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Oct 30, 2011 6:40 PM

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It's been difficult to me to see this sudden change in Yuuji's personality.
3/5
Oct 30, 2011 7:08 PM

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Great episode, epic animation and the battle was spectacular :p
Oct 30, 2011 7:36 PM
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I think Yuji's right though he should've told Shana and the others first before transforming. If Shana knew his plan, I don't think she and the others would've struggled as much. The Flame Haze can't protect everything and nobody is willing to take initiative to end the fighting. Are the Flame Hazes alright to let people keep disappearing pointlessly? Is it ok for denizens suddenly coming onto streets to literally suck people's existence out of them? Is it ok for denizens to starve just because to take people's existence and because they're ugly?
And Yoshida's not as bad as all that slander that people put on her. It's hard for a human to gain powers (where else could she get powers to rival Shana unless by a contract with a lord?), though she should've asked for it. Plus, you cannot overlook that she always goes into danger even though she has no powers for Yuji's sake. That kind of loyalty deserves something at least. Yuji was right to send her away. If she was involved with Yuji anymore than she did during the last two seasons, she carries huge chance of becoming a torch and fading away. More power = better chance for romance.
Oct 30, 2011 7:52 PM
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Chinese imperial emperor and loli mistress.

Oct 30, 2011 9:21 PM

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Yuji... How could you punch a loli int he stomach?


I still love you Shana <3


The last 21 minutes... The music is perfect.. PERFECT I tell you


Oh, and YOSHIDA GOT REJECTED HARD. That bitch deserved it for being such a shitty character for the last 2 seasons
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Oct 30, 2011 11:44 PM

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Good episode.
Oct 30, 2011 11:59 PM

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Pretty colours everywhere. 5/5

Looking forward to next episode.
Oct 31, 2011 4:06 AM
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Next episode, Yuji is going to teach Shana how to make babies.
Oct 31, 2011 4:17 AM

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Dark_Pride said:


Next episode, Yuji is going to teach Shana how to make babies.
You my friend have made me ROFL in real life! Gud Job! xD Put that on google images xD with the test "How to make babies" xD Lawl


Oct 31, 2011 7:20 AM

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The best episode so far!
Nah it's the best episode in all anime I've ever watched... (And its over 9... I mean 5 thousand)
NAH!!! It's best thing ever made by humans!! xD

All those emotions on Shana's face... fight scenes... There's just too many epicness to describe and I can't find enough words. This is what I was waiting for!! Please JC Staff make more episodes at least as good as this one.
Oct 31, 2011 1:42 PM
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i was waiting for this episode to come out. made my day and looking forward to the next episode
Oct 31, 2011 2:11 PM

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This episode was everything I expected it to be. Epic episode, I loved it.

It had like everything. There was great fight scenes with them destroying everything. Yuji explaining basically what happened and his plan, still caring for Shana. Shana showing her emotions to Yuji. Margery finding out the truth and going insane. Then last but not least, Yoshida gets her heart crushed woot.

Looking forward to next episode, especially Shana in the picture above.
Oct 31, 2011 4:14 PM

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Damn Yuuji would make an awesome model for a shampoo commercial!

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Oct 31, 2011 4:52 PM

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Wow, just wow, this episode pretty much explained alot of stuff, I knew, I just KNEW Yuji wasn't evil.
He was just doing it to protect Shana, who I feel pretty bad for aswell T_T, and some kind of mindfuck part at Magery's past aswell, didn't quite got it, but i'm looking foward to episode 5 now, CANNOT WAIT!
Oct 31, 2011 6:29 PM
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DenjaX said:
Damn Yuuji would make an awesome model for a shampoo commercial!


Festival Snake Shampoo: hair durability enhancement and regeneration. Make sure your hair pwns everyone else.
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Oct 31, 2011 6:36 PM
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I feel bad for the previous enpatsu shakugan; she built this awesome reputation and sacrificed herself. Shana just rides this reputation while being very weak in comparison. Is there an explanation?
Oct 31, 2011 7:11 PM

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wakka9ca said:
DenjaX said:
Damn Yuuji would make an awesome model for a shampoo commercial!

Festival Snake Shampoo: hair durability enhancement and regeneration. Make sure your hair pwns everyone else.

^LMAO. See how he flips his hair duuuudeee:


U like dat? XDD

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Oct 31, 2011 7:16 PM

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jcs1 said:
I feel bad for the previous enpatsu shakugan; she built this awesome reputation and sacrificed herself. Shana just rides this reputation while being very weak in comparison. Is there an explanation?


Technically speaking looking at pure potential, Shana is in fact the strongest flame haze of them all now and before. Shana has been the only person ever to be able to sustain Alastor's full power and existence as show in the end of season 1, that by itself says that if Shana were to learn how to use Alastor's full output, she would be the strongest flame haze period.
As for why she might look weaker than the previous one, well I cant say for sure but I'll just try to guess that its because of experience? Im not entirely sure how long Shana has been a flame haze compared to Mathilde but I will say that Mathilde knew how to fight better since she might have had more experience. I really wish I could read the Eternal Song manga to learn more about her.

The other reason why Shana looked pretty bad here is because going up against Yuji now is not easy, remember he not only has a power output that matches the strongest flame haze but he also knows how Shana fights because of all the training they did together. Add to that the fact that he carries Blutsauger, which is an overpowered weapon in terms of close range combat, he has the anti-flame ring Azuse which grants him immunity to any long range attacks, and he doesnt even need to worry about wasting his energy because the reiji maigo will simply recharge him every time. Nope, im sure no matter who goes against Yuji right now, they would lose.
Oct 31, 2011 9:36 PM
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Finally, my endurance is starting to pay off - things have just become interesting.

They already managed make me doubt Yuuji a little. I do get where he's coming from, but his methods are too harsh and cold to inspire any confidence. He hurt Margery and Shana quite a bit and didn't even look sad while doing it. Plus he didn't try very hard to negotiate. If he has a good idea, he sure sucks at selling it...
Oct 31, 2011 10:09 PM

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Nichibotsu-kaeru said:
i think i will always be lost in this series, i have always found it confusing with the importance of remembering a big list of names, and not necessarily knowing what they look like and only being told why they were important once. plus it was a long time ago since i watched the first 2 series any way, does any one know of a web sight where the past events can be explained in a short form so i don't feel like i have to watch the first 2 series again?
I feel the same way. I also need some clear answers on what Yuji is doing. Maybe it would have helped if we had seen what happened between this season and the last.
Oct 31, 2011 11:59 PM

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Margery seriously couldn't handle the horrible truth.
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pretty good episode
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Nov 1, 2011 7:22 AM

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InfiniteDestiny said:


Nichibotsu-kaeru said:
i think i will always be lost in this series, i have always found it confusing with the importance of remembering a big list of names, and not necessarily knowing what they look like and only being told why they were important once. plus it was a long time ago since i watched the first 2 series any way, does any one know of a web sight where the past events can be explained in a short form so i don't feel like i have to watch the first 2 series again?


Well I'm sure there are Wikipedia's for it or you could read forums but you risk spoiling the rest of season 3 that way, so in honesty season 2 was really lack luster in plot which is why from what I've read people were negative on it as it focused more on a love triangle that few cared for considering the obvious true couple of the show, i posted before on this forum what i found to be the plot and point of season 2, as for season 1 its mostly Shana and Yuji development and what is the meaning of a Torch and the meaning of a Flame Haze, all the "villians" are dispatched with quick enough and never seen again.The only notable villains are saved for the very end where Yuji gained a grand amount of existence in the last episode in his first fight with the Bal Masque is notable because its probably why he can contain the Snake of the Festival now, since all the existence he gained that day replenishes itself at that new standard. Also names aren't really that important, from the OP it looks like a bunch of new Flame Hazes will be introduced etc etc but from what i get i understand the plot to this point and i still don't remember all the names, besides there are probably gonna be new Flame Hazes like the one in episode 2 who simply die off anyway.


oh ok, and thanks for the little recap :)
Nov 1, 2011 8:51 AM

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I feel the same way. I also need some clear answers on what Yuji is doing. Maybe it would have helped if we had seen what happened between this season and the last.


This season is a direct continuation of the last one, the first episode starts off with Yuji "disappearing" on the Christmas Eve in which he was gonna choose Shana like the last season implied, the first episodes were showing the Shana side of it, with pieces of Yuji but now that Shana is captured I'm sure we will learn more from the Bal Masque side of things, with that said there is little time difference from the last season to now, it started on Christmas Eve like last season ended than had a little time skip of when they were adjusting to a world where he wasn't there which was pretty much episode 1 and in that time he was leading the Bal Masque, so if you get caught up on the last two seasons you should be fine. As for what Yuji is doing, he is trying to end the war between Flame Haze's and Denizens because as a Flame Haze Shana is nothing more than a tool for Alastor to use to fight for eternity which in Yuji's eyes is a miserable existence so he is simply trying to end the reason for the fighting at all, as for the methods well... we will see I'm sure.

Nichibotsu-kaeru said:
oh ok, and thanks for the little recap :)


No problem, hope it helped :)
Nov 1, 2011 12:11 PM

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I was disappointed in Shana this episode. Instead of staying strong, she pulled back, all whiny. Well, at least she got carried by Yuuji.
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Nov 1, 2011 12:14 PM

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i knew sitting through the above decent first season and below average 2nd season would pay off eventually

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 1, 2011 6:32 PM
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Technically speaking looking at pure potential, Shana is in fact the strongest flame haze of them all now and before. Shana has been the only person ever to be able to sustain Alastor's full power and existence as show in the end of season 1, that by itself says that if Shana were to learn how to use Alastor's full output, she would be the strongest flame haze period.

Yeah, I did get that from season 1 and the movie but potential isn't good enough if you're dead before it's realized.

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As for why she might look weaker than the previous one, well I cant say for sure but I'll just try to guess that its because of experience?...

Could be that and/or she's just too young. Margery and Wilhelmina are always teaching her something.

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The other reason why Shana looked pretty bad here is because going up against Yuji now is not easy...

I wasn't talking about just this fight (no one had a chance against him) but all her fights in general. Maybe all modern flame hazes are weaker; didn't the ancient ones seal Snake of the Festival? And I assume without Mathilde's help because he mentioned Alastor came over after this event. Despite the potential to be the greatest flame haze, all the modern flame hazes are getting their asses handed to them by Bal Masque. Bal Masque loses in the first season because Hecate is convinced she's empty, desynchronized with Yuji. They lose in the second because of the emotions she acquired backfired. lol she's the weak link. The flame haze wins were just luck.
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jcs1 said:

I wasn't talking about just this fight (no one had a chance against him) but all her fights in general. Maybe all modern flame hazes are weaker; didn't the ancient ones seal Snake of the Festival? And I assume without Mathilde's help because he mentioned Alastor came over after this event. Despite the potential to be the greatest flame haze, all the modern flame hazes are getting their asses handed to them by Bal Masque. Bal Masque loses in the first season because Hecate is convinced she's empty, desynchronized with Yuji. They lose in the second because of the emotions she acquired backfired. lol she's the weak link. The flame haze wins were just luck.


It may look that way but remember the trio of Bal Masque are among the strongest of the Lords of Guze outside of Godly beings like Alastor and Snake. No matter the flame haze, they would have a tough fight ahead of them. However remember that Margery has already shown a couple times that she has enough strength to go one on one with Synoday, unless she is caught in an ambush like at the end of S2. Wilhelmina has also shown that she is able to hold off other ridiculously strong denizes like Sabrac.
As for Shana, she would also be considered a pretty strong flame haze as well, but like I said before...the Tomogaras that have been showing up in Misaki City have often been some of those in the "high tier" list. We have seen Shana take down other tomogaras without as much trouble in the past as well like the Aizen twins, that guy with the rings, that weird canon looking guy and so on.

And about their victories at the end being "luck"...well, in a way you could say they managed to win because Yuji was there to come up with something. Too bad they must now go up against their go-to mystes
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Margery scream was so stupidly long.

I didnt like the episode ,as usual , wonder if im able to like an episode from this , was better than the last one at least.
Nov 2, 2011 7:01 AM

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Can somebody remind me what those "letters" that Yuji sent to Shana and Yoshida meant?
Nov 2, 2011 7:40 AM
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Can somebody remind me what those "letters" that Yuji sent to Shana and Yoshida meant?
Back in season 2, Shana and Yoshida agreed to confess their love to Yuuji by letter to avoid any pressure/advantage that may come from doing so in person as well as having to decide who would go first. Each of them stood at different Christmas trees in town during Christmas and Yuuji was supposed to meet with the one he loved in return. After his disappearance, he had the letters returned to the girls as a temporary response while he went about getting everything ready for his return as the leader of Bal Masque.
Nov 2, 2011 8:04 AM

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episode was good! wonder what will happen next (this season already way better than S2)
Nov 2, 2011 6:03 PM
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Just a quick question, is the story following canon (the light novels)?
Nov 2, 2011 6:24 PM

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Just a quick question, is the story following canon (the light novels)?
yes

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 3, 2011 8:24 AM

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"Shana... I will protect you! Now stop dodging my attacks so I can hit you."
Yes, Yuji/Snake of the festival tried to get Shana to come with him peacefully at first, but if you have to beat up the person you want to protect, you might want to rethink things.
Nov 3, 2011 12:41 PM

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Such a good episode, I hope J.C can keep this up because I'd be disappointed if everything good ended here.
Nov 4, 2011 2:36 AM

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I find it confusing that the people from Bal Masqué also know that Yuuji is in the Serpent of the Festival, I don't get why they would still trust him. I assume that Yuuji wants to start a war to destroy every tomogara out there just like the first scene of episode 1 implies, though I don't get why the Serpent would want that himself even though he is a tomogara himself. The Serpent himself wanted that Yuuji's mind would be fused with his, it's really a confusing situation.
I hope we don't have to wait till the very end to know it, but that they will reveal it in a few eps.
Nov 4, 2011 3:57 AM
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I find it confusing that the people from Bal Masqué also know that Yuuji is in the Serpent of the Festival, I don't get why they would still trust him. I assume that Yuuji wants to start a war to destroy every tomogara out there just like the first scene of episode 1 implies, though I don't get why the Serpent would want that himself even though he is a tomogara himself. The Serpent himself wanted that Yuuji's mind would be fused with his, it's really a confusing situation.
I hope we don't have to wait till the very end to know it, but that they will reveal it in a few eps.


Eeeehhh...WHAT?! Yuuji doesn't want to destroy every Tomogara out there, he wants to end the war between Tomogaras and Flame Hazes once and for all. I assume with enough peaceful methods.
You should rewatch this episode.
Nov 4, 2011 4:14 AM
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Evil is Cool, indeed )))
Shana is a rather unusual example of a Magical Girlfriend-like anime where
the Ordinary High School Student actually gets some power ups from
being ordinary and powerless. From a shadow of a dead teenager
to an evil overlord - who would have expected such a promotion Oo
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This anime just ruined Yuji even more than I thought they ever could. Yuji is just an awful character now. Cool, he's all powerful now, and he's gonna protect Shana. Yeah, I would have preferred it he was weak and helpless forever,developed him emotionally rather than physically, he's worst than a door now. He'll protect Shana! COOL! Yeah, no, he had to basically attack her and forcibly take her. That's basically rape. Not okay. The amount of slaughter this anime does to Yoshida (my favorite character, and one of the best characters J.C.Staff has ever created (take that Shana shippers)) is nowhere near as bad as the character butchering they have done to Yuji. I actually LIKE Shana now, whereas I despised her in the first season (she was good after the first season) because Yuji just makes me so frustrated, now THAT is the worst character J.C.Staff has ever created.

"Awww Yuji carrying Shana <3" Yeah, guys, she's been forcibly taken against her will, and she's being carried while she's UNCONSCIOUS, yeah, real romantic >.>
Nov 5, 2011 4:33 AM

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I believe this is where the story for this season actually begins. It could also work as the true first episode of the final season. Compared to the previous episodes, this one with its plot development is just mind blowing. The only thing I didn't like in this episode was Margery's extended screams, though.

If I hadn't spoiled myself a little bit during the long wait for the final season, I would've been very surprised to learn Yuji has acquired power that could equal Alastor's own through the Snake of the Festival. He's practically untouchable now, however he's also become the leader of the enemy. He's made some of his intentions known, but I wonder what his master plan is.
Nov 5, 2011 11:58 AM
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That's surely not what I expected, but it was amazing nonetheless. I'm a little bit confused about that thingy Yuji claims to be. However, I'm looking forward to episode 5 this weekend!
Nov 6, 2011 1:33 AM

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This is getting better than I expected, despite a slow start in the first two episodes.

Curious to know exactly why Margery went desperate, maybe I missed something?
Nov 6, 2011 3:39 AM
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This is getting better than I expected, despite a slow start in the first two episodes.

Curious to know exactly why Margery went desperate, maybe I missed something?
Margery's reason for wanting to kill the "Silver" wasn't because it killed people she cared for but because it killed people she wanted to kill herself. It took her only purpose of living (her planned revenge and hate on those who used her) and left her empty. Now, after hundreds of years following after this "tomogara" she learns that it wasn't a Crimzom Denizen at all, but a manifestation that took shape in reflection to her desire to kill. In other words, she DID kill them, her enemies died because of her. SO once again she has no purpose and all her years seeking revenge have been wasted.

In essence: She broke down because she learn she had no purpose. She was literally seeking revenge on "herself".

Nov 12, 2011 11:25 AM

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and finally it starts to get interesting and I wish to see more ... going from a poor 5 to a 7-8 :) might turn in an 8 or 9 depends :P
Nov 13, 2011 5:50 PM

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Shakugan no Shana singlehandedly brought me back to anime. It's been like, god, half a year or something. Awesome stuff.
Nov 23, 2011 6:09 PM
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What the ---- is this? Don't try to fix something which isn't broken...

EDIT: Well I'll admit that it got a little better in the following episodes but still... Why the hell isn't Shana protesting or even wondering why Yuji is the leader of Baule Masque.....? This is so strange lol. It feels like they think everyone will understand everything but I don't understand anything... Wth
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I am sorry, I still don't understand WTF is going on.

Even if Yuuji is doing all of this to save Shana and "protect everyone he cares about", why is saying something that might kill Margery all right?

I don't see how Yuuji's actions are justified by his goals.
Nov 28, 2011 12:43 PM

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That was an ass kicking! A proper ass kicking. And though Shana is the one who really lost, Margery certainly took it in the teeth.

I don't get Yuji's logic at all right now. I guess he wants to fundamentally change the world using Bal Masque's methods, but I don't really see how that protects anyone right now. Then again, I'm still about confused as to what Bal Masque is trying to do.

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THIS EPISODE just got me hooked. For real.
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