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Dec 13, 2014 12:38 PM

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Omg, during the talk in the living room, they meshed Rin and Archer's themes together. O_O

Oh, good catch, I didn't notice that. That's actually a pretty nice idea, and they work well together too.
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Good episode. Really liked the Kuzuki fight and Shirou summoning the swords especially. Actually, the dream sequence at the beginning was pretty great as well. Kind of surprised that Rin got to speak the title chant, though.

As for why Kuzuki said they should leave, it doesn't even need to be explained. He looks at Saber as she's below them for a reason, the guy clearly realizes she's a huge threat and thought retreat was the best option. It doesn't need to be spelled out at all. People who are familiar with Sabers abilities should know that his caution was warranted anyway.
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Dec 13, 2014 12:40 PM

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Don't you think complaining about some fucking lightning effects to be just an overblown nitpick? It was the rule of cool, end of story.

Episode itself was one of the better ones I feel. Looked gorgeous, great OST, UBW chant, and Shirou being GAR.

I particularly enjoyed blonde dude's story at the end. It does a great job of giving us a glimpse of his true nature and way of thinking. Kinda wished he decked Shinji in the face after he touched him, but oh well, still awesome.
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Trace on! Emiya finally did it and showed his badassness. And perfect Souichirou got wounded as result.
Best episode so far.

And dat Rule Breaker...! Being not used this time :)
Dec 13, 2014 12:41 PM

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insan3priest said:
As for why Kuzuki said they should leave, it doesn't even need to be explained. He looks at Saber as she's below them for a reason, the guy clearly realizes she's a huge threat and thought retreat was the best option. It doesn't need to be spelled out at all. People who are familiar with Sabers abilities should know that his caution was warranted anyway.
The problem is too many fans seem to think the audience needs to be spoonfed to understand the characters' actions.
Which is a bit sad.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Dec 13, 2014 12:46 PM

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GangstaPriest said:
insan3priest said:
As for why Kuzuki said they should leave, it doesn't even need to be explained. He looks at Saber as she's below them for a reason, the guy clearly realizes she's a huge threat and thought retreat was the best option. It doesn't need to be spelled out at all. People who are familiar with Sabers abilities should know that his caution was warranted anyway.
The problem is too many fans seem to think the audience needs to be spoonfed to understand the characters' actions.
Which is a bit sad.
No, the problem is when they are spoonfed they either complain about too much talking, or the show not respecting their intelligence and lacking "show don't tell," or both.
Dec 13, 2014 12:47 PM

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Mother. Fucking. Kuzuki for you, bitches.
They really nailed it, the fighting scene. The place they were fighting was far more interesting than in the VN. The background made a really interesting scene. With the winter and all the snow out there in my country, it's fitting too :P

Rin was also really well portrayed in this episode, as a magus willing to fight. She doesn't just stand back, she goes into the action. She's also always so cute :3
Shirou ''Trace on!'' was epic. I know that he can be annoying and sound misogynist (in the Fate route), but please, give the poor fellaw a chance :(

Saber got rekt hard. Well, to be fair, they all got rekt pretty hard. She was never prepared for Kuzuki OPness, neither was any of the group. Also, we got to see Caster weird blade. Look like some weird anus tearer.

Blondie goes into the action with fucking Shinji. Poor him, he really got the short end of the stick.

Here's my album for this episode : http://imgur.com/a/qoTaq
Here's my Rin album for this episode : http://imgur.com/a/gIEC6
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Dec 13, 2014 12:47 PM

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yeah i forgot to mention that the scene with the blonde guy was great this was good.
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mickdrew_99 said:
Shintai said:
Don't you think complaining about some fucking lightning effects to be just an overblown nitpick? It was the rule of cool, end of story.

Episode itself was one of the better ones I feel. Looked gorgeous, great OST, UBW chant, and Shirou being GAR.

I particularly enjoyed blonde dude's story at the end. It does a great job of giving us a glimpse of his true nature and way of thinking. Kinda wished he decked Shinji in the face after he touched him, but oh well, still awesome.


These episode discussions have become bitchfests where everyone complains about nothing.

Keep in mind that complaining and pointing out the details that they didn't use important or not, is not the same thing
Dec 13, 2014 12:50 PM

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y123y said:
There is a youtube reviewer who is ticking me off right now. He has played the VN before and for the last 3 episodes, including this one, he has been making theories about who Archer really is. And he is acting all surprise as if his theories just came true and he is a genius. Just.... oh well


People are already bashing him right now in the general spoiler discussion thread
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Dec 13, 2014 12:50 PM

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The lightning effects were pretty annoying and that shirou scream of "tohsaka" was like oh dear level, very cringe-worthy overall and it did hurt the quality of that scene.

Every fight episode seems to end the same way by the way, shirou always almost dying and super injured, probably the next episode too starts with him waking up in his bed bandaged up etc, getting deja vu feels here
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y123y said:
There is a youtube reviewer who is ticking me off right now. He has played the VN before and for the last 3 episodes, including this one, he has been making theories about who Archer really is. And he is acting all surprise as if his theories just came true and he is a genius. Just.... oh well

Stop watching Chibi for your own good.
Dec 13, 2014 12:50 PM

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Wow, that shounen powerup when your friends are in danger, soooooo epic. It didn't help that the scene was so over-the-top that it became hilarious.
Thankfully the VN fans already spoiled this, so I couldn't fully appreciate the """""asspull""""".

It also seems like most people liked the visuals, but I thought this was easily the worst fight of the series when it came to animation and coreography (although that's not saying much).

Still, a certain someone finally took the spotlight, so 10/10. Zero watchers only:
Dec 13, 2014 12:52 PM
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y123y said:
There is a youtube reviewer who is ticking me off right now. He has played the VN before and for the last 3 episodes, including this one, he has been making theories about who Archer really is. And he is acting all surprise as if his theories just came true and he is a genius. Just.... oh well


Why would an anime only viewer even watch episode reviews from a guy who read the VN? that's your own damn fault.
Dec 13, 2014 12:55 PM

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When Berserkcar grabbed Saber's sword in ep 3 she released Invisible Air and fried his ass but when Kuzuki does she acts like an idiot and just stares at him. Stupid, inconsistent 12 year old child writing. Not even mentioning the asspull of Shirou randomly getting shonen powerups like its fuckin Naruto or something. After watching such a mature and adult show like F/Z I was expecting another masterpiece. Too bad I'm left with this shonenshit!

Am I doing this right, guys? Senpai, pls notice me. Also this episode was boner-of-my-sword/10
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Dec 13, 2014 12:56 PM
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y123y said:
There is a youtube reviewer who is ticking me off right now. He has played the VN before and for the last 3 episodes, including this one, he has been making theories about who Archer really is. And he is acting all surprise as if his theories just came true and he is a genius. Just.... oh well


Couldn't watch Never watched his omgsreviews after a few early ones.
Dec 13, 2014 12:57 PM

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Also no Fai, I wasn't trolling. Shirou really is all that.

I reckon what bothers you is not so much the fact that he is what he is rather than the fact that ufo's version of the projection scene reminds you of a certain type of tropes you dislike present in many battle shounen.

And what I'm trying to tell is that it's perfectly ok, since it doesn't take anything away from Shirou's character (imo), precisely because he's also literally that: a shounen hero protagonist.
What differentiates him from the others is that he's much more than just that. And ufo's done a pretty damn good job at showing that so far.

So yeah, that's why I believe having that scene become a moment of hype perfectly works.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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I've never ever watched someone making an episode about him reviewing an anime. What's the point? No clue why those are so popular anyway. Maybe I should start making some, at least I wouldn't be fanboying.
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Dec 13, 2014 12:58 PM

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dankickyou said:
When Berserkcar grabbed Saber's sword in ep 3 she released Invisible Air and fried his ass but when Kuzuki does she acts like an idiot and just stares at him. Stupid, inconsistent 12 year old child writing. Not even mentioning the asspull of Shirou randomly getting shonen powerups like its fuckin Naruto or something. After watching such a mature and adult show like F/Z I was expecting another masterpiece. Too bad I'm left with this shonenshit!

Am I doing this right, guys? Senpai, pls notice me. Also this episode was boner-of-my-sword/10


You almost got me. Good one.
Dec 13, 2014 12:58 PM

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Dec 13, 2014 12:58 PM

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Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )
Dec 13, 2014 12:59 PM

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This isn't really the place to discuss anime reviewers, in any case.
Dec 13, 2014 12:59 PM

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kokusho36 said:
Still, a certain someone finally took the spotlight, so 10/10. Zero watchers only:

Let's say that
Dec 13, 2014 12:59 PM

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dankickyou said:
When Berserkcar grabbed Saber's sword in ep 3 she released Invisible Air and fried his ass but when Kuzuki does she acts like an idiot and just stares at him. Stupid, inconsistent 12 year old child writing. Not even mentioning the asspull of Shirou randomly getting shonen powerups like its fuckin Naruto or something. After watching such a mature and adult show like F/Z I was expecting another masterpiece. Too bad I'm left with this shonenshit!

Am I doing this right, guys? Senpai, pls notice me. Also this episode was boner-of-my-sword/10


Senpai-chan has noticed you. You're doing good. Just don't add the last bit on next time ;)
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Dec 13, 2014 1:00 PM
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ijuka said:
I've never ever watched someone making an episode about him reviewing an anime. What's the point? No clue why those are so popular anyway. Maybe I should start making some, at least I wouldn't be fanboying.

Yeah that's beyond pointless and a waste of time, I could understand watching a anime full series review but episodes reviews, nah man.
Dec 13, 2014 1:00 PM

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robis798 said:
Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )


When Nasu decided to stop nerfing her. Don't get your hopes up. Her suffering in honest-to-godly delicious. Have you seen my sig btw?
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Dec 13, 2014 1:00 PM

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robis798 said:
Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )


It will never happen.
Dec 13, 2014 1:01 PM

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robis798 said:
Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )

In this route?
She doesn't really kick anyone's ass, so to speak, seeing as she got all the spotlight in Fate.
And that's only in general; the Saber class is the best class, but the 5th war's servants are all fairly powerful in general.
Dec 13, 2014 1:01 PM

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Mangalist-san said:
robis798 said:
Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )


who the fucked told you Saber is the strongest servant?


She is tho. As far as WE know.
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Dec 13, 2014 1:01 PM

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robis798 said:
Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )
Oh sweetheart not anytime soon.
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robis798 said:
Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )


She didn't kick Berserker's ass though, that was a team effort.
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Mich666 and ijuka, both of you are wrong. It didn't do anything. Time changes people, that's all.
Dec 13, 2014 1:02 PM

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dankickyou said:
When Berserkcar grabbed Saber's sword in ep 3 she released Invisible Air and fried his ass but when Kuzuki does she acts like an idiot and just stares at him. Stupid, inconsistent 12 year old child writing. Not even mentioning the asspull of Shirou randomly getting shonen powerups like its fuckin Naruto or something. After watching such a mature and adult show like F/Z I was expecting another masterpiece. Too bad I'm left with this shonenshit!

Am I doing this right, guys? Senpai, pls notice me. Also this episode was boner-of-my-sword/10


So original, so mindblowing, 10/10. Everyone who complains about F/SN is just a F/Z fanboy who doesn't understand that F/Z is just side material, right?
Thank god there's finally someone who points this out, it's not like every criticism is immediately answered by 5 different sarcastic priests.
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chickenonthepan said:
robis798 said:
Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )


It will never happen.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Dec 13, 2014 1:02 PM

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"cannot find peers" for this episode.

So much for the downloading master race >.>
Dec 13, 2014 1:03 PM

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I've never ever watched someone making an episode about him reviewing an anime. What's the point? No clue why those are so popular anyway. Maybe I should start making some, at least I wouldn't be fanboying.

Yeah that's beyond pointless and a waste of time, I could understand watching a anime full series review but episodes reviews, nah man.
When a series is popular for having lots of "OH SHIT!" moments, watching reactions from other people who don't have any prior knowledge of the franchise/anime can be very fun (eg. a couple of HxH's episodes, a good chunk of AoT's episodes, ufo's UBW fight scenes etc.)
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GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Drake1000 said:
robis798 said:
Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )


She didn't kick Berserker's ass though, that was a team effort.
That's the VN.
In the anime she took one of his lives.
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Mangalist-san said:
robis798 said:
Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )


who the fucked told you Saber is the strongest servant?


Well I don't remember exactly where I heard that she is the strongest, but it was mentioned more than once and she is getting beaten up a lot of the times.

And am I the only one that is not enjoying her getting beat up? :D
Dec 13, 2014 1:04 PM

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mira-lala said:
robis798 said:
Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )


When Nasu decided to stop nerfing her. Don't get your hopes up. Her suffering in honest-to-godly delicious. Have you seen my sig btw?


It all makes sense now: Caster has a MAL account.
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robis798 said:
Mangalist-san said:


who the fucked told you Saber is the strongest servant?


Well I don't remember exactly where I heard that she is the strongest, but it was mentioned more than once and she is getting beaten up a lot of the times.

And am I the only one that is not enjoying her getting beat up? :D

Again, the class is the strongest, technically. However, Saber is hindered by having Shirou as a master. And again, she had all the spotlight in Fate, so she's marginalized here.
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kokusho36 said:
dankickyou said:
When Berserkcar grabbed Saber's sword in ep 3 she released Invisible Air and fried his ass but when Kuzuki does she acts like an idiot and just stares at him. Stupid, inconsistent 12 year old child writing. Not even mentioning the asspull of Shirou randomly getting shonen powerups like its fuckin Naruto or something. After watching such a mature and adult show like F/Z I was expecting another masterpiece. Too bad I'm left with this shonenshit!

Am I doing this right, guys? Senpai, pls notice me. Also this episode was boner-of-my-sword/10


So original, so mindblowing, 10/10. Everyone who complains about F/SN is just a F/Z fanboy who doesn't understand that F/Z is just side material, right?

Thank god there's finally someone who points this out, it's not like every criticism is immediately answered by 5 different sarcastic priests.


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mira-lala said:
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who the fucked told you Saber is the strongest servant?


She is tho. As far as WE know.

Rin said Saber is the strongest class. She quickly threw that theory out the window when Berserker showed up.
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robis798 said:


Well I don't remember exactly where I heard that she is the strongest, but it was mentioned more than once and she is getting beaten up a lot of the times.

And am I the only one that is not enjoying her getting beat up? :D

Again, the class is the strongest, technically. However, Saber is hindered by having Shirou as a master. And again, she had all the spotlight in Fate, so she's marginalized here.


Oh, got it. That's right she is hindered by that weak ass harem lead ( sarcasm pls don't kill )

But she was injured throughout F/Z also...
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robis798 said:
Nice episode, but when is Saber going to kick someone's ass? Isn't she the strongest servant? ( excluding berserker, idk )

In the case it wasn't obvious from episode 1, Shirou is a bad master and Saber cannot use her full powers due to him. Incomplete summoning as well IIRC.
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robis798 said:


And am I the only one that is not enjoying her getting beat up? :D

Yes. Everyone loves seeing Saber get beaten up because of pity kick the dog moe that Saber is best at.
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InsertPriestHere said:
robis798 said:


Well I don't remember exactly where I heard that she is the strongest, but it was mentioned more than once and she is getting beaten up a lot of the times.

And am I the only one that is not enjoying her getting beat up? :D

Again, the class is the strongest, technically. However, Saber is hindered by having Shirou as a master. And again, she had all the spotlight in Fate, so she's marginalized here.
Taking the spotlight in Fate doesn't make her weak tho.

Saber class is not the strongest, it's just the most balanced in terms of stats.
But stats also depend on the Master.

You also need to remember that the heroic spirit's legend is important (basically their combat skills and abilities/Noble Phantasms). Unfortunately for Saber, the other Servants are God-tier in this war so simply being strong won't be enough.
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She didn't kick Berserker's ass though, that was a team effort.
That's the VN.
In the anime she took one of his lives.


Yeah I'm pretty sure that wasn't in the VN, oh well it's okay Berserker's lives don't matter as he can restore them all in 3 days.
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It just proves that best girl needs to be nerfed for her not to curbstomp.Kek.


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When Nasu decided to stop nerfing her. Don't get your hopes up. Her suffering in honest-to-godly delicious. Have you seen my sig btw?


It all makes sense now: Caster has a MAL account.


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