Caitlyn Jenner ESPY awards speech

Lash_ said:
E Also, I thought this guy changed his gender, he just looks and sounds like a drag queen.

star_light98 said:
since coming out as a transgender woman, Caitlyn Jenner made her first scheduled appearance at the ESPY awards.

Jenner's speech at the ESPY.....was definitely one of the powerful and passionate speeches i have heard in a while. i srsly started crying towards the end :P anyway, Jenner delivered a very moving speech, where she called for respect, and compassion towards the trans community.
And as stated by Jenner, “...(trans people) deserve your respect. And from that respect, comes a more compassionate community, a more empathetic society, and a better world for all of us.". whether you agree with her decision to become a woman or you don't, you must agree with her message, its time to "accept people for who they are."

here's the link to her speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=112W8q8XXKw

Monad said:


How about showing your empathetic nature for the waiter that brings your food, runs up and down all day, works long hours, gets payed shit and fights not to end up in the street? Or the guy deep in the mines killing himself working in a cancerous environment trying to feed his family.
Or the people in poor nations fighting for survival and trying to escape wars and keep their kids safe.
You spoiled little girls try to play empathy by throwing some speech from some transgender whatever have long lost the meaning of what real empathy is and live in a pretentious sensitivity hypocrisy were you care more about the video of the little puppy getting kicked than the pain of your fellow men.

star_light98 said:


totally with agree with this though ahaha

traed said:
The comments here are pretty disgusting

Is Bruce Caitlyn getting more attention for this than they should? Yes, maybe.

Does this make them a bad person to be speaking publicly about it? No. Trans persons have fucking huge suicide rates so its good to have someone be open about it and be supported to make someone feel better and safer.

Does this mean people should be pushed into surgeries? No.

Should something like this be done with other things like other kinds of mental illnesses or physical illnesses or doing some heroic accomplishments or whatever? Yes.
Does that mean this shouldnt? No.

Lash_ said:
Everyone wants to support this attention whore but no body cares about the nurse that works long shifts saving peoples lives or the soldiers who serves their country. Also, I thought this guy changed his gender, he just looks and sounds like a drag queen.

Spooks_McBones said:
I learn something new everyday. Today I learn't that people can't appreciate more than one type of struggle and making awareness and acceptance a thing. I better really think on what one thing I should support because If I support say underpaid doctors I can't in anyway also support the homeless or soldiers because you know. I can only support raising awareness and acceptance of just one thing in life before been compromised.

Seriously so many edgy teenage attitudes around here just looking for an angle to feel offended by this. Who gives a fuck, doesn't affect you. This whole oh so this must mean doctors are under appreciated is just an angle to act offended and say angry shit because you want to not because you actually care. I don't, media can do what they want since when did any of us give a fuq about tabloid journalism? just don't pretend your rights to say insults is because of the poor homeless or doctors. You want to feel personally offended and make comments about trans community don't hide behind fake intention.

Spooks_McBones said:
I learn something new everyday. Today I learn't that people can't appreciate more than one type of struggle and making awareness and acceptance a thing.

vodall said:

I just don't understand why people refuse to see this as a serious issue. A lack of empathy?

Lash_ said:

It's more to do with the fact that he comes from the Kardashian family, I wouldn't be surprised if he was just doing all this shit for attention. I'm also tired of the media shoving this shit down our throats, I don't care. No body is offended, we're just tired of hearing about him and the Kardashians

Spooks_McBones said:
I learn something new everyday. Today I learn't that people can't appreciate more than one type of struggle and making awareness and acceptance a thing. I better really think on what one thing I should support because If I support say underpaid doctors I can't in anyway also support the homeless or soldiers because you know. I can only support raising awareness and acceptance of just one thing in life before been compromised.

Seriously so many edgy teenage attitudes around here just looking for an angle to feel offended by this. Who gives a fuck, doesn't affect you. This whole oh so this must mean doctors are under appreciated is just an angle to act offended and say angry shit because you want to not because you actually care. I don't, media can do what they want since when did any of us give a fuq about tabloid journalism? just don't pretend your rights to say insults is because of the poor homeless or doctors. You want to feel personally offended and make comments about trans community don't hide behind fake intention.

Lash_ said:


It's more to do with the fact that he comes from the Kardashian family, I wouldn't be surprised if he was just doing all this shit for attention. I'm also tired of the media shoving this shit down our throats, I don't care. No body is offended, we're just tired of hearing about him and the Kardashians

Spooks_McBones said:
Nah I don't buy it, it has to be because the transgender thing, a lot of people are just hiding behind fake outrage to hide transphobic comments.

battosai-01 said:
Yeah lets just all chop our dicks off and become women...

If you want to get surgeries and adopt the mannerisms and stereotypes of the opposite gender good for you, but that doesn't make you a fucking hero. The part where he mentions his father fighting in WWII and then says that he got more courage and determination from his mother than his father showed me how little respect he has for people that give up their lives so that he could have the freedom to make the choices that he does. So yeah fuck the real heroes that killed and died for your freedom, getting expensive surgeries to emulate the opposite sex is way more heroic and brave.

OkayCaim said:
Out of all the people who've accomplished sports feats this year, he was chosen because he mutilated his dick?

What.

OkayCaim said:
Out of all the people who've accomplished sports feats this year, he was chosen because he mutilated his dick?

What.

ToodleNoodles said:
its not like justin bieber won the award...this actually means something to a lot of people who struggle with being trans y'knowwww but i guess we cant let them have this. no happy trans people allowed

Red_Keys said:
They're only bringing up other "more important" issues so that they can complain about trans people and still hide behind "I'm not transphobic!! There's just more important things!!".

They just want you to know how much they hate trans people, but then don't want you to judge them for it.

If everybody really gave so much of a shit about.. coal miners or whatever, they wouldn't be wasting time on MAL crying about how undeserving trans people are of empathy (ironic much?), they'd be advocating for whatever it is they care so much about.

But yeah, nobody really gives a shit. They just want to complain that this person isn't living their life like they want them to.

joey101937 said:
ok I agree there are many better candidates, but sports feats? really?

because that's important....

Red_Keys said:
They're only bringing up other "more important" issues so that they can complain about trans people and still hide behind "I'm not transphobic

ThRippJck said:
If the dude didn't respect the gender he was born as, why should I respect the gender he is now?

battosai-01 said:
As for the soldier thing, he does make very specific reference to his father being a WWII soldier in his speech. He very clearly trivializes these hardships and doesn't afford them the proper respect they deserve. He says that his mother gave him more determination and courage. Do mothers have to face a greatly increased chance of PTSD and other mental illnesses? Do mothers have to go through brutal physical and disciplinary training? Do mothers have to risk losing their limbs and facing other debilitating physical injuries? Do mothers have to go to a foreign country and greatly diminish their contact with their loved ones? Do mother's often end up homeless, divorced and forgotten once they return home? Do mothers have to take the lives of other human beings? Do mothers have to risk their own lives? I'm not even a supporter of war, the war in the Middle East right now is BS in my opinion, but at the very least you can recognize and acknowledge the struggles that the soldiers that fight in these wars have to go through and give them the proper respect that they deserve.

ibear said:
Are you really trying to downplay the importance of a mother? Mothers can be forced to deal with PTSD after child birth, mothers who's husbands go to war are raising children by themselves and can only hope that when they wake up in the morning their child still has their father, and ffs mothers can go to war now. You ask "Do mothers have to take the lives of other human beings?" What about mothers who work in hospitals as nurses(there are a lot of those); mothers who see human death and suffering on a scale even soldiers don't often see, mothers who are asked to save lives, but see the lives of people they were taking care of slip away ever single night. Is it easy for them to go home to their family and ignore the lingering thought that there might have been something else they could have done or did something half a second faster and someone's family member would still be alive or at the very least have a fighting chance?

Lash_ said:
Everyone wants to support this attention whore but no body cares about the nurse that works long shifts saving peoples lives or the soldiers who serves their country. Also, I thought this guy changed his gender, he just looks and sounds like a drag queen.

battosai-01 said:


You're acting like being a mother is some sort of job. You can't get fired from being a mother and it's not like mothers have to face all of their problems alone. I take care of my little sister all the time when my mom is too busy. Am I suddenly a mother now? No it is just something that happens when you give birth to a child. You don't have to go through any training or have a resume and do an interview to be a mother. You don't have a boss or a commanding officer when you're a mother. I greatly respect my mother for giving birth to me and raising me, but I'm not going to pretend like it is some unbelievable achievement. Billions of women around the world are mothers. How many people are willing to become soldiers? In the context of the situation it is made even worse, because he was talking about WWII when the draft was in effect and being a soldier was mandatory if you were a man. You were forced to do all of these things. A mother always has the choice of an abortion or even putting the child up for adoption or abandoning the baby if she doesn't want to raise it. Being a nurse or a soldier is not part of being a mother, all you need to do to be a mother is give birth. Even if you don't raise that child you are still technically that child's mother. Women have given birth while in a coma... Stop making being a mother seem like the hardest thing anyone could ever do.

ibear said:
I'd sure as shit take being a soldier over raising a child by myself.

azzuRe said:
Why should I respect trans people more than I respect anybody else? Why should I treat them differently?

departure said:
Plus, this may be a dumb question but isn't the ESPY for sports achievements? I know Jenner won an Olympic decathlon but that is irrelevant to this recent ceremony.

PeripheralVision said:
So much edginess. Let's be fair, one of the most feared injuries in combat is dick mutilations. They increases as more and more soldiers survived combat. Nasty predicament I tell you.
I myself would rather go to war than get a sex change.

He was famous before Kardashians. You act as if its the only reason he is famous, when nothing further is from the truth. It increased his fame, but his exploits as an athlete far outlived the day they were achieved.

You think the world will switch over to the conservatives? Fat chance.

departure said:

They get shitted on more than the average person. Yes, they are celebrated by the new, "accepting" mainstream audience but there is still a lot of negativity and transphobia