| After asking my gorgeous religion teacher, the answer I got was around: "Faith is questioning, it is about doubt and seeking for answers, to question is to have faith, there is no faith without doubt" I just came up with the words now but what he said was very close to it. I just didn't understand what he meant, I just nodded to him and asked to sit on his lap, I didn't take the opportunity to ask him more because I didn't want to look like and idiot. Can someone explain me what is faith then? |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
| Wait what? you sat on your teachers lap? I'm pretty sure he'd get in HUGE trouble for that. Don't think about it too much, religion itself is very bullshity. That was just a fancy way of him saying "its that to help us understand things we can't explain" Which we can now, in 2014 which is why religion should just die. |
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j0x said: i think wikipedia is reliable about it Faith is belief that is not based on proof. It can also be defined as confidence or trust in a person, thing, deity, view, or in the doctrines or teachings of a religion, as well as confidence based on some degree of warrant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith Anyone can edit wikipedia sorry. Democracy said: Wait what? you sat on your teachers lap? I'm pretty sure he'd get in HUGE trouble for that. Don't think about it too much, religion itself is very bullshity. That was just a fancy way of him saying "its that to help us understand things we can't explain" Which we can now, in 2014 which is why religion should just die. No he won't because I didn't really sit, I just said that to change the subject since I didn't want to look like a fool. And the rest of your post is deeply offensive, I think YOU should just die, scum. japvn said: Maybe you should have asked him more and find out if he is an idiot. He is also a philosophy major |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
| That's exactly what a blind religious person would say, you'll change your mind after you get molested by your religion teacher, friend. |
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| Faith is when you blindly believe in something with no good reason or proof |
| The true faith is an everlasting bliss of infinite anime. When one becomes a true believer of 2-D, they will be freed from the sins of earth, the trials of humanity, and the terror of 3D. By embracing the caressing warmth of anime, mankind will discover the next world that exists within our current. Within the self is the anime devotee waiting to be released into the paradise of moe. Know that there are many heretic sects and many false roads, but if your heart holds true to the ideal of 2D, there will be salvation for you at the end. Through heartfelt and meaningful struggle you will overcome all worldly existance and arrive in the plane of two: of truth and awesome. By reaching this plane you will be granted everlasting life within the realm of impossibility. Only in the world of 2D does the impossible become the possible, and it is through a replication of this holy passage that we might hope to saved from sorrow. In your heart lies anime. In your mind lies anime. In your eyes lies anime. From screen to screen: a reflection of neverending light; a reflection of a reflection. From this whisper of ultimate truth we find the purest emotions and subsume all life at once; releasing ourselves from the faulty coil of flesh. In anime, faith. In faith, anime. Believe in anime. |
| Faith is knowing this thread might get locked like the last religious thread. |
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PsychoPriest said: Then he must be familiar with the Socratic methodjapvn said: He is also a philosophy majorMaybe you should have asked him more and find out if he is an idiot. |
Democracy said: That's exactly what a blind religious person would say, you'll change your mind after you get molested by your religion teacher, friend. You're banned from my thread Qans said: Faith is when you blindly believe in something with no good reason or proof No it isn't. Otherwise people wouldn't have faith. If they have faith it is because they found a good reason to. A good reason doesn't necesserily implies a true and right reason, (see arabs belief for Alah instead of god for example) |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
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Democracy said: That's exactly what a blind religious person would say, you'll change your mind after you get molested by your religion teacher, friend. May or may not have already happened judging by the opening post. |
| An inspirited desideratum. |
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japvn said: PsychoPriest said: Then he must be familiar with the Socratic methodHe is also a philosophy major As he is with the following picture: And I want the trolls to leave |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
| I'm actually not trolling, as you can see most of the people agree. Faith is blind and it's a fact that is was created to explain things that humans didn't have the means to explain at the time. Such as evolution and how the world was created. You're can be religious if you want but that wont change the fact that it's an outdated gimmick. |
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Democracy said: I'm actually not trolling, as you can see most of the people agree. Faith is blind and it's a fact that is was created to explain things that humans didn't have the means to explain at the time. Such as evolution and how the world was created. You're can be religious if you want but that wont change the fact that it's an outdated gimmick. I wasn't calling you a troll, you 're just a rebellious teenager, it will go away with age. Are you saying it requires faith to believe in evolution and how the world was created? Please don't compare the two. j0x said: PsychoPriest said: Anyone can edit wikipedia sorry. wikipedia has footnotes or references to what they are talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith#Notes This still doesn't explain what he said |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
| Firm Assurance In The Heart |
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| I am not a teenager, I just know for a fact the bible is as real as any other book you can find in a library. I mean if Jesus was real why cant Santa Clause be real? Because his deeds are in a different book? Realistically speaking a man turning water into wine, splitting an ocean in half and curing a disease with just his touch is as believable as a fat man being able to go down 30 million chimneys in a couple of hours. |
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PsychoPriest said: After asking my gorgeous religion teacher, the answer I got was around: "Faith is questioning, it is about doubt and seeking for answers, to question is to have faith, there is no faith without doubt" I just came up with the words now but what he said was very close to it. I just didn't understand what he meant, I just nodded to him and asked to sit on his lap, I didn't take the opportunity to ask him more because I didn't want to look like and idiot. Can someone explain me what is faith then? Faith is when you choose to believe in something or someone even when doubt creeps up on you. What your bro said was that "believing" in God and having "faith" in God are two different things. In the "believing" instance, there is no questioning and no second thought, it isn't a likely scenario for anyone and anyone who lives this way would be easily manipulated to begin with. In the "faith" instance, the person has given some, or quite a bit of, thought to the matter, and regardless of what doubts have arisen they have remained with their belief. Essentially, faith itself isn't doubt, but you don't have faith if you don't have doubt. In essence, faith requires doubt to exist. Belief doesn't require doubt, things like believing you exist, fire hurts when you touch it, there's no doubt to those claims, and so you believe them without second thoughts. Also, off-topic: Wikipedia is a reliable source of information. Not just "anyone" can edit it, and not just anyone will edit should they have the opportunity. Knowledge people tend to edit it, and those with ulterior motives are banned from editing. If you're to look for information there is no better source than the internet. There can be lies and misinformation, however books are no exception to this rule, but the internet has the added functionality of letting you research further. |
| Great post Trashnuva, you summed it up very well.. Democracy said: I am not a teenager, I just know for a fact the bible is as real as any other book you can find in a library. I mean if Jesus was real why cant Santa Clause be real? Because his deeds are in a different book? Realistically speaking a man turning water into wine, splitting an ocean in half and curing a disease with just his touch is as believable as a fat man being able to go down 30 million chimneys in a couple of hours. Symbolic things like these aren't meant to be taken literally, you demonstrate terribly lacklusting knowledge on the issue |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
| There's this crazy website that's revolutionizing the internet called google. I believe this new website may be able to answer your questions. |
PsychoPriest said: Great post Trashnuva, you summed it up very well.. Democracy said: I am not a teenager, I just know for a fact the bible is as real as any other book you can find in a library. I mean if Jesus was real why cant Santa Clause be real? Because his deeds are in a different book? Realistically speaking a man turning water into wine, splitting an ocean in half and curing a disease with just his touch is as believable as a fat man being able to go down 30 million chimneys in a couple of hours. Symbolic things like these aren't meant to be taken literally, you demonstrate terribly lacklusting knowledge on the issue Except they are taken literally by people who would have you take them literally. There are a group of religious people who look at the Bible as a teaching tool, and a group of people religious people who look at the Bible as literal documentation. I'm honestly not sure which number is greater, but the literal side is much more outspoken. |
The_Dust_Eater said: There's this crazy website that's revolutionizing the internet called google. I believe this new website may be able to answer your questions. Cool, let's get rid of mal forums while we're at it. |
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PsychoPriest said: Democracy said: I am not a teenager, I just know for a fact the bible is as real as any other book you can find in a library. I mean if Jesus was real why cant Santa Clause be real? Because his deeds are in a different book? Realistically speaking a man turning water into wine, splitting an ocean in half and curing a disease with just his touch is as believable as a fat man being able to go down 30 million chimneys in a couple of hours. Symbolic things like these aren't meant to be taken literally, you demonstrate terribly lacklusting knowledge on the issue I've yet to see you say anything that makes any kind of logical sense, all I see is someone who has a crush on their teacher and for some reason is seeing him as some sort of prophet. There are many many many ways to prove everything in the bible is made up yet there is absolutely 0 physical evidence that the man known as Jesus ever did anything other than get famous and get crucified. |
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Democracy said: I've yet to see you say anything that makes any kind of logical sense, all I see is someone who has a crush on their teacher and for some reason is seeing him as some sort of prophet. There are many many many ways to prove everything in the bible is made up yet there is absolutely 0 physical evidence that the man known as Jesus ever did anything other than get famous and get crucified. my crush on my teacher is irrelevant to this is completely irrelevant, you're commiting a fallacy called ad-hominenst. There are many many many ways to prove everything in the bible is made up Go ahead then, show me one out of these many many many ways. |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
PsychoPriest said: Go ahead then, show me one out of these many many many ways.
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| Do you really need me to explain to you how it is physically impossible for a human to "pull a Jesus"? Ill name 2 examples of things that you don't even need to look up to prove they are impossible. 1- A virgin getting pregnant, babies need a mommy and a daddy. 2- When someone dies they brain also dies, there have been cases where humans have died but were resurrected by medical devices (CLEAR! Bzzzzt!) but too many of their brain cells had died in a matter of minutes so when they were ressurected they remained in a vegetable state. |
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Thrashinuva said: PsychoPriest said: Go ahead then, show me one out of these many many many ways.
Also what's with the sudden side change? I thought you were on religious side |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
rothrock said: Correct, that is the next step.The_Dust_Eater said: There's this crazy website that's revolutionizing the internet called google. I believe this new website may be able to answer your questions. Cool, let's get rid of mal forums while we're at it. |
Democracy said: Do you really need me to explain to you how it is physically impossible for a human to "pull a Jesus"? Ill name 2 examples of things that you don't even need to look up to prove they are impossible. 1- A virgin getting pregnant, babies need a mommy and a daddy. 2- When someone dies they brain also dies, there have been cases where humans have died but were resurrected by medical devices (CLEAR! Bzzzzt!) but too many of their brain cells had died in a matter of minutes so when they were ressurected they remained in a vegetable state. 1- You can't be this dumb, please tell me you're a failure troll like your atheist friend katsucats. I can't believe I just read this, I refuse to believe 2- Explain near death experience if you're so confident of your materialistic world views |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
| Just accept it kid, your teachers are teaching you religion because its their job. I went to a catholic school all my life, so I can't hate you for it but we were all smart enough to understand that the bible is just one of many books. There are many many religions in this world and none of them agree on anything. Some are even made because they felt like X didnt belong. And you're not defending your argument you're just being immature now. |
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| As for the near death experiences it is a drug released when your near death that causes the hallucinations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine Also, assuming they were real every religion claims has them so how is yours more credible than another? |
Democracy said: If you cut the cable that connects a computer to a monitor it will also be unoperable (vegetable state). Whay's your point?2- When someone dies they brain also dies, there have been cases where humans have died but were resurrected by medical devices (CLEAR! Bzzzzt!) but too many of their brain cells had died in a matter of minutes so when they were ressurected they remained in a vegetable state. If you damage what connects your mind to the material world of course it will be unoperable on the material world |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
Democracy said: Just accept it kid, your teachers are teaching you religion because its their job. I went to a catholic school all my life, so I can't hate you for it but we were all smart enough to understand that the bible is just one of many books. There are many many religions in this world and none of them agree on anything. Some are even made because they felt like X didnt belong. And you're not defending your argument you're just being immature now. Explain how did the universe came out of nowhere. Things happen my friend and why do you call me a kid? Just how much hominem can you add? |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
bolbyinc said: As for the near death experiences it is a drug released when your near death that causes the hallucinations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine Also, assuming they were real every religion claims has them so how is yours more credible than another? It means that the dimension that we are able to detect isn't all there is in existence. It adds support to it that's all. Also >wikipedia >bolbyinc >bob >code geass on favorite |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
| If your profile is accurate you were born 11 years ago, making you a kid. Did you really just compare a human brain to a computer? I rest my case. The Pope can't prove God is real, I don't think you can neither. |
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| I think I missed the part about alternative dimensions in science class. |
Democracy said: If your profile is accurate you were born 11 years ago, making you a kid. Did you really just compare a human brain to a computer? I rest my case. The Pope can't prove God is real, I don't think you can neither. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kid See child, you're not a kid when you hit puberty. I rest my case too, some people can't argue with logic it seems. Team autism (mods) have my permission to lock this thread. |
| To think is the living of the believer. To believe, is to think. pw: qwertyuiop |
| You have said absolutely nothing logical and I have done nothing but. What sorcery is this?? If you want them to close it you need to Report the thread and ask them to close it. |
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