Kamina- said: I like anime better simply because some Real Life shows get really annoying when a show shows a crime scene and you can tell that it is not real, like you can see the "dead" bodies finger move. I mean, Nice acting bro -.-t Yeah, cause anime is way more realistic. |
SetsukoHara said: Yeah, cause anime is way more realistic. There's a subtlety that you're completely missing there. Live-action looks like reality. So it's jarring when it fails to behave like reality. Animation doesn't look like reality, so it gains license not to behave like reality, it can be unreal far more easily. |
logopolis said: SetsukoHara said: Yeah, cause anime is way more realistic. There's a subtlety that you're completely missing there. Live-action looks like reality. So it's jarring when it fails to behave like reality. Animation doesn't look like reality, so it gains license not to behave like reality, it can be unreal far more easily. Nice sweeping generalizations. |
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| I have more anime that I enjoy more than tv. However TV shows like Breaking Bad, Game of thrones, Sherlock and Arrested Development all rank up with my favourite anime. 9used to enjoy dexter but quality has dipped, also still need to watch the wire) |
dankickyou said: I don't think it's sweeping to assume live-action looks more like reality than anime.logopolis said: SetsukoHara said: Yeah, cause anime is way more realistic. There's a subtlety that you're completely missing there. Live-action looks like reality. So it's jarring when it fails to behave like reality. Animation doesn't look like reality, so it gains license not to behave like reality, it can be unreal far more easily. Nice sweeping generalizations. |
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| as much as i love anime, i also love real life tv series. Kamina- said: I like anime better simply because some Real Life shows get really annoying when a show shows a crime scene and you can tell that it is not real, like you can see the "dead" bodies finger move. I mean, Nice acting bro -.-t are you sure you aren't watching The Walking Dead? ^_____^ both are appealing but i think i'll choose Anime over Real Life TV series any day. One proof is that i'm a member of an anime forum and not a real life tv series one. Uhm.. hehe ~ |
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katsucats said: dankickyou said: I don't think it's sweeping to assume live-action looks more like reality than anime.logopolis said: SetsukoHara said: Yeah, cause anime is way more realistic. There's a subtlety that you're completely missing there. Live-action looks like reality. So it's jarring when it fails to behave like reality. Animation doesn't look like reality, so it gains license not to behave like reality, it can be unreal far more easily. Nice sweeping generalizations. You dont say. I was talking about this part mainly. I only quoted ^that part because it was the last quote in their argument. Also, live action breaks out of reality all the time that it actually effects our perception of real life. Many things that the people take for granted as realistic isnt real at all because of live action shows. logopolis said: That depends. In drama, anime wins. I think the peak of live-action television drama is seasons 26 and 27 of Doctor Who. But even these can't compete with something like Utena, because live-action is so restrictive, you can barely play with the look of the thing, you have to include all sorts of irrelevant details just to look realistic, you can't change the proportions of your cast and so forth. In comedy, there's no anime which can quite match the likes of Monty Python or Yes Minister. Because using subtle visual cues isn't nearly so useful, animation is far less of an advantage, and the quality of personnel behind those shows takes precedence. |
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| Over the last 2 years I've pretty much stopped watching tv. The only shows I even bother to watch nowadays are How I Met Your Mother & The Big Bang Theory and even then I only watch them online. |
| Live action tv shows are better for me... Game of Thrones, Lost, Dexter etc, etc... Some anime are great but overall TV series have more quality and quantity of that quality :P PS: I don't really use TV to watch TV shows... I never really used a TV properly for years. If I needed something I'd either stream it or watch the tv on my laptop >.> TV is for noobs |
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| Before I watched anime, the only shows I watched in TV were Family Guy and a show about video games. Now that I watch anime, I've given up on video games completely so I don't see the point in continuing to watch the show. I don't watch Family Guy on TV all that much, but I still buy the DVDs and watch the show every now and then. Although unless you have Foxtel, Australian TV is pretty shit. If I had that, I'd probably watch TV more often. |
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| I don't watch TV shows much, not because live-action is somehow inadequate to present drama, but mostly because I don't like the directing that is usually associated with the format: episodic cliffhangers, pointless twists, melodrama, unreasonable villains, etc. Come to think of it, a lot of these plague anime too. There are some TV shows I could get into, but they aren't that common. The only genre that I consistently appreciate are Chinese wuxia shows, which to me are kind of like live-action versions of shounen fighting anime (underdog hero learns all the world's greatest martial arts, finds love, and defeats villain, saving the world in the process). These are based off of short novels, the most famous author being Jin Yong, so they are closer to anime based off of manga or visual novels in their source, instead of being written by a team of career show scriptwriters that compose most TV shows. I think you could just feel the difference in the details when a show or movie is based off a book. However, the best venue for drama remains with big budget movies. |
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| Family guy is animated >.< |
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SquadmemberRitsu said: Before I watched anime, the only shows I watched in TV were Family Guy and a show about video games. Now that I watch anime, I've given up on video games completely so I don't see the point in continuing to watch the show. I don't watch Family Guy on TV all that much, but I still buy the DVDs and watch the show every now and then. Although unless you have Foxtel, Australian TV is pretty shit. If I had that, I'd probably watch TV more often. that's because you're 16 |
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renders said: SquadmemberRitsu said: Before I watched anime, the only shows I watched in TV were Family Guy and a show about video games. Now that I watch anime, I've given up on video games completely so I don't see the point in continuing to watch the show. I don't watch Family Guy on TV all that much, but I still buy the DVDs and watch the show every now and then. Although unless you have Foxtel, Australian TV is pretty shit. If I had that, I'd probably watch TV more often. that's because you're 16 I would normally say age doesnt affect what you watch, but... I watch stuff from buck rogers to legend of the seeker, so I dont let what I was born into affect what I watch. |
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| Generally speaking, I prefer to watch anime. There are just so few American TV shows I really don't care to watch. I do like some comedies like Two and Half Men (with Charlie Sheen, not Ashton Kutcher), The Big Bang Theory, Family Guy (the last four or five years have generally sucked), The Simpsons (see Family Guy), and Bob's Burgers. I did like a lot of the classic comedies such as Everybody Loves Raymond, Frasier, and Spin City. There are very few dramas/action TV I enjoy. I'd say my favorite TV dramas have been Elementary as of late, Last Resort (although it's starting to bore me with how BS it's getting), and Flashpoint (Canada represent). |
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| I prefer anime. I only really like one or two live action shows. |
| It really depends on the show or the anime some shows are fucking amazing like The Wire, Game of Thrones, Dexter, Breaking Bad and Spartacus, but the majority of stuff on T.V is total garbage, but that said so it most anime, considered its mainly tailored towards Japanese Otakus. Like T.V shows though there is some amazing stuff like Berserk, Kemonozume, Samurai X Trust and Betrayal and ofcourse the new Jojo anime. Overall theres a lot more anime in general considering like 20-30 come out every season, but the quality of anime can just be really really low compared to the quality of most T.V series. |
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| I'd have to say Game of Thrones can definitely compete. |
Coolspot said: Don't mind him, he's an idiot.renders said: SquadmemberRitsu said: Before I watched anime, the only shows I watched in TV were Family Guy and a show about video games. Now that I watch anime, I've given up on video games completely so I don't see the point in continuing to watch the show. I don't watch Family Guy on TV all that much, but I still buy the DVDs and watch the show every now and then. Although unless you have Foxtel, Australian TV is pretty shit. If I had that, I'd probably watch TV more often. that's because you're 16 I would normally say age doesnt affect what you watch, but... I watch stuff from buck rogers to legend of the seeker, so I dont let what I was born into affect what I watch. |
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| There are Tv shows in genres that usually don't see many anime adaptions. Psychological or mature slice-of-life or political manga usually get live action adaptions instead of anime even in Japan. Stuff like The Wire would be a perfect example, it wouldn't make sense as an anime. I'm still surprised that Monster got an anime adaption, or Uchuu Kyoudai, because they might as well have been live-action only. In that regard I highly value The Wire or Boston Legal simply because there'll never be an anime like those. And they are great shows too in every aspect I care about. Then there's your classic sitcoms with adult main characters - another rarity. Shows focusing on Doctors are also rare (I love Black Jack but it's the only one I can think of). So I personally love Scrubs more than most anime - because it has both and it's hilarious and interesting at the same time. Similar things can be said about House. Another genre I enjoy very much is sci-fi and anime DOES have many shows in that area. LOGH is of course my alltime favorite anime and Babylon 5 my alltime favorite live-action in those departments and their focus is very similar although the setting is not. I still find them next to impossible to compare to each other though, which just shows that topics like this don't make much sense. Be it an american TV show or an anime - it always oozes the culture that spawned it into existence, has different priorities and different expectations to meet. Even if we ignore the different focus in terms of the genres they support and focus on the similar ones, a fair comparison is basically impossible without taking cultural differences into account. Add to that the fact that animated/non-animated stuff has as many different priorites as products of different cultures have and just give up on topics like this ever attracting anyone but people who want to bash or praise either side. Anyone with a serious interest in making fair comparisons will know better and stay away from such topics. |
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| I prefer Live action shows and the series I think can compete have been repeated through out this thread so I wont bother. |
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| My rational side tells me that Western Series are written better in every single way. But then again, being a film student, the style of writing that is taught as the 'right' way to write is very narrow. When it comes to anime, despite the format of series of episodes I would liken anime to movies in structure and writing. Western TV series focus very much on the characters, and you would not last long in the business without realistic characters with fleshed-out character development arcs, inner and outer motivations, witty, polished dialogue and everything else under the sun. Though I'm mostly talking about AMC and HBO series, I legitimately have not dabbled in any western TV other than that, so I suppose I'm comparing anime to the cream of the crop of western writing. However, I prefer the format of anime - and I only just figured this out the other day - but I adore the romanticism and not perfectly realistic stories. I find I can empathise with characters much more when it's not so completely realistic and I'm a total and utter romantic which is one of the biggest reasons I love Air so much. |
| Im suprised too see so many oppsoties It seems that you either watch alot of one or the other, me watching a little of each seems to be the minority. |
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| The Wire was the last real good TV drama, IMO. Nothing else since then has come close. |
| I stopped watching TV a long time ago.I still watch some TV shows on my PC but they are no match to anime. |
| Quantum Leap is my favorite TV show ever :) not only that if i made a list of my favorite (TV+Anime+Movies+Cartoon+comic+book+all media) Quantum leap is No1 :D yes i'm totally a fanboy there are others Tv show :- sliders Doctor Who The Adventures Of Brisco County Jr. (brouse cample) Angle According To Jim: Season 1 Cosby The Golden Girls: The Complete 1st Season Married... With Children: Season 1 Scrubs (i TV show that i hate alot at first, love like crazy now) Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Star Trek: TNG Star Trek: DS9 Star Trek: Enterprise |
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| I like TV series but i much prefer anime... TV is always limited compared to anime, anime can literally do anything and do it well. |
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| I haven't watched TV for a good 2 years or so, so it's only natural that I think anime is better. |
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Kamio-chan said: My rational side tells me that Western Series are written better in every single way. But then again, being a film student, the style of writing that is taught as the 'right' way to write is very narrow. When it comes to anime, despite the format of series of episodes I would liken anime to movies in structure and writing. Western TV series focus very much on the characters, and you would not last long in the business without realistic characters with fleshed-out character development arcs, inner and outer motivations, witty, polished dialogue and everything else under the sun. Though I'm mostly talking about AMC and HBO series, I legitimately have not dabbled in any western TV other than that, so I suppose I'm comparing anime to the cream of the crop of western writing. However, I prefer the format of anime - and I only just figured this out the other day - but I adore the romanticism and not perfectly realistic stories. I find I can empathise with characters much more when it's not so completely realistic and I'm a total and utter romantic which is one of the biggest reasons I love Air so much. Something that can be said about nearly all fields of human endeavour: To become competent, you must learn how to follow the rules. To become an expert, you must then learn how to break them. So it's important that a writer knows how to write realistic characters, but it's generally a bad idea to actually do so. All you can do with a realistic character is tell stories about a fictional character. And ultimately, fictional characters are unimportant. They're made up, they don't really exist. So why care about them. But an unrealistic character can be so much more. At best, an unrealistic character can embody fundamental ideas like "hate" or "pity" or "love so strong it drives men to violence". Take Misuzu from AIR. One thing you can observe about her story is that she successfully finds reason to live and be happy even in the face of hardship and impending doom. If AIR was some HBO show, she would be an imitation person, so that's all it would be. A story where a fictional character manages to find reason to live and be happy even in the face of hardship and impending doom. But because she's not realistic, she has the freedom to be so much more. Misuzu is the finding of reason to live and be happy even in the face of hardship and impending doom. (In the relevant parts of the story.) So it's no longer just a story about a fictional character. To nick a phrase from those Shakespeare fans who may be weird but do have good ideas sometimes, it's a story about the human condition. It's a story about something which countless real people over the globe will be trying to do right at this very moment, some of whom you might even know, maybe it could even be you at some point in the future. So unlike a fictional character, it's important. It's something worth caring about. And even if nothing like this has ever been thought about by a person, or even makes sense, you recognise this sort of thing instinctively. A fictional character is something you look at on a TV screen. But what that character represents are the things which affect your life, the lives of loves ones, real people you don't know but care about anyway. And it makes the whole thing real. It's a connection to actual reality, rather than just the empty mimicry of reality. Which makes it worth caring about. HBO stuff may be the pinnacle of TV writing as a craft. But writing is an art. It's communicating things the writer cares about, not making the perfect product according to the rules of the craft. (One of the reasons Key stuff works so well is that Jun Maeda clearly cares about the things he's writing about, constant topic of different sorts of 'family' and the like, so he communicates these feelings to the reader/viewer.) Which is why, for those who can process information in a sufficiently abstract way to like the fact that they're watching drawings rather than photo-realistic recordings and not get upset that they don't look real, the best of anime (and a few other things, some of which are even Western in origin) will always be so much more meaningful, so much more powerful, and ultimately, so much better than anything the conformity-and-correctness-inducing American television system can produce. |
| I think real life series are overall better. Friends, GoT, Breaking Bad, Sherlock, True Detective, Fargo, Scrubs and Psych are the real life series I consider somewhat masterpieces when it comes to animes there are only DN, CG, OP, HxH, FMA:B. erjo5055 said: TLDR: American TV is generally more dramatic and cliche, while anime tends to be more thought provoking in my opinion. How is anime less cliche ? |
| Hmm I don't really think I can compare the two just because they're so different from each other. I have favorites with both types just more with anime currently :P I love me some Ghost Whisperer though~ |
Anime_Name said: If only boring shows get canceled, yes. Uh, I don't think it takes a lot of observation to know that this isn't the case. I mean, one if my favourite tv shows, Jericho, was cancelled because of american idol. There's quite a bit of bias floating around. There are plenty of non technical reasons one medium is better than the other, and people are mostly comparing technical details like drama quality or realness. That's not the main thing that separates both media. The biggest contributing factor (that I'm surprised no one has mentioned) is the target audience is completely different. Culture-wise different things will interest different people. The reason I mostly dislike American dramas is because so many rely on gore, sex or violence as popularity fuel. The more gore, more sex the better it sells regardless of actual plot content (see true blood, game of thrones). Now granted, I enjoy game of thrones and the plotline is interesting but the sex is extremely unnecessary at times. That's why popular dramas that don't rely on it are usually really good (breaking bad, house md, house of cards). Though granted it's definitely one of the advantages live action has over anime (that violence/gore is more realistic and thus more immersive). Let's not even touch on how cringeworthy and mind numbingly boring american sitcoms are. I've laughed more in one season of anime than 10 of any american sitcom. The second biggest problem is the unnecessary extension and prolonging of series to milk it dry, rather than ending them where they should. In that aspect breaking bad did well, instead of dragging the story any further it ended, a very short duration for its popularity level. So many dramas suffer from this sickness. House md is one of them, though I enjoyed it because I like watching the character interactions, it was kind of obvious they ran out of ways to execute cases a few seasons in. I stay away from long running anime for this reason, and I get to pick and choose shorter, well received shows or shows that have been fully adapted/concluded. At least anime has this option. There are very few tv shows if any that have ended in less than 5 seasons of their own volition. Even extremely popular manga like bakuman, mushishi and death note ended in no more than 3 seasons. Now if we get into the technicals, imo there are 2 main points. Anime can be more expressive in its own unique way because of how you can portray an unrealistic expression or emotion, taking things to the extreme (eg steam coming out of your ears). But with good acting, live action can become very immersive and emotionally engaging when you can really feel the emotion from more subtle queues via facial expressions and body language. TL;DR: different target audience, unnecessary story dragging, unique technical differences Each have their own appeal. Neither is strictly "better" |
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| I only watch anime and thats because knowing me, If I were to jump over to that medium today, I'll end up with a huge backlog which is something I would really hate to experience again. |
| I barely even care about TV anymore the only thing I'm really watching right now is the X-Files mini series. I just find anime more interesting. |
| Random X Vs Y Thread. Both are totally different. While they both air on TV, TV shows are totally different than that of anime. Thread Locked |
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