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Aug 27, 2014 9:59 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Kuro is pretty cute when she blushes ;o

I'm glad to see action picking up a bit again especially with Luvia. It looks like we have specialist Bazette to deal with. OST seemed a bit zany though. But yeah, I find this episode (second half) to be much better than the previous. They extended bits of the fight too. It didn't exactly end where I had predicted it might of been though. Still, Illya does know something strange is going on over at Luvia's place.

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Finally, we got to see some Bazett action animated.

The fight was nice. Auguste was humiliating himself with those firearms... He's the one that got served in the end.

I love seeing Bazett's awesome hand to hand combat abilities, she's such a BA. Can't forget her obligatory glove snap either.

Those allowances though... Too bad Luvia's mansion got trashed.
Aug 27, 2014 12:00 PM
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Great episode so far and no signs of anime-original ending in sight.

The fight was fucking great. Seeing Bazett animated is such a sight to behold. I hope ufotable does F/HA adaptation after FSN

And they ended the episode EXACTLY where i thought they would. Perfect ending for the episode.


Overall beyond epic episode. Very fitting complement to newest kaleid liner chapter in terms of badassery.
Aug 27, 2014 12:02 PM
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This show regularly change from yuri-lolis to fast-paced action. I think this episode is actually anime original, since I don't recall them showing Bazett curbstomping Luvia and co. Auguste going all Magus Killer doesn't seem to work against Bazett.

Don't know if it's translation error or script error but Bazett was described as an Enforcer from the Church, while in truth she is from the Association. Bugged me a little.

I do wonder if we will see Irisviel and Shirou interact with each other at all. They are mother and son after all.
Missing the times of Rewrite, good times.
Aug 27, 2014 12:02 PM
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I like how Irisviel came out of nowhere and asked Tohsaka and Luvia to show her around!
The moment Luvia took the lead to help Iris, I knew what her ulterior motive was. "Mother of Shero." XD

Observing from the bushes was pretty funny! Poor Taiga, never found out who was hiding in the school ground. XD
Kuro's blushing while Iris caressing her was cute. :3

When Iris said, "I know what you two truly want." I expected it to be Shirou. Guessed wrong but that would've been funny though!

Auguste is quite a capable butler; showed Bazett some good hospitality! Too bad, she's outclassed all his movements pretty easily.
I guess Luvia and Tohsaka got owned at the end too. Sh!t, she's badass!

Good episode. Another epic battle incoming next week!

Aug 27, 2014 12:09 PM
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This show regularly change from yuri-lolis to fast-paced action. I think this episode is actually anime original, since I don't recall them showing Bazett curbstomping Luvia and co. Auguste going all Magus Killer doesn't seem to work against Bazett.

Don't know if it's translation error or script error but Bazett was described as an Enforcer from the Church, while in truth she is from the Association. Bugged me a little.

I do wonder if we will see Irisviel and Shirou interact with each other at all. They are mother and son after all.


No its not anime original. We see most of that in panels, they just expanded it quite a bit int erms of fighting, the way they tend to do it

Bazett is related to both church and MA, but yes she is MA's enforcer. Not sure how that line works, but most likely mistranslation.
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The dialogue DOES mention the (Magi )Association (Kyōkai), so yeah, sub mistake
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It was pretty funny to see Irisviel came out of nowhere and asked Rin and Luvia to show her around.

Auguste is sure one badass butler. The fight against Bazett was epic.
Aug 27, 2014 12:34 PM
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Bazett showing just how strong she is, Shirou was so lucky he didn't have to face her in the fifth war.
Aug 27, 2014 12:39 PM
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Finally, Bazett appears! Fight was intense, animations amazing!
Aug 27, 2014 12:43 PM

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F***N CLIFFHANGER!!! >.<!!

Bazett is finally here and wrecking some havoc :D Dat Auguste vs Bazett was awesome! What a butler. But Dat punch in the gut gotta hurt >~<

On another note...was quite cute seeing dere Kuro blushing after Irisviel patted her head <3 "Arata na Yoake" playing during that scene reminded me of Rin and Archer's goodbye T_T Irisviel really is such a mysterious woman though ^^;

Really can't wait for nxt ep. Time for the best fight of this season :3 Hope they don't use too much CG and focus on hand drawn like ep6 of S1.
Aug 27, 2014 12:45 PM

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Finally: Bazett <3
It's still sad since it's pretty sure F/HA will never get an anime adaption...
The fight was pretty epic, I really liked how Luvia, Auguste and Rin got totally owned xD
Next week will be even better.


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Bazett showing just how strong she is, Shirou was so lucky he didn't have to face her in the fifth war.
EVERYONE was lucky in the 5th.
Aug 27, 2014 12:48 PM

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Bazett made her appearance and as usual, or at least what you expect from her she made a mess.
Luvia and Rin had a hard time judging from the state of the house.
The question remains how are they doing and what is Bazett after.
Aug 27, 2014 12:48 PM

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Finally: Bazett <3
It's still sad since it's pretty sure F/HA will never get an anime adaption...
The fight was pretty epic, I really liked how Luvia, Auguste and Rin got totally owned xD
Next week will be even better.

I would say FHA adaptation after FSN is quite likely. They ARE doing multiple routes so FHA would make sense and ufotable is making the animation op for the FHA psvita re-release too.

So mst likely: FSN then FSN HF movies then FHA then (I hope) Fate/EXtra shaft anime, then Mahoyo, then Tsukihime VN remake, then Tsukihime anime.
Aug 27, 2014 12:53 PM

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Quite optimistic there Fai XD

Well we can only hope >.<
Aug 27, 2014 12:57 PM
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iyada kowai :o
Aug 27, 2014 1:37 PM

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Badass episode and entrance for Bazett. Auguste was awesome.
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Aug 27, 2014 1:37 PM

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Here my thoughts about the episode :

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/502801Sanstitre22.jpg

Seriously, it was great :o
Aug 27, 2014 1:46 PM
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Bazett=BOSS
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Here my thoughts about the episode :

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/502801Sanstitre22.jpg

Seriously, it was great :o


You made my day
Aug 27, 2014 1:50 PM
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Kaengel said:
Here my thoughts about the episode :

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/502801Sanstitre22.jpg

Seriously, it was great :o
did you do that yourself? :3
Aug 27, 2014 1:58 PM
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I alwas wondered since Bazzert so stronge as mainly a magi killer how did Keire kill her in the stay night since she was lancer orginal master.
Aug 27, 2014 2:04 PM

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Kirei pretended to be her friend and ally and backstabbed her, by immediately cutting off her arm, when she didn't pay attention. It happened so fast, she couldn't even call out Lancer.



As for this episode, More than half of the episode was anime original content or expanded scenes from the manga, but I don't mind that, since we will probably get a second cours for the rest of 2wei anyway and they will likely end this season with this fight. Also, the action was entertaining and fun.
Aug 27, 2014 2:07 PM

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Irisviel lol. Her head bobbing in and out of the bush.
Woah, Bazett total boss.
Auguste was awesome too
Fighting was real intense.
Aug 27, 2014 2:09 PM

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Kirei pretended to be her friend and ally and backstabbed her, by immediately cutting off her arm, when she didn't pay attention. It happened so fast, she couldn't even call out Lancer.



As for this episode, More than half of the episode was anime original content or expanded scenes from the manga, but I don't mind that, since we will probably get a second cours for the rest of 2wei anyway and they will likely end this season with this fight. Also, the action was entertaining and fun.


That content was kind of needed though since it serves the same purpose as Iris dialogue with Sella in S1 that they cut , down to "I will fight for their futures" part.
Aug 27, 2014 2:16 PM
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Tat was great, the fight extension made it better then in the manga, though bazzett didnt felt as cold and near machine-like like in the manga, i mean she was like a terminator in the manga, which felt more badass.

Also, im gonna ask this now since its gonna come up next ep
Aug 27, 2014 2:20 PM

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HaXXspetten said:
Kaengel said:
Here my thoughts about the episode :

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/502801Sanstitre22.jpg

Seriously, it was great :o
did you do that yourself? :3


Yes, just put some screenshot together and added the text. Making it was fun :p
Aug 27, 2014 2:24 PM

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Tat was great, the fight extension made it better then in the manga, though bazzett didnt felt as cold and near machine-like like in the manga, i mean she was like a terminator in the manga, which felt more badass.

Also, im gonna ask this now since its gonna come up next ep


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AllTJAck said:
Tat was great, the fight extension made it better then in the manga, though bazzett didnt felt as cold and near machine-like like in the manga, i mean she was like a terminator in the manga, which felt more badass.

Also, im gonna ask this now since its gonna come up next ep




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Fai said:


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Kaengel said:
Here my thoughts about the episode :

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/502801Sanstitre22.jpg

Seriously, it was great :o


So lol XD esp the "Is he an idiot? I dodged the bullets" XD
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C-Core said:
AllTJAck said:
Tat was great, the fight extension made it better then in the manga, though bazzett didnt felt as cold and near machine-like like in the manga, i mean she was like a terminator in the manga, which felt more badass.

Also, im gonna ask this now since its gonna come up next ep




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Fai said:




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Fai said:
AllTJAck said:
Tat was great, the fight extension made it better then in the manga, though bazzett didnt felt as cold and near machine-like like in the manga, i mean she was like a terminator in the manga, which felt more badass.

Also, im gonna ask this now since its gonna come up next ep




That i understand, what im confused about is the fact that in the manga
Aug 27, 2014 2:38 PM

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AllTJAck said:
Fai said:




That i understand, what im confused about is the fact that in the manga


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Fai said:
C-Core said:




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C-Core said:
Fai said:





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Have a nifty quote of a better translated scene from FHA.

Aug 27, 2014 3:28 PM

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damn rip auguste. i lost it at the flashbang and his magical tuxedo that kept pulling out shit from nowhere.

and kuro... HNGHHHH. definitely top 10 chars.
Aug 27, 2014 3:39 PM

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Oh boy, what a ride :D

So first things first we have a more lighthearted and comedic atmosphere with Iri-mama being awesome :3 (as usual).


Carrying Iri-mama and running the same way it happened with Kuro was funny xD


Then we get to the serious bits. A FUCKING AWESOME BAZETT APPEARS!! Character design is okay I guess, could be better though. Damn what a fight, Bazett too OP nerf pls. Seriously though Bazett is badass and with her appearance now I know the series will be using the epic express line from now on.

I mean, just look at this


Next episode, Bellerophon!

Overall it was fucking awesome, 5/5

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ElPysCongroo said:
Bazett showing just how strong she is, Shirou was so lucky he didn't have to face her in the fifth war.
EVERYONE was lucky in the 5th.
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C-Core said:
AllTJAck said:
Tat was great, the fight extension made it better then in the manga, though bazzett didnt felt as cold and near machine-like like in the manga, i mean she was like a terminator in the manga, which felt more badass.

Also, im gonna ask this now since its gonna come up next ep


[spoiler]It's not a mistranslation. It's actually even well explained in a panel how it works.

Fragarach is an ultimate Noble Phantasm that reverses time and hits the enemy's heart after they released their strongest attack. If Fragarach is used after Saber's Excalibur was released for instance, Fragarach goes back in time before Excalibur was used and kills Saber. It's a counter attack that will save Bazett from the double KO by only killing her enemy.

Now if she tries to use Fragarach's counter attack against her enemy, while she is cursed with the death-and-pain-slavery curse, she would share the pain with the user that she killed with Fragarach and dies too, which destroys the causality chain. Because then the death that is caused by Fragarach is the attack that she has to counter with Fragarach.
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I understood the mechanics of it its just the

Tat felt confusing just to type. Srry if this just became a full TM discussion cause of my curiosity
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AllTJAck said:
C-Core said:


[spoiler]It's not a mistranslation. It's actually even well explained in a panel how it works.

Fragarach is an ultimate Noble Phantasm that reverses time and hits the enemy's heart after they released their strongest attack. If Fragarach is used after Saber's Excalibur was released for instance, Fragarach goes back in time before Excalibur was used and kills Saber. It's a counter attack that will save Bazett from the double KO by only killing her enemy.

Now if she tries to use Fragarach's counter attack against her enemy, while she is cursed with the death-and-pain-slavery curse, she would share the pain with the user that she killed with Fragarach and dies too, which destroys the causality chain. Because then the death that is caused by Fragarach is the attack that she has to counter with Fragarach.

I understood the mechanics of it its just the

Tat felt confusing just to type. Srry if this just became a full TM discussion cause of my curiosity[/quote]

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@Causality talk:
Aug 27, 2014 4:25 PM
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Hmm. Iri asked Luvia and Rin to leave Illya and Chloe alone. It appears she didn't need to bother.

I'm assuming if Illya picked up on the fight, Iri certainly could as well...?
Aug 27, 2014 4:35 PM
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Yes thats why its weird to me because
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Illya merely sensed Rin, Luvia and her mother at school, hiding in the tree and bushes, but Kuro was completely aware of their presense.

But inside their house, Illya felt strange things from Luvia's mansion but Kuro felt nothing and said it was Illya's imagination.

What does these mean?
Aug 27, 2014 4:45 PM

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AllTJAck said:
Yes thats why its weird to me because


The wording is weird and more confusing, but still more or less correct.

Aug 27, 2014 4:49 PM

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I'm glad interesting plot is finally happening in this season.
I loved season one to death but, all of that bull about Kuro was so stupid. I could care less about her.
Plus the fight scenes are as well animated as ever. Keep it up.
Aug 27, 2014 4:52 PM

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Illya merely sensed Rin, Luvia and her mother at school, hiding in the tree and bushes, but Kuro was completely aware of their presense.

But inside their house, Illya felt strange things from Luvia's mansion but Kuro felt nothing and said it was Illya's imagination.

What does these mean?


That Illya is better at detecting magic, but Kuro's awareness overall is better.

The scenes with Kuro at the beginning are anime filler btw.
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I'm assuming if Illya picked up on the fight, Iri certainly could as well...?


We have no way to know where Iri was at the moment Bazzett entered Luvia's mansion, just like she popped at Illya's school she could have been outside Fuyuki (doing mage business or maybe just going to pick up her car from the mechanic).

Otherwise she would have noticed when the girls left the house at night.

BTW, I thought Chloe slept in Illyas room, but in this chapter the make it clear she has her own room, does anyone has any official floor plans of the house? It is way too convenient to have one empty room and I doubt they gave here Iri/Kiri's bedroom. Is she sleeping outside the house ala Glasslip? The house does not looks big enought to have five bedrooms.
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