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kitonok said: I'm blushingdestructo22 said: That pat on the head....the greatest of all time. Your avatar pic makes your statement much more... interesting. |
Awesome episode... Loved the development and pacing :) The feels were high in this one |
| Amazing episode I just love it and this arc was ok overall. |
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| I guess that kind of entrance took Araragi 4 episodes to plan it. Lol. All jokes aside, I'm glad to see my main man Araragi back, and that's one bad ass sword he got there. Nice arc, enjoyed it a lot, even tho I felt so bad for Hanakawa at the end, and how she got rejected, she would be a much better waifu for him then Hitagi. |
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| w00t! Hanekawa got a room!! xD |
| Best episode since the twelfth. Araragi has officially become badass. 6/5. |
| An unexpected Araragi went badass this episode, and eventually a make up at the end is all I need. :D |
| I lost all my shit when Arararagi appeared. Having him gone for 4 episodes made me realize how much I really love that guy. ^^ Poor Hanekawa ;_; and that pat on the head made me tear up. Lovely episode and arc. 5/5 |
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| >_>......O_O.....<_< !!!!! OMG!!!IT'S ARARAGI FACK YEAH!! \m/ 1st of all the feeling when Araragi came(like sniffing cocaine with a big smile on my face) 2nd Where the hell have you been Araragi(NO MANGA SPOILERS) 3rd Just freaking awesome episode....can't wait for the next one !!! >x< |
| Holy shit. <3 I wish that hair would stay. |
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| Hohohoho, MAH NIGGA Arararararagi is back and he looked cool as fuck. Damn I missed Kamiya Hiroshi's voice. 10/10 for the entrance. Amazing episode. The art was incredibly in this episode especially. Yes finally Hanekewa is now a full developed character, loved her development from Neko to Bake to this arc, she is a well written character. This arc definitely made me like her more. I can't fucking wait for Kabukimonogatari. 5/5 for this episode, 9/10 for the arc. Is it true that the next episode is a recap ? if so I hope it's considered a special like the Bakemonogatari recap since I don't like them wasting a precious episode on simple recap. |
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| Fanboy mode when Araragi appeared. Really enjoyed the episode, felt like watching a visual connect the dots. Forgot all about how you could only see Hachikuji if you were lost. Also her striped hair, understandable she dyes it but I hope it'll show again every now and then, I quite like it. Quite curious now as to where Araragi has been now... wonder if it'll be the next arc. |
Grouchio said: Best episode since the twelfth. Araragi has officially become badass. 6/5. 12th of Bake ? |
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| And on the fifth episode God said "Let there be Araragi" |
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| one of the best episodes of any anime I've seen in a while. |
tsudecimo said: Grouchio said: Best episode since the twelfth. Araragi has officially become badass. 6/5. 12th of Bake ? Twelfth of Bake. |
Grouchio said: tsudecimo said: Grouchio said: Best episode since the twelfth. Araragi has officially become badass. 6/5. 12th of Bake ? Twelfth of Bake. :D That was one of my all time favorite episodes of anything. |
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Ragingpie said: So if Hanekawa is insanely jealous of other people's happy families then can you just imagine how she was feeling while staying with those happy families. On the one hand I'm sure she was in bliss finally being in a place that feels like a home, but the tiger (and by proxy her) still wanted to burn it to the ground. So every instance of happiness that she was feeling was simultaneously cutting her heart to ribbons. It lends an entirely different perspective to the first 4 episodes. now that i read it and think about it... shit... then the tiger would have burned eveyones houses down untill nobody host her anymore? or the whole town get eradicated lol also, DAT ARARAGI, hell, i missed him so much ^_^ EDIT: also dat ranking, no one worse than 3, only 2 giving 4/5, the rest perfect 5/5, i never have seen something like this before... damm this episode was freaking amazing |
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| The best episode, yet, of the season! |
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| Great episode. Is it true they cut some things in hanekawa letter and a conversation with Shinobu at the end ? |
Ragingpie said: The lack of Hanekawa saying she has been abused and talking about how her parents excuses don't mean shit to her or any child, is terrible. It was a big part of her letter, why the fuck would you cut that. It makes it seem like the show is trying to say that they weren't wrong in abusing her. It also removes the most important thing she was turning her eyes away from. The episode was big and climactic and emotional, but they were so far off the mark storywise that I'd almost rather the novels get translated so I can read them than to watch the anime if they are going to pull this shit. Araragi rushed after her the second he got her photo, in case you are wondering the actual reason he's there. You summed up my thoughts entirely. WHY THE FUCK would they cut that out?! That is the WHOLE fucking reason she began cutting her heart away, and the reason why she went over the edge and created the tiger instantly as she noticed they had used the same cookware. It's the reason for the way she was up until now...it's just beyond me why they would skip that. It makes it seem like her cause for creating these extremely dangerous abnormalities doesn't fit the scale of just how destructive those things were. And it takes the weight out of her break down at the end, when all that emotion and pain came back to her all at once. I understand that it was a really long letter and they couldn't possibly fit all of it in, but it was the MOST IMPORTANT part of the letter. Not only that, it's the entire foundation behind Hanekawa's character, it's what creates her conflict and what causes her to struggle and ultimately change, and should've been the 'big reveal' of the arc...and all they did was barely hint at it.. I mean it was a fantastic adaptation other than that, but to me that was the ONE thing they couldn't possibly cut out. |
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| can you share the content with us then ? :o This novel isnt translated yet if im not mistaken. |
| It is, it's the last one that's fully translated. Just go to Baka Tsuki(or Quality Mistranslations), Neko:Shiro ch. 61 for the full letter but here's the meat of it: |
AlexTheRiotAug 3, 2013 6:32 PM
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Go10 said: Great episode. Is it true they cut some things in hanekawa letter and a conversation with Shinobu at the end ? Yeah. Here's the Shinobu conversation: |
| Thanks ! |
| I don't like Hanekawa, god thanks this story is finished. I hope the next arc will become better ^^ |
| Damn Araragi's a total badass! It's nice to have him back, the show just isn't the same without him. And as hot as Hanekawa is she just isn't that great of a lead character. lol. BUT DON'T CRY HANEKAWA! I'LL MARRY YOU! <3 |
Uchihafan25Aug 3, 2013 7:00 PM
| "No matter how much of a genius one is, in front of the Uchiha name, they're just ordinary people." - Sasuke Uchiha |
Tendou-kun said: I don't like Hanekawa, god thanks this story is finished. I hope the next arc will become better ^^ It should. |
| Hmm... As a response to all who thought that cutting up the letter was a bad idea, I think that Shaft is just constructing Hanekawa's character in a different way. I think the point is that the full version of the letter throws the ball completely to the parents, where as in the anime, the root is in Hanekawa herself. Where as cutting up the letter from that point was kind of "wrong", it makes the letter make more sense in general. They didn't have other "single" occasions in the letter, and making it that way makes sense, as she isn't writing to the reader, she's writing to another part of her, who already knows. It was a plea for help, not an expository dump. I don't think that cutting it up worsened it. It just changes the viewpoint a bit. |
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| i just dont like how he pat hanekawa head... i feel its not respectful, it like he is patting a dog head or sth, (japanese men "sigh" -_-) |
Syntriate said: Hmm... As a response to all who thought that cutting up the letter was a bad idea, I think that Shaft is just constructing Hanekawa's character in a different way. I think the point is that the full version of the letter throws the ball completely to the parents, where as in the anime, the root is in Hanekawa herself. Where as cutting up the letter from that point was kind of "wrong", it makes the letter make more sense in general. They didn't have other "single" occasions in the letter, and making it that way makes sense, as she isn't writing to the reader, she's writing to another part of her, who already knows. It was a plea for help, not an expository dump. I don't think that cutting it up worsened it. It just changes the viewpoint a bit. But why construct her character differently at all when the story is being faithfully adapted? The letter even states "that is the worthless answer to the question of why I am the way I am"..so why omit something the novel regards as so crucial? I do see your point in that they keep the focus on the fact that this was all her own doing, a byproduct of Hanekawa cutting away her own heart...but its bound to make viewers think "so that's it? she's just envious of a good family life and love?" Like I said, it lessens the scale of everything, and makes her breakdown scene less impactful. There's bound to be people thinking that she broke down in tears simply because she was rejected. And the letter in the novel even(I assume) purposely doesn't spend much time putting it on the parents, so as to keep the focus on how she dealt with it. And when she admits to the abuse, it isn't about revealing it to the reader(well it is) but rather her finally admitting it to herself, no longer turning her eyes away from it. This is a HUGE step in the process of facing everything, letting all that pain and emotion return to her. |
AlexTheRiotAug 3, 2013 7:40 PM
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| ARarararasdfjlaksdfgi came back asdkfjafiojeklmasdfasdf I have been waiting for this episode. That was a great conclusion to this arc, honestly, the second/third episode I didn't like too much but this episode was wonderful. Araragi just made it much better than it already was. I felt bad for Hanekawa, but I thought it was really sweet when Araragi said that he loved Hitagi more than Hanekawa. OTP moment. :'D But Hanekawa crying was pretty sad. |
| Only Araragi can do the whole *hero making it just in time*scene and still be badass,what the hell has he been up to his clothes are even more torn than Hanekawas lol arc ending nicely i truly feel they focused on Hanekawa little bit to much for my liking but it's over now so whatever hopefully the next arc is better. |
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katsu044 said: Well it is her arc after all...arc ending nicely i truly feel they focused on Hanekawa little bit to much for my liking but it's over now so whatever hopefully the next arc is better. |
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AlexTheRiot said: But why construct her character differently at all when the story is being faithfully adapted? The letter even states "that is the worthless answer to the question of why I am the way I am"..so why omit something the novel regards as so crucial? I do see your point in that they keep the focus on the fact that this was all her own doing, a byproduct of Hanekawa cutting away her own heart...but its bound to make viewers think "so that's it? she's just envious of a good family life and love?" Like I said, it lessens the scale of everything, and makes her breakdown scene less impactful. There's bound to be people thinking that she broke down in tears simply because she was rejected. And the letter in the novel even(I assume) purposely doesn't spend much time putting it on the parents, so as to keep the focus on how she dealt with it. And when she admits to the abuse, it isn't about revealing it to the reader(well it is) but rather her finally admitting it to herself, no longer turning her eyes away from it. This is a HUGE step in the process of facing everything, letting all that pain and emotion return to her. If you didn't notice, they didn't even have time for the opening in this episode. Of course, if the arc was made one episode longer, then it would have been a crime to cut that part of the letter. I think it could have been executed as a few flashing walls of text though... I don't think as a viewer: "That's it?" you see, as it's later pointed out, she isn't only envious of the families, she is also envious of the people themselves (Araragi the most, unsurprisingly). And the tiger is constructed from all her dark parts, not just envy, though envy is the main part. It's kind of funny that I do see your point in how it lessens the scale, but I just flip it in my mind. I think it widens the scale. It takes the blame away from the original problem, the family, but broadens it to the whole of her character. If someone thinks she breaks down just because she's rejected, they are just blind to the obvious. I do think that the rejection itself has little to do with it, but more like the acceptance of the rejection has a much bigger role (As the rejection actually came way before, in the 15th episode of Bake). The fact she accepts the rejection means she accepts the fact that she is envious of Senjougahara for having Araragi. She has finally come to realize that it's human to cry when you are rejected, but the fact she realized it so late makes her feel even more pitiful. Just my theory... |
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JOHJ said: Lovin the hair Dat hair. |
| Well now that that's over we can get back to sexually harassing an elementary school girl and the sensual act of brushing your siblings teethe. But on a serious note, this show does not disappoint. |
| god damn this episode was perfect. I felt so bad for Hanekawa at the end. So far, this has been like a breath of fresh air compared to Nisemonogatari. |
| This is exactly why i love Monogatari series.A 10/10 without any questions. Badass Ararararagi is back (FINALLY!) and Hanekawa gets some awesome hair...for only a few minutes ._. Thanks God nothing happened to Gahara-san, and Araragi said that he loves her more than Hanekawa! in general - an amazing arc. Too bad next episode is recap? (or so i heard) but oh well.Kabukimonogatari comes next! (SHINOBU! :DD) fawk yes. |
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| Awesome ep! Can't wait for next arc! |
| Season two doesn't start before Otorimonogatari. |
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