Code Geass Hangyaku no Lelouch Episode 12 Discussion

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Oct 28, 2019 11:22 PM

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SaiDxvLight

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The last scene ruined the episode for me I mean can you believe that bitch kiss the person who kill her father

Nov 30, 2019 12:21 PM

#202

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I'm intrigued by Nina. I want to see more of her story now. Her scene was very well done, didn't see it coming. So far so good, I like this anime so far. Starting too wish I didn't wait this long to see it.

May 1, 2020 6:31 PM

#203

maiawatchesanime

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who was cc talking to??

and what the hell was nina doing in the dark in that room?? what the heck??? she's so unnecessary and that scene was unnecessary and what even??

poor shirley! but what a situation to finally get it on. and with the guy you're blaming for your father's death. awkward

May 1, 2020 6:31 PM

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May 5, 2020 8:28 PM

#205

testamentKAISER

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Go Shirley. Hehehe

Jul 1, 2020 12:03 AM

#206

Indochina

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Do you guys think Nunnally's heightened sense of smell allowed her to detect the scent of Nina's cum-filled underwear.

Aug 3, 2020 5:53 AM

#207

SomeGuyWithHair

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A really surprising episode. Lelouch revealed his identity to someone and that kiss, or was it a kiss. What was Shirley's dad even doing on the mountain? Why was he there? It's kinda messed up and sad that you're in love with someone who killed your father, and not knowing his full identity. I wanna see what she'll do when she finds out he's Zero.

As if the most repulsive character couldn't get more repulsive, she exceeded my expectations. Not only are you racist towards Japanese but you're weird as well. Masturbating to someone that's not even the opposite sex, that's disgusting DansGame.

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Aug 17, 2020 3:58 PM

#208

Magicmist

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Nina's really really attracted to the princess it seems.

Lelouch is regaining allies from the past it seems.

Shirley didn't deserve that. Might have Lelouch readjust his plans and the number of casualties.

Sep 15, 2020 8:45 PM

#209

Zlyiond

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Nina is a bi. Caught fapping to dem tiddies.

Nov 5, 2020 12:35 PM

#210

Skirroz98_NL

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Since episode 11 it became so much better! The feels in this one!

Dec 22, 2020 11:23 PM

#211

PlainNee

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What the hell is with that scene table humping scene? Is it going that going to be the start of a subplot or smth?

Jan 24, 2021 5:02 PM

#212

HoodKublaiKhan

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Lelouch is 100% the good guy. Hope he doesn't stop

Jan 30, 2021 5:55 PM

#213

kUshPandA_ENJOi

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It’s been some time but if anyone is still having doubts about what Nina does. Take a peek at the corner of the table she’s by.

Is it dry ;)

Feels like losing all five senses &
Maybe not able to have thoughts,

Enjoi...

Feb 11, 2021 9:38 PM

#214

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I hate Tamaki for asking Zero to remove his mask just because he is stupid at spending money.
Much weirdness this episode.

Nina does *something* while looking at Euphemia's pictures. Surprised me first time I watched it.

C.C. talks to herself again.

And well Shirley's dad dies and she kisses Lelouch at end of episode.

This has gotten to NGE levels of messed up relationship now.

Confessing your love shouldn't be this complicated. Not like this.
:(

Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate.

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Mar 12, 2021 11:56 AM

#215

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at first I thought she just had a rash or something. I didnt think she was releasing her stress

Jun 7, 2021 3:24 PM

#216

Amatniki

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Nina is so annoying. Fucking stupid lesbian

Jun 26, 2021 2:24 PM

#217

SideCharacterKal

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''Help me Lelouch'' a kiss? Bruh.. Well aight. Lelouch killed her father. Seems like he wants to stop being ''Zero'' because he killed her father. Expected better from him but he's still a goat.

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Jul 15, 2021 3:30 AM

#218

wizardev

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the ending and the episode is wow

Sep 17, 2021 8:38 PM

#219

Jamk_

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It must be tough he didn’t mean to kill the dad but this is a small price to pay for salvation he can’t stop what he’s doing because of one very sad mistake he’s gotta se it though

Oct 6, 2021 2:54 AM

#220

Kaiseki

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Bro... WTF, Turns out Lelouch killed Shirley's father, looks like Lelouch didn't expect that either.

Nov 5, 2021 9:14 AM

#221

Nurguburu

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Lelouch killed Shirley's dad, what an asshole.

Also, wtf that random masturbation scene with the table LOL.

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Nov 8, 2021 11:55 PM

#222

GoyaNoMachiawase

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Nina humping the corner of the table I couldn’t help but laugh. How can lulu kiss Shirley after he just killed her dad? My man been watching too many Sigma grind videos…

Feb 22, 2022 7:30 AM

#223

Figva

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Zero went kinda brutal here with those killings specially Shirly's father , can't be helped since they are part of his own ambitions,

Mar 30, 2022 4:58 PM

#224

pickyotaku

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nice episode, nina is so horny lmao... i was speechless at that masturbation scene. C.C saves the day again. Lelouch is a genius to be honest.

Apr 2, 2022 5:25 AM

#225

makiyusuke

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I actually thought Zero was gonna show his face. I kinda want Kallen to know who he is.
That masturbation scene tho o-o

Jun 15, 2022 9:42 AM

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I think it was time something bad happened to shirley. I mean, no one deserves that I guess, but she was too nothing for lelouch, I still don't see him being interested in her, bc he accepted the kiss just bc of the shock I guess. I like that development, he's facing some direct consequences to his "the end justifies the means" mindset.

And yes nina is super annoying, like, being so racist that you cry about it is not cute girl.

Jun 24, 2022 6:47 PM

#227

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so many questions ,, so many plotholes

1. How did the black cop lady get Lelouch picture ?

2. How did Shirley father die? was it by avalanche ?

3. How did Lelouch know to ambush the old guy , and have C2 pose as a double

4. What was Nina doing in that dark room ?????

The heck are all these unanswered questions in this one episode ???

Jul 4, 2022 2:24 AM

#228

Scordolo

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How is this episode controversial again? Unless someone points it out, there's no way you'd know there's a masturbation scene in this episode. I knew there was going to be one but I didn't even notice.

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Jul 5, 2022 10:57 PM

#229

SaffRox7650

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I did it, I made it to THAT scene had to triple take it... wtf lmaoooo

May 3, 2023 2:49 AM

#230

Punkerror

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I have so many question about this ep hm

May 19, 2023 11:29 AM

#231

almightybismarck

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I wonder what type of figure her father was. It's a tragedy but it can't be helped.

Aug 22, 2023 7:21 PM

#232

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Uuufff la verdad cuando comencé a ver este anime no le preste mucha atención pero cada capitulo que pasa se pone mejor. El final fue fuerte pensar que el padre de Shirley murió en la batalla de Narita de seguro afectará a Lelouch.

Nov 22, 2023 7:45 PM

#233

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rip table kun gotta love how the one lesbian character is made the least relatable cause they went ahead and made her racist and a damn freak xd

Feb 10, 9:17 AM

#234

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Reading Code Geass threads reminds me this forum is populated by people with zero comprehension skills. But to humour the dumbass questions below:

so many questions ,, so many plotholes

1. How did the black cop lady get Lelouch picture ?

2. How did Shirley father die? was it by avalanche ?

3. How did Lelouch know to ambush the old guy , and have C2 pose as a double

4. What was Nina doing in that dark room ?????

The heck are all these unanswered questions in this one episode ???

None of these are plot holes.

1. The lady was holding Shirley's wallet, and Lelouch's photo fell out.

2. There was literally an avalanch during the battle of Narita, where a bunch of Brittania soldiers got killed. I.e - Shirley's father.

3. We're 12 episodes into a show depicting a protagonist who thinks two steps ahead. He knew who he was going to see. He knew they would demand to know his identity. He knew CC is practically immortal and could withstand an ambush if they opened fire.

4. She was jerking off to a photo of the princess.

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May 11, 9:07 AM

#235

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Easy deal after Lelouch show his face to Kitahara. That girl who kiss Lelouch while she is sad her father died, what's her point to do that. Also that masturbation, damn pro.

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Nov 18, 2:55 PM

#236

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Despite the plot holes further cementing themselves the little extra world building lore we get here and there is interesting just a shame we don't get the full history lessons and only snippets (even if they'd be full of biased misinformation.) Elizabeth the 3rd gives us an interesting time frame though and it's kind of like I thought the empire established in "current times" or in the future. That said it's still quite ludicrous, in particular because of the lack of population. Which they do I guess also kind of address here as a reason for them being unable to fully suppress the rebellion. Green Hair/Closed Captions conversations with herself or rather well presumably someone else seem to be getting more interesting, I'd obviously noticed before but nothing too interesting was being said.
Clearly the other voice was implying she liked Lulu, which suggest this other voice is a "person." YO WTF did they just animate Nina masturbating and climaxing to the younger princess, damn didn't expect that, that was so out of the blue and the music downright creepy/sad, so it was either that or she was having a stork or some shit XD but I doubt that. Initially I thought it was drugs or something, but connecting it to her obsession over the princess, clearly being in love with her and especially the movements towards the end and the fairly visible climax there's almost no way it's anything else, also her skirt being on the table and her wiping it down. Just thinking about how the hell they are gonna make this a plot point. She's clearly a side character that's gonna be problematic or even low-key an antagonist or villain at some point, I'm just wondering how they are gonna do that.
Glad to see the softer side of the MC though with his sister. I hope he uses CC as a decoy as well in order to go on the date.
Yes, glad he thought of doing that and using her as a decoy, just hope he will also go on the date.
OH damn, he double f$cked up. First I thought he faked his own death or something but that was supposed to be her dad, I didn't get why she was holding a picture of the MC, but it was just from her wallet it had nothing to do with the scene overall apart from establishing that she now "has seen" a picture of him and might recognize him at some point. Anyway so 1 he left her in the rain and arrived late without telling her before hand he'd be late. And on top of that he killed her dad, which tbf is kind of guilt tripping because if her dad was in the military (which it seemed like) then his dad was following orders to attack a group of rebels thus accepting the possibility of death, it's a bit odd to hold negative feelings over that towards the opposing army. "Well you should have just let them kill you" doesn't make a lot of sense.
Also damn, didn't expect the landslide to actually suffocate people after all they were in giant mechs you'd think they'd be fine for at least a pretty long while.
I think his reaction was the correct one overall, still that's gonna mess him up inside and it's gonna mess up their relationship whenever she finds out he's Zero. Even though personally I think it should mess it up. Cuz again... it's war or essentially war at least, and regardless of her father's personality and her saying he was "gentle" he was clearly not on the "weak side" and he can't seriously be that gentle if he's willing to just gun down anyone including civilians like most people in the Britannia military.
Obviously I could be wrong and he might not be one of them in which case "my bad" but if I remember correctly all of the britannia forces were military guys in mechs only Zero's troops had people outside of mechs. The people that were hit by the landslide were from both sides the rebellion army and the Empire. Either way if my country attacked a rebel group or another country and my father died as a military I'm not gonna be angry or hold a grudge against the people who did it because that makes no sense. If anything I'd be angry at whoever is the root cause of the war which in this case is defenitly Britannia because of the way they treat the country and the people of the country they took over.
Of course I know it's emotional and not everyone can redirect their emotions rationally toward the appropriate target but still, it's a little frustrating knowing that this is gonna be a big problem at some point even though I don't think it's that justified and I certainly think the way she's reacting is hopefully just emotional and not her actual rational thought because it's very naive to simply ask "oh if the freedom fighters are fighting for the weak why do they kill" well obviously the have to, because otherwise they'll be killed by frankly "lackies/pawns" like her dad.
I liked that he met the old man he already knew though and showed him his face. (He's obviously not gonna show the rest willingly because it'll only create trouble, especially if you consider now that Bee Killer girl dislikes Lulu but like Zero, like how now probably his love interest will dislike Zero but like Lulu which is obviously gonna be a plot point, just like the several other plot points they set up or build further upon this episode like his best friend building up to be "the other side of the same coin" they both lost a parent to the war and are now both fighting for technically "the opposite side".
But the last part of the episode was a good twist and ending overall I just don't really like it subjectively even if I know it's good.

Me_MarioNov 18, 3:27 PM

Nov 18, 3:04 PM

#237

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Reply to SaiDxvLight

The last scene ruined the episode for me I mean can you believe that bitch kiss the person who kill her father

@SaiDxvLight Bro what? (I know I'm replying to a 5 year old post but...) L take, for one she obviously didn't know she's just seeking comfort so I think his general stunned reaction but not rejecting her makes sense here because rejecting her would be very non-compassionate. Secondly that's a little irrational. It's war, equally her father could have killed him instead.
It would be a bit weird to blame either of the two. Emotionally sure, but rationally that doesn't make much sense.
If my father worked in the military and died I'm sorry but "it is what it is" I'm not gonna hold anyone personally accountable or have a grudge.
Apart from maybe anger direct toward the reason for the war itself but not for the people in the war.

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