him and dead on the street if he resets because none of their deaths matter. Putting emphasis on those deaths means nothing to me because they're obviously not going to stay dead in Subaru's world.

4. Time resets are done wrong most of the time. Steins;Gate was good because time resets were not the end all be all to solve everything. Tatami Galaxy was good because time resets were not intentional by the MC and it was used to deliver a theme. The time resets only happened at the end of each episode and then the next episode started(and no character remembers a previous timeline including the MC.) In Re:Zero Subaru just goes through shit and resets until everything is fixed. He suffers mentally and that's it.


Re:Zero is all about Subaru and whatever path he plans to walk down so for him it was an inevitable reality and he felt powerless to stop it. Even if they weren't going to stay dead it's up to him to stop them dying and he temporarily gave up on a way to stop it.

All three needed time travel to fix their problems, with Okabe he just ended up creating most of his own and was the only character out of the three who could control his resets. Watashi wasn't aware of them or was willfully ignorant till he realizes he's in a loop and finally fixes it. Subaru actually thinks he's the greatest because of it as this arc has shown, which caused his disgrace, he was still trying to prove it until he sees the carnage.
Jul 12, 2016 8:29 AM

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Yohanlie said:
Well this is light spoiler



Hi man! I would like to know about it more. Can you message me and tell me who is that comrade?
Jul 12, 2016 9:57 AM
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RainyRai said:

3. I don't give a shit if Subaru sees characters get mangled in front of him and dead on the street if he resets because none of their deaths matter. Putting emphasis on those deaths means nothing to me because they're obviously not going to stay dead in Subaru's world.


And they won't stay alive for long, either, until he solves the problem.
Jul 12, 2016 11:54 AM
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That middle aged guy isn't very popular, is he? So he said that there was no character development, as it resets. Is he ignoring the fact that Subaru retains the experiences? 'Refusing to accept that there's no character development, when you have dying resets'. Is he saying that Subaru ignores what he learns? If not, then he develops. He's learned to cooperate - to rely more on other people. He was bringing Rem with him to the mansion.

That Youtuber is hateful, huh. Has that channel for years, and it hasn't grown. It's quite clear that his opinion is inferior to others'. His content is of worse quality.


His video on Fate Stay Night being a porn game adaptation... Oh, man. The commenter he replied to, was obviously right. But he was humble, eh.



Anyway.
Jul 12, 2016 1:02 PM
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iRels said:


That middle aged guy isn't very popular, is he? So he said that there was no character development, as it resets. Is he ignoring the fact that Subaru retains the experiences? 'Refusing to accept that there's no character development, when you have dying resets'. Is he saying that Subaru ignores what he learns? If not, then he develops. He's learned to cooperate - to rely more on other people. He was bringing Rem with him to the mansion.

That Youtuber is hateful, huh. Has that channel for years, and it hasn't grown. It's quite clear that his opinion is inferior to others'. His content is of worse quality.


His video on Fate Stay Night being a porn game adaptation... Oh, man. The commenter he replied to, was obviously right. But he was humble, eh.



Anyway.


He's definitely trying way too hard, it's just downright cringey. He's using it as a way to stay relevant; insult an anime that's popular and get a massive amount of attention for his channel.
Jul 12, 2016 1:41 PM

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Discuss what? He criticizes the fanbase not the series itself.
Jul 12, 2016 1:46 PM

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Z4k said:

Discuss what? He criticizes the fanbase not the series itself.


He did criticize the series in that video, its just mixed in with the criticism of the fanbase.
Jul 12, 2016 2:56 PM

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Yohanlie said:
Well this is light spoiler



Well, that would be a spoiler if it wasn't extremely obvious it was gonna happen xD
Not a bad thing, though. If the series gets another season, I want to watch that part




Discuss any of that guy's videos? no thanks, he can go talk to the wall. not even gonna watch... *cringe*
Jul 12, 2016 4:46 PM

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Without even clicking the link, I already knew it was Snob's recent recent video on Re Zero. What disappoints the most is that most of his subscribers think everything he says is true about modern anime stuff being popular regardless of it's quality and that retro is the best. Everything he said in that video was already cleared up in the anime or explained by others watching it. At least there were some people who thought the video was pretty pointless.

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iRels said:
RainyRai said:

3. I don't give a shit if Subaru sees characters get mangled in front of him and dead on the street if he resets because none of their deaths matter. Putting emphasis on those deaths means nothing to me because they're obviously not going to stay dead in Subaru's world.


And they won't stay alive for long, either, until he solves the problem.

Which only gives me reason to be attached to Subaru, who is a dick.
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