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Dec 13, 2014 11:12 AM

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Saber got rekt just like she needed to be. Kuzuki best man.

The projection sequence was gorgeous too, but I do realize it would've been even better if there'd been at the very least a tiny bit of foreshadowing in the previous episodes.
Nevermind, still great.

And I agree with Maerow : ufo's Shirou looks terrifically good, but without that "generic bishie" vibe anime boys who're supposed to be attractive usually give off.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Dec 13, 2014 11:12 AM

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Holy shit, this was good episode. Kuzuki sensei just cleaning them up like trash. And shirou, using projection was pretty badass.
5/5.
Dec 13, 2014 11:14 AM

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GangstaPriest said:
Saber got rekt just like she needed to be.

:(
y u so cruel?
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Dec 13, 2014 11:14 AM

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TheDodo said:
What I got from this episode: Shirou > Saber.
You got that damn right.
Dec 13, 2014 11:16 AM

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The dream was pretty damn cool, but it would've been better if it'd been Archer saying the chant in English. The flashbacks looked awesome. The fact that Rin said the chant was kind of interesting in its own way though, because it emphasizes the fact that she'd seen it in her dreams before.

Like other people, I think the animation of Shirou's projection was a bit too flashy and he twisted a bit too much. It could have looked amazing if they'd been more subtle - they could have shown his magical circuits briefly, then them going crazy inside his body, and his body trembling or something. His limbs jerking and thrashing around didn't look too good. Still, that moment was really epic. Maybe a bit of a shounen-like development for those who haven't read Fate, but I don't care about that.

This episode wasn't that faithful to the novel - like Rin eavesdropping scene, which didn't take place in the novel -, but it was great anyway. Maybe they wanted to keep that part short to fit it all in. I mean, they even skipped the op this time around.

VanishingKira said:
Nice,a good episode for once.

Asspull by Shirou but whatever since it fit the intense atmosphere and was actually awesome (and got me excited) for once.Reminded me/reminiscence of the vibes I had watching F/Z.

Not really. I mean, yeah, you could argue there wasn't enough foreshawdoing as an anime viewer, but that's nothing new for those who read Fate. The projection technique is presented and showcased extensively in Fate - which you must read before UBW in the novel - along with the fact that Shirou can perform it.

In other words, it looks like an asspull only if you skipped Fate. UBW is the second part of the novel, which wasn't written for anime viewers. So basically, you could critize the adaptation, but the story as a whole (Fate + UBW + HF) is perfectly fine in that regard.
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Dec 13, 2014 11:16 AM
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TheDodo said:
What I got from this episode: Shirou > Saber. I thought it was the other way around.. :D
Kuzuki was just surprised that Shrou was able to project swords. Shirou was also trying his hardest to block and parry Kuzuki's shots after seeing him fight. Kuzuki's element of surprise was gone after he rekt Saber.
Dec 13, 2014 11:17 AM

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Forgetfulness said:
On a side note I really didn't like the faces this episode. Saber getting choked, Shirou w/ a bloody nose and messed up eye, etc.

Well I guess that's only how it should be, but eh....his Projection was harder to take seriously for me :/


I think the lightning had more to do with me not taking his Tracing as seriously, but eh, to each his own lol.
Dec 13, 2014 11:17 AM

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Sensei and his lessons...
Dec 13, 2014 11:17 AM
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Caster's master is skilled O.o and Shirou was awesome this episode :3

5/5 like always :3
Dec 13, 2014 11:18 AM

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It's a good thing that Kuzuki only had to fight a little girl. If I fought him instead of Saber, his ass would get kicked so fast, you would think he's Kiritsugu.

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Dec 13, 2014 11:19 AM

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Shirou vs Kuzuki was definitely the best part of the chapter. The animation, soundtrack and build up for that moment was incredible.

Besides that, Archer's flashback and sexy-blonde-who-cannot-be-named-here appearance were the highlights of the episode. Certainly a lot better than last week one and it will only get better from here if they keep the quality that they have shown thus far.
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Forgetfulness said:
Kami_no_Kage said:


I think the lightning had more to do with me not taking his Tracing as seriously, but eh, to each his own lol.
I mean it was a combination of the unnecessary effects, his shounen like speech beforehand, screaming, his face, etc.


This particular scene was definitely better in the VN I think.
Dec 13, 2014 11:21 AM

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Predator missile ready for deployment.

That's how it would go if Tohska had MORE MONEY.
Dec 13, 2014 11:22 AM

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Forgetfulness said:
On a side note I really didn't like the faces this episode. Saber getting choked, Shirou w/ a bloody nose and messed up eye, etc.
In these twos' defense, you're not supposed to look good when you get choked or used as a punching ball by a retired assassin master of hebi kungfu with magically reinforced fists.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Dec 13, 2014 11:24 AM

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Holy..
Dang.. Dat Shirou and Kuzuki scene..
Love all that sparks..
Dec 13, 2014 11:26 AM

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FlameseeK said:

This episode wasn't that faithful to the novel - like Rin eavesdropping scene, which didn't take place in the novel -, but it was great anyway. Maybe they wanted to keep that part short to fit it all in. I mean, they even skipped the op this time around.

They needed to make up for Issei not mentioning Caster to Shirou the previous episode.
And I'm not sure about the OP-it may just have been the subbing site you used. There was a blank out, after all.
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Predator missile ready for deployment.

That's how it would go if Tohska had MORE MONEY.

Heh
Dec 13, 2014 11:27 AM

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Forgetfulness said:
Kami_no_Kage said:


I think the lightning had more to do with me not taking his Tracing as seriously, but eh, to each his own lol.
I mean it was a combination of the unnecessary effects, his shounen like speech beforehand, screaming, his face, etc.

Yeah.

In VN it felt emotional and desperate.
In this it was like they just copied over something from nardo.
Dec 13, 2014 11:29 AM

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TrueKireiPriest said:
It's a good thing that Kuzuki only had to fight a little girl. If I fought him instead of Saber, his ass would get kicked so fast, you would think he's Kiritsugu.

"Okay post, not the best. 11/10 would read again" - IGN
Dec 13, 2014 11:31 AM

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CookingPriest said:
Forgetfulness said:
I mean it was a combination of the unnecessary effects, his shounen like speech beforehand, screaming, his face, etc.

Yeah.

In VN it felt emotional and desperate.
In this it was like they just copied over something from nardo.
I don't see what's so bad about a bit of "shounenism" (or whatever the fuck you call it) from time to time.
Just embrace the tiny bit of cheesiness and let yourself get hyped by the badass powerup, that's all.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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TrueKireiPriest said:
It's a good thing that Kuzuki only had to fight a little girl. If I fought him instead of Saber, his ass would get kicked so fast, you would think he's Kiritsugu.



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Dec 13, 2014 11:31 AM

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I haven't read the VN, but only the UBW movie before.
Dec 13, 2014 11:33 AM

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Rayster said:
I haven't read the VN, but only the UBW movie before.

Well the VN route is 30+ hours long and they tried to condense that into a less than 2 hour long movie, I'd say they were doomed to fail and leave out important details from the start.
Dec 13, 2014 11:34 AM

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Saber has magic resistance yet Caster still insists on finishing her off.. yet doesn't actually finish her off. Just stands there and does nothing. Cool.

Where is Archer? D: When he said he's going to watch over her from the shadows until she's herself again was he actually willing to just watch her die?
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Dec 13, 2014 11:35 AM
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Ah I see, using the element of surprise they injured saber with the first blow. Makes more sense right u_u
Have mixed feelings about shirou going super saiyan 2.

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Dec 13, 2014 11:36 AM

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Rayster said:
I haven't read the VN, but only the UBW movie before.


The movie is in complete disorder like Rider first apparition and her death happen at the same time and before the Archer vs Caster ( and the movie is rushed and bad)
Dec 13, 2014 11:37 AM

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InsertPriestHere said:
FlameseeK said:

This episode wasn't that faithful to the novel - like Rin eavesdropping scene, which didn't take place in the novel -, but it was great anyway. Maybe they wanted to keep that part short to fit it all in. I mean, they even skipped the op this time around.

They needed to make up for Issei not mentioning Caster to Shirou the previous episode.
And I'm not sure about the OP-it may just have been the subbing site you used. There was a blank out, after all.

If they didn't skip the OP, then it definitely was the site, but they episode is 23 minutes and 40 seconds long, just like any other episode... so they DID make it longer.

And yeah, I remember quite well Issei didn't say anything about caster in the other episode. My point is, they didn't need to change the scene like that because they still talk about her again anyway iirc. So my guess is they wanted to keep things shorter and thought that change was fitting.
Dec 13, 2014 11:37 AM

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Vexper said:
Saber has magic resistance yet Caster still insists on finishing her off.. yet doesn't actually finish her off. Just stands there and does nothing. Cool.

Where is Archer? D: When he said he's going to watch over her from the shadows until she's herself again was he actually willing to just watch her die?


lol @ the first part.

I, also miss Aachaa~ ;_;
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Dec 13, 2014 11:38 AM
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Rayster said:
I haven't read the VN, but only the UBW movie before.
That scene is gonna happen in the end of the first half, the movie skipped over a lot of stuff.
Dec 13, 2014 11:39 AM

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At this point, we're gonna need the OP to include a "Don't say the blonde man's name!" in his post. @_@
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
Dec 13, 2014 11:39 AM

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What a fantastic episode. Loved every minute of the series so far. Every little bit of it. Infinitely times better than the original adaption, no doubt. I'm starting to even like this more than Zero, but I can't be too sure yet. They're about even right now for me.
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Vexper said:
Saber has magic resistance yet Caster still insists on finishing her off.. yet doesn't actually finish her off. Just stands there and does nothing. Cool.

Where is Archer? D: When he said he's going to watch over her from the shadows until she's herself again was he actually willing to just watch her die?

She had a plan for Saber, having to do with her dagger which will be revealed eventually. Also those events actually occur around the same time, with Kuzuki's fight being more fast paced than Caster approaching Saber, so she was distracted by it and didn't have time to execute said plan.

Rin said she left Archer at home; to keep him away from Caster (and Shirou).
Dec 13, 2014 11:39 AM
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Vexper said:
Saber has magic resistance yet Caster still insists on finishing her off.. yet doesn't actually finish her off. Just stands there and does nothing. Cool.

Where is Archer? D: When he said he's going to watch over her from the shadows until she's herself again was he actually willing to just watch her die?
Well she did have that ominous dagger, I wonder what that would do.
Dec 13, 2014 11:41 AM

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This gotta hurt :(

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I like the fact that Shirou is showing that much concern for Rin. I felt his attraction towards her was missing in the previous episode near Sakura's house.
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JabonHR said:
At this point, we're gonna need the OP to include a "Don't say the blonde man's name!" in his post. @_@

The Kerry thing was a spoiler too.
Dec 13, 2014 11:42 AM
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F/Z secondaries should be glad that Saber is finally put in her place after all the praise she gets in FSN, the place where Shinji and Goldie were standing should also be familiar.



They didn't really emphasize on Shirou and Tohsaka being shocked beyond belief when they saw Saber get rekt by Kuzuki like in the VN.
And that whole scene felt rather short imo. Great episode nonetheless.
Dec 13, 2014 11:45 AM

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I like the fact that Shirou is showing that much concern for Rin. I felt his attraction towards her was missing in the previous episode near Sakura's house.


If htey adapted his monologues correctly, we would have seen a lot more of it.

GangstaPriest said:
]I don't see what's so bad about a bit of "shounenism" (or whatever the fuck you call it) from time to time.
Just embrace the tiny bit of cheesiness and let yourself get hyped by the badass powerup, that's all.


It does not fit the tone and atmosphere and butchers Shirou's personality.
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Vexper said:
Saber has magic resistance yet Caster still insists on finishing her off.. yet doesn't actually finish her off. Just stands there and does nothing. Cool.

Where is Archer? D: When he said he's going to watch over her from the shadows until she's herself again was he actually willing to just watch her die?

We can only assume Caster and Saber froze in time during that battle. Jokes aside, even if it's no excuse, you'll understand more about Caster as the story goes on. Since this is not a visual novel, the only option you guys have is to be patient and wait.

If you pay attention to the conversation between Rin and Archer, you'll see more than one reason for Rin not to bring him along. She doesn't say those things to Shirou when he asks her about that though, so you could say they're subtle reasons, but they're clearly there.
Dec 13, 2014 11:46 AM
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Best episode so far imo. They did that fight extremely well. And the best character ever talked. That alone saved this week.
Dec 13, 2014 11:47 AM
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Isn't A class Magic resistance the most basic ability to the Saber class?
How does Caster not know that?
Dec 13, 2014 11:48 AM

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Drake1000 said:


They didn't really emphasize on Shirou and Tohsaka being shocked beyond belief when they saw Saber get rekt by Kuzuki like in the VN.
And that whole scene felt rather short imo. Great episode nonetheless.


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-kV- said:
I like the fact that Shirou is showing that much concern for Rin. I felt his attraction towards her was missing in the previous episode near Sakura's house.


His attraction for her has been missing for most of this anime.
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Drake1000 said:


They didn't really emphasize on Shirou and Tohsaka being shocked beyond belief when they saw Saber get rekt by Kuzuki like in the VN.
And that whole scene felt rather short imo. Great episode nonetheless.


i no rite?

Not enough.

Oh yeah in the VN, Shirou's reasoning for coming out quickly to face Caster is because if he didn't she would destroy the entire area if he didn't come sooner. Seems like Archer didn't tell Tohsaka about that ability.
Ufotable yet again disregarding the informations in the monologues.
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Dec 13, 2014 11:51 AM

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Drake1000 said:
Isn't A class Magic resistance the most basic ability to the Saber class?
How does Caster not know that?

It's not an ability of the class-while the Saber class servants do have innate magic resistance, this one's resistance at rank A is particularly high, Caster was more so shocked seeing as Saber was able to
Dec 13, 2014 11:55 AM

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BotatoPriest said:
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I thought she's called him by his first name before in the anime.
She did? I can't recall tbh. All I remember is "Emiya-kun."
Plenty of times already. She said his name after the fight with Berserker and before they fought in the school. Seems like she always goes to calling him Shirou when she loses her cool.
Dec 13, 2014 12:00 PM

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>all dem rules and restrictions

It's sure difficult as hell post in this thread, no?


Like, Kobayashi Maru level difficult.
Dec 13, 2014 12:02 PM

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Kuzuki best history teacher.
Dec 13, 2014 12:04 PM

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- The dream was awesome
- Saber got tossed around = 5/5
- Shirou's first projection
- Caster in the HA outfit 5/5
- Kuzuki being awesome as he is
- Shirou worrying for the best girl

Only bad point is, those projection might come quite as DEM for the non VN readers, but who cares, awesome episode
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