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| Lots of power explanation this episode, but tons of fun character interactions as well. Zoldycks are such a loving family. We get our first actual interactions with Alluka too, and she is both cute and really creepy. She's like a weird play on the whole sister fetishism thing that permeates the medium -- not sure if that was intentional or not. Spoilers for the manga |
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SaSa-Zoldyck said: I'm getting on that theory train, so much foreshadowing . Yeahp, specially that part about Nanika being better at breaking than fixing. Very fitting O_O Starmac said: Lots of power explanation this episode, but tons of fun character interactions as well. Zoldycks are such a loving family. We get our first actual interactions with Alluka too, and she is both cute and really creepy. She's like a weird play on the whole sister fetishism thing that permeates the medium -- not sure if that was intentional or not. Spoilers for the manga Holy crap, this is good too. All aboard the theory hype train! |
jreginaldJul 22, 2014 9:48 PM
| lol so faking death can grant a request afterall, nice going Killua |
j0x said: lol so faking death can grant a request afterall, nice going Killua No, I'm pretty sure that when Alluka made that request, it was along the lines of "play dead" (reinforced by the hand gesture of a toy gun and the requests that came afterwards). The severity of the requests depend on how big the last wish was, and Milluki's computer was rather minor. |
jreginald said: SaSa-Zoldyck said: I'm getting on that theory train, so much foreshadowing . Yeahp, specially that part about Nanika being better at breaking than fixing. Very fitting O_O Starmac said: Lots of power explanation this episode, but tons of fun character interactions as well. Zoldycks are such a loving family. We get our first actual interactions with Alluka too, and she is both cute and really creepy. She's like a weird play on the whole sister fetishism thing that permeates the medium -- not sure if that was intentional or not. Spoilers for the manga Holy crap, this is good too. All aboard the theory hype train! Yeah, it's definitely looking very likely that this will be the case. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| as always a good episode!!! Loved Alluka and KIllua. Interesting rules. |
| "Laugh, and the world laughs with you; Weep, and you weep alone". Ella Wheeler Wilcox |
| I need moar Kikyo. |
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huntx said: I need moar Kikyo. Part of me wishes to see more of her, because she is arguably the most bat shit crazy character in the series. Which is really really saying something. Another part of me things she could become quite annoying if she had a lot of screen time. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Boku no Alluka |
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SaSa-Zoldyck said: I'm getting on that theory train, so much foreshadowing . that illumi hisoka scene was hilarious. illumi and his brother complex |
| Great episode. Nice to learn more about Alluka's ability. Leorio returns next week. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
insan3Spectre said: huntx said: I need moar Kikyo. Part of me wishes to see more of her, because she is arguably the most bat shit crazy character in the series. Which is really really saying something. Another part of me things she could become quite annoying if she had a lot of screen time. That might be true. But then when i think of a character that Togashi writes has bored or irritated me, i cant remember any. Look at Pouf, Ging and Partison, crazy fuckers and i love them the way they are. |
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| I've just noticed that among them 5 siblings, Killua's the only one who has silver hair. Can't help but be reminded of the kid from Ju-on, a popular Japanese horror film, whenever I see "something's" face. |
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Candor said: Nice Sailor Moon cameo there, Madhouse I haven't watched the Sailor Moon remake, but apparently they also had a cross-reference with |
huntx said: That might be true. But then when i think of a character that Togashi writes has bored or irritated me, i cant remember any. Look at Pouf, Ging and Partison, crazy fuckers and i love them the way they are. True, true. Pouf would be an excellent example of a character that could be annoying that I absolutely enjoyed. So, yeah, you could be right. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Keetriver said: Anyone else finding it increasingly bizarre Killua knew nothing about Nen until the Heaven's Tower Arc? -All this superpower shit that he knew about within the Zoldyck family, like Zeno's Dragon Dive and Alluka's wish granting, and he never questioned to his parents or relatives how it's all possible? -You'd think the Zoldyck family, being the greatest assassins with a huge reputation to live up to, would teach Killua Nen at an early age so he doesn't make a fool out of himself against the hundreds of Hunters and especially his first run at Heaven's Tower. And even more so especially since he was originally chosen as the successor. -Kalluto knows how to use Nen and he's younger than Killua, as well as being the less favored son. Arguably you could say that Zoldyck family decided to change their methods and teach him Nen early after Killua decided to leave with Gon, but its not like they abandoned Killua. Maybe I'm being too picky but it's making it harder to rewatch some earlier episodes He was forced to battle in the Heavens Arena at the age of 6 by Silva, in which he took two years to get to the 199th floor but he didn't go to the 200th so he didn't learn Nen. Silva told him to go back home after the he reach the 200th floor. If he did what Silva told him to do, he would have learn nen at the age of 6. |
GuilekJul 23, 2014 3:03 AM
Guilek said: Keetriver said: Anyone else finding it increasingly bizarre Killua knew nothing about Nen until the Heaven's Tower Arc? -All this superpower **** that he knew about within the Zoldyck family, like Zeno's Dragon Dive and Alluka's wish granting, and he never questioned to his parents or relatives how it's all possible? -You'd think the Zoldyck family, being the greatest assassins with a huge reputation to live up to, would teach Killua Nen at an early age so he doesn't make a fool out of himself against the hundreds of Hunters and especially his first run at Heaven's Tower. And even more so especially since he was originally chosen as the successor. -Kalluto knows how to use Nen and he's younger than Killua, as well as being the less favored son. Arguably you could say that Zoldyck family decided to change their methods and teach him Nen early after Killua decided to leave with Gon, but its not like they abandoned Killua. Maybe I'm being too picky but it's making it harder to rewatch some earlier episodes He was forced to battle in the Heavens Arena at the age of 6 by Silva, in which he took two years to get to the 199th floor but he didn't go to the 200th so he didn't learn Nen. Silva told him to go back home after the he reach the 200th floor. If he did what Silva told him to do, he would have learn nen at the age of 6. Correction- he did get to the 200th floor like he was supposed to; he just didn't fight on it. Still, it's not like Killua wasn't being taught anything. Where do you think his monsterous strength and assassination techniques came from? You can know about things without knowing what exactly they are. When he learned about nen, he probably had a moment where he thought, "Oh! That's what that was!" As for his lack of curiosity... Killua never really cared about killing, so he probably didn't care about the powers needed to kill either. That Silva had to have Illumi manipulate him with needles says a lot. |
| This show doesn't cease to amaze me. This episode is exactly the reason I changed my rating from 9 to 10 in the past. |
TripleSRank said: Killua was supposedly said to have not been as observational, sometime before he met Gon.Still, it's not like Killua wasn't being taught anything. Where do you think his monsterous strength and assassination techniques came from? You can know about things without knowing what exactly they are. When he learned about nen, he probably had a moment where he thought, "Oh! That's what that was!" As for his lack of curiosity... Killua never really cared about killing, so he probably didn't care about the powers needed to kill either. That Silva had to have Illumi manipulate him with needles says a lot. And, how could any Zoldyck member NOT know of the Dragon Dive ability? I don't think the Zoldycks function quite like the Phantom Troupe - where they trust one another enough to mostly keep each other's powers & abilities a secret among each individual self. As for Alluka's "Ne-" Allkuka: "BANG..! For spoilers." |
GalekCJul 23, 2014 4:31 AM
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Guilek said: Keetriver said: Anyone else finding it increasingly bizarre Killua knew nothing about Nen until the Heaven's Tower Arc? -All this superpower shit that he knew about within the Zoldyck family, like Zeno's Dragon Dive and Alluka's wish granting, and he never questioned to his parents or relatives how it's all possible? -You'd think the Zoldyck family, being the greatest assassins with a huge reputation to live up to, would teach Killua Nen at an early age so he doesn't make a fool out of himself against the hundreds of Hunters and especially his first run at Heaven's Tower. And even more so especially since he was originally chosen as the successor. -Kalluto knows how to use Nen and he's younger than Killua, as well as being the less favored son. Arguably you could say that Zoldyck family decided to change their methods and teach him Nen early after Killua decided to leave with Gon, but its not like they abandoned Killua. Maybe I'm being too picky but it's making it harder to rewatch some earlier episodes He was forced to battle in the Heavens Arena at the age of 6 by Silva, in which he took two years to get to the 199th floor but he didn't go to the 200th so he didn't learn Nen. Silva told him to go back home after the he reach the 200th floor. If he did what Silva told him to do, he would have learn nen at the age of 6. That makes no sense. If he'd gone to the 200th floor, someone could have killed him with nen. Him going to Heaven's Tower doesn't anything to do in the slightest as to why his family never taught him nen, which is the only major plot hole in Hunter x Hunter. |
Winter_Fox_Ryuko said: Guilek said: He was forced to battle in the Heavens Arena at the age of 6 by Silva, in which he took two years to get to the 199th floor but he didn't go to the 200th so he didn't learn Nen. Silva told him to go back home after the he reach the 200th floor. If he did what Silva told him to do, he would have learn nen at the age of 6. That makes no sense. If he'd gone to the 200th floor, someone could have killed him with nen. Him going to Heaven's Tower doesn't anything to do in the slightest as to why his family never taught him nen, which is the only major plot hole in Hunter x Hunter. they explain that nen must been awaken in a natural form not forced, to be more stronger, and they know that killua is not a mercenary killer like the rest of the zoldick, and remember that they give to him the training to be an electrical power user, that is not easy. |
| Poison, electricity could kill someone too. Silva told him to go to the 200th floor but he didn't fight there if he had done what his father told him, he'll have nen since the age of 6. |
| D'aww that ending c: |
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| This arc ... 10/10. Illumi x Hisoka best pairing, period. Leorio is back, yay. |
AizixJul 23, 2014 7:18 AM
| Finally we'll see Leorio <3 |
| Kawaii Kiss |
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| Episode felt abit slow for me Loved the CA reference to just how strong they were |
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GalekC said: TripleSRank said: Killua was supposedly said to have not been as observational, sometime before he met Gon.Still, it's not like Killua wasn't being taught anything. Where do you think his monsterous strength and assassination techniques came from? You can know about things without knowing what exactly they are. When he learned about nen, he probably had a moment where he thought, "Oh! That's what that was!" As for his lack of curiosity... Killua never really cared about killing, so he probably didn't care about the powers needed to kill either. That Silva had to have Illumi manipulate him with needles says a lot. And, how could any Zoldyck member NOT know of the Dragon Dive ability? I don't think the Zoldycks function quite like the Phantom Troupe - where they trust one another enough to mostly keep each other's powers & abilities a secret among each individual self. I'm sure he did know about it. In fact, he instantly recognized it in the Chimera Ant arc. What I'm saying is that just because he knew about the ability, that doesn't mean he knew what said ability was (nen) or how it worked (hatsu), nor does it mean he cared to find out. |
| Loved this ep and the last scene as well =D |
cabacc2 said: the top 12 hunters being dressed up as animals was a stupid idea. I cant take speaking cows seriously, I mean cmon. Who would do that? Why would they dress acordingly to their codenames? Are they retarded or something? As for their prove of admiration to Netero. With exception of Pariston and Ging who are troublesome and stubborn. They are pretty much like a fanboy/fangirl toward Netero.(Included Pariston and Ging this time). I think their design are fine, though. You probably over thinking things, i don't know. |
| Kalluto: Did my whole my family just forgot about me this episode? |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
cabacc2 said: the top 12 hunters being dressed up as animals was a stupid idea. I cant take speaking cows seriously, I mean cmon. Who would do that? Why would they dress acordingly to their codenames? Are they retarded or something? The contrast between their appearance and behavior is what actually made the Zodiacs interesting & amusing (to me at least). Also, Togashi has always been "lazy" when designing character. I mean, just look at the Bombers. They could literally stand in among the crowds of BG characters and I wouldn't recognize them due to their plain and dull design. So, I think Togashi is at his best when designing "silly" characters like the Zodiacs. Winter_Fox_Ryuko said: Guilek said: He was forced to battle in the Heavens Arena at the age of 6 by Silva, in which he took two years to get to the 199th floor but he didn't go to the 200th so he didn't learn Nen. Silva told him to go back home after the he reach the 200th floor. If he did what Silva told him to do, he would have learn nen at the age of 6. That makes no sense. If he'd gone to the 200th floor, someone could have killed him with nen. Him going to Heaven's Tower doesn't anything to do in the slightest as to why his family never taught him nen, which is the only major plot hole in Hunter x Hunter. Well, if Killua died just because of that, then he simply doesn't worth the title of Zoldyck's heir to begin with. Besides, Killua has developed extreme tolerance to pain (+ poison & electricity) due to the tortures and training he had to endure since birth. So, I'm sure Silva expected him to survive Nen attack especially, since 200th floor is the weakest floor of Nen user. |
LLawliedJul 23, 2014 11:37 AM
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Keetriver said: Anyone else finding it increasingly bizarre Killua knew nothing about Nen until the Heaven's Tower Arc? -All this superpower shit that he knew about within the Zoldyck family, like Zeno's Dragon Dive and Alluka's wish granting, and he never questioned to his parents or relatives how it's all possible? -You'd think the Zoldyck family, being the greatest assassins with a huge reputation to live up to, would teach Killua Nen at an early age so he doesn't make a fool out of himself against the hundreds of Hunters and especially his first run at Heaven's Tower. And even more so especially since he was originally chosen as the successor. -Kalluto knows how to use Nen and he's younger than Killua, as well as being the less favored son. Arguably you could say that Zoldyck family decided to change their methods and teach him Nen early after Killua decided to leave with Gon, but its not like they abandoned Killua. Maybe I'm being too picky but it's making it harder to rewatch some earlier episodes - Killua wasn't entirely clueless, he just didn't know that it was Nen. He always thought his brother (Illumi) had some sort of aura about him. - Are you sure that Alluka's "superpower" is even a Nen ability? Weren't you paying attention? Not even Silva knows where Nanika came from. - Why he knows about Zeno's Dragon Dive - Silva clearly instructed Killua to go home after reaching the 200th floor (Ch. 44). Probably BECAUSE they didn't want their successor to be maimed by Nen baptism. - Quoting TonyStark: Killua was groomed by Zeno & Silva, whereas Kalluto was groomed by Kikyo. Winter_Fox_Ryuko said: That makes no sense. If he'd gone to the 200th floor, someone could have killed him with nen. Him going to Heaven's Tower doesn't anything to do in the slightest as to why his family never taught him nen, which is the only major plot hole in Hunter x Hunter. There could have been plenty of possibilities: - They wanted to focus on Killua's physical/raw abilities - They didn't see a reason for him to learn Nen just yet - Killua ran away from home so there's a pretty good chance that he missed out on learning Nen. Also, for it to be a plothole there would have to be contradictions. No contradictions here, just questions with explanations. |
jreginaldJul 23, 2014 12:10 PM
| ^ didn't even think about that maybe it's one of the rules the family didnt know. something like 4 wishes and you can set a condition? |
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kleinerwolf said: Winter_Fox_Ryuko said: That makes no sense. If he'd gone to the 200th floor, someone could have killed him with nen. Him going to Heaven's Tower doesn't anything to do in the slightest as to why his family never taught him nen, which is the only major plot hole in Hunter x Hunter. they explain that nen must been awaken in a natural form not forced, to be more stronger, and they know that killua is not a mercenary killer like the rest of the zoldick, and remember that they give to him the training to be an electrical power user, that is not easy. They didn't train him to be an electrical nen user, it's made clear that all Zoldycks receive electrocution training, deciding to use lightning was his own personal choice. Guilek said: Poison, electricity could kill someone too. Silva told him to go to the 200th floor but he didn't fight there if he had done what his father told him, he'll have nen since the age of 6. Silva never ordered him to fight on the 200th floor, he said that Killua couldn't come home until he 'reached' the 200th floor. |
TyrelJul 23, 2014 9:45 PM
Winter_Fox_Ryuko said: Guilek said: Poison, electricity could kill someone too. Silva told him to go to the 200th floor but he didn't fight there if he had done what his father told him, he'll have nen since the age of 6. Silva never ordered him to fight on the 200th floor, he said that Killua couldn't come home until he 'reached' the 200th floor. If he goes to 200th floor however, he will feel the real gist of Nen. Which he did not. That will serve different action for him and probability of him learn Nen after it was high. He ignored that and only become interested after his deal with Illumi in Hunter Exam probably because he thought that "nen" feeling just another assassin technique before. If the needle was planted since he was a kid, then that really makes sense as he would never challenge the odd and force his way to 200th floor's fight and got Nen baptism, instead he will goes back home and ask about it is high and he will learn Nen(or just keep quiet). |
FlashofthebackJul 23, 2014 3:00 PM
| That ending was supa kawaii. |
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| LEORIO SPOTTED. My body can't contain my current hype. |
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| Illumi refers to Alluka as "otouto" which means younger brother. And Killua refers to him as "Imouto" which means younger sister! I'm confused! Is he a male or female?! |
| i wish they didn't translate nanika's name. it just doesn't read right. at least put it in parentheses. they did it with Ika Musume and it just doesn't work. |
DiabloMask said: Illumi refers to Alluka as "otouto" which means younger brother. And Killua refers to him as "Imouto" which means younger sister! I'm confused! Is he a male or female?! Silva & Kikyo don't have any biologically female daughters, let's leave it at that. |
| Hisoka and Illumi kill me as always omg this ship drive me nuts. And omfg Leorio si coming back next episode I was wondering when that was going to happen. |
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