| You might want to put the food down when driving in Georgia, you may get a ticket. Source This is stupid, really a citation for eating a burger (and there was no accident so no excuse either), this officer must have had a slow day to be writing a ticket for eating a cheeseburger while driving. |
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| It's not for eating a cheeseburger, but for distracted driving. And while almost everyone eats and drives, the question is solely one of whether it impairs driving ability to the extent that the risk of an accident is significantly increased. The definition of "significantly" can vary quite a bit based on jurisdiction. Compare what happens if you pick up a phone while driving in LA versus where I am. Is it a bit of a stretch? Yes Is it that far out there? No Is it silly/stupid? That's debatable |
| Everybody eats burgers using both hands to hold it. Obviously driving with no hands on the wheel will result in a ticket. |
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| This is illegal?!?! Cuz....I've done this more than a few times... I mean, what? You're hungry and you gotta get somewhere, so you pop into McDonalds and get your snack on... |
ReaperCreeper said: Everybody eats burgers using both hands to hold it. Obviously driving with no hands on the wheel will result in a ticket. Depends on the size of the burger (which wasn't given), if it's anything as big as a double or triple whopper, you would be right as both hands would need to be used to eat one but if it was a normal cheeseburger, that can be eaten with one hand. |
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ReaperCreeper said: Everybody eats burgers using both hands to hold it. Obviously driving with no hands on the wheel will result in a ticket. Here in America we eat so many burgers that we have evolved large hands in order to eat them with only one, while keeping the other on the wheel....or on your dick if you're into that stuff.... Look, the point is, you don't even need hands to drive, that's why you also got knees.... C'mon people, it's called multitasking!!! |
ReaperCreeper said: A pro only needs one handEverybody eats burgers using both hands to hold it. Obviously driving with no hands on the wheel will result in a ticket. |
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| Its the same as talking on the phone or texting while driving. Its very distracting, so no, this isnt stupid. If he was really hungry he couldve pulled over, taken like 5 minutes to finish eating, and then carried on instead of putting everyone around him in danger by having 50% of his attention go to sloppily eating a full meal while on the road. |
marriage said: Its the same as talking on the phone or texting while driving. Its very distracting, so no, this isnt stupid. If he was really hungry he couldve pulled over, taken like 5 minutes to finish eating, and then carried on instead of putting everyone around him in danger by having 50% of his attention go to sloppily eating a full meal while on the road. I want you to prove eating a burger is distracting now. |
Drunk_Samurai said: I'm pretty sure there was a study that shows eating while driving lowers your reaction time.marriage said: Its the same as talking on the phone or texting while driving. Its very distracting, so no, this isnt stupid. If he was really hungry he couldve pulled over, taken like 5 minutes to finish eating, and then carried on instead of putting everyone around him in danger by having 50% of his attention go to sloppily eating a full meal while on the road. I want you to prove eating a burger is distracting now. |
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Drunk_Samurai said: marriage said: Its the same as talking on the phone or texting while driving. Its very distracting, so no, this isnt stupid. If he was really hungry he couldve pulled over, taken like 5 minutes to finish eating, and then carried on instead of putting everyone around him in danger by having 50% of his attention go to sloppily eating a full meal while on the road. I want you to prove eating a burger is distracting now. People overestimating their driving skills and only using one hand = bad and what reaper said, less reaction time |
| This guy gets on the wheel with only one foot I should be able to eat my burgers while driving with one hand |
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marriage said: Drunk_Samurai said: I want you to prove eating a burger is distracting now. People overestimating their driving skills and only using one hand = bad and what reaper said, less reaction time That's not a source. |
Drunk_Samurai said: marriage said: People overestimating their driving skills and only using one hand = bad and what reaper said, less reaction time That's not a source. I feel like every person on this forum is trolling me when they reply to my posts at this point |
marriage said: Well this thread is about driving with cheeseburgersDrunk_Samurai said: That's not a source. I feel like every person on this forum is trolling me when they reply to my posts at this point |
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marriage said: Drunk_Samurai said: That's not a source. I feel like every person on this forum is trolling me when they reply to my posts at this point Learn what the burden of proof is. You stated a claim and never backed it up with any source. |
| In one of them Simpsons comics Homer was arrested for a D.W.E.T.M (Driving while eating too much) |
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Drunk_Samurai said: marriage said: I feel like every person on this forum is trolling me when they reply to my posts at this point Learn what the burden of proof is. You stated a claim and never backed it up with any source. How is it that so many people on MAL lack any common sense and require proof and statistics for the most basic knowledge imaginable? How do you get to that point where you need a scientific experiment to convince you that doing other shit while driving is a distraction? Are you another pseudo intellectual whos obsessed with following internet debate rules? |
marriage said: At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see a conversation that follows like this.How is it that so many people on MAL lack any common sense and require proof and statistics for the most basic knowledge imaginable? How do you get to that point where you need a scientific experiment to convince you that doing other shit while driving is a distraction? Are you another pseudo intellectual whos obsessed with following internet debate rules? "The letter A is followed by the letter B." "Sources before I take you seriously." |
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marriage said: Normally I would agree with you and for the most part I do but I was curious as well if there was a study to prove this.How is it that so many people on MAL lack any common sense and require proof and statistics for the most basic knowledge imaginable? How do you get to that point where you need a scientific experiment to convince you that doing other shit while driving is a distraction? Are you another pseudo intellectual whos obsessed with following internet debate rules? I found the study that the article named and found that besides eating, the other distractions listed were listening to a cell phone (music and otherwise), talking to a passenger and etc. These all appear to be distractions that we do and are legal to do as long as a hand is on the wheel. So, the cop was dumb, a judge will say the cop was wrong. The guy was hungry. |
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RedRoseFring said: It was a double royale with cheese baby!Was it a Royale with Cheese? |
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ErwinJA said: Compare what happens if you pick up a phone while driving in LA versus where I am. You aren't supposed to use a Phone while driving without a hands-free Phone System. Or rather, there exists a better Method. Similar to having a Co-Driver holding your Phone or your Food/Drink as long as you aren't distracted by that. While it's certainly debatable how much a certain Distraction leads to an increase of Accidents and you should take into Account the general Driving Skills and the Condition of the Roads and Vehicles as well as whether the Cars are automatic or not, meaning you don't have to have one (almost) dedicated Hand to the Clutch Stick, it's an avoidable Distraction and every avoidable and unnecessary one less is better than allowing everyone to do whatever he or she pleases behind the Wheel during Driving. |
| Here in the UK someone got a fine for drinking a McDonalds milkshake which I would guess would only need one hand so probably isn't even as bad as eating a cheeseburger behind the wheel. I suppose anything that could possibly be classed as being distracted whilst driving the police could pull you up on it, depending on how bored they are. |
That's called prevention To stop crime we should kill all human beings. marriage said: Anyone can make any claim, if you won't provide proof of your claims then your statement is not proven.I feel like every person on this forum is trolling me when they reply to my posts at this point |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Cheeseburgering and driving is a serious crime. Do you know how many mascots have been killed from eating drivers? No, neither do I, but should we take that chance? |
| That's actually completely normal here, I believe. It you eat something that could be considered a "main meal" and that requires you to look at it regularly—like a sandwich or burger—and a cop sees you, you will get a ticket. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Why do you need to constantly watch it? |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Stuff falls out/moves around, you want to see where the best place to bite is, I dunno. It definitely takes more effort than eating a chocolate bar or some crackers, unless you're a complete slob, in which case you should get a ticket for slobbery. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| So when you drive, you always get an extra 20 sauce cheeseburger, with no wrapper and you hold it with two fingers, right? It's ridiculous anyway. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| If you get fined for eating a cheesburger while driving, why not while smoking a cigarette or talking to other people in the car? You are still being distracted. |
Noboru said: Actually, you're not supposed to use a phone at all. Studies have found that just talking on a phone, hands free, impairs driving just as much as being legally intoxicated (just over the limit, not plastered). But there's more to it in many areas. The thing is that, in addition to being a safety issue, fines for infractions are a major source of revenue for many municipalities - just see the projected costs of the NYPD's refusal to enforce them. In general, the more strapped the city is for cash, or the more heavily it naturally leans on these fines, the more aggressive the police are expected to be in catching people and fining them. ErwinJA said: Compare what happens if you pick up a phone while driving in LA versus where I am. You aren't supposed to use a Phone while driving without a hands-free Phone System. Or rather, there exists a better Method. Similar to having a Co-Driver holding your Phone or your Food/Drink as long as you aren't distracted by that. While it's certainly debatable how much a certain Distraction leads to an increase of Accidents and you should take into Account the general Driving Skills and the Condition of the Roads and Vehicles as well as whether the Cars are automatic or not, meaning you don't have to have one (almost) dedicated Hand to the Clutch Stick, it's an avoidable Distraction and every avoidable and unnecessary one less is better than allowing everyone to do whatever he or she pleases behind the Wheel during Driving. Now, again to this incident. We still know nothing. You can eat in a manner that would make you as dangerous as someone who's plastered. Yet you could also eat in a manner that barely impacted your driving. But remember: this wasn't just a handful of chips or a breakfast bar, so it was more dangerous than merely eating in general could be. The same cop would probably not nail you for reaching into a bag of chips and stuffing your face while keeping your eyes on the road. We also don't know the specific laws and how they're applied. The city and state legislatures determine what is and isn't acceptable in the areas they have jurisdiction, and how strongly they should be enforced. When there's any ambiguity, the police make judgment calls on whether those boundaries have been crossed, and the courts determine if the police made an appropriate decision. "I've done it all the time and never been in an accident" is also an invalid argument. The question should be: "has doing it ever placed you in a position where, had the situation been slightly different, you could have been in one?" If so, it's dangerous enough that it could, depending on who's making the laws, be deemed enough to warrant something. Frankly, the rate of vehicular manslaughter in this country is quite disturbing, and is far more of an issue than, say, gun violence. Some fixes (see: Michigan Left) can be quite odious, but if they actually do what they're intended to, they may still be acceptable and appropriate. This is a judgment call. |
ErwinJAJan 21, 2015 10:28 PM
Studies have found that just talking on a phone, hands free, impairs driving just as much as being legally intoxicated I now want to see the study directly. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
ErwinJA said: Actually, you're not supposed to use a phone at all. Studies have found that just talking on a phone, hands free, impairs driving just as much as being legally intoxicated (just over the limit, not plastered). First of, I'm interested in those Studies as well. 2ndly, if you aren't supposed to use a Phone at all, there should be no Reason to allow Hands-Free Systems. Thirdly, (and that one goes in Line with SparklySeeker's Objection on #37) it's not solely about Distraction, but rather about having both Hands firm at the Steering Wheels and the Eyes in Front, aside from maybe a Split Second to operate the Car (changing Gears, indicating Directions, switching on Lights and Heating, etc.)and the mere Second of Switching to another Radio Sender shouldn't be something that distracting when you have to do similar Tasks alone for normal Driving. Also, unlike Eating a Burger, it's harder to proof that you weren't just trying to operate it normally, your Hands can immediately grab the Steering Wheel in an Emergency and the same could be said about Smoking, since you don't have to use a whole Hand for holding the Cigarettes, but rather a few Fingers. That's most-likely the Reason why it's still considered o.k. to smoke during Driving (provided that you ignite when the Car is stopped or before you start it) as opposed to eat a whole Burger. Chips and other Stuff are probably more lenient, as you don't need to hold it in one Hand the entire Time. I'm not going to speculate on a potential Conspiracy to get more Money outside the People, but in this Case, I fully support the Decision of Charging anyone, whose Hand is fully occupied for a longer Period of Time by holding a Phone or Eating a Burger. |
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