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ZagDrassil said: Hello everyone, I am new here :). koreye said: Gjkl345 said: I don't understand the Un and Ah concept. Given they live simultaniously without one dying from the other's certian needs suchas how Ah needs silence to feed off of and Un needs noise that is readily supplied by the world around them, how the hell did the plot ender of the lava hand sounds work? Do the Ah hate direct sound contact or something? So no one's spoken to him upfront and personal? Hmm this is the only conclusion I can come up with, fascinating story, but I truly do want to make sense of it more. If anyone can help me with this, please respond right away, even if this forum is pretty dead by now I suppose and I might be ignorant for not understanding it fully. My bads. just finished watching it. Might be a problem with the subs, but the way I got it is: Ah feeds off the silence that Un creates by feeding off all the sound from the surroundings. Ah lives through that silence, which is created when Un absorbs all the sounds from the surroundings (except for mushi sounds). That is how they co-exist, or rather that is why Ah follows Un. So the only thing that should work against Ah is sound, and the sound of ones own "vitality" is something that cannot be completely absorbed (unless the person is weakened, like mahos mum). I agree with interpretation of symbiosis between Un and Ah, but (just as Gjkl345) I think that remedy against Ah was illogical. Both of Maho and his mother covered theirs ears before Ginko had came. I suppose that Maho's mother didn't win against Ah, because she didn't lost her horns. I construe that the silence of her last day was just a consequence of change of Ah's host. So what was a remedy? Focusing on own body sounds? I don't think so - when You isolate noises, its natural to hear own heartbeating or breath. Therefore, in my opinion, this solution doesn't have any sense. Deus ex machina. . I dont think so. The remedy is not just the sound of body or any sound, but the sound of 'vitality', and that can only work when Ah has followed Un, resulting in horns growing in the head. as surrounding sounds cannot reach the ears, sound of 'vitality is needed to 'kill' Ah. Notice that at the time mahos mom and maho put their hands on the ears, Ah had infested the mother (the symptom of which is growing of horns), and Maho was only suffering from 'Un' (no sound). Putting hands on the ears did not work for the mom cuz she was weakened (as GInko points it out towards the end), and it did not work on Maho at that time because he was only suffering from 'Un' and not 'Ah'...it worked on Maho muhc LATER after he got infested by Ah and grew horns because he was not in the final stages, and had more 'vitality' Which means, that if Un infests the ears, the only solution is to find an Ah and let it infest the ears as well, and then use sound of your 'body' to cure yourself, if the sound is strong enough. Its like a paper scissor rock thing, Ah overcomes Un, which is cured by sound. I have not seen the ep in over an year, but that is what I remember (anyone is free to correct if I'm wrong) |
eyerokOct 14, 2012 2:20 PM
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| I like how this show has taken strange every day things, but subtle things and woven them into the supernatural. Things you see when you close your eyes and things you hear when its really quiet. |
OomyungJan 9, 2013 6:26 AM
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| Amazing episode, really great story and an amazing pace! |
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| As others have said, I'm really enjoying the slow, peaceful feel of this show. It makes the supernatural stuff all the more creepy and effective. It reminds me a lot of Kino's Journey with each individual episode being its own little story. Great stuff, and I'm looking forward to learning more about those interestingly creepy little Mushi, lol |
| Great episode, I start to love this anime too. Also, it has some great pictures, like the snowy mountains in this episode :3 :3 :3 Man, I just want to watch more and more... fudgy said: Kittenia said: I actually covered my ears and could hear it. THIS. I'm so in love with this show so farrrr~ THIS! |
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| I'm becoming addicted to this show!!!! XD |
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| Wow, such a beautiful episode. |
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Kittenia said: I actually covered my ears and could hear it. True fact. Anyways, started off pretty slow, but it got better towards the end. Seeing the horns just fall off like that was just so weird... LOL |
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| Ah man, it is the sound of lava when you cover your ears. What a beautiful show this is. |
brakesforturtles said: Ah man, it is the sound of lava when you cover your ears. What a beautiful show this is. It's one of the more thoughtfull written series.. It manages to create a peacefull atmosphere around thing's that would be found ''creepy'' otherwise. |
fiane said: I covered my ears and I hear wind blowing through a cave. I guess this kinda things are personal... For me it has always been the sound of the sea when you are under water :) Never thought it sounds like lava too. But the sound of fire and rain can be similar too if you think about it, which makes everything even more magical. This show is like snow. Pieceful and powerful, calm and terrifying in the same time. It's pure poetry... |
| Maho is such an adorable kid. I love the part when he sneaks to go outside and turns around and is surprised by Ginko. This anime is really interesting, like the second eyelid, or the sound you hear when you cover your ears. I've covered my ears before, but have never thought of it sounding like lava. It's kind of weirdly calming if you think about it that way. |
marywhistley said: fiane said: I covered my ears and I hear wind blowing through a cave. I guess this kinda things are personal... For me it has always been the sound of the sea when you are under water :) Never thought it sounds like lava too. But the sound of fire and rain can be similar too if you think about it, which makes everything even more magical. This show is like snow. Pieceful and powerful, calm and terrifying in the same time. It's pure poetry... Well personally i always thought it as "cave sound" but i guess it can be interpreted many ways. |
| Loving this show so far. The atmosphere of this episode with the snow and everything was wonderful, sharp contrast to the "lava" we hear when covering our ears. Those little Mushi seem so innocuous and innocent but are actually very unintentionally malignant (oxymoron?). The interactions between Ginko and the other characters in this series are excellent, I will not tire of the dialogue that is for sure. Also, like others in this thread I immediately thought FLCL when I saw the horns and was half expecting there to be a Rickenbacker shaped Mushi. |
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| Maho has such a cute voice! (jap. ver.) I'm starting to like this anime more each time I watch an episode so far. The anime is really calming in a way. The snow is just beautiful and the sound of lava is very calming. I would definitely fall asleep to that sound. The music is very beautiful too. Very soothing. I never thought the horns would fall off. I thought they were just going to go back inside his head. Can't wait to watch more episodes. Loving this. n_n |
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| Aww' I feel for them. Try imagining it .. like you're also listening to lava. It feels weird. like there's a water inside you and when you try to move, you can hear it and it's very weird and and and.. you know what I mean :D |
| Another great episode, now I'm on board the Mushishi train :) |
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| This is a bit late, but I hope someone can answer it! I understand that the Ah dies when it hears the sound of your vitality, so what makes the Un die as well? Since the Un feeds on sound, it should stay alive from the sound of your vitality, right? I guess you could say that the Un only feeds on noise from your surroundings (rather than the noise of your vitality), but if so, then you could just cover your ears (thus blocking surrounding noise and kill off the Un without needing to be infected by the Ah. |
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Tienjt said: This is a bit late, but I hope someone can answer it! I understand that the Ah dies when it hears the sound of your vitality, so what makes the Un die as well? Since the Un feeds on sound, it should stay alive from the sound of your vitality, right? I guess you could say that the Un only feeds on noise from your surroundings (rather than the noise of your vitality), but if so, then you could just cover your ears (thus blocking surrounding noise and kill off the Un without needing to be infected by the Ah. Covering your ears doesn't create complete silence, and that little sound from the body is exactly what kills Ah. And what kills Un is salt. |
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| so deep. love dat shiet. |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| Some of the things I don't understand get explained here, thank you for those who explained! I'm glad I lurked around the episode discussion after I watch the said episode. brakesforturtles said: Ah man, it is the sound of lava when you cover your ears. What a beautiful show this is. |
lotusgg said: I don't get it. The Ah dies when he hears the sound of one's vitality(hand), isn't it? But Maho did it often, and it didn't work. Ginko also asked for Maho to put his hands on his ears, but couldn't he do it himself? Why the hand trick only worked after Ginko told him? Makum said: I can already see that this is going to be one of my favourite animes.. it's creepy, but also beautiful and full of world's wonders.. This episode was extra beautiful with all the snow silently falling, but I have to admit that the way Ah dies seems still a little bit confusing to me. Does it die if the person with the horns himself covers his own ears, or does it have to be someone else to to do the covering? I don't really understand the way it dies.. If someone can answer this, I'm really thankful! Un absorbs surrounding sounds, Ah follows later as it is attracted to the sound vacuum created by Un. Ah is killed by your own vitality (its symptom is growing of horns). When Maho and Maho's mom initially tried putting their hands on their ears, it did not work for the mom because she was weakened and her 'vitality' (and its sound) was not strong enough, and it did not work on Maho because he was only suffering from Un, not Ah. It worked later when GInko told him, because Ah infested his ears later in the episode. Ah is killed by covering the years, not Un. Litrydow (above) mentions that Un is killed by salt, but I can't recall that piece of info, its been some time since I saw it. I was under the impression that when Un infests the ears, the only solution is to let in Ah and then kill them both off with the sound of body's 'vitality'. Whether or not someone else has to do the covering of ears is unclear I think, but I presume that it has to be the sound of your own body's 'vitality' |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| Coming from a guy who usually only like action/fast paced animes... this show is amazing. The atmosphere and the sounds are just outstanding. I get this really cozy feeling when watching this.. Absolutely love it. |
Un absorbs sound. Ah absorbs silence Un alone can be killed with salt. But if Ah comes horns grow. And then both of them can be killed only after listening to those lava sounds hands can produce. But the problem is: it didn't work with Maho all those times he tried it earlier but later on when Ginko came and told him to do that, it magically worked. The only plausible thing I could come up with is that maybe they couldn't be killed at the beginning because Maho was only making silence with his hands then. He just had to move them a bit for the muscles to produce sound which only then could kill both. I guess due to Ah being killed by any kind of sound and Un not being able to survive with only that small amount of sound. And that sound couldn't be any other than the 'vital' one. Great episode, btw. ^_^ |
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| the atmosphere in this series is one of a kind also each episode having a new and utterly beautiful song different than the rest is a nice touch |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I'm having the weirdest boner, lol. |
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| weird series... I love the opening! english lyrics?? SUGOI!!! |
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KatsuraRen said: Yeah, it was great.Loved the concept of hearing lava. First a mushi that steal away your sight, and then a mushi that steals away your hearing. It was a nice follow-up. Maho's voice was great. Zell182 said: Yeah, this makes it feel really credible.I love how this series is both peaceful but disturbing at the same time |
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| This series really makes you think. The soundtrack is just great too. All of the ED songs so far have been so nice and tranquil. |
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KatsuraRen said: Loved the concept of hearing lava. Yea... I was surprised Ginko didn't ask the granny why she didn't mention anything about her daughter though. |
| wow interesting as fuck little bit of feels for the mother though :,< |
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| Another beautiful episode! |
 These rare moments of humour and adorableness.❤ |
| I loved it. Great music, and obligatory snow episode was actually beautiful |
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| Guess the Mushi don't only affect children. This show is super calming to watch right before going to sleep. |
fuven said: Guess the Mushi don't only affect children. This show is super calming to watch right before going to sleep. I did this last night. I agree. Without a doubt it's definitely best when the entire house is silent. Oh, question. Wasn't it someone elses life vitality that caused the An to ooze out or was it just what the mother was seeking? How did the boy get it out with his own hands then? with his own "laval" i presume? |
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| So, how many of you put your hands over your ears at some point during this episode? |
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BurntJelly said: So, how many of you put your hands over your ears at some point during this episode? I did it after the episode just to see if it sounds like lava. It does. Gosh, this show is so relaxing and beautiful. It's like poetry in motion. This just might end up being one of my favorite anime. |
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| Does this show stay like this for the rest of its run? I'm asking because the show is so good already, it's hard to believe it can stay this consistently amazing over the course of 26+ episodes. I'm taking my time with this show, and it's paying off in spades. Mushishi is awesome. |
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| This would be great for Christmas time. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| slow and steady |
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| i know that maybe its to late to comment but i just start watching mushishi and i like it a lot but i don t get how the kid got cured it simply makes no sense , at the begining of the chapter their clearly show you the boy with the horns ( alredy infected by the ah ) covering his ears and then at the end out of the blue he covers his eras again and the "ah" suddenly dies, also i read the other comments when they explain that his mother was too weak to hear the sound of her own vitality but that dosent make sense either she clearly says that she had been doing this since a long time ago coz it reminded her husband, well i have my theories and other doubts but it would be to long for a dead thread i just wanted to clear my doubts hearing other opinions pd: sorry for the poor english is not my language |
| I got confused with how the Ah was killed off, but nonetheless the beauty of the episode was expressed clearly. |
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