Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Personal opinion not objective truth Then the hater's reason of hating Slaine because he is the villain is the most subjective fact ever. Judging a character's worth by view of morality is the least qualified way because everyone's pov on it is different. Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Personal opinion not objective truth Then the hater's reason of hating Slaine because he is the villain is the most subjective fact ever. Judging a character's worth by view of morality is the least qualified way because everyone's pov on it is different. LOL you thi9nk I hate him because he's a villain. No I hate him because he's a shitty villain AND a caricature of a character. A cosmic joke |
Darklight0303 said: LOL you thi9nk I hate him because he's a villain. No I hate him because he's a shitty villain AND a caricature of a character. A cosmic joke This is interesting. What are your feelings on other characters you like or dislike and why? I like Slaine because I feel he is the one character that's not a caricature of a character and actually is relevant to the plot . Screw it, he CARRIES the plot. I feel like Inaho is Shiba Tatsuya 2.0 and that bugs me. However, Slaine's characterization is nothing I haven't seen before and executed better elsewhere. Seriously, who do you like and why? |
| He is hands down the most interesting and developed character. His story is in service to the plot and his success drives Inaho fanboys mad as hell, which makes this show all the more enjoyable when they are proven wrong time and again. |
faderunnerMar 25, 2015 9:17 PM
| Slaine for me has been the most interesting character and the one I was rooting for since the beginning. And what's more, I could actually sympathize with the guy and understand his emotions (Well, everything except for saving Saazbaum who ended up shooting the princess) I grew frustrated with Inaho (and basically all the other characters from earth) very quickly, I felt nothing for this emotionless character and only started disliking him more every time he owned all his enemies with such ease.... Kept watching the show because of the Martians who are actually interesting, have to resist skipping the parts with Inaho |
MetaKite said: Comparing Inaho and Tatsuya is like comparing a Carcano M1891/38 with a Barrett XM500. There're so few similar things between both caracters, like their lack of social skills and their silent demeanor. We cannot compare their brains(analitic skills, creative skills, and so on) because Tatsuya is far superior, even after Inaho got the new eye.Darklight0303 said: LOL you thi9nk I hate him because he's a villain. No I hate him because he's a shitty villain AND a caricature of a character. A cosmic joke This is interesting. What are your feelings on other characters you like or dislike and why? I like Slaine because I feel he is the one character that's not a caricature of a character and actually is relevant to the plot . Screw it, he CARRIES the plot. I feel like Inaho is Shiba Tatsuya 2.0 and that bugs me. However, Slaine's characterization is nothing I haven't seen before and executed better elsewhere. Seriously, who do you like and why? Saying Inaho is Tatsuya 2.0 means the former is an improved version of that Tatsuya guy, which is a laughable statement. If that would be true Inaho would have Asseylum but he was NTR'ed. I have yet to watch Tatsuya losing a fight and he doesn't need to rely on others to win his fights; in other hand we have Inaho, whose plans needs his friends help(or support from Deucalion) to be able to achieve victory. I like Inaho as character, and if he would be Tatsuya 2.0 I'd not like it at all(just as I don't like Tatsuya). I don't see how both could have a fair comparison, because Tatsuya can do everything and everything he does is flawless. That's why I like him, he has demonstrated he isn't perfect(not sure why people deliberately ignore this) and he has being progressing as the series goes(while being subtle, too subtle for the taste of most people). Since every series needs a protagonist, I'm happy we don't have one who excels at everything or a perverted one or a whiny one. |
Jakerams said: Slaine isn't even a villain he's the same person he was from day 1. Except unlike Inahobot Slaine does have to have some real struggle. And unlike Asshime Slaine is actually a good ruler. A good ruler. No the role he'd be more suited is court jester. |
Darklight0303 said: LOL you thi9nk I hate him because he's a villain. No I hate him because he's a shitty villain AND a caricature of a character. A cosmic joke He's definitely an antagonist to Inaho, but the show isn't making him into an evil villain. You hate him because of his morals and it's not even hard to see. That's fine, but to say that he's a shitty character in a show with Inaho and Asseylum is too hard to take seriously. Slaine Troyard carries this show so hard that it's hilarious. Without him, there is absolutely no conflict. Asseylum ends the war, marries Inaho, then gg. Slaine is keeping things dynamic and making things bearable for people that are fans of complex stories. He may be an idiot, a coward, a misguided maniac, but he is what Aldnoah Zero is. The rise and fall of Slaine is why everyone is watching, because Inaho's role in the story is to stop Slaine. I understand calling this show a complex tale is a crime, but Slaine is trying his best to keep things interesting IMO. |
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| Why does anyone still make the mistake of engaging Darklight0303? The dude is impervious to logic and reasoning. |
kymano said: Man where does the Inaho hating come from? Its clear to see that writers have butchered this character from being very promising to flatline boring mecha filler.While i do say Slaine carries the plot(since its Vers' storyline) Inaho,Slaine and *cough* Asseylum are the 3 main characters of the show. Though it seems Slaine and Asseylum treat Inaho as irrelevant noticing neither Slaine nor Asseylum mentions Inaho out of free will other than when they encountered Inaho or any resemblance to Inaho.On the hand Inaho have mentioned Slaine and Asseylum. On a clear note i fail to see Slaine and Inaho as nemesis since it is always Inaho who brings up Slaine and not vice-versa. Some of the Inaho hate came from the first season where he shot Slaine and left him hanging. A lot of Slaine fans were upset with that and there's this war going on in the fandom between Team Slaine vs Team Inaho. No one can agree to disagree because everyone wants to be right. They'll try to come up with deep philosophical analyses for Slaine's character which is a nice change of perspective I'll admit. The fandom really doesn't know when to stop dissing the characters it's getting too ridiculous at this point. Examples: Most common argument that Slaine is a bad character is that he ruins everything and he's too emotional. Most common argument that Inaho is a bad character is that he's a Gary-Stu and he's too emotionless. Most common argument that Asseylum is a bad character is that she's useless and does nothing for the plot. |
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blackbishop said: MetaKite said: Comparing Inaho and Tatsuya is like comparing a Carcano M1891/38 with a Barrett XM500. There're so few similar things between both caracters, like their lack of social skills and their silent demeanor. We cannot compare their brains(analitic skills, creative skills, and so on) because Tatsuya is far superior, even after Inaho got the new eye.This is interesting. What are your feelings on other characters you like or dislike and why? I like Slaine because I feel he is the one character that's not a caricature of a character and actually is relevant to the plot . Screw it, he CARRIES the plot. I feel like Inaho is Shiba Tatsuya 2.0 and that bugs me. However, Slaine's characterization is nothing I haven't seen before and executed better elsewhere. Seriously, who do you like and why? Saying Inaho is Tatsuya 2.0 means the former is an improved version of that Tatsuya guy, which is a laughable statement. If that would be true Inaho would have Asseylum but he was NTR'ed. I have yet to watch Tatsuya losing a fight and he doesn't need to rely on others to win his fights; in other hand we have Inaho, whose plans needs his friends help(or support from Deucalion) to be able to achieve victory. I like Inaho as character, and if he would be Tatsuya 2.0 I'd not like it at all(just as I don't like Tatsuya). I don't see how both could have a fair comparison, because Tatsuya can do everything and everything he does is flawless. That's why I like him, he has demonstrated he isn't perfect(not sure why people deliberately ignore this) and he has being progressing as the series goes(while being subtle, too subtle for the taste of most people). Since every series needs a protagonist, I'm happy we don't have one who excels at everything or a perverted one or a whiny one. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to imply Inaho was an improvement. My mistake. Just yet another version of a protagonist that always saves the day. I'm talking in a general sense and really don't care to analyze both down to specific details as neither interest me that much. Just know I can't stand Tatsuya and Inaho's winning streak reminded me of Tatsuya and quickly soured me on him. Also, Inaho needs his friends but just barely. This last episode was like watching a miracle unfold with how the UEF was suddenly competent and taking out Vers Kats like there were nothing. |
| I never really hated Slaine because he never killed anybody I actually cared about, nor did he put anybody I cared about in danger. I was actually cheering him on, since I find the characters on Earth absolutely horrid to watch. I had wanted Vers to win the war the entire time for these very reasons, so I could never find it in me to despise his actions. As a Count he is doing what is best for the Vers empire, and was able to accomplish a lot more than Asseylum ever did until the final episode. I had thought that all Asseylum did was spout kind words with no actual idea about the conflict on both sides. Sadly this was rendered void in the last episode where all she did was spout out words of peace, and then all was forgiven. Slaine was also the most engaging part of the show. Both in Season 1 and 2 I was glued to the screen when Slaine's portions appeared. He made drastic actions throughout the series, and we saw consequences for them. We saw many high and low points for him. Those are what put him way above the people on Earth. On Earth we see them win pretty much every single battle they fight. They aren't engaging in the slightest, while Slaine and the entirety of Vers' storyline was so much better. I liked them more as a result, despite technically being the villains. |
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Pik3Rob said: I never really hated Slaine because he never killed anybody I actually cared about, nor did he put anybody I cared about in danger. I was actually cheering him on, since I find the characters on Earth absolutely horrid to watch. I had wanted Vers to win the war the entire time for these very reasons, so I could never find it in me to despise his actions. As a Count he is doing what is best for the Vers empire, and was able to accomplish a lot more than Asseylum ever did until the final episode. I had thought that all Asseylum did was spout kind words with no actual idea about the conflict on both sides. Sadly this was rendered void in the last episode where all she did was spout out words of peace, and then all was forgiven. Slaine was also the most engaging part of the show. Both in Season 1 and 2 I was glued to the screen when Slaine's portions appeared. He made drastic actions throughout the series, and we saw consequences for them. We saw many high and low points for him. Those are what put him way above the people on Earth. On Earth we see them win pretty much every single battle they fight. They aren't engaging in the slightest, while Slaine and the entirety of Vers' storyline was so much better. I liked them more as a result, despite technically being the villains. Slaine is most likely the only character in the entire series that was developed, to a point that we can see his good points and his bad points, among seeing all the events we witness in the anime. Love him or hate him, probably of all bad characters in the show, he is probably the most decent one of them all. Still sucks the way it ended for him. |
Darklight0303 said: Jakerams said: Slaine isn't even a villain he's the same person he was from day 1. Except unlike Inahobot Slaine does have to have some real struggle. And unlike Asshime Slaine is actually a good ruler. A good ruler. No the role he'd be more suited is court jester. You give him way too much credit, court jesters are awesome. Slaine is not. He's but a peon in disguise. |
| How can you hate literally the only fleshed out character of this whole anime? Bitch about the writers because they did a horrible job. |
Brxck said: How can you hate literally the only fleshed out character of this whole anime? Bitch about the writers because they did a horrible job. LOL fleshed out. Keep dreaming |
Darklight0303 said: More traits? Yeah suuuure. Making all the wrong decisions that even a lobotmized baboon wouldn't make doesn't make him a good character. |
bastek66 said: But Sassybum started war as revenge for his death lover, who died due to royal family's decision to retreat. The reason his wife dies is because she is a retarded bimbo with a completely worthless mech design. Just about 90% of all the Orbital Knights have these retarded mech designs that make zero sense. Brain dead degenerates care more about style points than making a mech that doesnt have easily fixed huge gaping weaknesses. |
| It's probably the ending of the season. |
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Darklight0303 said: The really question is what happens to slaine at the end of episode 24.Marloges said: It's not about who had better development, at least not for me... It's about "how interesting is this character? Do I want to see more of him?" And in the case of Inaho the answer is a clear NO. He is not interesting at all, again, for me not at least. I just hate how he manages to just fix everything on his own, how he stays calm and so on. Sure, there are geniuses, but does he have to act so cool? It makes the show more lame. It is all about: "Yeah, they're going to fight until Inaho appears with a genius new plan" Than he executes his plan, the enemy robot is defeated, rinse and repeat. I just can't find such a character sympathic. It just doesn't work in his case. For example I LOVE Tokuchi Toua from One Outs. He is another character who is always calm and plans everthing, but it just works with him. I like this character, and it just seems to me that he actually isn't "empty" like Inaho. Probably because he often laughs, I don't know. Slaine on the other hand is a character I like to see. I agree with the majority that he's doing bullshit, but I can understand his motives and like to see what's going to happen with him, you know. Slaine's fate is no mystery. He's not getting a happy end. He lost any chance of that last season and in this first episode seeing how he's dragging the war on and using the princess to fuel it. Something he got upset at Inaho for implying. You just like Slaine. He's not better in any way and his utter incompetence and lack of rational thought is off the charts. |
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| This anime is shit. fuck Inaho. Fuck Slaine. |
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