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Beave said: Wow!!! The king does not like the Mute Whistles? Unexpected ideology from the Queen indeed. A great episode once again, with quite nice developments. Seems like Erin will have a much more prominent place later on, especially after the next episode, which will probably be just epic. |
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Cortez321 said: I am pretty sure everyone knows, but that gold-eyed guy is certainly a bad guy ya think? now that everyone knows about her that's when everything wills tart moving. easy breeding of beasts using erin's method is probably something the canon attempts to prohibit. well next episode will start what something much greater. |
| Easy breeding is obviously bad for the sole reason that humans will be able to ride beast lords around again like in the past. The group that's trying to overthrow the queen (her nephew?) is obviously going to use this to their advantage if she moves to that city. The queen doesn't seem to know her own people's past history...at least not more then what her own people know. This series just keeps getting better and better. |
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| Such a surprised expression followed by a sly smile (the Queen's nephew) is not something one can easily miss. Not to mention he's starting to threaten Erin :/ However, what Erin is doing could possibly lead to a repeat of the tragedy. I really hope she can figure out a way to prevent that from happening. And FAIL seducing from Damiya. Iaru doesn't look too happy, does he? It's wonderful to raise Oujuu freely. However, some humans will abuse that power. How to prevent that is something very hard to do. I wonder if Her Majesty does know the truth behind Oujuu and Touda. She should have known since she's a direct descendant from the gold-eyed tribe....Is she really as innocent as she look like? Or is she hiding some wisdom? Next episode. Will the Oujuus go berserk? This series is getting better and better once again. |
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| The queen is capricious and stupid. Capricious because she wanted sth that would put many people on the spot and stupid because she barged in to "beast's lair" thinking that nothing can happen to her. I seriously doubt the queen knew about the true history of her ancestors (although she's very old so she would be the most likely person to know it), unless she has Daihmiya's character. Another example of her stupidity was when her nephew obviously blackmailed and threatened Erin and all she said was "forgive him, he just snaps when he sees beautiful woman", lol. It's very possible she didn't hear that part but she should have reacted when he literally molested her and took Erin's hand by force (kill him for that!). Still she's stupid because she can't notice an obvious pattern - when Daihmiya organizes sth for her dangerous things happen but never to him. Since the blame is often put on Duke's followers why is it like that? She's just too stupid (call it naive if you like) to be aware of his behaviour. Also it was obvious to me from the moment I saw him planning to go back by river that he would plan another attack. Didn't think he would use touda though (instead of archers - in the boat the queen would be an easy target unless they hid her and made several boats that had screen so that assassins wouldn't know where to strike) and that was brilliant story development because now Erin can show what she can really do. I was most impressed by Kiriku's attitude though, he didn't spill the beans about Erin and didn't lie to Esal. And even though it was very probable that the prince would eventually find out about her he stayed silent. It is slightly possible that he did tell the prince but he didn't believe or that he didn't tell him because he was afraid he would be ridiculed. I highly doubt it thoug, otherwise I'm sure that the first thing Daimiya would do would be to rush to see Erin for himself. I also hope that Erin won't agree to go to Lazalm no matter what. It would be better if she escaped and freed Lilan, Eku and Aru. Oh, and one more thing. I just love the scene where Ial says Erin's name and vice-versa. As a rule I don't like any romantic situations. Blushing, longing and sighing while saying the name of a lover... Here it is as subtle as it can get, just plain glance at the person of interest and saying his name without special intonation. Superb. All in all this episode was purely awesome. |
| Ugh, the queen was definitely irritating this episode. Dahmiyah kept egging her on too, probably just to be a jerk (in regards to getting close to the Ohju). Then the bastard had to go and threaten/seduce Erin....though I'm of the opinion the seduction was just an attempt to explain away his interest in her. I too am interested in Kiriku's actions/attitude. Who is he actually working for? =\ Awesome ep! Can't wait for the next... |
wakka9ca said: However, what Erin is doing could possibly lead to a repeat of the tragedy. I really hope she can figure out a way to prevent that from happening. 1) And FAIL seducing from Damiya. Iaru doesn't look too happy, does he? It's wonderful to raise Oujuu freely. However, some humans will abuse that power. How to prevent that is something very hard to do. 1) XD, ya |
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| Great episode. But I can't believe that the Queen is so ignorant. She's almost like a child, the way she was looking at her country as though she's been insulated by the court. I guess she's never really stepped foot outside of palace grounds, but what does she do that she has no clue about the history of her kingdom? Is she even aware of the circumstances concerning herself and the country? That said, Erin was foolish to have interjected herself into the situation, and I also feel like Esal should have done more to prevent the Queen from getting closer. Furthermore, I wonder why if the Queen is unaware of the reason behind the Imperatives, why Esal was deemed so special to know. Very interesting developments. I'm starting to get a little worried that the show won't conclude by the end of the year. |
noteDhero said: Furthermore, I wonder why if the Queen is unaware of the reason behind the Imperatives, why Esal was deemed so special to know. Really, only the Mist People are the ones spreading that story, and as you just said a moment ago, we seem to understand that the Queen is sheltered. She probably has never seen any of them except Erin, herself. TBH, it seems like the Queen's position over time was simply played into the politics of the country. Perhaps Je felt too pained to tell her descendants the true reason behind the Imperatives as she wrote them, and preferred them to just live out life simply believing in the legend, much as the people did. It's hard to say right now... I am getting a bit more interested now that the series is picking up. Seems like it took an awful long time to get here, so I hope it doesn't disappoint. |
| Oh wow, the queen doesn't know reason behind the imperatives? She doesn't seem to know much about her country either... |
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| Oh hell, if I was Erin I would let her get splat, but then again she was protecting Lelan and her family by doing so. |
| I thought the narration in the beginning was just describing how captivated the Queen was with the countryside and all the people... but no, she really was looking at everything with childlike eyes. She's such a child herself. Immature, inexperienced, ignorant, and stupid. And clueless. She really was annoying in this episode. Nevertheless, it was a fantastic episode in terms of story development and everything. Ial looked interested in Erin, or at least seemed interested in her safety, so hopefully there's something there... :D Something to look forward to, I mean. Either a friendship or some sort of alliance between them; just a general joining of forces when the times get tough (and I've no doubt they will, before this series is over). I'm dreading finding out what Damiya has up his sleeve, but dying to know as well. Can't wait to see what he and Kilik will try to pull. What are they plotting...? Hmm... |
| The Queen has no common sense, even for her age. |
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| The queen is so clueless and oblivious to everything, specially her own safety... lol@ the prince hitting on Erin. Confucius said: Alzheimer DiseaseThe Queen has no common sense, even for her age. |
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| I'm not surprised that the Queen is just a figurehead. And ugh, I knew Erin would make herself known as soon as Ezal told her to do otherwise... she's just that kind of person. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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| The queen has good intentions but is completely ignorant of her ancestor's history and quite oblivious to the outside world in general. Like the narration said she is like a child. She is sheltered beyond belief. It is no surprise she has no real power. |
| Very interesting words from the Queen! Pretty nice episode, slow but steady! |
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| What the heck was Erin doing standing with the other teachers outside? I thought she was told not to show herself XD The queen's surrounded by yes mans so I'm not surprised she's so ignorant about so many things. I expected her to be smarter though :/ |
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| I knew the queen's visit would be bad news . . . Especially with Damiya now aware of this, I'm sure he is going to try and militarize beast lords, he probably would love to be able to get rid of the Touda. Wouldn't it be ironic when he finds out that is exactly how his ancestors were nearly wiped out. |
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| Boy even the queen is naive. She's the ruler she should know everything about the rules but no...and now we get the assassination attempt next episode. Shit hits the fan next. |
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| Only halfway through the episode, and I couldn't take no more of the stupidity that this show brings. "Stop, don't go any closer, it's dangerous" "It's fine, just a little closer" *Queen listens, and walks closer. Me: Since when the hell was the Queen this damn brainless? All this forced development, which would have been perfectly fine if they weren't lazy with the writing, just so that Erin would come out and show herself in front of everyone, while showing off her skills at taming the beast lords. The writing has been really subpar since the halfway point. The previous episode with the cheesy development for that one random kid, and the info dump episode with the Overseer of the Mist and Erin was also underwhelming. Good lord, the first half was really promising. What happened? *Back to watching the episode. Hopefully I won't die from cringing so much for the rest of the series. |
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| Pretty good, but I kinda agree that the characters were kinda stupid here, especially the queen. At least the suspense is nice. |
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| I agree with one of the comments, a very juuni kokuki vibe here. This was the one thing I could never stand about east asian politics (china, japan). How the hell did so much power or luxury that was never earned sit in the lap of the monarchs? Weak, ignorant, nothing but a well behaved albeit revered doll! Well at the least the Japanese ones knew their place as symbolic and should not bite the hand that feeds them. The Chinese were dangerously spoilt, I wouldn't want to work with them even with the pay. The one thing that always mesmerised me about European history and to some degree Middle Eastern (Ottoman, Persian etc) is the fact the king is willing to step on the battlefield, even get killed (Rodric, Martel[defacto], Harold, Napoleon, Richard, Gustavus). That earned my respect that they are willing to pay the iron price for the power and wealth they have. Rarely can you say the same for Chinese and Japanese emperors, which is why despite what a colossal ass Zhu Di was, his courage and his ambition still earned my respect. |
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| The Queen was impressed with her own country, I guess she really doesn't go out much, being a symbol and all, but that's sad... The Grand Duke was also rubbed the wrong way by not being told about her little trip. Then Esal tries once again to hide Erin, for her own good of course. A bit later Ial gets first to Kazalm so he can inspect it, and he doesn't trust Kiriku, showing he has an eye to judge, and also because he feels like he knows him, but he doesn't know from where, I can't wait for him to recognize the villain. And then Erin and Ial see each other, it was a brief, but cute scene. I wonder if Kyle noticed her. And I just knew things would get out of control when the Queen tried to approach the Beast-Lords too much, it was just a really bad idea that showed how naive she was, and Esal tried to warn her too, but Damiya was like "Lmao, let her see them up close, so if she dies I can get rid of her sooner than expected, and even blame you for it." I can't stand his attitude. But well, of couse Lilan and Eku would get defensive of their child, and Erin just wouldn't let them use the mute whistle on them, so she jumped in to prevent a tragedy, it was necessary because she doesn't want to see them hurt or subjugated like this. And I expected Tomura and Esal to listen to her, but I was impressed that even with the Queen's life on the line the others teachers just stopped and didn't use it either because she asked, she's really respected! But now Erin's existence, and what she's capable of doing, her bond with the Beast-Lords is at last out in the open, I found Damiya's bewilderment funny, but it was nice to see Ial impressed. I mean, everyone was with their jaws dropped open. And then at last we got our confirmation that Damiya is the embodiment of the poison that is eroding the country. Damiya even left a flower just like that one on the table as he went outside, so even a kid would be able to grasp it. I wonder if he was mad at Kiriku for not telling him about Erin, but well, he didn't waste any time into harassing her. But just like she did when it was Kiriku, she stood her ground! It has to be a pain, dealing with Damiya, he's the nephew of the Queen, and if there were no witnesses his word would be the last one. So I'm really glad Ial, Esal, and the Queen saw that facet of his, and that she reprimanded him! But now even the Queen wants to take Erin and her Beast-Lords to Lazal, and I was on the fence at first, Kazalm was her home for a long time now, and she would be far away of Esal, and Tomura, and stuff, but at the same time I think it would be great if she could be closer to Ial, and maybe even become a friend of Seimiya, and why not of the Queen herself! But I don't know, let's see what happens. The Queen seems like a really good lady though! She seems to care enough about the Beast-Lords, disliking the mute whistle and stuff, and I don't know if it's only a facade and she just wants their power even knowing the history behind her country, or if she's oblivious to it and just likes the beasts, and wants the ones in captivity to be as happy as possible. But this was a serious development for sure! Nason might be having a heart attack by now. lol And it even made Erin anxious, but okay, things are going to get even better! |
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| The Duke is really clever with his words She almost died, you know I guess she's too excited to see baby Ouju The Queen is supportive about this no mute whistle But not sure about the people in the capital |
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| That was a close call for Erin, otherwise if the queen was ruthless, she Would've been a goner. Damiya coming onto her was sickening in a way, thank goodness for that Queen's save. The queen seems like a compassionate person, I think it's only the people and past customaries that are hindering her rule. That was a nice episode. |
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| as much as how nice it is that lilan is now a mother, judging from the opening i had assumed that there would be action, fighting, uproars, and erin would be flying the free skies to the areas of conflict with lilan... but with only 12 episodes left, and the issue of eku and owl, i doubt that will happen anymore. what a shame |
| Awwww I can't get over how CUTE Owl is!!! I'm glad that the queen also doesn't like mute whistles. She's always come off as someone who's pretty understanding Damiya and Kiriku are in kahoots with each other. No surprise that the two of them are in it together, they've both been HELLA SKETCH since they first came in. Also when Damiya went outside “because of the alcohol” he put his flower on the table, which looked like the same flower Kiriku received in that package a few episodes ago and I was like “OH SHIT” DAMN LOOKS LIKE NEXT EPISODE O.O |
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| Erin exposed herself and will have more than a couple of eyes on her starting with Damiya, straight asking her to move to the capital of the kingdom, obviously more will try to reach her either for work with more beasts or to teach soldiers, which is even more dangerous. I know Erin loves Lilan, Eku and the baby but for once she would stay back and let them use the whistle. |
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| If Erin was supposed to stay hidden, why was she standing with all the other teachers when the Queen visited the beast-lords? Why didn't they just keep Erin hidden in Esal's office or something? Why didn't the other teachers stop Erin from getting so close to the Queen? Why was Erin allowed to bring her harp along? Why didn't the Queen's attendants stop the Queen from getting closer to Lilan? Was the Queen somehow not aware that it's dangerous to get close? Did she honestly think the beast-lords were docile, and that she would be safe getting close? Does the Queen not have any method of communicating or controlling beast-lords? Did Je not pass down any knowledge for controlling beast-lords through her family line? Is the title of Queen really just in-name only, and there's no known method of controlling beast-lords within the royal circles? I think this episode existed to force Erin and the Queen to meet, as well as getting Damiya interested in Erin, regardless of how clumsy it all was. Seriously, this episode boggles my mind. |
| so far this episode is the only one I find to have a disappointing execution. |
| I was a big ball of stress for most of this episode lol. Got so mad at Kiriku when it was officially proven that Damiya is his master. Also, it definitely feels like Damiya is actively putting the Queen in danger of death. Other than that, I think the purpose of this episode was to really lock into place the extent of the Queen’s naivete. I liked the line of her having the eyes of a child. She’s like a child in so many ways in her lack of understanding. I love the dichotomy there, of how she perceives the world vs her motherly way of speaking and commanding attention. Just works well. This next ep should be wild.... |
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