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Nov 14, 2013 9:03 AM
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Ash got his first gym badge. Seven more to go!
Nov 14, 2013 9:10 AM
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Pikachu and Yayakoma know what's up. They left Ash and Serena alone when she asked if he remembered her.
Nov 14, 2013 9:42 AM
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so ash remember the camp but not remember that serena been there that mean there is a chance he will remember later on but by next episode preview we will have more blushing serena and flashbacks
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Pikachu and Yayakoma know what's up. They left Ash and Serena alone when she asked if he remembered her.

thought the same
Nov 14, 2013 12:47 PM
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Great way to remove the ice from the field using Electro Ball to cause an explosion and crack the ice. As for Ash forgetting Serena well he's been with so many people and that he probably just forgot. Although remembering the camp but not Serena seems like why Ash, still I think if Serena sticks with Ash to motivate him he'll remember eventually. Plus Serena and Ash seem to get along just fine.

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Battles are so much better now in XY, they are better animated and there is more depth instead of the usual shout *insert attackname* and 'dodge!'. Ash's response towards Serena was so typically Ash IMO, being the oblivious friend-zoner he is :P Serena seems like she will get a lot more character development, hopefully we'll see more episodes like these. Looking forward to more episodes!
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Oh, so they revealed it eh? Ash would take time to remember.

Anyways, yes, the battles have been really animated good.
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This series has been nothing short of fantastic so far. Its comparison to Black and White is night and day. From the fluid animations, to the soundtrack, to the people he is traveling with, to even Ash himself, who has become much more badass (and exploiting TYPE ADVANTAGES *gasp*), this series is truly a shape of things to come. Really love the new Serena subplot, and how ash gets so excited every time Citron reveals a new invention. They are hitting so many of the right notes with this new series, it is really bringing back the feeling I got when I watched the original series. Also, Gym battles won with tactics and not overpowering strength. Been a long time since we've seen that in this series.
Nov 14, 2013 6:01 PM
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Animated quite well, definitely enjoying this more than BW series.
Serena to join the afro gang!

Looking forward to moar episodes! :p
Nov 14, 2013 7:10 PM

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Quite a fun episode.

Next episode seems interesting!
Nov 14, 2013 7:53 PM
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Better animated episodes. Gym battles won with tactics. Would love to see tactics and a combination of strength, that should add to the depth of the show (Ash somewhat displayed this as his Pikachu’s Thunderbolt overpowered Surskit’s Signal Beam) And I am not surprised that Ash forgot Serena, being the typical 10-year-old guy who doesn’t know a thing about love lol. Probably Ash can’t remember Serena as like many have said, he has met so many people on his journeys, he probably forgot who he played with when he was very young (excluding Gary). Fletching and Pikachu are very automatic too, knowing when to get out of the way lol. On the whole to conclude, this episode has been good, as with all the other episodes. Ash in Pokémon XY is becoming smarter and more observant, unlike the other previous Pokémon series where Ash just fought and won with little strategy (save for DP), and am very glad that the makers of Pokémon did not reset Ash, but in fact made him even better. Hope to see Ash at least coming close to winning, if not winning the Kalos League this time round.
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Wow, there actually MIGHT be some romantic development in Ash's life. Serena could be a very interesting character. Overall it was a fun episode to watch.
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A great episode..The battle was great...I liked how pikachu snapped off from the sleep powder using electro ball.....But viola should have done better.....She knew ash was training on countering ice field and gust.....She shouldn't have used the same trick on ash twice.....that's why she fell for it.....I think she should have used different pokemon...or different strategy against ash to surprise him.....But the battle was good....


That ash...really his determination and courage is really attractive ....this attracts even a girl like serena...I got excited when serena become the key to his victory by making him remember 'never give up till the end' even pansy told serena that she might be the reason why ash got fired up and got the confidence....I really liked ash and serena moments in this episode..surely ash wouldn't remember her.....But the way things going..I fear serena will never tell ash that she met him..back in summer camp...though i am not sure myself...
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Serena is sooo cute!!!! PINCH MEEEEE!!!

Anyways, this was another amazing episode of pokemon, The difference between XY and Best Wishes is huge, i cannot stress this enough, the music is more or so the same, but used better, the animation has improved leaps and bounds, and there is love!

Seriously, what more could you ask for

Cough.. may to return.. cough love triangle
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How to win every pokemon battle ever in the anime:
Use psychic. All the time.
Hits everytime, pokemon can't do anything. :p
Nov 15, 2013 1:08 AM

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I wondered in this episode - if they're doing an equivalent of Super Training with Ash's Pokemon, that would mean they have the potential to boost their base stats. Pikachu shouldn't be able to do that by this point 8)

Also, I dunno if I said this prior to today, but the ED reminds me of the WataMote anime's ED.
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Ash's laugh... He needs to do that a lot more.
Nov 17, 2013 2:39 AM

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If he's already this good, I hope he'll get into at least top 2 at the Kalos League, if not win it. Serena should be enough motivation for that :p
And yes, next week looks like Serena episode!
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If he's already this good, I hope he'll get into at least top 2 at the Kalos League, if not win it. Serena should be enough motivation for that :p
And yes, next week looks like Serena episode!

AHHH I haven't seen the series in years and Now i finf out a girl has a real crush on Satoshi/Ash. Misty partially counted cause they did get embaressed sometimes when that was implied. But Seriously will we get a trainer or a coordinator? I am leaning towards coordinator; but I could be wrong.
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AHHH I haven't seen the series in years and Now i finf out a girl has a real crush on Satoshi/Ash. Misty partially counted cause they did get embaressed sometimes when that was implied. But Seriously will we get a trainer or a coordinator? I am leaning towards coordinator; but I could be wrong.

I don't think she would become a coordinator, there are no contests in the XY games as far as I know. I really liked contests, but if I want to be honest I'd rather see them come up with something new.
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Aclos said:
Setsuna200 said:
AHHH I haven't seen the series in years and Now i finf out a girl has a real crush on Satoshi/Ash. Misty partially counted cause they did get embaressed sometimes when that was implied. But Seriously will we get a trainer or a coordinator? I am leaning towards coordinator; but I could be wrong.

I don't think she would become a coordinator, there are no contests in the XY games as far as I know. I really liked contests, but if I want to be honest I'd rather see them come up with something new.
i think serena goal will be to become the best rayhorn racer like her mother
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i think serena goal will be to become the best rayhorn racer like her mother

Yes, I thought about that too, and while it makes sense (especially considering the next episode), I'm not too fond of the idea. My problem with it is that it doesn't involve any kind of battling and the only Pokémon it requires is a Rhyhorn. So basically Fennekin (and all her other future Pokémon) would be there only to watch and would be pretty much useless. I'd like to see her starter evolve to its final form like May's Torchic did.
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elior1 said:
i think serena goal will be to become the best rayhorn racer like her mother

Yes, I thought about that too, and while it makes sense (especially considering the next episode), I'm not too fond of the idea. My problem with it is that it doesn't involve any kind of battling and the only Pokémon it requires is a Rhyhorn. So basically Fennekin (and all her other future Pokémon) would be there only to watch and would be pretty much useless. I'd like to see her starter evolve to its final form like May's Torchic did.
maybe this race is the only one that they need to use rayhorn and there will be other races later where they will can use different pokemons.it possible there can be different racers where they can not only use rayhorn
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elior1 said:
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i think serena goal will be to become the best rayhorn racer like her mother

Yes, I thought about that too, and while it makes sense (especially considering the next episode), I'm not too fond of the idea. My problem with it is that it doesn't involve any kind of battling and the only Pokémon it requires is a Rhyhorn. So basically Fennekin (and all her other future Pokémon) would be there only to watch and would be pretty much useless. I'd like to see her starter evolve to its final form like May's Torchic did.
maybe this race is the only one that they need to use rayhorn and there will be other races later where they will can use different pokemons.it possible there can be different racers where they can not only use rayhorn


Why can't we have a girl that battles gym leaders too? Argh! This is why I liked Misty, she was actually interested in battling. But even then she didn't enter the Pokemon league.
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elior1 said:
maybe this race is the only one that they need to use rayhorn and there will be other races later where they will can use different pokemons.it possible there can be different racers where they can not only use rayhorn

Yes, that's possible, but the problem is still there that it doesn't involve battling, and is only for certain Pokémon. At least I can't imagine Serena riding a Delphox or something.
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Why can't we have a girl that battles gym leaders too? Argh! This is why I liked Misty, she was actually interested in battling. But even then she didn't enter the Pokemon league.

I'd like that too, but it would be hard to keep it interesting if they both battle the same gym leaders. Maybe if there will be an arc like the Kanto Battle Frontier was in AG, then Serena could aim for the Pokémon league in that region, while Ash is doing something else.
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Aclos said:
elior1 said:
maybe this race is the only one that they need to use rayhorn and there will be other races later where they will can use different pokemons.it possible there can be different racers where they can not only use rayhorn

Yes, that's possible, but the problem is still there that it doesn't involve battling, and is only for certain Pokémon. At least I can't imagine Serena riding a Delphox or something.
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Why can't we have a girl that battles gym leaders too? Argh! This is why I liked Misty, she was actually interested in battling. But even then she didn't enter the Pokemon league.

I'd like that too, but it would be hard to keep it interesting if they both battle the same gym leaders. Maybe if there will be an arc like the Kanto Battle Frontier was in AG, then Serena could aim for the Pokémon league in that region, while Ash is doing something else.
by the next episodes trailer we got few episodes ago it seems chitorn willl fight against one of the gym leaders.talking about him i wonder since they will get to chitorn gym in episode 9 meybe ash will fight against him on the badge in episode 10
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Isn't that something like
Nov 18, 2013 2:22 AM
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Isn't that something like
it just my guess but meybe in episode 10 which it title isnt released yet will be ash vs chitorn on the badge after he will take back the gym
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But he is the 5th gym leader, I don't think they'd go out of order, unless something like BW2 being released were to happen again. And Ash already decided in this episode to go to the rock type gym next.
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elior1 said:
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i think serena goal will be to become the best rayhorn racer like her mother

Yes, I thought about that too, and while it makes sense (especially considering the next episode), I'm not too fond of the idea. My problem with it is that it doesn't involve any kind of battling and the only Pokémon it requires is a Rhyhorn. So basically Fennekin (and all her other future Pokémon) would be there only to watch and would be pretty much useless. I'd like to see her starter evolve to its final form like May's Torchic did.
maybe this race is the only one that they need to use rayhorn and there will be other races later where they will can use different pokemons.it possible there can be different racers where they can not only use rayhorn
I don't think Serena is racing in this. In the preview, Ash is the one racing while Serena is in the sideline. She might be a mentor or teacher to teach Ash how to ride it. Sky battles might work.
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Sky battles have the same problem: only Flying types and Pokémon with Levitate.
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Aclos said:
Setsuna200 said:
AHHH I haven't seen the series in years and Now i finf out a girl has a real crush on Satoshi/Ash. Misty partially counted cause they did get embaressed sometimes when that was implied. But Seriously will we get a trainer or a coordinator? I am leaning towards coordinator; but I could be wrong.

I don't think she would become a coordinator, there are no contests in the XY games as far as I know. I really liked contests, but if I want to be honest I'd rather see them come up with something new.



Never thought girls will like Satoshi/Ash. Serena seems to be the first. Maybe a top Rhyhorn racer like her mother? But as far as I am concerned, if Ash wins the Kalos League, won't it mean the end of the series? Actually ah I think the most they will let him is win top 2 place, then some random rival will pop up at the last minute like Kotetsu/Cameron in BW to own Ash. Well hope to see Ash and Serena's romance develop further, but guess there's a limit since this is a kid's show after all and they don't want to spread the wrong message to the kids...
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Aclos said:
Setsuna200 said:
AHHH I haven't seen the series in years and Now i finf out a girl has a real crush on Satoshi/Ash. Misty partially counted cause they did get embaressed sometimes when that was implied. But Seriously will we get a trainer or a coordinator? I am leaning towards coordinator; but I could be wrong.

I don't think she would become a coordinator, there are no contests in the XY games as far as I know. I really liked contests, but if I want to be honest I'd rather see them come up with something new.

Probably a dance competition.
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Setsuna200 said:
Aclos said:
Setsuna200 said:
AHHH I haven't seen the series in years and Now i finf out a girl has a real crush on Satoshi/Ash. Misty partially counted cause they did get embaressed sometimes when that was implied. But Seriously will we get a trainer or a coordinator? I am leaning towards coordinator; but I could be wrong.

I don't think she would become a coordinator, there are no contests in the XY games as far as I know. I really liked contests, but if I want to be honest I'd rather see them come up with something new.

Probably a dance competition.


I think it is an ride competition with rhyhorn.
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Sorry for the late reply, my internet died yesterday morning just as I was about to post this...

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Never thought girls will like Satoshi/Ash. Serena seems to be the first. Maybe a top Rhyhorn racer like her mother? But as far as I am concerned, if Ash wins the Kalos League, won't it mean the end of the series? Actually ah I think the most they will let him is win top 2 place, then some random rival will pop up at the last minute like Kotetsu/Cameron in BW to own Ash. Well hope to see Ash and Serena's romance develop further, but guess there's a limit since this is a kid's show after all and they don't want to spread the wrong message to the kids...

Winning a league wouldn't neccessarily mean the end of the anime in my opinion (He won the Battle Frontier which is a much bigger challenge than a Pokémon League). They said that as long as there's Pokémon anime there would be Ash, but winning a league doesn't mean he instantly becomes a "Pokémon Master". They were constantly talking about the Champion's League in DP, so there would be plenty of things to do for him after winning a league, like facing the Elite 4 and the Champion. Meawhile he could fill a mentor role for the new MC who takes on the gen 7 gyms and league.
I'd like to see something like this, but it's probably just wishful thinking. I'll be satisfied with at least top 4, and not losing to a complete idiot like Kotetesu/Cameron.

Oh, and by the way, one of the Frontier Brains (Salon Maiden Anabel, I think that was her name) liked Ash, but ofc he was too dense to notice...
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Without a doubt , it was a brilliant episode .

Ash 's rematch against Viola was amazing , by the training he did with his pokemon and took advantage of the disadvantages he had, to use it for and benefit in combat, which I appreciated quite how it think of Ash episode. Pity about the defeat of Fletchling , I wish it will be 2-0 but in the previous episode, it was known that Viola pokemon would a great battle. Another thing that surprised me in the fight , it was like Pikachu Electrobola used to recover the same , I had not seen this strategy before, so it took me by surprise.

The episode was funny in Clermont and his new invention , the guy looked like a fucking Nazi shooting at the pokemon , but in training, it was noticed that Pikachu and Fletchling would make a good team if the anime had XY double battles , which I hope yes. Another thing about the characters is that Ash did not remember Serena , typical of Pokemon , but in the end , Serena gave Ash willpower to overcome the battle .

Good episode, the simple truth .
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Pikachu and Yayakoma know what's up. They left Ash and Serena alone when she asked if he remembered her.


When I saw this I screamed out...., Ash's pokemon are such bros. As soon as she got all dere, they ran out to give them alone time, WTF am I watching lol....

I have completely fallen back in love with this series. I loved this as a little boy and I'm loving it as a man. And could it be, romantic development in my pokemonz lol.

I can't wait to see where this ride goes :D
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Guess I am the only one who is disappointed with this gym match, this and the previous one, these are unfortunately still better than BW. While it certainly had some tactics in it, albeit a simple one, in the end Ash's Pikachu still won by luck and overpowering his opponent's attack with it's own, and there is no proof that Ash's Pikachu didn't reset after BW. Ash still couldn't quite make the best out of his pokemon's pros. It's not like Ash is a bad trainer, he did make good use of Froakie before. So yea..

And here is another thing I am alone with, I guess I am the only one who really want a rival for Ash. I did some searching and it seems like there won't be a rival for Ash (Gary/Paul/Trip) for the Kalos region. That's pretty disappointing.
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So Ash won his first badge! YAY! That was a really good battle!

Awww, Ash didn't remember Serena.

Glad I decided to try this series after not watching in years!!
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What a battle.. this is one of the best first gym battle i've ever seen if not outright the best ones.. Like some other said above, they use mainly tactic instead of straight raw power in this battle.. Viola's vivillon also one of tough bug having a great moveset with addition of sleep powder.. well in the end ash ofc have to win to earn his first badge..

As for serena.. well i like where this will going.. ofc ash won't remember (typical ash :/) but at least he still remember the camp so maybe there's still a chance that he'll remember serena in the near future.. Overall a great episode, the best ones so far.. I guess the following episode will still revolve around Serena and ofc i'm looking forward to see it..

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I had to laugh when Pikachu and Yayakoma went away when Serena started talking to Satoshi.

Of course Satoshi wouldn't remember Serena. It would be too easy.

Pikachu got its revenge and had to hold things down.

So after the battle, Serena was Satoshi and co.'s side like she was already part of the group then when it was time to leave she started walking with them. I'm thinking to myself saying "When did Satoshi agree to let Serena travel with them? WTF? This is weird. Are they not going to show the scene?" Then Satoshi brings up the question to Serena. lol
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At least Fletchling lost and Pikachu wins, otherwise Pikachu is seriously nerfed weak.

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All these discussions were about Sathoshi and serena secene, right. I felt it weird that the focus is more upon serena's voice echoing and which made ash remember his training and getting encouraged by her words. In my opinion Misty of original Pokemon is the best. I liked brock ( i don't know his japanese name) character too. Since it is child show i don't think there will be any such relationship will be cultivated among these two.
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pukachu and fletchling were left ash and serena talk alone lol
so love how they insert this kind of romance in pokemon, though it's almost impossible to developing it a lot in kids show...

ash won straight with destroying tactic, very much like his DP attitude, though that end of the battle was a bit of luck, but i guess luck has a lot to do with winning battles in the pokemon anime.
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How to win with Vivillon
Always use sleep powder and Quilver dance / Hurricane GGs

Serena : Do you remember me?
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How to win every pokemon battle ever in the anime:
Use psychic. All the time.
Hits everytime, pokemon can't do anything. :p


unless they're dark type!
psychic can't touch dark types ☪️ :Vv
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Loved the gym battle.
It's awesome seeing Ash use some interesting techniques again like using Iron Tail to stay stable.
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serena is slightly cringe, especially this episode.
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