KillerBee721 said: Making them illegal is bit much, better way is to raise taxes/price on them. I think in singapore alcohol's prices shot up after 11 pm to discourage people from drinking too much and if you want to smoke, you'd have to smoke in a designated area even if you're outside because they don't want you to be walking atound with it in a crowd that might bother them with the smell. If you were caught smoking outside of the designated area, you will be fined up tp 1k. Wow, thats really hard. |
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KillerBee721 said: AcceleratorAngel said: KillerBee721 said: Making them illegal is bit much, better way is to raise taxes/price on them. I think in singapore alcohol's prices shot up after 11 pm to discourage people from drinking too much and if you want to smoke, you'd have to smoke in a designated area even if you're outside because they don't want you to be walking atound with it in a crowd that might bother them with the smell. If you were caught smoking outside of the designated area, you will be fined up tp 1k. Wow, thats really hard. You think that's harsh wait until you know that it is illegal to chew gum in Singapore as well. Only prescribed gum for dental health is allowed. They banned it because people keep littering them by spitting onto the streets. If you are caught, you are fined up to 500 dollars. Are you kidding me? :O |
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AcceleratorAngel said: >implying it didn't exist for thousands of years already.Yeah thats true. If marijuana was discovered lets 600 years before then it would have been legal. The fact that the US government decided to randomly invent a new name for a age old drug in order to instil moral panic and create more crimes to persecute Cuban immigrants with, doesn't mean the drug itself was new. Cannabis is ancient stuff. |
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lupadim said: I think the government should make the local stores stop selling alcohol and cigarettes. Who really depends of those two for living would seek the mafia to find those drugs, but I believe that most people would simply stop drinking/smoking. So naive. Google for "prohibition usa". Prohibition does NOT work. |
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sedmelluq said: lupadim said: I think the government should make the local stores stop selling alcohol and cigarettes. Who really depends of those two for living would seek the mafia to find those drugs, but I believe that most people would simply stop drinking/smoking. So naive. Google for "prohibition usa". Prohibition does NOT work. Oh shut up fool! I'm building a still let me make some money |
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Marked-Ice said: Well, passive smoking hurts everyone so it doesn't really make sense to hear the smokers' point of view anyways. But banning it all over, and not just inside, is ridiculous.I know. There's this ignoramus at my campus who proposed a smoke-free campus -- and get this: even in the deserted parking lots. Seriously?! And where should the smokers do their breaks now - in the bathroom, for fear of getting caught? She only spoke to one group of people - people who are obviously going to agree with this proposal - instead of doing an actual survey to know the actual opinion of the student body. Smoking in all public areas is illegal here, but at least people can take a whiff outside. |
| If people want to take drugs then they are going to take drugs; may as well make it as safe for them as possible, make some money off it from tax, regulate it, and reduce the cash-flow for criminals. I'm thinking the government should legalize some of the more popular, safer drugs. I'm sure most people would rather take legal drugs over illegal drugs if they could. I was talking to a cop once and he was talking about a drug raid that they did, and told me about a video they found which showed the manufacturers putting their toenails, semen, boogers, and spit into the batch when they were making it. |
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Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
cabacc2 said: Yes it should.geezdad said: crystal meth shoudnt be legal.Cigarettes should be legal, alcohol should be legal, drugs should be legal. |
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cabacc2 said: There's a big difference between making crystal meth legal (thus decriminalising the drug) and thinking it's a swell idea if everyone starts using it.BryanBossling said: cabacc2 said: Yes it should.geezdad said: crystal meth shoudnt be legal.Cigarettes should be legal, alcohol should be legal, drugs should be legal. liberalism can be highly destructive to society if you take it too far. I think you just want to be provocative in this case. There is no logical reason to make crystal meth legal, at least not if you want the best for society. |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
cabacc2 said: Yes, I am totally trying to provoke by accepting popular opinion for once.liberalism can be highly destructive to society if you take it too far. I think you just want to be provocative in this case. There is no logical reason to make crystal meth legal, at least not if you want the best for society. I espouse liberty, and I believe in personal responsibility. I'm not naive enough to believe that the state always has our best interests in mind. Tobacco is also a terrible drug, but I wouldn't want it to be banned. I think it's stupid to make someone rich by destroying your own body, especially when it's about Mammon-worshiping company whose entire existence is (or should be) superfluous to society. But I think people should be able to if they want. People always appeal to ''the greater good'' when they try to impose ideology on other people, whether they're Fascists or Marxists, it's all the same shit. |
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99999 said: Blaze it, my nigga. I'll see you on the other side.Ive some actual experience here and I think it'd be great if meth were decriminalized omg fuck i gotta go time to get high :3 lolololl |
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BryanBossling said: cabacc2 said: Yes, I am totally trying to provoke by accepting popular opinion for once.liberalism can be highly destructive to society if you take it too far. I think you just want to be provocative in this case. There is no logical reason to make crystal meth legal, at least not if you want the best for society. I espouse liberty, and I believe in personal responsibility. I'm not naive enough to believe that the state always has our best interests in mind. Tobacco is also a terrible drug, but I wouldn't want it to be banned. I think it's stupid to make someone rich by destroying your own body, especially when it's about Mammon-worshiping company whose entire existence is (or should be) superfluous to society. But I think people should be able to if they want. People always appeal to ''the greater good'' when they try to impose ideology on other people, whether they're Fascists or Marxists, it's all the same shit. Most people are irresponsible asshats, who don't know what to think, are easy to back into a corner, and if not for men better than them would be slaves. At times these idiots DO need the hammer of a power larger than them swung into them for the greater good. The Opium epidemic of China till the CPC took over gave an idea of what happens with "liberity" so does Somalia. Humans are social creatures, and social creatures need a pecking order. |
BryanBossling said: cabacc2 said: Yes it should.geezdad said: crystal meth shoudnt be legal.Cigarettes should be legal, alcohol should be legal, drugs should be legal. Merka |
RedArmyShogun said: Somalia has problems on a genetic level that aren't present everywhere else, and so I think that is a poor example.Most people are irresponsible asshats, who don't know what to think, are easy to back into a corner, and if not for men better than them would be slaves. At times these idiots DO need the hammer of a power larger than them swung into them for the greater good. The Opium epidemic of China till the CPC took over gave a an idea of what happens with "liberity" so does Somalia. Humans are social creatures, and social creatures need a pecking order. Drugs can obviously ruin people's lives, and so I think it's important to offer help to those who are in need of it. I don't think throwing people in jail who were just looking for a good time is the right way to go, however. |
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BryanBossling said: RedArmyShogun said: Somalia has problems on a genetic level that aren't present everywhere else, and so I think that is a poor example.Most people are irresponsible asshats, who don't know what to think, are easy to back into a corner, and if not for men better than them would be slaves. At times these idiots DO need the hammer of a power larger than them swung into them for the greater good. The Opium epidemic of China till the CPC took over gave a an idea of what happens with "liberity" so does Somalia. Humans are social creatures, and social creatures need a pecking order. Drugs can obviously ruin people's lives, and so I think it's important to offer help to those who are in need of it. I don't think throwing people in jail who were just looking for a good time is the right way to go, however. Do as they did in China or as François-Marie Arouet, aka Voltaire, pick a few volunteers for any noteable problem. Shoot them publicly. The French and Russian Armies of note at various times had drunks turning up for duty, once the problem became wide spread, they would gather soldiers of various ranks and have them shot. For the next 50 years or so no one dared show up on duty drunk. Prussia and early Germany just militarized the whole population to prevent such problems. As to good times, hell my good time might be setting your house on fire. "It seemed like a good idea at the time" or "It was fun" tends to snowball into many a court case. The fact is populations are so huge and the grid so interconnected that personal privacy and release is no longer valid. If you pour a cup of hot water out of a window in a city apartment, chances are you've just burned someone on the head. Also that wasn't the part with Somalia, the point wiht it was most people shouldn't be trusted to know whats best for them on any level, nevermind others, the state however isn't the answer for that so much as philosphy and education. And lord know junked up people wouldn't help make that task any easier. |
BryanBossling said: No, it should not. There's only a hand few drugs should be legal.cabacc2 said: Yes it should.geezdad said: crystal meth shoudnt be legal.Cigarettes should be legal, alcohol should be legal, drugs should be legal. |
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RedArmyShogun said: Burning down your own house isn't comparable. If it doesn't involve harm to someone else or their property, then it shouldn't be treated as a crime . Public shaming or ostracization can be good tools in response to certain behaviour, especially in cases where the state shouldn't interfere. As to good times, hell my good time might be setting your house on fire. "It seemed like a good idea at the time" or "It was fun" tends to snowball into many a court case. The fact is populations are so huge and the grid so interconnected that personal privacy and release is no longer valid. If you pour a cup of hot water out of a window in a city apartment, chances are you've just burned someone on the head. RedArmyShogun said: Again, Somalians are not our equals, and so to compare our society to theirs is stupid.Also that wasn't the part with Somalia, the point wiht it was most people shouldn't be trusted to know whats best for them on any level, nevermind others, the state however isn't the answer for that so much as philosphy and education. And lord know junked up people wouldn't help make that task any easier. With that said, I don't believe humanity is ready to handle absolute freedom. Maybe in the future, after we've improved mankind through eugenics, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. |
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