Maylis said: I'm sorry but this confuses me. SOOOOO many people that I have met, have said that they hate anime. They say they don't see the point in it and think it's stupid. But then they love cartoons like fairy god parents. How the hell? Anime is pretty much cartoons but we better graphics! What do you guys think? If you understand why people say this, please explain it to me ;-; i think people have different opinions on what country they choose to watch their animation, probably because they were uhhh born there? it doesn't really confuse you(very simple concept), you just prefer the japanese variety. that's okay, okay. did you not grow up on animaniacs or something? are you from japan? i think i overestimate the amount of people out of the west maybe. i see people who think either way and respect the opinion of their choice of cartoon. hardly anyone even says this, but the very few who do it's because of what maz said. probably. like, nobody says this though, at all. |
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Lol TV Tropes disagrees. And if both Star and Punie can go from being sweet and cutesy to berserk bad-ass princess, I must disagree as well. Truthfully, I can't really think of a character (anime or otherwise) who is EXACTLY like Star Butterfly....and that's why she is so awesome. |
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Chiibi said: Tv Tropes can be edited by anyone like wiki. Punie literally has a split personality like Moka from Rosario Vampire. Star isn't like that at all. She acts zany and overly energetic all the time and that carries over into her fighting. Also even before she fought the monsters she wanted to fight the drinking fountain when she now met Marco which showed that she isn't just all cutesy plus when she made the rainbow and it caught on fire it was obvious she isn't just a cutesy normal princess.DrGeroCreation said: I'm not denying that but Star is more like a western cartoon character as I said. The character from that anime is nothing like her personality wise. Lol TV Tropes disagrees. And if both Star and Punie can go from being sweet and cutesy to berserk bad-ass princess, I must disagree as well. |
DrGeroCreationMar 16, 2016 10:34 AM
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| Hmm I haven''t heard that before until now, in most cases of people I know they either like anime and don't watch cartoons or just don't watch any of them. |
DrGeroCreation said: Tv Tropes can be edited by anyone like wiki. ..............................yes, and your point is? Opinions....everyone has them. Punie literally has a split personality like Moka from Rosario Vampire. Star isn't like that at all. She acts zany and overly energetic all the time and that carries over into her fighting. You're focusing too much on the little details though. If you remove the split personality part, they have a similar character type: cute yet badass. Actually, Star is able to calm down once in a while to have serious discussions with Marco and other characters and it is normally those very "real" moments that make me really like the show. Gives it depth. |
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Chiibi said: Star is not just cute she is zany and energetic which is an essential part of her character and the cute but badass trope can be applied to many characters like the Powerpuff Girls etc. Yes she can but generally she isn't but I agree with that last part there .DrGeroCreation said: Tv Tropes can be edited by anyone like wiki. ..............................yes, and your point is? Opinions....everyone has them. Punie literally has a split personality like Moka from Rosario Vampire. Star isn't like that at all. She acts zany and overly energetic all the time and that carries over into her fighting. You're focusing too much on the little details though. If you remove the split personality part, they have a similar character type: cute yet badass. Actually, Star is able to calm down once in a while to have serious discussions with Marco and other characters and it is normally those very "real" moments that make me really like the show. Gives it depth. |
DrGeroCreationMar 16, 2016 10:49 AM
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ashfrliebert said: Maylis said: I'm sorry but this confuses me. SOOOOO many people that I have met, have said that they hate anime. They say they don't see the point in it and think it's stupid. But then they love cartoons like fairy god parents. How the hell? Anime is pretty much cartoons but we better graphics! What do you guys think? If you understand why people say this, please explain it to me ;-; i think people have different opinions on what country they choose to watch their animation, probably because they were uhhh born there? it doesn't really confuse you(very simple concept), you just prefer the japanese variety. that's okay, okay. did you not grow up on animaniacs or something? are you from japan? i think i overestimate the amount of people out of the west maybe Personally, I was born neither in Japan, nor in USA, and my own country's animation just can't compete when it comes to sheer amount of stuff they make. So I watched both japanese and american cartoons as a child. I learned that cartoons have a country of origin later. Now I prefer Japanese anime. |
flannan said: Personally, I was born neither in Japan, nor in USA, and my own country's animation just can't compete when it comes to sheer amount of stuff they make. So I watched both japanese and american cartoons as a child. I learned that cartoons have a country of origin later. Now I prefer Japanese anime. I get that, I understand that. but it's such a weird thing to say "But then they love cartoons like fairy god parents. How the hell? ", when it's pretty obvious(edit: at least if your in america). Like, the people who watch stuff like fairy odd parents(an american cartoon) are 1. around 10 years old, usually 2. watching it because it's on their television, 10 or not. Which is a completely different thing from people who actively seek out animated shows from another country via buying it, on the web or via download. Most people who say the title phrase are mostly unfamiliar with anime outside of small doses from 500 episodes series like bleach on like the 15 minute mark of episode 250 on adult swim or something. edit: like, the question is "why do people watch cartoons they know that airs on convenient times rather than ones that don't air at all/air at inconvenient times " and "why don't people watch cartoons that were made for the people with a different culture, language and country" basically. It's silly to ask this question just because "it's better and i think it looks prettier". edit: That's not to say Japan's culture is anything like it's cartoons or that "Western" countries cultures are anything like it's cartoons, and that it's super-hard for people to understand something not of their culture(duuh this is an anime listing site) but you get the point. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Female characters having lips and noses makes the character designs better than female anime characters to me. Tired of lazy huge eyes no nose no lips shit. Well I personally prefer the "simplistic" style (huge eyes, tiny nose, tiny lips) over the "detailed" one. However there are plenty of anime drawn in the detailed style that I love (e.g. Cowboy Bebop, Mononoke Hime, etc.) DrGeroCreation said: anobaka said: Felidae,the Rabbi's cat, Batman Year 1, Justice League Gods and Monsters are just as good. If you automatically hate anything to do with superheroes then too bad for you. Also the anime you listed are very rare in anime now. Non mecha sci fi is a minority in anime. Harems, moe girl school anime and fantasy LN adaptions are far more popular and widespread.The things you mentioned represent just a fraction of anime range. With western cartoons I cannot find great stuff like Cowboy Bebop, Psycho-Pass, Ghost in the Shell, Planetes etc. Since I hate superhero crap and Disney fairy-tales, I am pretty much out of options when it comes to western cartoons. The category I listed might be less produced in anime industry but at least it exist. On the other hand, in western cartoons it is non-existent. |
| "graphics" The word you're looking for is art. Some people favor cartoons over anime for a multitude of reasons, they think of anime as perverted highschool sexual joke filled comedy shows, and you only have the influx of them and the idiotic fans of them to blame. Some also just don't like an overarching story. |
| @anobaka Ok sure but it's hypocritical how anime fans always stereotype cartoons as being unrealistic yet still have no problem with limited facial features and exaggerated eyes which is not realistic on anime characters. That style in anime was common in the 90's and early 2000's but is somewhat rare to find now while with DC superhero cartoons it's super common presently. It does exist in western cartoons. Aeon Flux, Titan AE, Star Wars Clone Wars, Galaxy Rangers, Gandahar, Renaissance, Kaena. |
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EmiLu-chan said: Cartoons have always been meant to appeal to everyone not just children and there are cartoons specifically for adults.Maylis said: I'm sorry but this confuses me. SOOOOO many people that I have met, have said that they hate anime. They say they don't see the point in it and think it's stupid. But then they love cartoons like fairy god parents. How the hell? Anime is pretty much cartoons but we better graphics! What do you guys think? If you understand why people say this, please explain it to me ;-; Seriously that i don't get...i also like cartoons because they're nostalgic for me... But you're right anime has better animation and has a larger target group than cartoons, since they're.meant for children, and anime also appeals to older audiences with for example more grown-up topics/plotlines or sexual content:) |
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| I've never heard anybody say that but when I was in High school Some Students didn't get what was so good about anime but then they would star talking nostalgically about cartoons from the early 2000's and late 90's, I'm not sure if they still watched cartoons though. Many people like Disney movies because they are mainstream, Some people might just dislike anime because they haven't seen an anime that they like and assume that all anime is like that. |
| Anime is cartoon with better graphics? Really slick comparison xD. I'm also a cartoon watcher, there are some differences, 1. Art 2. Story progress (it feels somewhat different) 3. Cartoon is limited (Not too much gore and almost no ecchi for example) 4. Characterization (in cartoons I don't see a lot of psychos like Gasai Yuno ,lol) So why do people like cartoons? Because every human has their own preferences ;P. What you like is subjective. + ATLA and Jackie Chan shit was pretty cool. Don't forget that there are also good cartoons out there ^__^. |
| Adult animated sitcoms and DC animated movies can have gore and ecchi. Gore Ecchi content Duatizer said: Harley would be the cartoon equivalent to Yuno and predates Yuno by a number of years since she came out in the 90's while Yuno came out in the late 2000's.Characterization (in cartoons I don't see a lot of psychos like Gasai Yuno ,lol)   |
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DrGeroCreation said: Adult animated sitcoms and DC animated movies can have gore and ecchi. Gore Ecchi content Duatizer said: Harley would be the cartoon equivalent to Yuno and predates Yuno by a number of years since she came out in the 90's while Yuno came out in the late 2000's.Characterization (in cartoons I don't see a lot of psychos like Gasai Yuno ,lol) ;P, I watch more of the ''childish'' ones or fantasy-like. And I ddn't come across a lot of these elements, but it looks like those things do exist in cartoons ;). |
| Show them sword art onlinu ! Should be enough to change all their opinions. |
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Maylis said: Anime is pretty much cartoons but we better graphics! What do you guys think? If you understand why people say this, please explain it to me ;-; I think I'd have to disagree with you there. That's much too broad a generalization even if we're just talking in animation terms. |
| anime are by definition cartoons..... they're just Japanese cartoons..... anyway..... so what if people don't like it? then just talk to the people that do about it.... |
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Mamster-P said: anime are by definition cartoons..... they're just Japanese cartoons..... anyway..... so what if people don't like it? then just talk to the people that do about it.... Pretty much the best advice that can be given. If you're wondering WHY people think this way its because we as humans are diverse individuals with a multitude of opinions. If you disagree then take the advice stated above. |
VeredinMar 17, 2016 2:17 PM
Bobby2Hands said: You've obviously never seen Drawn Together (which in fact has full frontal uncensored nudity) Nope, I have replied earlier to DrGero, that I watch the more so-named childish cartoons. And fantasy stuff. I never really came across extreme things like what you showed ;P. And I also don't like the cartoons, that got a bit of gore/ecchi, I guess? That's maybe the reason why I don't know such things. Only things that I have watched, that came close to level ''not-approriate-for-4-year-old-childs'' are South park, American Dad, Futurama, etc. |
DuatizerMar 17, 2016 2:10 PM
| My premonition is that maybe the anime that they are watching are in dubbed? Watching anime in subbed for me is better because they impose and enforce "feelings" into the statements that they are portraying. |
Veredin said: Mamster-P said: anime are by definition cartoons..... they're just Japanese cartoons..... anyway..... so what if people don't like it? then just talk to the people that do about it.... Pretty much the best advice that can be given. If you're wondering WHY people think this way its because we as humans are diverse individuals with a multitude of opinion. If you disagree then take the advice stated above. people care way too much what others think, if they didn't people wouldn't make blogs like "is it bad if i?" "is it ok if i?" "should i?" its like.... can you just fucking decide for yourself lol? |
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Mamster-P said: Veredin said: Pretty much the best advice that can be given. If you're wondering WHY people think this way its because we as humans are diverse individuals with a multitude of opinion. If you disagree then take the advice stated above. people care way too much what others think, if they didn't people wouldn't make blogs like "is it bad if i?" "is it ok if i?" "should i?" its like.... can you just fucking decide for yourself lol? Pretty much. I understand the need to be accepted by your peers but it becomes ridiculous at some point. |
| @Veredin i do like to have other peoples opinions, i do that all the time, and its part of the reason im here... but that's more to find the other people like me... and having another perspective can of course better things in ways you never thought they could but when you see the same arguments over and over against the things you like, that have never changed your opinion on it, its like, "OK guys we've heard your bullshit... now leave us alone" so yea... imo people should just stick to the things and people they like instead of thinking those things need to change to suit them |
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Mamster-P said: @Veredin i do like to have other peoples opinions, i do that all the time, and its part of the reason im here... but that's more to find the other people like me... and having another perspective can of course better things in ways you never thought they could but when you see the same arguments over and over against the things you like, that have never changed your opinion on it, its like, "OK guys we've heard your bullshit... now leave us alone" so yea... imo people should just stick to the things and people they like instead of thinking those things need to change to suit them QFT. It makes it difficult though when there's not standardized threads for these specific problems. Sure MAL stays active but the quality of its content lowers drastically. |
Kuma said: ehh another 'anime is for adult and cartoon is for children' derailed thread No it's not, it's an "anime is garbage, but I love cartoons" thread. |
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DarkAngel1221 said: Whatever people say, eastern Anime have better stories than western which is for children. Wrooong. Give me an anime with a better story than Steven Universe, then. I think it's very unlikely. Both mediums are equally good imo. I've seen good and bad from both. Cartoons might me aimed at children, but the adults behind them are aware there is a growing adult fanbase of Western cartoons and this doesn't stop it from dealing with complex themes and stuff (kids just do not understand). |
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| Those people are most likely those who think anime is only hentai and ecchi shows. |
DrGeroCreation said: I've never heard that in my life . It's usually the other way around. this cracked me up; I agree, theres typically a lot more depth in story and character in anime than Western [tv] animation |
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DrGeroCreation said: Bruh you just have thing for girls in hero suits lol.flannan said: DC superhero cartoons are far more realistic looking because the characters have actual noses , lips and more normal eyes. I find animated DC superheroines to be far more attractive than anime girls even though there are anime girls I find attractive. However I don't think looking realistic has anything to do with attraction considering a lot of fans like moe girl characters who look extremely unrealistic with super huge eyes and blobby faces.From my experience with western cartoons, anime characters are a lot more likely to look realistic enough to be attractive. |
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| From the very beginning I never liked cartoons... i just watched em cuz i was bored and wanted to just relax after coming home from school on TV.. too but then i found good cartoons that i liked and all then i started to like cartoons more [only the ones i prefer to watch that was going on tv... like martin mystery. avatar the last airbender etc. and i would watch spongbob once in a while.] then i met a new Friend he showed me dragon ball gt.. and my anime life begun i met plenty of people [[[[[[all of them from inside online games and skype and stuff loll to scared to have real life conversations about cartoons or anime ]]]]] who disliked anime... mostly becuz its language they cant understand blabla bla and not know theres english dubs... and cuz they think its childish and think its cartoons..... i also met people who liked cartoons like spongbob A LOTTT more than anime [srsly] so yeah ..am pretty sure theres anime like that ..but like some of the users above said... they dont want to leave there confort zones to try out new things sorry for my english .-. |
TheDiabolicEsperMar 18, 2016 1:50 AM
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| What are "Cartoons" can anybody explain me what it is? Seriously, cartoons are animation mostly animals as characters or that got only 4 fingers. Or those shows made for Grade Schoolers. Or for kids in general. Like Tom and Gerry, Mickey Mouse, Sponge bob, etc. And I really hate it when people saw me watching DC Comics and Marvel Comics animated series. Then says "You are already old, And still watching Cartoons?" Damn it, I always wanted to punch them on the face! |
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Duatizer said: Anime is cartoon with better graphics? Really slick comparison xD. I'm also a cartoon watcher, there are some differences, 1. Art 2. Story progress (it feels somewhat different) 3. Cartoon is limited (Not too much gore and almost no ecchi for example) 4. Characterization (in cartoons I don't see a lot of psychos like Gasai Yuno ,lol) So why do people like cartoons? Because every human has their own preferences ;P. What you like is subjective. + ATLA and Jackie Chan shit was pretty cool. Don't forget that there are also good cartoons out there ^__^. A lot of SOL anime like Azumanga and Galaxy Angel share similarities with Western cartoons - following the life of a silly cast. Western cartoons tend to be big on child-friendly content, so don't expect a lot of violence or sexuality. They also tend to be more episodic. I don't think one is better than the other. There is a wildness of Western cartoon, a freedom that the minimalist art gives them that anime lacks sometimes. |
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starlessn1ght said: Sorry, I don't even know that cartoon, and I don't have the interest of knowing it further. Also, if you think that it's great, then it's great (only for you). That's only one out of many though. And good anime aren't only about superheroes, there are plenty of Romace anime that could beat that genre.DarkAngel1221 said: Whatever people say, eastern Anime have better stories than western which is for children. Wrooong. Give me an anime with a better story than Steven Universe, then. I think it's very unlikely. Both mediums are equally good imo. I've seen good and bad from both. Cartoons might me aimed at children, but the adults behind them are aware there is a growing adult fanbase of Western cartoons and this doesn't stop it from dealing with complex themes and stuff (kids just do not understand). You can say only one, but I could say plenty. Boku Dake ga Inai Machi (Best Mystery anime of Winter 2016) Akatsuki no Yona Fate/Zero Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works 2014 Code Geass Magi Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Ghost Hunt Haikyuu!! Kuroko no Basket Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! Kuroshitsuji Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Nanatsu no Taizai Psycho Pass Shokugeki no Souma Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri Durarara!! Dimension W Akagami no Shirayuki-hime Ajin Shingeki no Kyoujin Natsume Yuujichou And many more... =P Good upcoming Spring anime for me. Bungou Stary Dogs Magi: Sinbad no Bouken |
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DarkAngel1221 said: Sorry, I don't even know that cartoon, and I don't have the interest of knowing it further. Also, if you think that it's great, then it's great (only for you). That's only one out of many though. And good anime aren't only about superheroes, there are plenty of Romace anime that could beat that genre. You can say only one, but I could say plenty. Boku Dake ga Inai Machi (Best Mystery anime of Winter 2016) Akatsuki no Yona Fate/Zero Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works 2014 Code Geass Magi Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Ghost Hunt Haikyuu!! Kuroko no Basket Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! Kuroshitsuji Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Nanatsu no Taizai Psycho Pass Shokugeki no Souma Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri Durarara!! Dimension W Akagami no Shirayuki-hime Ajin Shingeki no Kyoujin Natsume Yuujichou And many more... =P Good upcoming Spring anime for me. Bungou Stary Dogs Magi: Sinbad no Bouken Of those, I'm only familiar with Haikyuu and Shokugeki no Souma (read the manga for this one). And I can honestly say they are nowhere near Steven Universe's greatness. Actually, the first episodes of the SnS anime are inferior to the manga, because it exaggerates the comedy way too much. Also, I dunno about the anime, but the Shingeki no Kyojin manga is really bad, I dropped it. I'm saying one, because that's the one that is most worth mentioning imo, but there's others as well that are very good: Wander over Yonder, We Bare Bears, Svtfoe, Gargoyles... I can't say much because I haven't watched that many cartoons, nor have I watched that many anime (in fact, I've watched more anime than cartoons) And look, I'm not trying to say cartoons>anime, just that they have the same potential. If you have a prejudice against cartoons, you'll be missing lots of good things. When I saw SU for the first time, I thought it was bad or bland and boring, and that kinda kept on until I passed the 25th episode. Then, it took a 180 degree turn, using those first 25 episodes as a build up, and practically keeping its quality consistent since then. Now it's one of the best pieces of fiction I've seen in my life. |
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| I've never really met anyone who says that. The people I know mostly watch live-action shows. I like and watch both western animation and anime. But, I like anime more so. |
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Maylis said: I'm sorry but this confuses me. SOOOOO many people that I have met, have said that they hate anime. They say they don't see the point in it and think it's stupid. But then they love cartoons like fairy god parents. How the hell? Anime is pretty much cartoons but we better graphics! What do you guys think? If you understand why people say this, please explain it to me ;-; people that like cartoons don't want to watch anime because of language and violence as well as sexualized themes but you won't find them on MAL so we are safe from those kinds of people. |
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