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| That was HORRIBLE. Plain bad is not enough to describe this :/ EVERYONE behaving like the most illogical and stupidest fuck ever created, I mean wtf? Random infanticide sidestory than ends with a hug, so many awkward and out of place dialogues (You are no doll! why are you so strong? I just wanna see my daughter smile so I die because she only wants to have at least one family member left! Fuck common sense!). Not to mention weird scenes like when she was saving the girl. One moment you see her holding onto the mother's hand and the girl is in her mothers arms. Then she let's go and suddenly the girl is in her arms although she used her second arm to hold on to the building. Dat magic. So much disappointment and it's the kind of disappointment that doesn't relate to one specific thing but the whole way the show is presented, which is just thoughtless and lame. So I'm not having high hopes for this to recover unfortunately. /rant |
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ashlelouch said: drikkevdv said: It was ok. A lot better than the first episode that's for sure. They should just ditch the other 2 girls honestly :l. They don't even do anything. Only complaint in this ep is the dad logic. "I want my daughter to smile, so leave me here to die even though there might even be a chance that I'd live. That will make my daughter smile for sure." Exactly what I thought. I liked the episode but some scenes were kinda hit and miss. Like when Ibara started crying when the lady was holding Miku hostage. It would have been really nice if while she had been crying she said, "I don't understand humans/human emotions." or something. Anyone else agree? And it kinda seems like they're trying to force the whole doll thing. But I did like the episode. that part was probably the weirdest scene for me. I seriously thought she was just throwing that facade in there to make the lady give up Miku. I am still confused if she really meant it or not but I guess if she did, it's interesting to know that she's also conflicted with that whole idea. The whole dad staying behind thing, It seemed like he was already dying from the lack of oxygen. I took it as he just didn't want to die in the plane and Miku coming out like, "HEY DAD...WAIT NO DAD, DON'T LEAVE" (cue sad piano music.) Despite all those scenes, I really liked this episode. Had a lot of great topics and i liked the little bit of the Coppelia ballet. Don't know why everyone expects these girl to act like emotionless robots though. The OP was great and now I'm really interested in what the other students might bring into this. I also like how the dog became a new team member. |
| Those thick outlines really remind me of Akagi...just less rigid. Upon closer inspection (because I usually skip them), from the looks of the OP, it seems like there's going to be some more action later on. |
| It's awesome to see what this team can do with good source material. K was gorgeous to watch, but the story had a ton of problems, so this is more like it. It's also great to hear Haruka and Kana in such a serious show. |
| Ugh... that was just bad. The whole way the parents behaved in this episode didn't make any sense. Ibara suddenly became a crybaby. The building coincidentally collapsed when they were in there for no reason. How did Ibara hold the kid from falling anyways? The camera didn't show it. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: *slow clap* melodrama ruined this episode and I don't see this heading anywhere interesting.That was HORRIBLE. Plain bad is not enough to describe this :/ EVERYONE behaving like the most illogical and stupidest fuck ever created, I mean wtf? Random infanticide sidestory than ends with a hug, so many awkward and out of place dialogues (You are no doll! why are you so strong? I just wanna see my daughter smile so I die because she only wants to have at least one family member left! Fuck common sense!). Not to mention weird scenes like when she was saving the girl. One moment you see her holding onto the mother's hand and the girl is in her mothers arms. Then she let's go and suddenly the girl is in her arms although she used her second arm to hold on to the building. Dat magic. So much disappointment and it's the kind of disappointment that doesn't relate to one specific thing but the whole way the show is presented, which is just thoughtless and lame. So I'm not having high hopes for this to recover unfortunately. /rant |
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| It's pretty interesting that people still live there. I wonder if they're all criminals, why else would you stay in a place like that? The whole thing with Miku and her parents felt a bit off, but I liked this episode better than the first. |
| wow gay |
| Kana Hanazawa's character is so fucking annoying here!! |
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slayerizedcarol said: ashlelouch said: drikkevdv said: It was ok. A lot better than the first episode that's for sure. They should just ditch the other 2 girls honestly :l. They don't even do anything. Only complaint in this ep is the dad logic. "I want my daughter to smile, so leave me here to die even though there might even be a chance that I'd live. That will make my daughter smile for sure." Exactly what I thought. I liked the episode but some scenes were kinda hit and miss. Like when Ibara started crying when the lady was holding Miku hostage. It would have been really nice if while she had been crying she said, "I don't understand humans/human emotions." or something. Anyone else agree? And it kinda seems like they're trying to force the whole doll thing. But I did like the episode. that part was probably the weirdest scene for me. I seriously thought she was just throwing that facade in there to make the lady give up Miku. I am still confused if she really meant it or not but I guess if she did, it's interesting to know that she's also conflicted with that whole idea. The whole dad staying behind thing, It seemed like he was already dying from the lack of oxygen. I took it as he just didn't want to die in the plane and Miku coming out like, "HEY DAD...WAIT NO DAD, DON'T LEAVE" (cue sad piano music.) I thought that too, that she was putting up a facade so that she could trick the woman into giving up the kid. But no, she was actually for real with all that melodrama. Also the logic of these girls makes no sense. The woman disappears and the first thing they think is that the woman is holding the girl hostage? Why? The first thing I would have assumed was that she joined her husband to try to find her step-daughter. Just because the child isn't yours, doesn't mean you don't care for her! And when the see the father was gone, the first thing they think is that he's in on it too, and that perhaps this was all a trick. Did you forget that you told him to go back to his wife not 5 minutes ago?! And if your child was missing, would you really just sit still waiting for the teen girls you just met to report back to you? Uh no. |
| Just because the girls are genetically engineered to sustain hazard, doesn't mean they are "professionals" - they are sent there because of what they are. They won't know what they are till they find out or (at least) go against what they think they are. Seems to me promising and this is the reason I liked this episode better than the first. It adds to character development; I guess, this interests me the most. I didn't get the usual melodramatic vibe either. The family was in survival disarray, again (after the truck with the weekly food supply didn't appear), so it's expected to behave inconsistent, confused, and desperate. Well, I got that. The father said something outstandingly illogical, but did the right thing - went looking for his daughter in spite of the danger and chose to die close to Miku's mom. In time, Miku might forgive him - with all things considered, he didn't leave her mom, too, and Miku would know where the two of them rest. |
zellami said: its not just about the parents behind illogical in their behavior.. the 3 main characters behaved the complete opposite from last week and in the dumbest way possible.. all that crying for nothing was unnecessary.Just because the girls are genetically engineered to sustain hazard, doesn't mean they are "professionals" - they are sent there because of what they are. They won't know what they are till they find out or (at least) go against what they think they are. Seems to me promising and this is the reason I liked this episode better than the first. It adds to character development; I guess, this interests me the most. I didn't get the usual melodramatic vibe either. The family was in survival disarray, again (after the truck with the weekly food supply didn't appear), so it's expected to behave inconsistent, confused, and desperate. Well, I got that. The father said something outstandingly illogical, but did the right thing - went looking for his daughter in spite of the danger and chose to die close to Miku's mom. In time, Miku might forgive him - with all things considered, he didn't leave her mom, too, and Miku would know where the two of them rest. |
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| things got sad really fast...not sure how i feel about that. that poor child tho. then again alot of things escalated quickly |
| Seems like they were also genetically engineered to CRY MOAR. I'm seriously just facepalming at the times you're supposed to feel sad. This aint for me. |
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| That ED is damn amazing. |
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| This was a pretty decent episode, a step-up from the first episode where practically nothing much happened. I still see a lot of potential in the premise - mini stories like these are okay, but if its going to be mini stories all the way, it will never be better than average, unless each of them can be beautifully done. The mini story in episode 2 could have been done a lot better if it didn't feel forced - Ibara crying like that? What!? Looks like the main theme is about dolls and artificial humans. |
| For being the only 3 humans capable of surviving direct exposure to the open environment making them rather valuable assets, i figured the 3 girls would have had various training and such especially since (im assuming) they were made for some big plans. Sure they're inexperienced but it still seems like they're pretty clueless and incapable - on par with drones that you'd send out for image feedback. Despite this, the premise is interesting enough for me to keep watching and im really hoping there will be some development where the girls kick into action (physically or intellectually) |
| The execution was terrible. If I remember correctly, that whole saving the little girl bit took like 4+ chapters in the manga meaning lots of material crammed in just 20 minutes. A lot of you guys mentioned that scene between Ibara and Yukiko didn't make sense. Well you see, they cut SIGNIFICANT dialogue between those two that's why the dialogue in the anime just sounds like forced drama. It wasn't supposed to be like that >__< Well this series is only 13-episodes long so I get that they're trying to get to the good stuff quickly.But damn it, they're ruining an awesome manga. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| First episode was really good, this episode sucked. Ugh. The ED is really good except for all the...talking? Does that count as rapping? Either way, it totally ruins the song for me. What a waste. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: That was HORRIBLE. Plain bad is not enough to describe this :/ EVERYONE behaving like the most illogical and stupidest fuck ever created, I mean wtf? Random infanticide sidestory than ends with a hug, so many awkward and out of place dialogues (You are no doll! why are you so strong? I just wanna see my daughter smile so I die because she only wants to have at least one family member left! Fuck common sense!). Not to mention weird scenes like when she was saving the girl. One moment you see her holding onto the mother's hand and the girl is in her mothers arms. Then she let's go and suddenly the girl is in her arms although she used her second arm to hold on to the building. Dat magic. So much disappointment and it's the kind of disappointment that doesn't relate to one specific thing but the whole way the show is presented, which is just thoughtless and lame. So I'm not having high hopes for this to recover unfortunately. /rant This is more or less how it felt to me, except for the disappointment because I wasn't really expecting much. On another note, I feel like I've seen an OP/ED that starts really similar to the ED of this for some reason. |
zellami said: Just because the girls are genetically engineered to sustain hazard, doesn't mean they are "professionals" - they are sent there because of what they are. They kinda should be. They are specifically engineered for the job, they've been going to the special school so they could do they job. So yeah they should be professionals. |
Redfoxoffire said: The ED is really good except for all the...talking? Does that count as rapping? Either way, it totally ruins the song for me. What a waste. I liked the ED too until the "rapping" part came and I was like wtf is this. It definitely would've been better without it. |
| You had ONE JOB Aoi! When Ibara said "this is a job only you can do" to Aoi, I felt like she meant "this is the only job you can do"...b/c you will annoy the heck out of me otherwise and probably get in my way. |
| This an okay episode, it was somewhat emotional but some doesn't fit well like the parents logical words were kind of unnecessary, like in the end where the dad decide to stay behind instead to see his daughter. Well that is the issue for that but the characters like Aoi and Taeko are still a minor issue, so I hope they will do something in the future for helping Ibara. Well the only thing I like is the animation and art are still top notch and ost was pretty good. Both the ED and OP was great imo. Hoping that next episode will be better. |
| Aoi is too happy :| |
| Honestly it was an ok-ish episode and it feels a bit rushed and kinda cliche. One thing that made me laugh was the dad's logic. It was so stupid, why would he give up his life just like that? I thought he would do anything for his daughter. It's a sad episode for Miku but nothing more. I'll be expecting a better episode next week or I might drop this. |
| I enjoy watching this anime. It's something different but good ^^ |
raionsama said: One thing that made me laugh was the dad's logic. It was so stupid, why would he give up his life just like that? I thought he would do anything for his daughter. Gaahhh all the cut content is just making me mad >___< |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| Bleghh I liked Episode 1 a lot, but the tears this Episode killed it for me. |
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| Hmm~ I guess this episode was just okay. I hope the other two main characters get more useful throughout the series. |
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| This episode was okay, all the feels and whatnot. The soundtrack is great and the characters are decent. How many episodes is this again? 12? |
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| I think it was pretty strong episode overall, Was more of a feels trip which I didn't really feel for but that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it. It'll be interesting to see how this story carry's out of the season. I don't believe this really is an anime that you can judge by a couple of episodes. (though I don't believe any anime should be reviewed off the first few episode) |
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| Quite a sad episode. A lot of tears. |
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| It's interesting only because of the dna stuff, so I'll keep watching. |
| No. This is too cheesy. No, Coppelion. Don't try to be moe now. No. |
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| I don't know why you guys are all throwing a hissy-fit. I thought the episode was pretty damn good and a step up from the first episode. I'd say the only "problem" the episode had was it didn't do a very good job of establishing the "status, purpose and rationale" of the Dolls. For example... In the discussion between Aoi and the aunt, they talked about being in high school. Okay, so is it like a high school for Dolls? Dolls mixed in with regular students? Why would you send the Dolls into the contaminated area completely unprepared from an equipment standpoint and why wouldn't you dress them with more useful attire than school uniforms? I'm also a little curious about the rationale they use. They act like normal high schoolers but when conversing with those family members, they talked about then only being Dolls made for the sole purpose of saving people and they lose their purpose if they're rejected by the ones they're saving. If you wanted effective "Dolls," why would you program (teach?) them to have that sort of mentality. I guess I should be more specific. I'm not really questioning the three girls rationale...more so the organization they're working for. I can't really pin that on this episode because I had the same complaint about the first episode. It didn't do a very good job of "establishing" it's characters and their motives and the second episode didn't do a whole lot to improve upon it. We did get a better glimpse into the girls' personalities and saw a pretty interesting side story (I thought it was) but that's about it. It did a hell of a lot of nothing in regards to explaining the main plot. |
| hmmm. i liked the first episode more tbh. i'm more skeptical now. i didn't really understand that guy's choice. "leave me here. i don't want miku to see me like that. i only care abour her smile." that's bullshit. if he really had cared about her so much, he would have gone with them instead of just lying there. i mean wouldn't you fight? wouldn't you try your best to survive, so you can see your daughter again and so your daughter won't be all alone? it just makes me so angry, argh. i'm also surprised to see these girls have so many emotions, especially ibara. i thought she would be the tough leader, but her crying was... unexpected. not sure if i liked it. i wonder what the other episodes will be like. will this whole show be about those three girls and how they save people in that city? every episode with other people they try to help? i actually thought we would get to see more... surviving instead of them just saving people. |
| The scene between Aoi and the Auntie made me feel something. As for the rest of the episode, maybe it was a tad too dramatic and fast paced, but at least we will get to the good stuff sooner hopefully. |
| trained for 18 years... but they don't seem really professional at all |
| After a bit sleep and reading this thread (especially Higashi_no_Kaze comment). I come to the conclusion that this episode was actually pretty shitty and everything Higashi_no_Kaze said is 100% valid. Especially about the dialogues. Who is the writer for this? I know the director is the guy who did K and K was at least as bad as this episode. Mardock Scramble was actually good and in that he didn't direct it only the animation so I guess he should stick to that instead. |
| I am falling, I am fading, I am drowning, help me to breathe. |
| I like the MC honestly, she has a wide range for developing her character. This episode was pretty dramatic, I expect more despair things for the future. The ending gives me chills. |
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| Rushed and melodramatic, very weak episode...2/5. I hope this isn't how the rest of the series will be, the previous episode was promising. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: That was HORRIBLE. Plain bad is not enough to describe this :/ EVERYONE behaving like the most illogical and stupidest fuck ever created, I mean wtf? Random infanticide sidestory than ends with a hug, so many awkward and out of place dialogues (You are no doll! why are you so strong? I just wanna see my daughter smile so I die because she only wants to have at least one family member left! Fuck common sense!). Not to mention weird scenes like when she was saving the girl. One moment you see her holding onto the mother's hand and the girl is in her mothers arms. Then she let's go and suddenly the girl is in her arms although she used her second arm to hold on to the building. Dat magic. So much disappointment and it's the kind of disappointment that doesn't relate to one specific thing but the whole way the show is presented, which is just thoughtless and lame. So I'm not having high hopes for this to recover unfortunately. /rant Two words. Thank you. I had given up hope in humanity after seeing all those "good episode, deep episode, step up from last week" posts. Like seriously? No, this was fucking horrible. :s Especially the scene with saving the kid via magic is simply ridiculous. Coppelion, y u so bad? |
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elvenladders said: This episode just was all over the place and tried too hard to be sad. zellami said: Just because the girls are genetically engineered to sustain hazard, doesn't mean they are "professionals" - they are sent there because of what they are. And if their sole purpose of existence is to be sent to places that stink of radiation, you'd think they'd condition them to behave calmly and 'professionally' in stressful situations. Instead, these 'dolls' start crying at every little thing and are as dull as they come. They certainly are conditioned with abilities, but abilities and training do not constitute the whole of a personality. Perhaps this is one of the things the anime seeds for thought. The girls often fell in this trap - "we are not dolls", "we are humans" (Aoi b/w episode 1 and 2, for example). Then the megane shoujo says she is glad to be born human, but compared to what. Then Ibara states they are "dolls", yet cries for being distrusted in her mission, which is to find and save humans in the contaminated area - what kind of dolls are they really. Like it or not, there are rifts all over the place - the government SDF3 program, the "school", the choice to genetically alter girls, why people prefer to live in the most unbelievable place, who is this unknown benefactor, providing food, etc.), which the anime perhaps will answer with every new mission or encounter. |
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