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| I feel bad for Ohana, being hit by different sides :c well good episode c: |
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Lulexiaa said: Anyway, near the end when everything was going wrong I was telling my self "o gosh, whose gonna save her? ;___; It would be a miracle if Tooru came... but probably not" Then when he showed up (with Minko), I was just YESSSS THANK GOD!!! ;____; Fantastic episode! I really do ship Ohana and Tooru! ;___; But are Tooru and Minko having a date next ep? D; I really hope its just a date on her part. I also hope that when Ohana asks Tooru if he's ever had a girlfriend its at the end of all that drama and hopefully it'll be the start of something between them two. I'm so happy just thinking about it. Hopefully they don't burst my bubble. I just can't stomach Tooru and Minchi, but I'm o.k with Ohana and Kou, still my preference is Ohana and Tooru. I confuse myself sometimes. Anyways this episode was great!! |
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| Ah jeez this episode HAD SO MANY UPS AND DOWNS it was SO untrue. o_o One minute I was happy with how it was turning out, the next depressed, then annoyed, then even more annoyed. xD Mostly at Ohana's behaviour.. but I suppose it can't be helped since she has such an awful mother and upbringing >: ...I feel like the only shipper of KouXOhana out there xD And it's going to the dumps. ._.^ I really don't know anymore though -headdesk-. |
Snowflakes said: Ah jeez this episode HAD SO MANY UPS AND DOWNS it was SO untrue. o_o One minute I was happy with how it was turning out, the next depressed, then annoyed, then even more annoyed. xD Mostly at Ohana's behaviour.. but I suppose it can't be helped since she has such an awful mother and upbringing >: ...I feel like the only shipper of KouXOhana out there xD And it's going to the dumps. ._.^ I really don't know anymore though -headdesk-. Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see Ko and Ohana together myself. I just get the vibe that it's not meant to be. Ohana and Ko's progression in this series seems to be following the same path to a dead end as many of Mari Okada's potential ships have gone before. Tohru and Ohana just doesn't seem to fit. I think Ohana cares too much about Minko to let it happen. Ohana hasn't shown any desire towards Tohru anyways. It's Tohru that seems fixated on her. |
Snowflakes said: Ah jeez this episode HAD SO MANY UPS AND DOWNS it was SO untrue. o_o One minute I was happy with how it was turning out, the next depressed, then annoyed, then even more annoyed. xD Mostly at Ohana's behaviour.. but I suppose it can't be helped since she has such an awful mother and upbringing >: ...I feel like the only shipper of KouXOhana out there xD And it's going to the dumps. ._.^ I really don't know anymore though -headdesk-. Don't worry, you're not the only Kou x Ohana shipper. I know it's not looking great, but the way I see it, it's actually dealing with the confusions and ups and downs of young romance in a semi-realistic way. Being honest with yourself is lot easier said than done. Also, major points to Kou-chan for not jumping the glasses-wearing cutie just 'cause he could. Ohana seriously needs to realize how much he cares about her. |
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| The mother is so unrealistic and flat as a character that I can't even become annoyed at her unreasanable behaviour anymore. Yet another missed opportunity to get an interesting relationship going between Ohana, her mother and grandmother. Instead more contrived melodrama. At this point I don't care who gets whom as long as it won't be dragged out to the very last episode, which it probably will. |
| I kinda hope Kou and Ohana don't end their "relationship" and their feeling. I actually hope they end up together in the end, and Minchi will end up with Tooru, just as she wants it to be. From the previous episode I thought it was kinda unfair for everyone when Ohana gets everything (Tooru having feelings for her), but after this episode I see how wrong things have gone with her. And whats up with Ohana's mom? She returned to the city and didn't even try to contact Ohana at all. And in general she has been a really bad parent from the events in the first episode and from all the stuff Ohana confesses in this episode. |
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| Great (but sad) episode... I hate Kou since the first episode... now i hate him more!! 4/5 |
| haha so she was the one to see him with another girl. that is youth for ya. |
docchama said: "I've never been moved in so many ways in one day before" - this last sentence said by Ohana-chan perfectly fits the whole episode. I could be wrong but it sounds too similar to what she said at the end of the first episode. Kou has a right to move on, after Ohana basically did not respond to him for way too long. I guess its her fault for not even mustering up the courage in the first place. But I get the hint that since he didnt really respond to the other girl's confession, he probably still has feelings for Ohana. All that aside, the ending almost brought me to tears. :D |
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| OMG.. this episode is so sad.. and what will happen to Ko and Ohana? and "Bye" for the preview? Oh please bring me the next episode!!! |
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| Most dramatic episode so far in the series. So aching to see what goes down next episode. |
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nznznz said: The mother is so unrealistic and flat as a character that I can't even become annoyed at her unreasanable behaviour anymore. Yet another missed opportunity to get an interesting relationship going between Ohana, her mother and grandmother. Instead more contrived melodrama. At this point I don't care who gets whom as long as it won't be dragged out to the very last episode, which it probably will. I swear I am going to be soooo freaking pissed if there isn't come kind of explanation as to why Ohana's mom is such a mega-bitch. I don't get it at all either. It makes no sense that we haven't gotten even a tiny bit of development from her. She's a whore and I honestly hope she dies a painful death somehow with Ohana sniffing without a care in the world. That's how much I hate this character. And not in the love-to-hate way either. I seriously wish she'd never been written. |
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DenjaX said: She ran for sure from those perverted young boys in that car and she though the van was the same car. That's why. Did Ohana cry at the end because she hit her face on the post or was it something else... I didn't understand why she cried or even why she ran... She cried not because she hit the pole but because the emotional pile up was too much for her despite letting most of the ones from the past. |
| Favorite episode so far, I'm really curious to see where they will go with this, especially the romance, seems like Ohana does feel something about Ko that is more than mere friendship 5/5. Worst parent in my book is Gendo from NGE, but I still wish someone would slap Ohana's mom a few times. She had like one sympathetic gesture (giving some food to Ohana while she was protesting) throughout the entire series. |
| I would have liked it if Ohana gave Ko a reply. Or at least asking him for more time to think about her answer. Running away after realizing she's doing the same thing to him is... not nice. |
| Best episode evar! It's not easy being Ohana. But it's probably even less easy being Ko. Now he understands what it's like for Ohana, and he can sympathize with Namiko because he's in the same situation himself. I think Ko is being very mature and Ohana really isn't, but she's 16 so you can't really expect a lot. About Satsuki I can understand why she acts the way she does. The world isn't an ideal place, and she's very pragmatic, almost to a fault. It's not a matter of who's wrong or right, that's just how it is. |
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| Just because "it is how it is" doesn't meen it's right....call me a dreamer, but if a human can make it "how it is' then a human can change it aswell, only we have our own fate in our hands ^^ loved the episode though <3 all those emotions in one episode could be maybe too much but it was told perfectly in my eyes and those emotions came at the right time at the right place, loved it :D |
Norbiej said: Just because "it is how it is" doesn't meen it's right....call me a dreamer, but if a human can make it "how it is' then a human can change it aswell, only we have our own fate in our hands ^^ Dreamer. XP Not everyone can change their fate just like that. I think this is my favourite ep this far. Especially the second part. I think Ohana has feelings for Ko, but she doesn't realise this..I feel bad for Ko lol. |
Norbiej said: Just because "it is how it is" doesn't meen it's right....call me a dreamer, but if a human can make it "how it is' then a human can change it aswell, only we have our own fate in our hands ^^ loved the episode though <3 all those emotions in one episode could be maybe too much but it was told perfectly in my eyes and those emotions came at the right time at the right place, loved it :D Sure, you can do a Ghandi and "Be the change you want to see in the world." but honestly. What would Satsuki accomplish by refusing to do what her boss wants? She'd get fired, and when you have a child, sometimes you need to sacrifice your own values and beliefs to protect what's important. |
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| Wow, I thought this was a GREAT episode! O_O Poor review and written by her mom but I can see where she's coming from, I mean there's really not much you can do if that's what your boss wants. I thought they were both pretty honest in the restaurant and stuff (plus I bet Okami is what's keeping her away from the inn probably). Poor Ohana though, with all those things she kept from saying D; PLUS, KO AND THE BOOKSTORE GIRL OMG ...! I KNEW she was gonna run away but still T_T Tohru found her as well, guhhhh, what is this love pentagon madness?! There are TOO MANY PEOPLES! D; Well at least Ohana realized what she was doing ...? I don't really blame her for running like that lol X_X I really liked the ED this episode lol :3 |
Vinter said: Sure, you can do a Ghandi and "Be the change you want to see in the world." but honestly. What would Satsuki accomplish by refusing to do what her boss wants? She'd get fired, and when you have a child, sometimes you need to sacrifice your own values and beliefs to protect what's important. Well Ghandi is one extreme, but being absolutly lethargic is the other (maybe Japanese standards are much lower in this regard). You say you understand her because she has to earn a living for her child, yet she also has no problem to get rid of Ohana whenever she becomes a burden and doesn't even bother to contact her when back home. What kind of mother doesn't even call? Or leaves her daughter in the rain, alone in Tokyo at night? Her behaviour doesn't add up. She's just a flat cardboard character so we can feel bad for Ohana going through all the hardship, obvious contrived melodrama so Minchi can pick her up all in tears. That's downright wasted potential in a show primarily about characters. There's no consistent development, the writers go whatever shortcut is needed at the moment: "Quickly, we need another tearjerker! Here you go!" Someone already listed all the unbelievable coincidences happening this episode. I wouldn't mind if the rest is good, but apparently the whole show is build that way. |
nznznz said: Her mother is a great and best character on her own. Yes she is not the best mother in the world or maybe she doesn't even deserved to be called one either. She did what she could for Ohana but she won't go out of her way to do what she doesn't want to. Ohana is stubborn person and the show is revolve around her but why people still think that she should act like a perfect main character?Vinter said: Sure, you can do a Ghandi and "Be the change you want to see in the world." but honestly. What would Satsuki accomplish by refusing to do what her boss wants? She'd get fired, and when you have a child, sometimes you need to sacrifice your own values and beliefs to protect what's important. Well Ghandi is one extreme, but being absolutly lethargic is the other (maybe Japanese standards are much lower in this regard). You say you understand her because she has to earn a living for her child, yet she also has no problem to get rid of Ohana whenever she becomes a burden and doesn't even bother to contact her when back home. What kind of mother doesn't even call? Or leaves her daughter in the rain, alone in Tokyo at night? Her behaviour doesn't add up. She's just a flat cardboard character so we can feel bad for Ohana going through all the hardship, obvious contrived melodrama so Minchi can pick her up all in tears. That's downright wasted potential in a show primarily about characters. There's no consistent development, the writers go whatever shortcut is needed at the moment: "Quickly, we need another tearjerker! Here you go!" Someone already listed all the unbelievable coincidences happening this episode. I wouldn't mind if the rest is good, but apparently the whole show is build that way. |
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nznznz said: Vinter said: Sure, you can do a Ghandi and "Be the change you want to see in the world." but honestly. What would Satsuki accomplish by refusing to do what her boss wants? She'd get fired, and when you have a child, sometimes you need to sacrifice your own values and beliefs to protect what's important. Well Ghandi is one extreme, but being absolutly lethargic is the other (maybe Japanese standards are much lower in this regard). You say you understand her because she has to earn a living for her child, yet she also has no problem to get rid of Ohana whenever she becomes a burden and doesn't even bother to contact her when back home. What kind of mother doesn't even call? Or leaves her daughter in the rain, alone in Tokyo at night? Her behaviour doesn't add up. She's just a flat cardboard character so we can feel bad for Ohana going through all the hardship, obvious contrived melodrama so Minchi can pick her up all in tears. That's downright wasted potential in a show primarily about characters. There's no consistent development, the writers go whatever shortcut is needed at the moment: "Quickly, we need another tearjerker! Here you go!" Someone already listed all the unbelievable coincidences happening this episode. I wouldn't mind if the rest is good, but apparently the whole show is build that way. With that first part I was referring to when Ohana was young. The way I see it Satsuki views Ohana as an equal, not as her child. And if Ohana wants to run off into the rain, in Tokyo, at night, then that's her decision, and Satsuki won't stop her. And as it is now Satsuki is just trying to earn money, and she doesn't pretend to care about who she affects in doing that. It's like she's saying: "I just do what I'm told so I get my paycheck, and if I end up hurting others because of that, then it sucks to be them." She isn't the one making the decisions, so she views herself merely as the messenger. She hasn't succumb to the "shikata ga nai" mentality, she really just doesn't give a shit about anyone else. |
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Siva said: I never said I want her to be mother of the year. She could be the worst mother in all entertainment history for all I care. The problem is that I can't see her motivations, why she behaves like that. Basically what defines a character.Her mother is a great and best character on her own. Yes she is not the best mother in the world or maybe she doesn't even deserved to be called one either. She did what she could for Ohana but she won't go out of her way to do what she doesn't want to. Ohana is stubborn person and the show is revolve around her but why people still think that she should act like a perfect main character? Tomoe got a nice episode fleshing her character out. I want at least something like that for her mother and grandmother. This show is screaming for a mother-daughter drama. Vinter said: The situations when Ohana was young hasn't realy changed now. She worked her ass off to get both of them through, yet she apparently doesn't care for Ohana.With that first part I was referring to when Ohana was young. The way I see it Satsuki views Ohana as an equal, not as her child. And if Ohana wants to run off into the rain, in Tokyo, at night, then that's her decision, and Satsuki won't stop her. And as it is now Satsuki is just trying to earn money, and she doesn't pretend to care about who she affects in doing that. It's like she's saying: "I just do what I'm told so I get my paycheck, and if I end up hurting others because of that, then it sucks to be them." She isn't the one making the decisions, so she views herself merely as the messenger. She hasn't succumb to the "shikata ga nai" mentality, she really just doesn't give a shit about anyone else. That she sees her daughter as equal is actually something I liked from the beginning. I think that's something not to uncommon for single mums. Yet that doesn't justify her behaviour. Would you treat a friend like that, a family member? Even as an equal you're not that cold. But it would be ok if we at least got some half-assed explanation why she turned out that way. I can only judge from what I saw till now. It's time that they show us what happend between Satsuki and her own mother. |
sakaJun 15, 2011 12:22 AM
| I definitely teared up during the last 5 minutes. Next episode preview looks really good >< |
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| What a wonderful episode. |
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| amazing episode, i cried so much at the end :( she had such a crappy day. |
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| And its back. I fell in love with HanaIro all over again. Splendid. And yes I agree with most of everyone; this is probably the best episode yet of HanaIro, closely followed by the pilot episode. Damn I just loved that Minko/Ohana moment at the end. I'm just wondering how their relationship will end; will it be "your worst enemy might just be your best friend" or "your best friend might just be your worst enemy when Tohru's in the picture anyway" Oh and I just lol'd at the slogans. Its so Ohana-ish. She's probably the only one who can do that; solo protest and stuff. D: Way to go girl. XD As always, looking forward to the next episode. :3 EDIT: I can only perceive the preview as Ohana coming back to Kissuiso because she belongs there, probably a flashback why Tohru and Minko was in Tokyo (and eventually found where Ohana was) or it could possibly be a date? Nah.. I dunno, and that "Ja ne" from Ko to Ohana is something like "Ok.. so you're going back to Kissuiso.. so I guess I still won't be getting an answer from you, but still I'll wait for you." Bleh. I suck at analyzing previews. XD |
RusetteJun 14, 2011 11:03 PM
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| What a fantastic episode! So much emotion and resolve. And made me remember why I love Ohana so much. The building tension at the end, And the way the episode ended were superb. even if my inner fangirl wanted Tohru to do the comfort hugging I'm glad that Minko and Tohru came for Ohana atr the end. Thhe poor girl needed a break. Can't wait for the next episode :3 |
| This IS my favorite anime this season. Animation has been consistently perfect throughout, I like the story and Oha-cchi is just freakin' adorable. |
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| Now this was a very good episode. Felt bad for Ohana. But she is at fault too for not answering to Kou. Well the boy should already get the clue that Ohana wants him to be with her. :/ |
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| I think with this episode HanaIro has become my favorite series of the season. I was really excited last week when the preview showed Satsuki, and she didn't disappoint with her usual "mom of the year" behavior. I hope there are more Ohana-Ko focused episodes coming up. |
| My interest in this show has been cranked up |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
| Great episode, I just have a feeling it's going to get worse between Ko and Ohana before it gets better... |
| Loved this episode! My favorite anime of this season :D looking forward to the next episode but i hope it continues.. |
| i want ohana/toru or ohana/minko lol... for some reason, ko makes me wanna punch him really bad :P |
| For some reason this episode makes me want to cry. Maybe because Ohana ran away from Koichi again. I want them to end up together but now I'm starting to doubt about that. |
| Best episode in weeks; nice change of pace. Really left an impact on me. I hope Ohana will find the courage to tell Ko that she likes him! He really does care about her. :) |
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| satsuki never should have had a daughter. going to try mixing coke with tea now. |
| This anime has almost gotten back up to the level it had in episode one, which may well mean it becomes the second best this season (AnoHana has deservedly moved into first place and is about to end up with a six hanky final episode). I don't think we've finished with Ko yet, because he is an essential part of the problems Ohana needs to resolve. Someone has already said that Ohana is a lot like her mother and I totally agree. Her mother runs away from problems, acts irresponsibly to those who love her, and elevates work and duty above caring for your family and loved ones. Of course grandma also seems a bit lacking in the "display affection" category as well. So for all of you ko/ohana and tooru/ohana shippers out there, it's not going to happen until and unless ohana breaks out of her family's history of messing up relationships--grandmother/mother, mother/daughter in particular. Hell, even Ohana's uncle is engaged in that rather destructive relationship with the bossy management consultant (just as tyrannical as his mother with a tenth of the management ability). At this point Ohana isn't ready to love anyone. And considering just how often she's been betrayed by her mother, can you blame her? The usual trope in anime is for the betrayed child to turn into the tsundere character (remember Taiga in Toradora), Ohana's method of coping is to remain oblivious to the romance and seek approval by working herself to exhaustion (the episode at the inn is very like what she was doing at home before her mother's moonlight flit). One reason that this series is longer is that it's going to take time for Ohana to resolve all this and be ready for the romantic ending (hopefully a lot quicker than Kimi ni Todoke although the resolution at the end of the second season was awesome). This is a very good show and may develop into a great show, but this is a year with KnT, Madoka, and AnoHana so I don't think it will be show of the year. |
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| a nice episode, but god damn do i hate the music in this anime :/ and please excuse my blaspemy (and my spelling?) |
| I thought it started out weird and a little boring but around one quarter to one third of the way in, I was really enjoying it. |
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