| Have you ever had political or religious stances interfere with personal relationships of yours with friends or lovers? Do you think these sort of things are damaging to peoples relations and should just be done away with? What is the best way around this sort of thing without having to hide your feelings and opinions entirely or is that the only way? Can people of different strongly held beliefs really stay together? I don't want to get into it but I had a friend get really upset at me and started acting like I was attacking her beliefs for a small joking comment I made because I mistakenly thought her parents were pushing some religious stuff on her that she did not want. She had in the past told me shes an atheist but she took major offence and kept trying to change the topic while I was just trying to clear up I was not criticising her. so I guess she changed her views or something without telling me. My mom actually had her sister not speak to her for a few years because she did some political campaigning and she was mad as can be over it and disowned her. I think they are talking again but it is pretty fucked up it lasted so long. |
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| Politics are important for the country and daily life, religion is not imo, without religion the world would be much more of a peaceful place. |
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| Not really because all of my close friends are Atheist but have religious families (like me) and so we never offend each other with that kind of stuff. We never really talk about politics but we have pretty much the same ideas. I don't get into that kinda stuff with my family though. |
| Those are pretty tight subjects Mostly since people are waaay to attached to what they believe in . Politics and Religion are very very touchy , especially Religion. Mix that with the fact that commonly , people get super offended by the most irrelevant stuff . When it comes to people that you have relations with , such as family and friends , it gets complicated if your personalities conflict . Also some people are just so hot headed that refuse to hear reasons. But it causes mostly controversy , especially if its Tradition vs Actual ideas. The only way to solve , is talk it up , otherwise give it time since when the other side of the party refuses to solve things , it's their choice and you just need to keep approaching if you really want to make things work. If everything fails , you need to understand that you don't need to feel bad if the other person it's being terrible to you for that , and stay true to yourself. |
cyrograde said: I think those are two subjects that must absolutely be avoided with friends you want to keep. Maybe when you have a solid friendship, it would be okay to let it slip out accidentally but for the most part, it's a do not, do not, do not. Earlier last month, a friend had a near opposite view from me as far as politics are concerned and we were unintentionally getting under each others' skin. My heritage and birthright were being questioned and my views alone changed the way he looks at me, so it was something I definitely didn't want to touch on again. My message is: No religion, no politics, end of discussion! People who leave you based on your difference between opinions and personal views are not real friends , and are better evicted. Just saying. |
| These two subjects are the first things that you should discuss with a potential friend or a partner. If the differences are small, you can adjust; but if they're huge, the friendship or the relationship is, then, bound to collapse. Deserada said: an external response to introspection caused by exposure to another's values. And so you have to eliminate any intellectual dishonesty and act with high-mindedness if you want to keep the friendship intact. In fact, even in friendships where the differences aren't huge, stubbornness can cause damage. So it's good to always be malleable about your opinions. |
| Id say they are both useless garbage. |
| “Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, then it's not the end.” ― Ed Sheeran |
-Crestfallen- said: Ive had one friend that was fairly close with total opposite beliefs as me and we talked about this stuff without problem because she was smart enough she could discuss it with explanations of reasoning behind things.These two subjects are the first things that you should discuss with a potential friend or a partner. If the differences are small, you can adjust; but if they're huge, the friendship or the relationship is, then, bound to collapse. Deserada said: an external response to introspection caused by exposure to another's values. And so you have to eliminate any intellectual dishonesty and act with high-mindedness if you want to keep the friendship intact. In fact, even in friendships where the differences aren't huge, stubbornness can cause damage. So it's good to always be malleable about your opinions. |
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| Politics is a virus in every each of county.. there's no anti-virus for this so anyone can do nothing except just watch them argue each others until they die lel |
 "The harder you try to see the good in people the easier it is to fake you out." -Izaya Orihara |
Deserada said: -Crestfallen- said: "Open-minded", rather than "malleable", better describes what I find to be the ideal condition. Making decisions based on one's knowledge, but understanding that there is more to learn. That may be what you meant.And so you have to eliminate any intellectual dishonesty and act with high-mindedness if you want to keep the friendship intact. In fact, even in friendships where the differences aren't huge, stubbornness can cause damage. So it's good to always be malleable about your opinions. Yes, that seems close to it. It just so happens that in my life, open-mindedness oft turned into malleability; the explanations I was given of opinions contrasting to mine were soon embraced by me if they were logically sound. With time, I got so good at fitting the most logical assertions in my belief system that I really have no difficulties in being an Atheist for a day and then turning into a Muslim the other day. I do it to know what it would feel like to be someone else but of course I'm always going to be biased about that. Regardless, with open-mindedness, I have made more friends than I'd imagined. And most of those friends wield opinions entirely different from mine. |
| both can affect personal relationships. I don't talk either with anybody |
| A well balanced persoality allows you to not letting personal opinions interfere with how you treat people. I do not see my acquaintances as liberals or conservatives but as individuals |
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| Not really, my friends just agree to disagree, simple as that. It's incredible what kind of different people can get along when neither of the parties are assholes. |
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| I don't like to bring up those topics in front of family or friends and I'd rather not make my own domicile an awkward place to live in. Especially since my dad and I are complete opposites in politics and faith. |
| Besides the occasional left-winged SJW coming up to me and yelling for no apparent reason, not really. |
| Nope not really. My friends have different views and I have no trouble with our relationship. As long as they aren't assholes, it's all good. |
ZA_WAYDJan 9, 2016 2:21 AM
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| I choose to keep my religion to myself in real life, not even my family know. Politics I don't care what people think when it comes to my opinions. Mainly my belief causes internal conflicts. |
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cyrograde said: ^That friend I mentioned isn't big on politics, but he still has his own set of ideals. In fact, I was the radical one. I admitted that my comments were getting out of hand and I stopped talking about it. He's sort of a blue pill muncher, but I pushed a button... NEVER discuss politics with blue bill munchers, just keep them around for the fun man :/ And its ok, i get how political views can be radical some times. |
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traed said: -Crestfallen- said: Ive had one friend that was fairly close with total opposite beliefs as me and we talked about this stuff without problem because she was smart enough she could discuss it with explanations of reasoning behind things.These two subjects are the first things that you should discuss with a potential friend or a partner. If the differences are small, you can adjust; but if they're huge, the friendship or the relationship is, then, bound to collapse. And so you have to eliminate any intellectual dishonesty and act with high-mindedness if you want to keep the friendship intact. In fact, even in friendships where the differences aren't huge, stubbornness can cause damage. So it's good to always be malleable about your opinions. Yeah I don't see it as always being a do or die type of circumstance. It depends on the people. |
| Yeah. One of my good friends is religious, which is fine. But they believe people can actually make deals with the devil in a non-metaphoric sense and that is a sticking point to me because it approaches realm of actual interference. So we argue sometimes. More overtly I've gotten in arguments with people over racism or various things |
Mayuka said: did you call holier than thou bitch right here last.fm |
| I clashed with my exes often because the girls I dated identified themselves as liberal Democrats, and I have a tendency to lean towards more conservative and Republican views, even though I see myself as a moderate. One of my exes complained about the need for a military and talked about why North Korea or Iran don't need to go to war (or plan to) with the U.S. On one hand, she didn't know THAT much about the world, but I let it go, even though I wholeheartedly disagreed. |
| Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit. |
| I won't talk politics or religion with people because I don't like to argue about pointless matters. Chances are 90% of the people who talk to me either wouldn't give a flying fox what I have to say about those type of matters. And I really don't need to get into an argument about why i should believe something else because of whats written in a book or what someone else says. And I'm not here to convert people into my beliefs either. |
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