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Is Japan open to different sexual orientation? (Gay, lesbian etc). Just curious.

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Nov 6, 2015 11:50 PM
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YOOOO! (moo!) I'm just curious if it's common to see gay couples in Japan or if Japan supports it.
Nov 6, 2015 11:51 PM
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Not as much as the abundance of yaoi and yuri would have you believe.
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In short? No. They're getting better (Shibuya allows same-sex marriage but they only passed the bill a few months ago) but it's still shunned upon. Simply because it's seen as being different, and Japan doesn't like different.

You're also probably not gonna see any gay couples because any kind of public displays of affection (even holding hands) is another thing they're not keen on.

That's not to say there aren't gay couples in Japan, because there most definitely are, but it's one of those things they keep to themselves. Especially considering Japan isn't very open (heh) about relationships in general anyway.
Nov 6, 2015 11:59 PM
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Nov 7, 2015 12:41 AM
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Japan is generally conservative.
Nov 7, 2015 12:56 AM
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Zazie122 said:
In short? No. They're getting better (Shibuya allows same-sex marriage but they only passed the bill a few months ago) but it's still shunned upon. Simply because it's seen as being different, and Japan doesn't like different.

You're also probably not gonna see any gay couples because any kind of public displays of affection (even holding hands) is another thing they're not keen on.

That's not to say there aren't gay couples in Japan, because there most definitely are, but it's one of those things they keep to themselves. Especially considering Japan isn't very open (heh) about relationships in general anyway.



the us has only made it leagal nation wide recently right
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Nov 7, 2015 1:51 AM
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CGtheOtakuCow13 said:
DateYutaka said:

the us has only made it leagal nation wide recently right


Yup. The US is the first and only country to legalize gay (same-sex) marriage. I hope other countries follow along and do the same thing.

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Nov 7, 2015 1:53 AM
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CGtheOtakuCow13 said:
DateYutaka said:

the us has only made it leagal nation wide recently right


Yup. The US is the first and only country to legalize gay (same-sex) marriage. I hope other countries follow along and do the same thing.

I'm sure you're just trolling but there are 20 countries where gay marriage is legal. Not just talking civil unions here, either.
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CGtheOtakuCow13 said:
DateYutaka said:

the us has only made it leagal nation wide recently right


Yup. The US is the first and only country to legalize gay (same-sex) marriage. I hope other countries follow along and do the same thing.


wikipedia said:

The first law providing for marriage of people of the same sex in modern times was enacted in 2001 in the Netherlands.

Nov 7, 2015 2:02 AM

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Crap I take everything back XD!
Nov 7, 2015 2:12 AM

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mayukachan said:
CGtheOtakuCow13 said:


Yup. The US is the first and only country to legalize gay (same-sex) marriage. I hope other countries follow along and do the same thing.

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ROFL.
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Nov 7, 2015 2:15 AM

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jambutters said:
mayukachan said:

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ROFL.


Agreed. The Netherlands was the first country.
Nov 7, 2015 2:16 AM

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EminemVEVO said:
jambutters said:

ROFL.


Agreed. The Netherlands was the first country.
I wasn't implying Canada was the first, but okay.
Nov 7, 2015 2:21 AM

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mayukachan said:
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Agreed. The Netherlands was the first country.
I wasn't implying Canada was the first, but okay.


Don't lie to me.
Nov 7, 2015 2:22 AM

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mayukachan said:
EminemVEVO said:


Agreed. The Netherlands was the first country.
I wasn't implying Canada was the first, but okay.

lol I wasn't implying that either. It was just funny how he thought the U.S was the only country or so that allowed gay marriage. I imagined a stereotypical Canadian saying "you forgot aboot us eh?" because everyone forgets about canada.
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EminemVEVO said:
Don't lie to me.
I was pointing out that other countries did it before USA, which is true. I know we did it later than other countries.

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lol I wasn't implying that either. It was just funny how he thought the U.S was the only country or so that allowed gay marriage. I imagined a stereotypical Canadian saying "you forgot aboot us eh?" because everyone forgets about canada.
haha true :-)
Nov 7, 2015 2:26 AM

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There is a LOT of gay propaganda creeping into mainstream anime these days and it needs to be stomped on. Japan already has a crises of low birthrate and declining moral standards. They don't want to go down the sewer with Northern European nations. They need their own personal Putin. Someone to hear their prayers, someone to care
Nov 7, 2015 2:36 AM

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jambutters said:
lol I wasn't implying that either. It was just funny how he thought the U.S was the only country or so that allowed gay marriage. I imagined a stereotypical Canadian saying "you forgot aboot us eh?" because everyone forgets about canada.
haha true :-)[/quote]
:o googled that Canadians don't actually say "aboot" lol. Sorry, if I offended ya in some way.
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jambutters said:
googled that Canadians don't actually say "aboot" lol. Sorry, if I offended ya in some way.
It's 'kay. I'm used to it.
Nov 7, 2015 2:51 AM

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Juuuuuuust-- huh-- google it!!
Nov 7, 2015 2:54 AM

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generally conservative
but i guess futa is a thing
Nov 7, 2015 3:00 AM

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It's far more acceptable for teenagers and people in their 20's than it is to older people.

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any kind of public displays of affection (even holding hands) is another thing they're not keen on.

That wasn't what I saw when I was there. Couples in their 20's were holding hands all over the place.
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Nov 7, 2015 10:14 AM
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Nah.
Nov 7, 2015 10:22 AM

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Some prefectures have gay marriage but overall no.


Nov 7, 2015 10:27 AM

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There is a LOT of gay propaganda creeping into mainstream anime these days and it needs to be stomped on. Japan already has a crises of low birthrate and declining moral standards. They don't want to go down the sewer with Northern European nations. They need their own personal Putin. Someone to hear their prayers, someone to care


But muh yuri. (T-T)
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Nov 7, 2015 10:52 AM

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In Japan, especially in the media they try to hide homosexuality even if it's obvious, but they don't hide gay people. For example, if a girl is a lesbian (in anime/manga), the narrator or the character would usually say "she is not interested in men" instead of outright saying she is gay. Japanese society knows that homosexuality exists but they just simpy don't care about it. Compare it to America where the main cause of the problem is people making a big deal out of sexuality. A girl hugs another girl friend and ten thousand Tumblr activists will write a rant explaining how they must be gay. In Japan you can put gay characters in anime/manga, even if the narrator never actually states they are gay, while in America it's almost impossible to put a gay character into anything (except for material aimed at homosexuals) because people will make a huge deal out of it.

Japanese people really don't like public displays of affection even if it's a straight couple doing it. So obviously they wouldn't like homos doing it either.

Stuff about lesbians (yuri) is actually aimed at straight people. I seriously can't see anything like this happening in America. English/American TV shows with homosexuals being the focus are usually for homosexual people. Except if it's porn, but that's another story.

Similar to ancient Greece, historical Japan was also pretty open towards homosexuality.

Japan had three fields in particular where same-sex relationships were known, understood and accepted, even praised: the military, the clergy, and the theater. Japan's samurai class are well understood by historians to frequently practice pederasty between apprentices and masters. The philosophy was that the master was responsible for his adolescent charge in all things, from military skills to etiquette and honor. The clergy had a similar role. There is no moral opposition to homosexuality in Shinto, the native religion of Japan. Even in Buddhist temples, where sex was forbidden, it was sometimes loosely interpreted to mean sex between a man and a woman, therefore sex between two men was permissible. In kabuki theater, young actors, especially actors who played female roles (similar to Greece, troupes were typically all-male), were often the objects of desire by wealthy patrons. Male homosexual acts are littered throughout Japanese artwork and literature - even the famous The Tale of Genji, written a thousand years ago, has an instance where the male protagonist, Prince Genji, abandons courting an uninterested woman and instead sleeps with her younger brother.


The biggest problem regarding homosexuality in Japan is the strict family and gender roles. As a woman you are expected to marry a man and become a housewife. In Japan nobody will take into consideration that you could be gay so they will always ask "do you have a boyfriend?" if you are a girl and "have you find a girlfriend yet?" if you are a guy.

I'd say being gay in Japan could sometimes be better than being gay in the Western world. We like to make a big fuss about sexuality, making it a sensitive topic and many people get irritated with it. In Japan homosexuality is not a sensitive topic, in fact Japanese society doesn't really talk about it. Sure, they have their own LGBT activists, but their actions don't create large shitstorms like their American counterparts do.

Long story short the situation of homosexuals in Japan isn't as good as it is in Europe and America, but it's slowly getting better. Homosexuality really isn't a topic that's discussed daily simply because Japanese society tends to hide the things they don't want to talk about. But as a result, homosexuality isn't a sensitive topic (or at least not as sensitive as on the other side of the world), so Japanese people are not as hostile towards it as American/European conservatives. As far as I know neither Shinto nor Buddhism have anything against homosexuality so that's a good thing. Christianity is nowhere near as imporant as the other two religions so the "homosexuality is a sin" mentality doesn't exist among religious Japanese people. At best Japanese folk are hostile towards this topic because of the strict gender roles and because they are very conservative.

On another note, there is something interesting I noticed. Even though Christianity is pretty irrelevant in Japan, Christian schools are pretty popular in anime/manga. And for some reason Christian elite schools are popular settings of yuri/yaoi anime/manga. I'm not sure why but it's fun to think about.
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Azumaoru said:
FahtahSensei said:
There is a LOT of gay propaganda creeping into mainstream anime these days and it needs to be stomped on. Japan already has a crises of low birthrate and declining moral standards. They don't want to go down the sewer with Northern European nations. They need their own personal Putin. Someone to hear their prayers, someone to care


But muh yuri. (T-T)
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Nov 7, 2015 12:06 PM

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if anything MAL is worse, any jerkoff in a lgbt-friendly country that hates it can find reconciliation in an anime forum to express their distaste of other people's happiness

but yeah hopefully it gets better in Japan overtime tbh
Nov 7, 2015 2:13 PM
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Haven't been to Japan in a while (Last time 2010) but according to my cousins, no not really.


FahtahSensei said:
There is a LOT of gay propaganda creeping into mainstream anime these days and it needs to be stomped on. Japan already has a crises of low birthrate and declining moral standards. They don't want to go down the sewer with Northern European nations. They need their own personal Putin. Someone to hear their prayers, someone to care


What's worse is that Europe is more screwed compare to Japan regarding birth rate. At least in Japan, they don't really accept refuges whereas in Europe, they're coming in huge numbers. In addition, Japan has a lot of people compare to a country in Europe so there'll be less of those beautiful white European child.
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mayukachan said:



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Nov 7, 2015 5:54 PM
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Nah. Japan doesn't really like change.
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You would think that they would be since they have all of that yaoi and yuri stuff, but I see a lot of SOL anime characters get all defensive when saying that they are straight. So not sure.

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