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the witches are supposed to be people who created the Gundams I believe. they test their Gundams with pilots (and the pilots die most of the time) and prospera being from mercury and developing Gundams would be the witch from mercury

Jul 26, 2023 7:19 AM

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The witch was the friends and the mercury was the ones we made along the way

Jul 26, 2023 7:23 AM

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sayu-simp said:
the witches are supposed to be people who created the Gundams I believe. they test their Gundams with pilots (and the pilots die most of the time) and prospera being from mercury and developing Gundams would be the witch from mercury

I think witches are the developers and pilots, as the episode The Witches from Earth is clearly referring to Sophie and Norea. Suletta is the witch from Mercury, hence the name of the series

Jul 26, 2023 7:28 AM

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sayu-simp said:
the witches are supposed to be people who created the Gundams I believe. they test their Gundams with pilots (and the pilots die most of the time) and prospera being from mercury and developing Gundams would be the witch from mercury

I think witches are the developers and pilots, as the episode The Witches from Earth is clearly referring to Sophie and Norea. Suletta is the witch from Mercury, hence the name of the series

probably , the show was poorly written and paced tbh

Jul 26, 2023 7:32 AM

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sayu-simp said:

Fail_Man_X said:

I think witches are the developers and pilots, as the episode The Witches from Earth is clearly referring to Sophie and Norea. Suletta is the witch from Mercury, hence the name of the series

probably , the show was poorly written and paced tbh

Tbh, it was written and paced well enough for you to have not missed that :/

Jul 26, 2023 7:40 AM

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sayu-simp said:

probably , the show was poorly written and paced tbh

Tbh, it was written and paced well enough for you to have not missed that :/

well no, they never put emphasis on what the witches were. sure they mentioned it but it was something of little significance that you'd forget really soon. they never explained what a witch was, only named a few. for a show called witch from mercury we didn't get much explanation

Jul 26, 2023 8:22 AM

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Tbh, it was written and paced well enough for you to have not missed that :/

well no, they never put emphasis on what the witches were. sure they mentioned it but it was something of little significance that you'd forget really soon. they never explained what a witch was, only named a few. for a show called witch from mercury we didn't get much explanation

Witch is just a term used to refer to anyone associated with Gundams. That includes Suletta, who is from Mercury, hence the name of the show. It's not something that requires an explanation. You should have been able to infer that just by watching the show, and it's not the show's fault you didn't

Jul 26, 2023 8:30 AM

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well no, they never put emphasis on what the witches were. sure they mentioned it but it was something of little significance that you'd forget really soon. they never explained what a witch was, only named a few. for a show called witch from mercury we didn't get much explanation

Witch is just a term used to refer to anyone associated with Gundams. That includes Suletta, who is from Mercury, hence the name of the show. It's not something that requires an explanation. You should have been able to infer that just by watching the show, and it's not the show's fault you didn't

I could indeed infer that witches were something to do with people involved in Gundams as I mentioned in earlier messages, my message criticising the pacing and writing of the show was more of a general thing and not just because of the poor explanation of what a witch was: the only mention of Norea and Sophie being a witch was (correct me if I'm wrong) the title of an episode, but other than that no pilots ever get called a witch, only the people producing/developing them: Gundam Inc, prospera etc etc. people like sulletta and Eran don't get individually called out for being witches hence why I believed only the people developing them are witches. I don't know how you expect people to infer what exactly a witch was when the show doesn't mention them much, all we get is racism between earthians and spacians. people's inability to figure out what a witch has nothing to do with them but the show being unclear about it. this is the show and not us as viewers. I just don't see sufficient evidence to be able to figure out what a witch is without nitpicking it.

Jul 26, 2023 9:06 AM

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sayu-simp said:
the witches are supposed to be people who created the Gundams I believe. they test their Gundams with pilots (and the pilots die most of the time) and prospera being from mercury and developing Gundams would be the witch from mercury

I think witches are the developers and pilots, as the episode The Witches from Earth is clearly referring to Sophie and Norea. Suletta is the witch from Mercury, hence the name of the series

But even Lauda, a literal nobody was able to pilot a Gundam. He was not enhanced in anyway.

Jul 26, 2023 9:11 AM

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Witch is just a term used to refer to anyone associated with Gundams. That includes Suletta, who is from Mercury, hence the name of the show. It's not something that requires an explanation. You should have been able to infer that just by watching the show, and it's not the show's fault you didn't

I could indeed infer that witches were something to do with people involved in Gundams as I mentioned in earlier messages, my message criticising the pacing and writing of the show was more of a general thing and not just because of the poor explanation of what a witch was: the only mention of Norea and Sophie being a witch was (correct me if I'm wrong) the title of an episode, but other than that no pilots ever get called a witch, only the people producing/developing them: Gundam Inc, prospera etc etc. people like sulletta and Eran don't get individually called out for being witches hence why I believed only the people developing them are witches. I don't know how you expect people to infer what exactly a witch was when the show doesn't mention them much, all we get is racism between earthians and spacians. people's inability to figure out what a witch has nothing to do with them but the show being unclear about it. this is the show and not us as viewers. I just don't see sufficient evidence to be able to figure out what a witch is without nitpicking it.

Technically, there isn't anything to explain. "Witch" is just a term used to disparage "others" as a justification for prosecution. In that sense, it makes sense that Suletta would be referred to as a witch, but Elan would not, given their social standings. However, considering that interpretation relies on real world knowledge on the history of witches, I wouldn't expect someone to be able to make that analysis, even if the prologue was just one big witch hunt, and the term isn't uncommon. So for the Vanadis Institute to be referred to as witches without any real explanation? Yeah, it tracks, but it also provides more than enough conclude that witches are people that are related to Gundams.

Jul 26, 2023 9:59 AM

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Fail_Man_X said:

I think witches are the developers and pilots, as the episode The Witches from Earth is clearly referring to Sophie and Norea. Suletta is the witch from Mercury, hence the name of the series

But even Lauda, a literal nobody was able to pilot a Gundam. He was not enhanced in anyway.

who mentioned anything to do with enhancement? Norea and Sophie weren't enhanced?

Jul 26, 2023 10:00 AM

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I could indeed infer that witches were something to do with people involved in Gundams as I mentioned in earlier messages, my message criticising the pacing and writing of the show was more of a general thing and not just because of the poor explanation of what a witch was: the only mention of Norea and Sophie being a witch was (correct me if I'm wrong) the title of an episode, but other than that no pilots ever get called a witch, only the people producing/developing them: Gundam Inc, prospera etc etc. people like sulletta and Eran don't get individually called out for being witches hence why I believed only the people developing them are witches. I don't know how you expect people to infer what exactly a witch was when the show doesn't mention them much, all we get is racism between earthians and spacians. people's inability to figure out what a witch has nothing to do with them but the show being unclear about it. this is the show and not us as viewers. I just don't see sufficient evidence to be able to figure out what a witch is without nitpicking it.

Technically, there isn't anything to explain. "Witch" is just a term used to disparage "others" as a justification for prosecution. In that sense, it makes sense that Suletta would be referred to as a witch, but Elan would not, given their social standings. However, considering that interpretation relies on real world knowledge on the history of witches, I wouldn't expect someone to be able to make that analysis, even if the prologue was just one big witch hunt, and the term isn't uncommon. So for the Vanadis Institute to be referred to as witches without any real explanation? Yeah, it tracks, but it also provides more than enough conclude that witches are people that are related to Gundams.

I agree with everything you've said, but I just wouldn't be able to figure out what exactly what a witch was. i could infer that they were somehow related to Gundams but there were too many contradicting factors that bamboozled my monkey brain. anyhow, have a great day!

Jul 26, 2023 10:03 AM

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mechian said:

But even Lauda, a literal nobody was able to pilot a Gundam. He was not enhanced in anyway.

who mentioned anything to do with enhancement? Norea and Sophie weren't enhanced?

So what makes Norea and Sophie "Witches" but enhanced human EL4N and EL5N are not "Witches"?

Jul 26, 2023 10:05 AM

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sayu-simp said:

I could indeed infer that witches were something to do with people involved in Gundams as I mentioned in earlier messages, my message criticising the pacing and writing of the show was more of a general thing and not just because of the poor explanation of what a witch was: the only mention of Norea and Sophie being a witch was (correct me if I'm wrong) the title of an episode, but other than that no pilots ever get called a witch, only the people producing/developing them: Gundam Inc, prospera etc etc. people like sulletta and Eran don't get individually called out for being witches hence why I believed only the people developing them are witches. I don't know how you expect people to infer what exactly a witch was when the show doesn't mention them much, all we get is racism between earthians and spacians. people's inability to figure out what a witch has nothing to do with them but the show being unclear about it. this is the show and not us as viewers. I just don't see sufficient evidence to be able to figure out what a witch is without nitpicking it.

Technically, there isn't anything to explain. "Witch" is just a term used to disparage "others" as a justification for prosecution. In that sense, it makes sense that Suletta would be referred to as a witch, but Elan would not, given their social standings. However, considering that interpretation relies on real world knowledge on the history of witches, I wouldn't expect someone to be able to make that analysis, even if the prologue was just one big witch hunt, and the term isn't uncommon. So for the Vanadis Institute to be referred to as witches without any real explanation? Yeah, it tracks, but it also provides more than enough conclude that witches are people that are related to Gundams.

So what you're saying is a "Witch" in this show is just a way of saying "low-born" or "commoner". That would explain why rich kids ELAN and LAUDA are not considered witches despite piloting Gundams.

It's a caste system.

Jul 26, 2023 10:07 AM

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mechian said:

sayu-simp said:

who mentioned anything to do with enhancement? Norea and Sophie weren't enhanced?

So what makes Norea and Sophie "Witches" but enhanced human EL4N and EL5N are not "Witches"?

great question, sadly I cannot answer that but give you my perspective: I believe that since elan only used the gundam to show the world that Ariel was in fact a gundam and it was only a one time thing (I don't think he used the permit scores nor did he inflict harm on anyone else) so he was let off the hook. however Sophie and Norea used their Gundams to wreck havoc and killed people .

Jul 26, 2023 10:08 AM

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sayu-simp said:
the witches are supposed to be people who created the Gundams I believe. they test their Gundams with pilots (and the pilots die most of the time) and prospera being from mercury and developing Gundams would be the witch from mercury

I think witches are the developers and pilots, as the episode The Witches from Earth is clearly referring to Sophie and Norea. Suletta is the witch from Mercury, hence the name of the series

probably , the show was poorly written and paced tbh

Tbh, it was written and paced well enough for you to have not missed that :/

well no, they never put emphasis on what the witches were. sure they mentioned it but it was something of little significance that you'd forget really soon. they never explained what a witch was, only named a few. for a show called witch from mercury we didn't get much explanation

Witch is just a term used to refer to anyone associated with Gundams. That includes Suletta, who is from Mercury, hence the name of the show. It's not something that requires an explanation. You should have been able to infer that just by watching the show, and it's not the show's fault you didn't

I could indeed infer that witches were something to do with people involved in Gundams as I mentioned in earlier messages, my message criticising the pacing and writing of the show was more of a general thing and not just because of the poor explanation of what a witch was: the only mention of Norea and Sophie being a witch was (correct me if I'm wrong) the title of an episode, but other than that no pilots ever get called a witch, only the people producing/developing them: Gundam Inc, prospera etc etc. people like sulletta and Eran don't get individually called out for being witches hence why I believed only the people developing them are witches. I don't know how you expect people to infer what exactly a witch was when the show doesn't mention them much, all we get is racism between earthians and spacians. people's inability to figure out what a witch has nothing to do with them but the show being unclear about it. this is the show and not us as viewers. I just don't see sufficient evidence to be able to figure out what a witch is without nitpicking it.

Technically, there isn't anything to explain. "Witch" is just a term used to disparage "others" as a justification for prosecution. In that sense, it makes sense that Suletta would be referred to as a witch, but Elan would not, given their social standings. However, considering that interpretation relies on real world knowledge on the history of witches, I wouldn't expect someone to be able to make that analysis, even if the prologue was just one big witch hunt, and the term isn't uncommon. So for the Vanadis Institute to be referred to as witches without any real explanation? Yeah, it tracks, but it also provides more than enough conclude that witches are people that are related to Gundams.

So what you're saying is a "Witch" in this show is just a way of saying "low-born" or "commoner". That would explain why rich kids ELAN and LAUDA are not considered witches despite piloting Gundams.

It's a caste system.

the show had common themes of racism between spacians and earthians, I wouldn't be surprised.

Jul 26, 2023 12:09 PM

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mechian said:

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sayu-simp said:

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Fail_Man_X said:

sayu-simp said:
the witches are supposed to be people who created the Gundams I believe. they test their Gundams with pilots (and the pilots die most of the time) and prospera being from mercury and developing Gundams would be the witch from mercury

I think witches are the developers and pilots, as the episode The Witches from Earth is clearly referring to Sophie and Norea. Suletta is the witch from Mercury, hence the name of the series

probably , the show was poorly written and paced tbh

Tbh, it was written and paced well enough for you to have not missed that :/

well no, they never put emphasis on what the witches were. sure they mentioned it but it was something of little significance that you'd forget really soon. they never explained what a witch was, only named a few. for a show called witch from mercury we didn't get much explanation

Witch is just a term used to refer to anyone associated with Gundams. That includes Suletta, who is from Mercury, hence the name of the show. It's not something that requires an explanation. You should have been able to infer that just by watching the show, and it's not the show's fault you didn't

I could indeed infer that witches were something to do with people involved in Gundams as I mentioned in earlier messages, my message criticising the pacing and writing of the show was more of a general thing and not just because of the poor explanation of what a witch was: the only mention of Norea and Sophie being a witch was (correct me if I'm wrong) the title of an episode, but other than that no pilots ever get called a witch, only the people producing/developing them: Gundam Inc, prospera etc etc. people like sulletta and Eran don't get individually called out for being witches hence why I believed only the people developing them are witches. I don't know how you expect people to infer what exactly a witch was when the show doesn't mention them much, all we get is racism between earthians and spacians. people's inability to figure out what a witch has nothing to do with them but the show being unclear about it. this is the show and not us as viewers. I just don't see sufficient evidence to be able to figure out what a witch is without nitpicking it.

Technically, there isn't anything to explain. "Witch" is just a term used to disparage "others" as a justification for prosecution. In that sense, it makes sense that Suletta would be referred to as a witch, but Elan would not, given their social standings. However, considering that interpretation relies on real world knowledge on the history of witches, I wouldn't expect someone to be able to make that analysis, even if the prologue was just one big witch hunt, and the term isn't uncommon. So for the Vanadis Institute to be referred to as witches without any real explanation? Yeah, it tracks, but it also provides more than enough conclude that witches are people that are related to Gundams.

So what you're saying is a "Witch" in this show is just a way of saying "low-born" or "commoner". That would explain why rich kids ELAN and LAUDA are not considered witches despite piloting Gundams.

It's a caste system.

Not exactly, but that is part of it. If you think back al the way to episode 2 of season 1, where Aerial is accused of being a Gundam, and Prospera provides evidence refuting the claim, Delling ultimately rules that Aerial is a Gundam because he says so. It's the same thing. The Benerit Group labeled the Vanadis Institute as witches under the pretense that their research into Gundams was too dangerous. However, when the people doing that research (Peil Technologies) are part of the "in group", they aren't labeled as witches.

Jul 26, 2023 7:28 PM

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Witches were people associated with the Gundams, more or less Gundam pilots.

Jul 27, 2023 12:54 PM

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From what I gathered, witches were just augmented humans aka the cyber new types for this show.

You want to throw down?

Jul 28, 2023 1:14 AM

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