Zankyou no Terror Episode 2 Discussion

5layer said:
Another good episode. More discussion and less action this time.

SunkenShip said:


Hmmm yeah if it doesn't improve at all, I don't see myself watching more. But then again I considered dropping it after the second episode yet here I am still on board lol.

I have a feeling she's gonna make an appearance next episode, probably near the end.

SkyJW said:
People who keep criticizing the "the terrorists said 2-4-3 instead of 4-2-3" aspect of this episode are totally missing out on two different things.

First off, Nine and Twelve explicitly meant for this riddle to be solved by the police. Not by the general public, not by the government of Japan or Tokyo, but instead specifically the police.

Which leads into my second point which is that people seem to be totally forgetting what they said AFTER giving the police the riddle: "If you solve the riddle, the next bomb is YOURS". The reason I'm highlighting "yours" in that quotation is because the bomb was quite literally for THEM. Because while the riddle they gave them was solved correctly and it sent them to the DNA facility, the bomb wasn't meant for that facility - it was meant for the police.

So when the police solved the riddle which was given to them correctly, they failed to find the bomb that was actually meant for them with the alternate "2-4-3" composition of the riddle. So the riddle the bombers gave the police was 100% correct according to the terms they laid out - you solve the riddle, the next bomb is YOURS.

ErenxMikasa said:
No one besides that one guy noticed that the video used the 2-4-3 progression? I find that hard to believe.

Samauri55ZeRo said:


Much stranger more oblivious things have happen in investigations. Then you may know.

Never underestimate the ability for people to see what they want to under pressure and nothing much else even for competent professionals and Japanese police enforcement is very different in terms of more then a few things socially. Especially in a group environment Bottom line compared to where Shiba works which is in a small, quiet space with little to no distraction. An ideal place for a single mind to look at everything and do so without conflict.

Though the real puzzlement is why didn't the boss not call Shiba knowing his abilities and more then likely continued hunger for more detective work..Even in Archives yet I can think of a few common sense reasons.

ErenxMikasa said:


However, the way they explain the riddle in the room very clearly reiterates the 4-2-3 nature of the original riddle, if any single one of them had thought for a moment how the video said 2-4-3, the riddle makes no sense anymore.

elberino said:
anyone know...

the sphinx's videos are reference to a real terrorist video?

ponygon123 said:
So does anybody know if the second variation of the riddle is actually a thing?
I mean in all fairness that second variation of the riddle is super hard to find if it is even a thing so that gives some reason that they could not find out the riddle.
I prefer if the terroist were older though but it is still pretty good.

BRK25 said:


Okay, so apparently old footage is someone discussing what is going on, using different camera cuts, new dialogue and expression from the artist. An in depth discussion by the police of the methods done by the terrorists. Oh, and let's not forget we have someone using a mac unlike last time combined with a different explosion site, this is nothing new? Right, this obviously is rehashed.



This isn't shounen where they milk the clock with pointless discussion or camera shots. Not only to add the director wouldn't be the oen to waste time when there is eleven episodes to be done.

_Rika said:

Ah, so finally someone who happens to think along the same lines as I do. Did the police just assume that the terrorists goofed up and intended to say 4-2-3 instead of 2-4-3? Why did it not strike them as fishy? Did they seriously think that the terrorists would give away such a big hint by asking them to solve a riddle whose answer can be looked up on the internet?

AICW said:
OK quick question if there are any Greek speakers here:

The episode made a big deal over the fact that the word Sphinx is pronounced "Spinks" instead of "Sfinx" as is normally done in English and that that is the proper Greek pronunciation.

Is that right?

Samauri55ZeRo said:


Just for future context, since there was nothing wrong with the two first episode's for anyone to drop this anime in my opinion unless it was not for them in the first place , but whatever. Though maybe you might be a masochist for sticking around or just hopeful. ; ₩

BRK25 said:
I like this more than Death Note.

I never liked the idea of some incredibly smart kid with no prior addition and stumping a world class detective. It irks me with how easy he manipulated others. He also didn't have much of a bad background and lived a normal life.

This is different. Wits and deliberate actions done with meticulous care against a country that wronged them....this is what I'm talking about. There's a huge motive under wraps and shit is going to go down. They obviously were raised to be at such a high level. More realistic to me.

BRK25 said:
I never liked some guy who just been taken hold of the book and goes crazy from his inner complex and need for perfection. I liked the disgusting human behavior he exhibited though. But I don't like how in depth he is. Now if this been in his college days, maybe. I know they went to college at a later part but jesus, at the age of seventeen and ripping apart professional police members is something that irked me and him going the right manner. A prodigy...of course! Only explanation! -_-

Great story telling though.

We're two episodes in and only hope we something goes right. Mostly due to the fact Shibasaki is playing a part and dead sure things are going to pick up and if the PV is anything to go off, he will be the center of the task of taking down these boys and reminds me of L. With the backing, no more mistakes.

Also have to say the police fuck up is the first time they were introduced. I really hope this is a one episode thing and improve under the backing of a detective.

skudoops said:
I can't really see Lisa being that relevant in the grand scheme of things to be honest. I've been thinking where she could fit in with all of this but she can't really be a moral compass for these guys or anything like that ( since they already haven't avoided killing peopled) and doesn't really have the knowledge or training to straight up join them (I'd imagine if she did they'd train her).

All things considered unless they really fuck up, at worst she is an annoying reluctant co-conspirator or a plot device (i.e getting kidnapped, killed or something like that). Hopefully she isn't a love interest or anything, that would be sorta lame considering how focused the guys seem to be.

OriginANIME said:
This is some next level shit!

lovexLuffy said:


Lmao. I concur.
I'm really hyped about this anime. It's so well made and just so damn interesting. I really wished it had more episodes!

Jerkhov said:


More episodes would kill an anime like this,Tense storylines shouldn't be dragged out unless absolutely necessary, infrequency is far more in line with reality.

Negatives aside, you never know about spin-offs.

TehSing said:
A little late maybe but I do have one complaint that needs voicing.

Anyone who is chosen to be on a team investigating a terrorist bombing knows what thermite and TOR are so it really bugs me when they waste so much time explaining them. First of all, it breaks me out of the narrative because it's like the writer's knocking on the screen and explaining it to me. Secondly it feels patronizing-- I know what TOR and thermite are and I know the police in the story should know so it's a little insulting that they have to break the narrative to spoon feed the audience. Am I the only one who gets bugged by this?

Other than that though I enjoyed the episode and am hopeful for the series. I just hope they cut back on the aforementioned nonsense.

4/5

I didn't had any clue what they were talking about yet the explanation was clear and helpful.

hivekiller said:
"you're a complicity, but you're not our friends."
Dat sure killed Lisa.

TehSing said:
A little late maybe but I do have one complaint that needs voicing.
Anyone who is chosen to be on a team investigating a terrorist bombing knows what thermite and TOR are so it really bugs me when they waste so much time explaining them.