| Wait a second, how do you guys even evaluate humanity's value? Oh, oh, I KNOW! By your own subjective point of view, damn. So yeah, one can lose faith in humanity and not be an "idiot" or anything, just like you can do the opposite and not be an "idiot" either, there are other factors that can tell if you're an "idiot" though. I, for one did not lose faith in humanity but I still know it's mostly made out of useless retards. |
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| They can be a great people, they wish to be. They only need to follow the light, it'll show them the way. |
Chili-Changa said: Why are groups of people who like things, video games, and tv shows something to lose faith in humanity over? Are such trivial things really something to care such much about? Kyonyo said: Lord_Pooka said: The point is? I just found it funny since you basically said that you are yourself reason why you have lost fait in humanity. You both need a rundown of how liking things leads to loss in humanity. My faith is now limited to the few humans I talk to frequently. But my faith in humanity as a whole is completely missing. |
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| I frequently hear people like "I drank so much I didn't know what I was doing lol" and worst thing is even my friends become like that, even the old ones, who seemed to have the main goal to be the most drunk as possible. Damn, my mother could be thankful sometimes. (joke) |
| i don't care much for humanity. it is the self that must not be betrayed |
| I have to say that there is no hope , just kidding XD . The bad examples are always mentioned ,but we don't see " oh what a great man/woman he/she is " because we look always at the worst and make them look like there is no one other than them. |
RO7Mar 9, 2014 12:11 PM
| I have faith that humanity is nothing but a small cold, a tiny, little virulent vector that managed to exist because the cosmos at large was capable of it. If you believe in greater purposes, higher acts, God, or any of that, you're delusional. Humanity is obviously not the only life in the galaxy, since every bacteria and strain of carbon atoms is alive. To end that tangent, I have a significant amout of faith in humanity. I have faith humanity will always fuck shit up, destroy itself with hatred and burn all of its available resources on stupid shit instead of willingly investing towards change of any good. I expect humanity to be gone in the next 20-50 years. Yes, I'm bleak. Such grimdark. |
| I have faith... ...that humanity will make this century bloodier and more depraved than the last. I feel you OP; the moral decay of humanity is accelerating at an alarming rate. |
| People bring nothing but pain to one another Hatred Envy Power Religious belief Money Thinking there better then any other person We hurt others because it makes us feel better about our short comings and bad luck in life and things we lost and don't have. Humans will always hate each other and will always put there self interests before anyone else's. Cause that's the way we are we bring nothing but pain to others. |
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Animefreak17a said: That is probably one of the most edgy posts I have seen on this site.People bring nothing but pain to one another Hatred Envy Power Religious belief Money Thinking there better then any other person We hurt others because it makes us feel better about our short comings and bad luck in life and things we lost and don't have. Humans will always hate each other and will always put there self interests before anyone else's. Cause that's the way we are we bring nothing but pain to others. |
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| Actually, it's not wrong that everyone thinks of their "well-being", but that depends on the person. Because we never do actions that we know will not "satisfy" ourselves. There is no such thing as being selfless, one would actually be "satisfied" by helping out an old woman, he's still thinking about himself first though. |
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Jackrabb1t said: I have faith... ...that humanity will make this century bloodier and more depraved than the last. I feel you OP; the moral decay of humanity is accelerating at an alarming rate. “What will they think of next?” “Probably more ways to kill people.” |
Immahnoob said: Actually, it's not wrong that everyone thinks of their "well-being", but that depends on the person. Because we never do actions that we know will not "satisfy" ourselves. There is no such thing as being selfless, one would actually be "satisfied" by helping out an old woman, he's still thinking about himself first though. What if it is just something you are so used to do that you just do it automatically and not even think about it at all? |
Immahnoob said: Actually, it's not wrong that everyone thinks of their "well-being", but that depends on the person. Because we never do actions that we know will not "satisfy" ourselves. There is no such thing as being selfless, one would actually be "satisfied" by helping out an old woman, he's still thinking about himself first though. Greed is one factor I hate about people when there we'll off for the rest of there lives they strive to wanting more and more and more even when they don't need it and having loads of money puts you on top.of the world while we at the bottom have to struggle and worry while the rich have nothing to worry about because with the right price you can have anything and no one will notice |
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Kyonyo said: Immahnoob said: Actually, it's not wrong that everyone thinks of their "well-being", but that depends on the person. Because we never do actions that we know will not "satisfy" ourselves. There is no such thing as being selfless, one would actually be "satisfied" by helping out an old woman, he's still thinking about himself first though. What if it is just something you are so used to do that you just do it automatically and not even think about it at all? It's still for the thought of satisfying yourself. Why do you do your hobby all the time? Because of certain chemicals that are released in your brain that give you happiness. Instead, for certain people (like sadists), it's the suffering of others that makes them "happy". After a certain while though, people get bored. You want to know why? Because those chemicals get released in a lesser quantity than before. |
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| If we look at our history we can see War Oppression Hatred Genocide And so many other things that humanity has done and it all goes in a cycle over and over, and we hate and fear anything that we can't conquer or understand and its the fear and fear that other humans put in us because of the older generations hatred for other people or something they saw on tv or something they read in the papers and in the future we we continue to do so til the extinction of man because we can't change. Cause we bring nothing but pain |
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Immahnoob said: It's still for the thought of satisfying yourself. Why do you do your hobby all the time? Because of certain chemicals that are released in your brain that give you happiness. Instead, for certain people (like sadists), it's the suffering of others that makes them "happy". After a certain while though, people get bored. You want to know why? Because those chemicals get released in a lesser quantity than before. I don't see that opening door example as satisfying yourself. I consider it as reflex what you have learned. I don't have any facts to prove that I'm right so if you can prove that I'm wrong I'll believe you. |
Chill_Mar 9, 2014 12:30 PM
Emnay said: If you lose faith in the entire human race because of a couple of idiots then I feel very bad for you. Agreed. I have encountered people and situations where i seem to realize these things too, however I have amazing friends, and i believe in them ^^ so i dont really feel troubled. And about women, it might be that you got culture shocked because of your ideals of women. Some men think that women are pure, innocent, softspoken, and weak that must be protected (i encountered people who really had these beliefs), but that's not reality. Women are humans too, like us men, they also have sexual desires and impulses ^^ |
"Though we strike at you from the shadows, do NOT think that we lack the courage to stand in the light." - Zeratul |
Chili-Changa said: What if you do something because you feel like you morally have to, but aren't happy with yourself afterwards? You didn't enjoy it, didn't wanna do it, but did it anyway? At the moment you felt that you were going to do something wrong which why you decide to rather do right thing what satisfied you at the moment. Basicaly you got satisfied by doing the right thing. Edit: like if you forgot did you lock door you don't (hopefully) go to recheck it because you enjoy doing it but you get satisfied from doing so. |
Chill_Mar 9, 2014 1:00 PM
Kibura_Iburasa said: I find myself questioning my faith in humanity most days, the more I hear people talk the less I want anything to do with them or their lifestyles especially students. First off the idea that I need to get a girlfriend, I find myself disliking the idea all together after hearing what exactly all the girls around my area and at the university actually talk like. I know women with sense are out there but it seems to be few and far between all the idiots. A cute girl gets on a bus, she seems nice until I hear her talking to a friend, my god. It was about fags (cigarettes) and guys and nights out. Its all people seem to be obsessed over, like the end of ends is a night out and a fuck. I feel like psycho mantis, where all he sees in peoples minds is the desire for sex. Thats what all women in the whole city ever seem to talk about, nights out and sex. But I really lost more faith in humanity a few nights ago when I was at a place grabbing some food for home. A group of uni lads came in all loud and stupid, tackling each other and rolling around the floor yelling for anyone walking by or in the place to "give them a blowjob" and the things there were saying was the most foul, I can't see people been able to function in a civilized society. One guy said he wanted to quote "fuck his sister and get her pregnant" and something about his grandmothers anus, it was disgusting. They would suddenly yell out things like "Cock" like they were animals or dogs barking. I just couldn't believe these people, they were more like animals than humans. I couldn't help but think here is a group of people that humanity would be better off without. So have you ever encountered people or a situation that made you lose a bit of faith in humans? sadly most people are stupid I lost my faith in humanity a long time ago |
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| That's when you are trying to provide for the future Chilli. Kyonyo said: I don't see that opening door example as satisfying yourself. I consider it as reflex what you have learned. I don't have any facts to prove that I'm right so if you can prove that I'm wrong I'll believe you. It can still work even if you give exaggerated examples, it's the means to satisfy yourself, if you won't open that door you won't be able to do whatever else you want. |
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Immahnoob said: That's when you are trying to provide for the future Chilli. Kyonyo said: I don't see that opening door example as satisfying yourself. I consider it as reflex what you have learned. I don't have any facts to prove that I'm right so if you can prove that I'm wrong I'll believe you. It can still work even if you give exaggerated examples, it's the means to satisfy yourself, if you won't open that door you won't be able to do whatever else you want. So are you saying that A) even reflex are something that satisfy you Or B) opening door can't be considered as reflex ? |
| Why can't you read what I said...? You open the door to be ABLE to do it, not necessarily satisfy yourself. |
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Immahnoob said: Why can't you read what I said...? You open the door to be ABLE to do it, not necessarily satisfy yourself. Well maybe door example was not best. But you did not get what I was trying to say so I give other example. Like when you are in army you need to obey commands and so on. After while you start to do certain things automatically. So there when someone yells certain thing you do something like lift your hand before you even think about it. So how is that satisfying yourself in any way if you can't even think about it before you have done it? Also consider it so that you are in home so you don't need to do that thing in order to get satisfied on anything but still when someone randomly says that "command" you rise that your hand. Also I read what you wrote and got your point. Basically my point is that bacause of reflex not everything is done in order to satisfy us. Because not every reflex is done in order to get some kind of satisfying. |
Chill_Mar 9, 2014 3:07 PM
Chili-Changa said: people only do that for there own benefit and there are some freedom fighters who others see as bad people e.g.Animefreak17a said: If we look at our history we can see War Oppression Hatred Genocide And so many other things that humanity has done and it all goes in a cycle over and over, and we hate and fear anything that we can't conquer or understand and its the fear and fear that other humans put in us because of the older generations hatred for other people or something they saw on tv or something they read in the papers and in the future we we continue to do so til the extinction of man because we can't change. Cause we bring nothing but pain If you look at history you also find people finding cures for various diseases, people trying to bring about freedom and equality for all, people saving other people's lives, etc. You know the people who killed that guy soldier in woolwich well some muslims believe that they killed him out of freedom And There was this woman who had a braintoumor and there wasn't anything in Britain that could help her but in America there was this machine that removed it completely at the cost of $200.000 and this tells me that as long as you have the money we can help you......this is a machine that can remove cancer and we don't have it in Britain and if you need that machine you have to go to America and pay a shit load of cash to use it. I bet you anything they have found the cure for cancer and is hiding this fact from the poor so the super rich and powerful will have the privilege of using these cures |
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| I don't like humanity very much yo. Misanthropy ftw. |
PoeticJustice said: I don't like humanity very much yo. Misanthropy ftw. Me neither 1+ |
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Chili-Changa said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my8Lq748cok Animefreak17a said: people only do that for there own benefit and there are some freedom fighters who others see as bad people e.g. You know the people who killed that guy soldier in woolwich well some muslims believe that they killed him out of freedom And There was this woman who had a braintoumor and there wasn't anything in Britain that could help her but in America there was this machine that removed it completely at the cost of $200.000 and this tells me that as long as you have the money we can help you......this is a machine that can remove cancer and we don't have it in Britain and if you need that machine you have to go to America and pay a shit load of cash to use it. I bet you anything they have found the cure for cancer and is hiding this fact from the poor so the super rich and powerful will have the privilege of using these cures If you're in immediate danger you can call 911 and they'll help you and they'll do it for free. Not everything humans do that is good costs money. That's only a front for business in the future everything will be owned by corporations and you'll have to pay a high price for you to get healthy and its happening now, you should never underestimate what humans are capable of when it comes to wanting more power and money. Power corrupts and its happening today in politics and corporations and if you think I'm paranoid then try and take a good look |
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Chili-Changa said: People are more likely to pay attention to it. People like to pay attention to the negative and ignore the positive. Please, don't allow yourself to be caught in that. Look at everything, not just the bad. Try to see the good in people. Isn't that fact alone a poor light shined on humans in general. That we are more amused and interested in the negative and fucked up than even paying attention to good things. If your point was for humans been good people that fact doesn't really gel with your ideas. |
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Kyonyo said: Immahnoob said: Why can't you read what I said...? You open the door to be ABLE to do it, not necessarily satisfy yourself. Well maybe door example was not best. But you did not get what I was trying to say so I give other example. Like when you are in army you need to obey commands and so on. After while you start to do certain things automatically. So there when someone yells certain thing you do something like lift your hand before you even think about it. So how is that satisfying yourself in any way if you can't even think about it before you have done it? Also consider it so that you are in home so you don't need to do that thing in order to get satisfied on anything but still when someone randomly says that "command" you rise that your hand. Also I read what you wrote and got your point. Basically my point is that bacause of reflex not everything is done in order to satisfy us. Because not every reflex is done in order to get some kind of satisfying. Survival isn't necessarily satisfying, survival and satisfaction are two different domains. |
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Chili-Changa said: Animefreak17a said: That's only a front for business in the future everything will be owned by corporations and you'll have to pay a high price for you to get healthy and its happening now, you should never underestimate what humans are capable of when it comes to wanting more power and money. Power corrupts and its happening today in politics and corporations and if you think I'm paranoid then try and take a good look Just as well, you should never allow yourself to look at only the negative side of people, situations, etc. Look at the news. Think of all the horrible things that happen that they report. Why is it that they mostly report only bad news? I think its because bad news is more interesting to people. People are more likely to pay attention to it. People like to pay attention to the negative and ignore the positive. Please, don't allow yourself to be caught in that. Look at everything, not just the bad. Try to see the good in people. Who would do things out of the kindness of there hearts I've learned that the hard way...... you help people and give them stuff and they use you and use you and use you and abandon you when there finished with you people are pricks to everyone and will put you down .............when the person you thought was your best friend turns out to be using you because you have something they don't it's a painful thing............. Let me ask you this, if your rich and famous do you think people will like you for who you are and not your money and fame and looks...............................exactly look at the homeless people most people wished they was dead because of the sight of them also would you go out with a homeless person that has nothing or go out with a rich person who has money and power.....................It's power and money people want and if your at the bottom no one would care ............ look at the royals who had that baby it was all over the news the royals New baby is here and it was on the news for a week and because it's royalty. |
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Kibura_Iburasa said: They would suddenly yell out things like "Cock" like they were animals or dogs barking. Well, humans are animals, so it shouldn't really be surprising that there are many humans who are only capable of hormone driven behavior. Just like how there are some animals of other species who are capable of displaying human-like qualities. I believe that it's based more on the level of sentience that an organism has developed to, not what species it is. Ever heard of the mirror test? It's where they put some paint on the tip of a toddler's nose and have them look in a mirror. It is only when they reach a certain age that their brain has developed enough for them to realize that what they are looking at is a reflection of themselves, and they wipe the paint off their nose after seeing it in their reflection. The test is designed to see if they are self aware, and humans aren't the only ones who can pass it. However, just simply being self aware is only one stage of sentience. There's another test called the theory of mind. A test they use for that is telling a toddler a story about a cookie and some containers. One person has a cookie, and they put it in a jar. They leave the room, and the other person moves the cookie into a box. The first person comes back. They ask the child where the first person will look for their cookie. Before a certain age, they will say in the box, because they haven't developed far enough yet to realize that the person who left has a separate mind from person who moved the cookie. There's tons of different levels of sentience, and I think that the reason why many people act the way they do is just because their minds aren't as developed. So don't hate them, pity them. |
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