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| It was funny until the end. Pretty emotional with Okabe realizing he should've been himself when he was with Ruka. I couldn't stop laughing when Daru said "huh" when he walked in hearing Kurisu saying he was coming along with them to watch Okabe. Not to mention his little rant. Next episode will go back to the dark tone we all love. Enjoy and think of this episode as being the show's comedic climax as there won't be anything near that level for the rest of the show. |
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| so after all, he can't like him anymore, when he was a girl it is "like", but when it comes to boy... just respect. How sad it is to turn your girl friend into a boy. Its just like he killed the female Rukako and replaced her with Ruka. Ruka may have the same memories as Rukako, but he is not Rukako that Okabe knew, he is Ruka, Rukako never existed in this world line... i almost cry... it must be a tough choice for Okabe. |
| since everyone has basically already spoken my thoughts... can anyone post some visual novel pics related to the episode? rukako is one of my favorite girls of the show, even though she's not one any more (yes, i saw the youtube link to rukako's end, but i really don't want to spoil myself with "what ifs", not until the show's end) |
| There is 2 D-mail left Moeka and the first D-mail that use okabe ( By mistake ) to sabe kurisu in ep 1 from being murdered |
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ilawlatnoobs said: does anyone know who the girls daru mentioned are? Game characters from the HGames he plays. It was even mentioned in the episode. |
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ilawlatnoobs said: does anyone know who the girls daru mentioned are? i think: nene - love plus shiori - kanon? honoka - no clue rinko - love plus *correct me if im wrong :P |
| Great episode. Ruka is just confused between respect n love. Blind_Guardian said: That's awesome, man, thanks for sharing! It was awesome to see the "What If" for Rukako staying a girl. Sad in a lot of places, but I think it was a pretty happy ending. Also thanks to darkziosj for the preview link, though I could've guessed next episode was Moeka-centered. We may finally find out who/what FB is. OMG happy ending you said? IMO this is the most disgusting(if I put in the fact that Ruka was originally a guy) among all of the possible endings. That picture after the credit... oh God you brought back my terrible memories... it was buried deep inside my mind... To tell you the truth, I actually liked this ending because it's so freaking wired. =] The song Butterfly of Fate is just a perfect fit for these alternative endings. Great performance from Sakakibara Yui too. The voice... the melody... the lyrics... all of the emotions... People knew that it's no use to go against fate(God), but they just never give up and keep trying n trying n trying, hoping that they will one day break free from God's trap n loop... *sob* Next week - Why did u do that to me... FBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFB... |
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| Decent episode. Moeka episode should be pretty awesome out of the last 2. So I'm excited for next week. Random thought: Could it be possible for either Mayuri or Kurisu to remember the old timelines of them dying(in Mayuri's case, her multiple deaths)? |
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RealScreamer said: Decent episode. Moeka episode should be pretty awesome out of the last 2. So I'm excited for next week. Random thought: Could it be possible for either Mayuri or Kurisu to remember the old timelines of them dying(in Mayuri's case, her multiple deaths)? Considering the two times he's hammered the details of the alternative worldlines into people's heads, they've remembered them in varying detail, it's very very possible that they could if he did the same thing. However I don't really think he would do that unless it was unavoidable. |
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STM said: I'm really wondering how he's going to deal with Moeka's d-mail. And I felt sorry for Rukako. Now he's back being a dude, he was way happier when he was a girl. :/ Yeah lol, it would of been beautiful with Okabe! But now Rukako is a guy :/ |
| such a sad episode poor rukako MapoTofu said: Does anyone know the name of the insert song when Ruka is crying/hugging Okarin? i think this is the song heres the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I--dPsyAP5Q |
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| Sigh, I can't even listen to the OP any longer without imagining Indo. Okarin, you're so subtle. "Kyou mo ii tenki~" But damn, that was one awkward date. And Okarin without his lab coat is not Okarin. 「だが男だ。」 I missed hearing that. Tl;dr it's so sad that Ruka has to go back to being a trap. Then again, he wouldn't be a trap if he was a girl. |
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Blind_Guardian said: This was a great episode, heavy on the comedy again but after the Necrosis arc we can use some more lighthearted stuff. I do agree that it seemed pointless to undo Rukako's D-mail, since it still won't get the IBN back. Should've gone straight to Moeka. I actually thought that, but after some thinking i'll disagree. Yeah, it would have been "nice" if Ruka stays as a girl, but i realize that in the end Ruka realizes that it doesn't mater his/her sex, Okabe just see him/her as a dear friend and the only reason he/she has to trying to become a girl was being able to confess to him so she/him realizes that it was pointless to keep the time line changed and it was more important to save Mayushi. Idk for sure, that's what i think, and in the end is more significant to the development of Rukako character imo. |
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Sery said: Blind_Guardian said: This was a great episode, heavy on the comedy again but after the Necrosis arc we can use some more lighthearted stuff. I do agree that it seemed pointless to undo Rukako's D-mail, since it still won't get the IBN back. Should've gone straight to Moeka. I actually thought that, but after some thinking i'll disagree. Yeah, it would have been "nice" if Ruka stays as a girl, but i realize that in the end Ruka realizes that it doesn't mater his/her sex, Okabe just see him/her as a dear friend and the only reason he/she has to trying to become a girl was being able to confess to him so she/him realizes that it was pointless to keep the time line changed and it was more important to save Mayushi. Idk for sure, that's what i think, and in the end is more significant to the development of Rukako character imo. Was it a case of in the timeline of Ruka being a girl, she broke it while cleaning and yet when Ruka was a guy it wasn't broken? If he had just skipped Ruka and tried to undo Moeka's perhaps it would have still been broken in that timeline since Moeka probably then wouldn't know where it was. |
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Juin said: Obviously skipping a D-Mail change could easily mess with the chain of changes. And I'm guessing that it was just a random change, like the lotto number being off by error. Just so happens this random change costs them the IBN. A little cheap but the "I remember" bits are more cheap. At least random changes are covered as normal under your modern time-travel science-fiction.Sery said: Blind_Guardian said: This was a great episode, heavy on the comedy again but after the Necrosis arc we can use some more lighthearted stuff. I do agree that it seemed pointless to undo Rukako's D-mail, since it still won't get the IBN back. Should've gone straight to Moeka. I actually thought that, but after some thinking i'll disagree. Yeah, it would have been "nice" if Ruka stays as a girl, but i realize that in the end Ruka realizes that it doesn't mater his/her sex, Okabe just see him/her as a dear friend and the only reason he/she has to trying to become a girl was being able to confess to him so she/him realizes that it was pointless to keep the time line changed and it was more important to save Mayushi. Idk for sure, that's what i think, and in the end is more significant to the development of Rukako character imo. Was it a case of in the timeline of Ruka being a girl, she broke it while cleaning and yet when Ruka was a guy it wasn't broken? If he had just skipped Ruka and tried to undo Moeka's perhaps it would have still been broken in that timeline since Moeka probably then wouldn't know where it was. It's shows how far into the show we are when even our breather episode is full of drama. As for why Ruka completely forgot even though Feyris hinted at her past world line, I'm guessing it has to do with the fact Rumiho accepted her father's death as something that happened (and consequently considered her 10 years along her dad a nice dream/gift) but Ruka/ko never accepted he was a boy. She/he even made him promise to remember him as a girl. So Rumiho accepted both realities but Ruka kept clinging on. Just a theory though. |
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| ...and a not-so-shocking revelation about Kurisu ;D Excellent episode, as far as both drama and comedy go. |
| Nice drama there :D I wonder how he's going to reverse moeka d-mail. Why can't he just send a dmail to himself about not letting moeka use it. |
Juin said: Was it a case of in the timeline of Ruka being a girl, she broke it while cleaning and yet when Ruka was a guy it wasn't broken? If he had just skipped Ruka and tried to undo Moeka's perhaps it would have still been broken in that timeline since Moeka probably then wouldn't know where it was. Yes, reversing Ruka's d-mail would lead to the wordline where the IBN5100 is not broken as well as Ruka being a male again. Theoretically, you can't undo people's d-mail in random orders because then you would deviate even further from the original worldline. You're trying to retrace your route. Moeka's d-mail was what helped create Ruka's wordline, which in turn helped create Feyris'. If you start with Moeka's, you would end up with an entirely different wordline where things changed even more. |
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| Great episode for character developments. I'll never look Ruka the same way before. <3 |
d4n13lr0x said: Suzuha got time machine and she know that Kurisi is dangerous . I wonder why she don't kill her in the past? 0.0Kurisu is screwed. She's so dead T_T DesolateOne said: isn't that what Okarin is trying to do?Yes, reversing Ruka's d-mail would lead to the wordline where the IBN5100 is not broken as well as Ruka being a male again. Theoretically, you can't undo people's d-mail in random orders because then you would deviate even further from the original worldline. You're trying to retrace your route. Moeka's d-mail was what helped create Ruka's wordline, which in turn helped create Feyris'. If you start with Moeka's, you would end up with an entirely different wordline where things changed even more. |
MorningGloryAug 3, 2011 11:11 AM
shinki7 said: Nice drama there :D I wonder how he's going to reverse moeka d-mail. Why can't he just send a dmail to himself about not letting moeka use it. He cant , she didnt send the d-mail in this timeline , it was in another. In that timeline , they never send the dmail , it just got to moeka from another timeline , so you cant change it without knowing what happened. I mean , in this timeline moeka just received de d-mail , as she received it , she had no need to send it ,so okabe cant prevent sending the dmail (because it never happened for them) , he can only prevent or change the receivement. |
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| I'm so sad that Rukako go back to being a guy !! But at least this bring one step closer to the original world line |
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juniorvilhena said: fuckin filler ep 17 and ep 18 would be 1 episode only.. no need for this kind of filler in a 24-episode anime These are not filler episodes.. are you retarded or something? If they all took the day off and went to the beach, that would be a filler. |
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MorningGlory said: DesolateOne said: isn't that what Okarin is trying to do?If you start with Moeka's, you would end up with an entirely different wordline where things changed even more. Err technically yes, but not in that way. His goal is to first go back to the worldline in which the IBN5100 is still at the Future Gadget Laboratory. Then he can make a major change in the right direction to lead him to the beta wordline. |
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juniorvilhena said: fuckin filler ep 17 and ep 18 would be 1 episode only.. no need for this kind of filler in a 24-episode anime I felt that it was rather rushed actually. The 4 day date was cut down to 1 day too. |
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DesolateOne said: He's trying to undo the changes and THEN make a change that will move the divergence back up. I dunno why some people find it so hard to grasp. :-)MorningGlory said: DesolateOne said: isn't that what Okarin is trying to do?If you start with Moeka's, you would end up with an entirely different wordline where things changed even more. Err technically yes, but not in that way. His goal is to first go back to the worldline in which the IBN5100 is still at the Future Gadget Laboratory. Then he can make a major change in the right direction to lead him to the beta wordline. |
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Sigsig said: juniorvilhena said: fuckin filler ep 17 and ep 18 would be 1 episode only.. no need for this kind of filler in a 24-episode anime I felt that it was rather rushed actually. The 4 day date was cut down to 1 day too. Lol IF it wasn't cut, Steins gate will run for more than 2 seasons.. 1 day date is enough, since we don't need the extra fluff. (rhyme not intended) And there's no reason to play the VN if they did that lol. And rather than calling it a "fucking filler", It was rushed. RUSHED LIKE HELL. Like Sigsig said, they date with Rukako lasted much longer in the original story. Many details were changed to fit the anime into 24 episodes Short Synopsis from the original VN (The dating part -> D-Mail) Bolded parts shows the differences |
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| I think there's a high possibility that Kirisu might die, divergence 1% must be reach but in order to do that he must also reverse Suzuha's D-Mail since Suzuha is dead and can't be reverse anymore in exchange the very first D-Mail must be reverse and that is Kirisu must die just to increase divergence percentage. Just a random thought feel free to contradict my theory though I'm Kirisu fan myself but no worries... Just another theory if Okabe finally reach Divergence 1% he may actually have control over someone's fate as because Suzuha told him to become Messiah although I don't know how they gonna do that. sorry for my bad english. |
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| I got that harem feel this time. Wasn't my favorite episode, but I suppose I can understand the necessity. As long as Moeka's not in love with him too >.< But if it continues in its steins;gate-ish way, then the next episode should be something to anticipate. How is he gonna do it? And then there's the fact that the numbers on the divergence bar have hardly crossed halfway. The Moeka D-Mail will of course make a huge leap in that, but I think he'll need a little bit more; that little bit more being stopping Kurisu's death. Everyone's saying this now, and you have to admit, it's extremely likely. T__T I'm not looking forward to that... |
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| Actually Moeka's dmail only moved the worldline from 0.571015 to 0.523299. The big jump was the first dmail ever sent. ;) Which may be larger than most realize. |
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Leon-Gun said: DesolateOne said: He's trying to undo the changes and THEN make a change that will move the divergence back up. I dunno why some people find it so hard to grasp. :-)MorningGlory said: DesolateOne said: isn't that what Okarin is trying to do?If you start with Moeka's, you would end up with an entirely different wordline where things changed even more. Err technically yes, but not in that way. His goal is to first go back to the worldline in which the IBN5100 is still at the Future Gadget Laboratory. Then he can make a major change in the right direction to lead him to the beta wordline. Young audience watching. Kids are supposedly less intelligent now as well according to news reports. hikaricore said: Actually Moeka's dmail only moved the worldline from 0.571015 to 0.523299. The big jump was the first dmail ever sent. ;) Which may be larger than most realize. Yeah I get the feeling that Okabe was already in a world past 1% divergence. But because of his accidental D-mail it pushed him back. EDIT: Checked episode 1 again. The part where he sent his first accidental D-mail. Maybe I'm seeing things but it looks like that D-mail turn the divergence number from 1.0XXXX to 0.57XXX. O_O |
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kaimax said: AHAHAHAHA! I knew it and knew it! The reason the IBN broke was mainly due to the inferior muscle strength that girls have, correct? In so Ruka himself as not realized that he was stronger and as the female part of her. Obviously he must have not since most people with common sense should in regards to biology 101. Anyway reversing that means that possibly by next episode the IBN will be there or somewhere else due to changes. ROFL! Oh how I am starting to feel joy in understanding things better. |
Day2Dream said: Hard to say since those sequences flash by fast and it's hard to claim which number it actually was on, since it seems to show random numbers until it settles on one.Checked episode 1 again. The part where he sent his first accidental D-mail. Maybe I'm seeing things but it looks like that D-mail turn the divergence number from 1.0XXXX to 0.57XXX. O_O Yumekichi11 said: Next episode it will be wherever Moeka sent it to (most likely in SERN's hands).kaimax said: AHAHAHAHA! I knew it and knew it! The reason the IBN broke was mainly due to the inferior muscle strength that girls have, correct? In so Ruka himself as not realized that he was stronger and as the female part of her. Obviously he must have not since most people with common sense should in regards to biology 101. Anyway reversing that means that possibly by next episode the IBN will be there or somewhere else due to changes. ROFL! Oh how I am starting to feel joy in understanding things better. |
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| This series continues to get better and better. juniorvilhena said: hikaricore said: juniorvilhena said: fuckin filler ep 17 and ep 18 would be 1 episode only.. no need for this kind of filler in a 24-episode anime These are not filler episodes.. are you retarded or something? If they all took the day off and went to the beach, that would be a filler. a full episode for a date between okabe and ruka? well, thats very important to the serie at all It's character development ~facepalm~ |
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Leon-Gun said: Oh dear Lord! If they make some sudden super action of invading SERN HQ then I will totally blow from excitement. It will be EPIC! I have seen those types in animes and they are usually good if done right. |
kusushi said: Oh man oh man! These videos are amazing in regards to the end of the characters. They may be 1 hour long but it's one you will not forget. Just saying if you like Feiris or Ruka then you will not waste your time in seeing their end VS those who had to play the game to get to it. this is merely a alternate end. do not watch this especially a last scene... For people that do not have time, it's worth it. |
Leon-Gun said: its still a bit strange. If using the time machine will lower the divergence. THEN what happen if Okabe use the time machine after he redo everything. if the divergence is 1.000% before Christina died(the first Dmail).then your theory is accepted. ... with all the SERN's experiment that appear in the news, I don't think the divergence start from 1.000% nor 0.000%.He's trying to undo the changes and THEN make a change that will move the divergence back up. I dunno why some people find it so hard to grasp. :-) Furthermore,I think the first time when the divergence change is around 10years ago when Okabe get high fever. when Titor.... Anyway, I don't even know did Christina die or not .No one check the pulse and the story cut off when Okabe run away from the building.Okabe simply sent a Dmail about the thing he saw and Daru treat the Dmail as a prank mail. or Maybe Daru is hiding something.... Its very unclear on what event will make the divergence go up or down.. |
juniorvilhena said: lucjan said: juniorvilhena said: hikaricore said: juniorvilhena said: fuckin filler ep 17 and ep 18 would be 1 episode only.. no need for this kind of filler in a 24-episode anime These are not filler episodes.. are you retarded or something? If they all took the day off and went to the beach, that would be a filler. a full episode for a date between okabe and ruka? well, thats very important to the serie at all It's character development ~facepalm~ it would be good if it was a 40+ episode series.. as long as its 24 only, the necessity of a date between okabe and ruka in a full episode is the same necessity as they go on the beach a day-long like it have been said before to be a filler.. btw, IMO feyris and ruka would have been done on the same episode ~~FOR A 24 EPISODE SERIES~~ you really aren't grasping the purpose of this show at all are you? |
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| Quite franckly I do understand why some people do not understand what this has to do with anything as it was implied. Kyouma want to undo the D-mail he let the lab members sent so that he can return to the world before his PC was connected to Sern. Correct me if I am wrong but the only thing the lab ever did with the IBN was being able to analyze Sern's database. Now it would seem plausible for someone to think that by returning to this timeline and stopping Daru to connect to Sern so that Sern do not get connected to them would make Sern unable to get information about them as well as killing Mayuri. In the recents timeline the group did not found the IBN and thus couldn't have connected to Sern, get tracked and then Mayuri getting killed. That is unless Moeka's D-mail has anything to do with it. We do not know what Moeka sent but it is highly succeptible of doing the same thing as the connection between Daru's PC and Sern : giving Sern information about the Okabe's group. Now it could be in any form, Moeka could have written to puce the block before Kyouma even started to live there or any reason and we do not have to know to continue. Then once Moeka's D-mail will be undone the worldline will return to what it was before Moeka sent her D-mail. From there on if Kyouma do not connect to Sern then he should be safe from trouble, that is if he wasn't already spyed on at this point but even that does not matter because Mayuri would still die from another way. As someone mentioned in episode 1 when Okabe send his first D-mail we cannot say for sure that he came from a divergence world >1% even tough it look this way but we can affirm for sure that once this D-mail was sent he was in a divergence world <1% which mean that at this point already Mayuri was doomed to die. somewhere >1% -> Kurisu die <1% -> Mayuri die Moving the divergence will result in different person dying, at one point Kyouma will probably feel forced to chose between Kurisu and Mayuri because he will not be able to move to another divergence line. In Suzuha's past Kyouma lived his whole life fighting against Sern and trying to change the divergence line, it is not something as easy as affecting the past with a D-mail, it is basically changing the fate of the world. |
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