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Feb 3, 2016 9:44 PM
#1
Let's talk about something that doesn't often get talked about in these forums which is sexist anime characters. Not too long ago I re-watched Fate/Zero, and though I still love the series very much I found Gilgamesh to be extremely sexist, funny but sexist. I re-watched that one scene where Gilgamesh is proposing to Saber while throwing swords at her, he tells her to lay down her sword and become his bride and when she refuses he literally throws more swords at her saying that he never asked for her opinion and she will do as he says. Very awesome/funny scene and yet so sexist. So other than that which anime characters do you think are sexist? |
ya_halloFeb 3, 2016 10:03 PM
Feb 3, 2016 9:45 PM
#2
Feb 3, 2016 9:47 PM
#3
ya_hallo said: Let's talk about something that doesn't often get talked about in these forums which is sexist anime characters. Not too long ago I re-watched Fate/Zero, and though I still love the series very much I found Gilgamesh to be extremely sexist, funny but sexist. I re-watched that one scene where Gilgamesh is proposing to Saber while throwing swords at her, he tells her to lay down her sword and become his bride and when she refuses he literally throws more swords at her saying that he never asked for her opinion and she will do as he says. Very awesome/funny scene and yet so sexist. So other than that which anime characters do you think are sexist? Is this a bait thread? I honestly can't tell. |
Feb 3, 2016 9:50 PM
#4
TitanAnteus said: ya_hallo said: Let's talk about something that doesn't often get talked about in these forums which is sexist anime characters. Not too long ago I re-watched Fate/Zero, and though I still love the series very much I found Gilgamesh to be extremely sexist, funny but sexist. I re-watched that one scene where Gilgamesh is proposing to Saber while throwing swords at her, he tells her to lay down her sword and become his bride and when she refuses he literally throws more swords at her saying that he never asked for her opinion and she will do as he says. Very awesome/funny scene and yet so sexist. So other than that which anime characters do you think are sexist? Is this a bait thread? Nope. I'm afraid it's not. Sorry. =) |
Feb 3, 2016 9:50 PM
#5
First off, I'm just gonna say that you have probably opened pandora's box with this thread. And secondly, that's just Gilgamesh's character. He's just a straight up dick to everyone he meets. I think there's only 3 times where I've seen him be nice to someone. Personally, I don't think I've ever seen an anime be sexist when it wasn't trying to be. I mean sure there's ecchi and some comedy anime that use sexist jokes but I don't ever see that as a problem. |
amk_2397Feb 3, 2016 9:57 PM
Feb 3, 2016 10:01 PM
#6
amk_2397 said: First off, I'm just gonna say that you have probably opened pandora's box with this thread. And secondly, that's just Gilgamesh's character. He's just a straight up dick to everyone he meets. I think there's only 3 times where I've seen him be nice to someone. Personally, I don't think I've ever seen an anime be sexist when it wasn't trying to be. I mean sure there's ecchi and some comedy anime that use sexist jokes but I don't ever see that as a problem. Pandora's box? Do you mean the Holy Grail? =) LOLOLOLOL. |
Feb 3, 2016 10:04 PM
#7
ya_hallo said: Fuck how did I not think of that. Well playedamk_2397 said: First off, I'm just gonna say that you have probably opened pandora's box with this thread. And secondly, that's just Gilgamesh's character. He's just a straight up dick to everyone he meets. I think there's only 3 times where I've seen him be nice to someone. Personally, I don't think I've ever seen an anime be sexist when it wasn't trying to be. I mean sure there's ecchi and some comedy anime that use sexist jokes but I don't ever see that as a problem. Pandora's box? Do you mean the Holy Grail? =) LOLOLOLOL. |
Feb 3, 2016 10:11 PM
#8
Hahahahahahahahah.......Mikasa. |
NasalShark said: I'd love to squeeze your nipples until they look like a purple slushie, Senpai. |
Feb 3, 2016 10:12 PM
#9
Well, Gilgamesh is based on a half-human half-god criature from a civilization 3000+ years old, and he was a king, you expect him to be nice and protect the women rights? Also, Shirou from Stay Night is sexist, he says he dont want Saber to fight because she is a girl and too cute for that... |
Feb 3, 2016 10:15 PM
#10
-Senpai- said: Haha I was waiting to see if anyone mentioned that user's argument.Hahahahahahahahah.......Mikasa. |
Feb 3, 2016 10:22 PM
#11
Gilgamesh isn't a sexist, OP. If anything he's a people-ist. FCT77 said: Also, Shirou from Stay Night is sexist, he says he dont want Saber to fight because she is a girl and too cute for that... Oh come on. She was about to fight something that looked like a big foot pumping with magical energy. |
Feb 3, 2016 10:48 PM
#12
FCT77 said: Also, Shirou from Stay Night is sexist, he says he dont want Saber to fight because she is a girl and too cute for that... Bait intensifies. 30charactersrule |
Feb 3, 2016 11:07 PM
#13
If you're actually looking for a meaningful discussion about sexism in anime, I don't think it's such a good idea to illustrate a meme as one of your prime example. Just putting that out there... |
Feb 3, 2016 11:09 PM
#14
xenovibe said: If you're actually looking for a meaningful discussion about sexism in anime, I don't think it's such a good idea to illustrate a meme as one of your prime example. Just putting that out there... In general, there won't be a maningful discussion about sexism because of certain people who are extremely feminist and thinks if a woman falls = sexist. |
Feb 4, 2016 12:12 AM
#15
Gilgamesh isn't sexist, he just has a different moral code than the rest of us (is what have being an spirit of 3000 years). Shirou isn't sexist too, that was just DEEN screwing things. |
Feb 4, 2016 12:16 AM
#16
Soon, this thread will become a baiting den. inb4 "it already is" |
Feb 4, 2016 12:47 AM
#17
Gilgamesh is just a complete dick in general, it's not limited to sexism. |
Feb 4, 2016 1:19 AM
#18
Gilgamesh is everything bad you could think of. Also This fucker right here. |
Feb 4, 2016 1:29 AM
#19
Sooooo....this is just another Fate thread... Gil hates everyone OP...he's one of the most narcissistic characters of all time. Rin still best girl BTW... |
Feb 4, 2016 1:34 AM
#20
http://myanimelist.net/character/97761/Jibril probs some other chicks i'm forgetting but i thought Jibril's character design looked nice :D |
Feb 4, 2016 2:03 AM
#21
-Senpai- said: Hahahahahahahahah.......Mikasa. Can't tell if you're being serious or spoofing this certain other user. OT: Shirou, Sakura, basically the whole cast of SAO.. |
Feb 4, 2016 2:05 AM
#22
A discussion about sexism, is this MAL or Buzzfeed? |
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Feb 4, 2016 2:28 AM
#23
Shigatsu and Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan are both anime that are full of misandristic women that like to abuse the MC just 4 da lulz (Shigatsu is also hypocritical because it expects us to feel bad for the MC when his mother beats him up but at the same time we're supposed to laugh when that blonde idiot and the childhood friend abuse him just as much) As for misogynistic anime... well there's Mitsu x Mitsu Drops where the female MC is verbally and sexually abused by a bunch of idiots 25/7 (but it's ok because they are hot xD) and Fate/Zero because of Saber and the way she was written and the other characters treated her - it actually made me yell at the computer screen a couple of times because of how sexist it was (then again Urobutcher is a known misogynist so it didn't exactly surprise me) |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Feb 4, 2016 2:33 AM
#24
Comic_Sans said: Shigatsu and Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan are both anime that are full of misandristic women that like to abuse the MC just 4 da lulz (Shigatsu is also hypocritical because it expects us to feel bad for the MC when his mother beats him up but at the same time we're supposed to laugh when that blonde idiot and the childhood friend abuse him just as much) As for misogynistic anime... well there's Mitsu x Mitsu Drops where the female MC is verbally and sexually abused by a bunch of idiots 25/7 (but it's ok because they are hot xD) and Fate/Zero because of Saber and the way she was written and the other characters treated her - it actually made me yell at the computer screen a couple of times because of how sexist it was (then again Urobutcher is a known misogynist so it didn't exactly surprise me) the bait is strong in this...really strong....waiting for someone to take it |
Feb 4, 2016 2:36 AM
#25
ultravigo said: "Bait"? What bait? OP asked us to list a couple of sexist anime characters and explain why we thought they were sexist and I answered his questionComic_Sans said: Shigatsu and Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan are both anime that are full of misandristic women that like to abuse the MC just 4 da lulz (Shigatsu is also hypocritical because it expects us to feel bad for the MC when his mother beats him up but at the same time we're supposed to laugh when that blonde idiot and the childhood friend abuse him just as much) As for misogynistic anime... well there's Mitsu x Mitsu Drops where the female MC is verbally and sexually abused by a bunch of idiots 25/7 (but it's ok because they are hot xD) and Fate/Zero because of Saber and the way she was written and the other characters treated her - it actually made me yell at the computer screen a couple of times because of how sexist it was (then again Urobutcher is a known misogynist so it didn't exactly surprise me) the bait is strong in this...really strong....waiting for someone to take it Different opinion ≠ bait |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Feb 4, 2016 2:50 AM
#26
Comic_Sans said: ultravigo said: "Bait"? What bait? OP asked us to list a couple of sexist anime characters and explain why we thought they were sexist and I answered his questionComic_Sans said: Shigatsu and Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan are both anime that are full of misandristic women that like to abuse the MC just 4 da lulz (Shigatsu is also hypocritical because it expects us to feel bad for the MC when his mother beats him up but at the same time we're supposed to laugh when that blonde idiot and the childhood friend abuse him just as much) As for misogynistic anime... well there's Mitsu x Mitsu Drops where the female MC is verbally and sexually abused by a bunch of idiots 25/7 (but it's ok because they are hot xD) and Fate/Zero because of Saber and the way she was written and the other characters treated her - it actually made me yell at the computer screen a couple of times because of how sexist it was (then again Urobutcher is a known misogynist so it didn't exactly surprise me) the bait is strong in this...really strong....waiting for someone to take it Different opinion ≠ bait you know comic san is always right...ALWAYS...forgive this puny human |
Feb 4, 2016 2:57 AM
#27
lets not forget what most sexist anime ever i watch is actually targetted for woman. "diabolic lovers". dropped instantly in second episode. already forgotten which scane that break my patience. |
Feb 4, 2016 3:13 AM
#28
Every non-feminine female character. |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
Feb 4, 2016 3:19 AM
#29
Inferno cop is a sexist. He is even a sexist to his own oriented gender. He is an enemy of the PCs in the first place |
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Feb 4, 2016 4:03 AM
#30
katsaroulhs said: Every non-feminine female character. The topic is called "sexist anime characters" (meaning "anime characters who let other people's sex/gender and their preconceptions of that sex/gender cloud their judgement", not "sexiest anime characters" (meaning "most sexy anime characters"). Illyricus said: Gilgamesh isn't sexist, he just has a different moral code than the rest of us (is what have being an spirit of 3000 years). Shirou isn't sexist too, that was just DEEN screwing things. Gilgamesh is just sexist among other bad things he is. Sure, in his culture 3000 years ago everyone might have been sexist, but that doesn't excuse him - all the other heroes come from bad times too, but aren't as bad as him. Shirou probably just didn't want Saber to risk her life (because he always prefers to risk his own, being the crazy suicidal hero he is) and used sexist rhetoric only to justify his conclusion. |
Feb 4, 2016 4:11 AM
#31
flannan said: katsaroulhs said: Every non-feminine female character. The topic is called "sexist anime characters" (meaning "anime characters who let other people's sex/gender and their preconceptions of that sex/gender cloud their judgement", not "sexiest anime characters" (meaning "most sexy anime characters"). Thanks for the lesson. Almost every non-feminine female character acts like a man hating feminist. Therefore, sexist. |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
Feb 4, 2016 4:29 AM
#32
katsaroulhs said: flannan said: katsaroulhs said: Every non-feminine female character. The topic is called "sexist anime characters" (meaning "anime characters who let other people's sex/gender and their preconceptions of that sex/gender cloud their judgement", not "sexiest anime characters" (meaning "most sexy anime characters"). Thanks for the lesson. Almost every non-feminine female character acts like a man hating feminist. Therefore, sexist. Thanks, I understand you now. I disagree, and can give you some counter-examples, if you want. |
Feb 4, 2016 4:33 AM
#33
Well I said almost. Plus "non-feminine" can be considered subjective I guess. |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
Feb 4, 2016 4:43 AM
#34
flannan said: Illyricus said: Gilgamesh isn't sexist, he just has a different moral code than the rest of us (is what have being an spirit of 3000 years). Shirou isn't sexist too, that was just DEEN screwing things. Gilgamesh is just sexist among other bad things he is. No, he wasn't sexist he just treats other as mongrels. In his eyes he's a king his words doesn't need other people's opinion, that was applying to everyone not just female. |
Feb 4, 2016 4:58 AM
#35
Every reverse harem and smut shoujos....abuse is okay cause they're hot. And there's one manga whose name I forgot, where its even worse. And Shigatsu like Comic_Sans said. that anime pissed me off, especially the blonde b1tch... |
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Feb 4, 2016 5:21 AM
#37
Whoops, thought sexist was sexiest *silently leaves thread* |
Feb 4, 2016 5:23 AM
#38
Feb 4, 2016 5:24 AM
#39
From what I've seen of Gilgamesh, it isn't that he's sexist so much that he just hates everyone and thinks everyone, regarldess of gender is beneath him. Sexist, not sexiest ^^ |
MazFeb 4, 2016 10:42 AM
It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether! It's an entirely different kind of flying. |
Feb 4, 2016 5:25 AM
#40
ItsMaz said: Well, I misread something, still hot though xDFrom what I've seen of Gilgamesh, it isn't that he's sexist so much that he just hates everyone and thinks everyone, regarldess of gender is beneath him. Sexist, not sexiest ^^ |
Feb 4, 2016 5:27 AM
#41
Milk_is_Special said: ItsMaz said: Well, I misread something, still hot though xDFrom what I've seen of Gilgamesh, it isn't that he's sexist so much that he just hates everyone and thinks everyone, regarldess of gender is beneath him. Sexist, not sexiest ^^ It's spiced this thread up though :P Can't go wrong with a bit of Akeno |
It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether! It's an entirely different kind of flying. |
Feb 4, 2016 5:47 AM
#42
ItsMaz said: I'm just waiting for someone to call this sexist. I mean the bait is right there for the taking.Milk_is_Special said: ItsMaz said: From what I've seen of Gilgamesh, it isn't that he's sexist so much that he just hates everyone and thinks everyone, regarldess of gender is beneath him. Sexist, not sexiest ^^ It's spiced this thread up though :P Can't go wrong with a bit of Akeno |
Feb 4, 2016 5:48 AM
#43
amk_2397 said: Eh, I would not be surprised if someone did, but then they would be missing something very important.ItsMaz said: I'm just waiting for someone to call this sexist. I mean the bait is right there for the taking.Milk_is_Special said: ItsMaz said: Well, I misread something, still hot though xDFrom what I've seen of Gilgamesh, it isn't that he's sexist so much that he just hates everyone and thinks everyone, regarldess of gender is beneath him. Sexist, not sexiest ^^ It's spiced this thread up though :P Can't go wrong with a bit of Akeno And I wish people would use spoiler tags for massive, page-elongating pictures. |
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
Feb 4, 2016 5:52 AM
#44
ItsMaz said: From what I've seen of Gilgamesh, it isn't that he's sexist so much that he just hates everyone and thinks everyone, regarldess of gender is beneath him. Sexist, not sexiest ^^ i second that... ALSO THAT ASS!!!!! |
Feb 4, 2016 6:18 AM
#45
Comic_Sans said: Fate/Zero because of Saber and the way she was written and the other characters treated her - it actually made me yell at the computer screen a couple of times because of how sexist it was (then again Urobutcher is a known misogynist so it didn't exactly surprise me) I don't get it...how is that sexist? |
Feb 4, 2016 6:21 AM
#46
ItsMaz said: Milk_is_Special said: ItsMaz said: From what I've seen of Gilgamesh, it isn't that he's sexist so much that he just hates everyone and thinks everyone, regarldess of gender is beneath him. Sexist, not sexiest ^^ It's spiced this thread up though :P Can't go wrong with a bit of Akeno can never go wrong with that BOOTY... |
Feb 4, 2016 6:33 AM
#47
AltoRoark99 said: *Saber is summoned*Comic_Sans said: Fate/Zero because of Saber and the way she was written and the other characters treated her - it actually made me yell at the computer screen a couple of times because of how sexist it was (then again Urobutcher is a known misogynist so it didn't exactly surprise me) I don't get it...how is that sexist? Everybody be like "OMG SO COOL THE REINCARNATION OF KING ARTHUR" *Saber makes a minor mistake* Everybody be like "BOOH IT'S CAUSE YOU'RE A WORTHLESS AND WEAK WOMYN FATE/STAY KITCHEN BITCH GO PLAY WITH YOUR DOLLS" And Saber be like "Yeah maybe it's cuz I'm a weak womyn that I make mistakes, I better question my ideals nao because some douches told me I'm worthless because I've got a vag" instead of woman'ing up and telling them to STFU Sex doesn't mean shit and imma do what I want |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Feb 4, 2016 6:36 AM
#48
AltoRoark99 said: Yeah I'm actually confused by this too. The only character I can recall who legitimately talked shit to Saber was Gilgamesh. Lancer and Caster both respected her for their own reasons. Assassin was... there. Berserker hated Saber for reasons that were definitely not sexist. I do remember Rider saying that he didn't acknowledge Saber's ideals as a king or something like that but that wasn't for sexist reasons. Were there characters who weren't Servants that thought less of Saber because she was a woman?Comic_Sans said: Fate/Zero because of Saber and the way she was written and the other characters treated her - it actually made me yell at the computer screen a couple of times because of how sexist it was (then again Urobutcher is a known misogynist so it didn't exactly surprise me) I don't get it...how is that sexist? Also since nobody else has mentioned it I will. SAO is sexist. |
amk_2397Feb 4, 2016 6:44 AM
Feb 4, 2016 6:37 AM
#49
Comic_Sans said: AltoRoark99 said: *Saber is summoned*Comic_Sans said: Fate/Zero because of Saber and the way she was written and the other characters treated her - it actually made me yell at the computer screen a couple of times because of how sexist it was (then again Urobutcher is a known misogynist so it didn't exactly surprise me) I don't get it...how is that sexist? Everybody be like "OMG SO COOL THE REINCARNATION OF KING ARTHUR" *Saber makes a minor mistake* Everybody be like "BOOH IT'S CAUSE YOU'RE A WORTHLESS AND WEAK WOMYN FATE/STAY KITCHEN BITCH GO PLAY WITH YOUR DOLLS" And Saber be like "Yeah maybe it's cuz I'm a weak womyn that I make mistakes, I better question my ideals nao because some douches told me I'm worthless because I've got a vag" instead of woman'ing up and telling them to STFU Sex doesn't mean shit and imma do what I want When exactly did that happen? I haven't watched F/Z in a while so you'll need to refresh my memory on that. |
Feb 4, 2016 6:39 AM
#50
AltoRoark99 said: I'm not sure but I think it was in episode 8 or 9Comic_Sans said: AltoRoark99 said: Comic_Sans said: Fate/Zero because of Saber and the way she was written and the other characters treated her - it actually made me yell at the computer screen a couple of times because of how sexist it was (then again Urobutcher is a known misogynist so it didn't exactly surprise me) I don't get it...how is that sexist? Everybody be like "OMG SO COOL THE REINCARNATION OF KING ARTHUR" *Saber makes a minor mistake* Everybody be like "BOOH IT'S CAUSE YOU'RE A WORTHLESS AND WEAK WOMYN FATE/STAY KITCHEN BITCH GO PLAY WITH YOUR DOLLS" And Saber be like "Yeah maybe it's cuz I'm a weak womyn that I make mistakes, I better question my ideals nao because some douches told me I'm worthless because I've got a vag" instead of woman'ing up and telling them to STFU Sex doesn't mean shit and imma do what I want When exactly did that happen? I haven't watched F/Z in a while so you'll need to refresh my memory on that. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
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