| I've had my cats for about 5 years now and realized that they just sit around and do nothing all day. They're cute and fluffy, but I feel like it's selfish to keep them around for that reason. If I were a cat, I'd be promised a boring life of killing time by eating, sleeping, and shitting. There's not much I can do for them except play with them when they feel like it, but they're always lazy and just lay around the house. I feel like this is a really sad life for them and they should be out doing cat things like chasing mice and getting hit by cars, but instead they get no excitement whatsoever because we decided they would be born to do barely anything. Isn't this wrong? |
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| Maybe, but what about outside life, there are cats starving in the streets, injured and they even die in winter because it's too cold, it's hard for some cats to survive outdoors too. So I think there is no right answer to this, we can't actually feel, what animals (or other humans) feel, we can just think what they could feel. |
| No cats enjoy it even if they live in apartment /building If they live in house then they can do anyting outside at any time if they want. Also they get too eat drink and be loved what is wrong about it they are more laidback and lazy by nature (although they are supposed too be hunters too like wild big cats). (had multiple of them while i was in old house not now since am in building full of wack people anyway) . |
ExowaveMay 6, 2015 1:46 PM
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| You're a good person OP, and I think the same way as you. That's why I never, ever get pets who I can't give a full life and fulfill all their instincts (for example, I have cats, but would not have had them if they couldn't be outside. They go in and out as they please). People take the right to have pets for granted, and only think of themselves. It makes me sick. |
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| it's still better than any life they can get, and I don't think cats hate this 'lifestyle' either |
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| I don't think its wrong. A lot of pets can't survive without an owner. They get captured and put to sleep in pounds, or they don't have enough food. It gets cold in winter, and a lot of them die young. Anyhow, do you live in a place where your cat can't go outside? Cats love the out doors. (I guess only if you raise them to like it) and they always come back. Because, hey, Who feeds them? You. I guess it's okay to let them be a house cat. Maybe buy some toys? If they have a scratch pad and something to jump up on they'll be fine. :) |
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| I don't think it's wrong to own pets. I don't think having an animal and caring for it is necessarily any sort of mistreatment. |
| Didn't you forget that cats get out in the streets to do cat things, anyways? Meet other cats and fight other cats, etc. My dog died two days ago actually. Obviously not over it, it's gonna take a while and I'm thinking maybe 2 months more or less until I'm used to it all. I'm mourning her death, cry when I want to and try to keep calm so I don't cry all day. But, I have no regrets, I accepted everything and am glad to have spent 13 years with her. I'm sure she was too, excited and happy even before her death... |
Imaishi said: it's still better than any life they can get, and I don't think cats hate this 'lifestyle' either They fucking love it. Food & sleep, what's not to like. Dogs are still better though. |
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waalex11 said: Didn't you forget that cats get out in the streets to do cat things, anyways? Meet other cats and fight other cats, etc. My dog died two days ago actually. Obviously not over it, it's gonna take a while and I'm thinking maybe 2 months more or less until I'm used to it all. I'm mourning her death, cry when I want to and try to keep calm so I don't cry all day. But, I have no regrets, I accepted everything and am glad to have spent 13 years with her. I'm sure she was too, excited and happy even before her death... Sorry to hear about that :( |
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dakotasapphire said: I don't think its wrong. A lot of pets can't survive without an owner. They get captured and put to sleep in pounds, or they don't have enough food. It gets cold in winter, and a lot of them die young. Anyhow, do you live in a place where your cat can't go outside? Cats love the out doors. (I guess only if you raise them to like it) and they always come back. Because, hey, Who feeds them? You. I guess it's okay to let them be a house cat. Maybe buy some toys? If they have a scratch pad and something to jump up on they'll be fine. :) All this is good advice |
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| A home is not a bad thing for an animal. It gives them a roof over their head that protects them from bad weather and cold/hot weather. It gives them food and a place where they can sleep in comfort. I've rescued a few cats in my lifetime. All of them were either really sick from being outside in cold temps or bad weather, abandoned by their owners, or they were starving. I think that the cats would much rather have the luxury of lazing around a house bored rather than having to go through what the stray cats do. |
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| No. |
| If you're against eating animals, against the suffering of animals, against the meat industry, against zoophilia etc, then I'd say it's hypocritical if you keep pets. |
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Immahnoob said: TRIGGER WARNINGIf you're against eating animals, against the suffering of animals, against the meat industry, against zoophilia etc, then I'd say it's hypocritical if you keep pets. RACE WAR NOW |
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| Owning pets is like adoption. But they just never grow up and move on :V |
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Immahnoob said: If you're against eating animals, against the suffering of animals, against the meat industry, against zoophilia etc, then I'd say it's hypocritical if you keep pets. How is it hypocritical for an animal loving vegetarian to have a pet cat or dog? They are a vegetarian because they love animals and don't want to consume them, and they want to have a pet so that they can feed and take care of an animal. I don't see the problem. |
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Cersei said: You're keeping an animal in captivity...How is it hypocritical for an animal loving vegetarian to have a pet cat or dog? They are a vegetarian because they love animals and don't want to consume them, and they want to have a pet so that they can feed and take care of an animal. I don't see the problem. |
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Immahnoob said: Cersei said: You're keeping an animal in captivity...How is it hypocritical for an animal loving vegetarian to have a pet cat or dog? They are a vegetarian because they love animals and don't want to consume them, and they want to have a pet so that they can feed and take care of an animal. I don't see the problem. What about animals who were rescued and almost died in the wild? Or pet owners who let their animals go outside and then come back as they please? |
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| This is why you invest in dogs. |
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Immahnoob said: If they are feral then yeah the animals can see it as captivity, but if they were born with humans, and see them as Parents or companions then I don't see how they would feel that way :O I guess you could be referring to the conditioning from the start?Cersei said: You're keeping an animal in captivity...How is it hypocritical for an animal loving vegetarian to have a pet cat or dog? They are a vegetarian because they love animals and don't want to consume them, and they want to have a pet so that they can feed and take care of an animal. I don't see the problem. |
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DoctorCaim said: This is why you invest in dogs. Always speaking sense man. *respect* |
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| I don't know about cats, but that is life for plenty of people and they don't particularly enjoy it. Living in a small box wasting life away. Sad it is. |
mecharobot said: What about pets in mansions? O.oI don't know about cats, but that is life for plenty of people and they don't particularly enjoy it. Living in a small box wasting life away. Sad it is. |
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DarkStarr96 said: dakotasapphire said: I don't think its wrong. A lot of pets can't survive without an owner. They get captured and put to sleep in pounds, or they don't have enough food. It gets cold in winter, and a lot of them die young. Anyhow, do you live in a place where your cat can't go outside? Cats love the out doors. (I guess only if you raise them to like it) and they always come back. Because, hey, Who feeds them? You. I guess it's okay to let them be a house cat. Maybe buy some toys? If they have a scratch pad and something to jump up on they'll be fine. :) All this is good advice Thanks :) |
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Cersei said: Nature works that way.Immahnoob said: You're keeping an animal in captivity... What about animals who were rescued and almost died in the wild? Or pet owners who let their animals go outside and then come back as they please? Still captivity, Pavlov's dog. And yes, Rasco. I can easily educate a child from birth to be my sex slave (disregarding that you might get caught because it's ok to do this on animals, and disregarding social interactions because animals don't socialize and are not limited like us by society, you can also disregard other shit, think only of the "semi-determination" I'm talking about). Would you be against it? Also, try to think of the "hypocrisy", that is my main point. And I'll explain. If you fit the criteria of my first post, you're forcing ethics hypocritically, I'm not trying to make it look like "child = animal" but rather as "animals can be programmed to do X, children can be programmed to do X". |
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| Yes. If you love something, you must set it free. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| Some pets would die on their own if they didn't have an owner. |
BadJuju said: That's because of conditioning, and it's mostly our fault for that too.Some pets would die on their own if they didn't have an owner. Let's not forget that that isn't actually a problem for nature as we claim it is. |
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| It may depend on the owner. If i'm pampered and spoiled, I'd rather be locked in a house than under cardboard boxes trying to stay dry. That's just me. Although, I do feel sorry for my moms cat when he stares out the window, wishing he could chase birds......now i'm sad. |
Immahnoob said: I get your point. Animals were feral from the start and we conditioned them to be "pets". So I see why you would consider it hypocritical. But now we see it to be okay since its now modern.Cersei said: Nature works that way.What about animals who were rescued and almost died in the wild? Or pet owners who let their animals go outside and then come back as they please? Still captivity, Pavlov's dog. And yes, Rasco. I can easily educate a child from birth to be my sex slave (disregarding that you might get caught because it's ok to do this on animals, and disregarding social interactions because animals don't socialize and are not limited like us by society, you can also disregard other shit, think only of the "semi-determination" I'm talking about). Would you be against it? Also, try to think of the "hypocrisy", that is my main point. And I'll explain. If you fit the criteria of my first post, you're forcing ethics hypocritically, I'm not trying to make it look like "child = animal" but rather as "animals can be programmed to do X, children can be programmed to do X". |
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| Nah, from personal experience cats really enjoy being lazing and just laying around the house all day long and sleeping, you're doing nothing wrong |
| I have no idea if it is wrong or right, it just is. Depending on what sort of environment a pet grows up in is what they'll adhere to. And if you're taking an animal away from that environment then they'll either adapt, live with it or try to get away. I don't own any pets in the US, back home was entirely different. A lot of animals were on the streets dying and starving and when you take them in, you provide a shelter and a "family". But you'd also let them loose and let them do what they want, similar to taking them for a walk without actually walking them. And they'd come back home whenever they want. They didn't have special diets either, just eating regular food. Now that's programmed, but it didn't hurt them physically so I'm assuming it wasn't wrong. |
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Rasco said: Yes, and we see it as okay also because having a "pet" is a day-to-day occurrence.But now we see it to be okay since its now modern. |
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| No, its not weong if the animal is treated awell and suited for that habitat. Cats only meow to humans, not other cats. This alone should clue you in how much they are suited as pets. My stray cats that live outside and my own pets act no different. If anything indoor cats live longer and healthier than some barn cat would. |
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| My cat likes to explore the great adventures of the garden. She stays outside through the day and let her inside at night. I see her hunting outside through my window, killing lizards, mice, and birds so I feel like she's living a happy life. She actually likes being inside better though. I think she'd have a very happy life, considering she also likes to stuff her face a lot. She's a plump well fed cat. |
| Domestication made them "meow"... |
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NicoIsPathetic said: I lol'ed.I want to own a pet baby orange gorilla and name it Immahnoob. There goes my impression of Noob. Now he's just cute. |
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NicoIsPathetic said: I've killed all other orange gorillas.I want to own a pet baby orange gorilla and name it Immahnoob. |
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| Well Domestication occurred when wild animals settle near with early human settlements (or vice versa) for food Its all because of food we have pets today |
| Twitter and it's consequences had been a disaster for the human race |
| Or maybe the pets actually own us |
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| Cats love, LOVE sleeping. If they're allowed out then they'll go out and do cat things all day. If they feel like it. Dogs are the ones who tend to get super depressed shut in all day. Cats are as domesticated as they want to be. |
| Not really. They can't exactly have great achievements or happy memories. They barely even know they have kids. As long as a pet is well cared for, they are relatively happy and live about as fulfilling a life as any animal can have. |
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| Yes. Owning a pet is like a white master enjoying time with his slave. Sure, the black man might not survive by himself in the jungle, and surely he is much more comfortable being the house nigger that gets fed and a roof over his head, as long as he performs tricks and catches the frisbee. If nothing else, it's absolutely frivolous. Blacks love, LOVE KFC. If they're allowed out then they'll go out and do black things all day. If they feel like it. Blacks are as domesticated as they want to be. You should adapt to the animal and their needs, not be selfish. If you deliberately buy a slave with high energy level and you shut it in the corner of your basement, then why the hell did you think it was a good idea in the first place? So long as there's symbiosis between a white master and his slave, and you yourself know wholeheartedly that your negro is enjoying time with you, then I see nothing wrong with it. No, its not weong if the animal is treated awell and suited for that habitat. Negros only speak ebonics to humans, not other animals. This alone should clue you in how much they are suited as slaves. Wild blacks that live outside and my own slaves act no different. If anything house niggers live longer and healthier than some Zulu tribesman would. As long as a slave is well cared for, they are relatively happy and live about as fulfilling a life as any animal can have. Man I'd love to be a house negro, what the blue cheese are you talking about? lol. Anyway, as long as the person treats their negro(s) with care, feeds them properly, doesn't abuse them etc. I won't ever object to people keeping slaves on the leash. |
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katsucats said: Yes. Owning a pet is like a white master enjoying time with his slave. Sure, the black man might not survive by himself in the jungle, and surely he is much more comfortable being the house nigger that gets fed and a roof over his head, as long as he performs tricks and catches the frisbee. If nothing else, it's absolutely frivolous. Blacks love, LOVE KFC. If they're allowed out then they'll go out and do black things all day. If they feel like it. Blacks are as domesticated as they want to be. You should adapt to the animal and their needs, not be selfish. If you deliberately buy a slave with high energy level and you shut it in the corner of your basement, then why the hell did you think it was a good idea in the first place? So long as there's symbiosis between a white master and his slave, and you yourself know wholeheartedly that your negro is enjoying time with you, then I see nothing wrong with it. No, its not weong if the animal is treated awell and suited for that habitat. Negros only speak ebonics to humans, not other animals. This alone should clue you in how much they are suited as slaves. Wild blacks that live outside and my own slaves act no different. If anything house niggers live longer and healthier than some Zulu tribesman would. As long as a slave is well cared for, they are relatively happy and live about as fulfilling a life as any animal can have. Man I'd love to be a house negro, what the blue cheese are you talking about? lol. Anyway, as long as the person treats their negro(s) with care, feeds them properly, doesn't abuse them etc. I won't ever object to people keeping slaves on the leash. "No, its not weong if the animal is treated awell" haha nice English |
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