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Mar 15, 2015 4:30 PM

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Yemi_Hikari

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pagina said:
Even if Sorato WAS really intended from the beginning, even if adventure 1 was supposed to have that same ending of 02, why wasting screen time developing deeply two characters first steps in a relationship if that's not what the show was about? Even if they had the pairing in mind then. Until the ending we are supposed to believe A LOT happened. Anyone could pretty much have ended up with anyone. There is nothing there for us to argue against. They showed NOTHING.

To me honestly there is no evidence at all. I've read about it and I just can't see the arguments as evidence for a romantic relationship. But you know what, I don't really care their reasons for Sorato, or if it was hidden from the staff or whatever. I don't care if they were planning it from the beginning, if they put it there just to shock the viewers or the majority of Taiora shippers.

But well. It's there. It already happened. It's canon.

The discussion right now isn't about whether or not Matt/Sora is canon though. I think that's something most everybody including most Tai/Sora shippers get.

Somebody said they felt Matt/Sora came out of the blue, and someone else accused them of not watching the same show as them claiming there was evidence said pairing didn't come out of the blue. Bringing up the fact it was possibly intended from the start doesn't change the fact there is no evidence.

This said...

What else did the director keep secret if he kept the pairing of Matt Sora secret? How many of the problems that occurred during season two occurred because of keeping secrets? How much of this was where the copyright holder wanted them to go?

Season two is currently canon, but... if the copyright holders wanted they can retcon the canon status of anything. I'm not saying they are going to do any retconing during Tri. If they do decide to do a retcon though makes me wonder how much issues with the staff during 02 will play into making said decision.

Mar 21, 2015 10:12 PM

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Yqmato ends up with sora. She sucks though.

And me x mimi

Mar 22, 2015 4:04 PM

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Kalisto

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I only care about Kari x TK and Tai/Yamato bromance.

Sora just gets in the way of the bromance.

p.s. I watched this show in english as a kid so I'm having a hard time adjusting to the Japanese names.

Mar 23, 2015 6:04 AM

#54

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digimon adventure was my childhood, 02 ruined everything,
i know it seems foolish, but i still wish sora end with taichi in this series,
i loved taichi sora pairing too much in my childhood,

Mar 26, 2015 8:27 PM

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Tai/Sora was my second childhood OTP right behind Ash/Misty. I hated the fact that Sora and Matt ended up together without any real development together like her and Tai.

Now if this show develops Sorato then maybe I can come to terms with it being canon and I might even start to ship it, but Taiora will always be one of my favorite childhood OTPs with Davis/Kari and Ash/Misty.

"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"

Mar 29, 2015 1:15 AM

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I'm going to said from the beginning that I was 5 years old when adventure was on tv so romance was not something I knew a lot of back then but the only characters that saw with a good connection were yamatoxtaichi, in fact the only reason I ever put sora and taichi together was because she uses a fire digimon as well as him and if I'm being honest the yamato and sora thing came as a surprise to me. so yeah
YAMOTOXTAICHI!!

Mar 29, 2015 1:19 AM

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oh and TAKERUXHIKARY man I love that pair but really don't like the idea of Taixsora.
this is a complement to my other comment in case you are confuse.

Mar 29, 2015 2:02 AM

#58

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Holy shit. lol I'm surprised at the results. I thought saner heads would prevail and Sora x Yamato would win.

Okay, the thing is, I'm a huge Taiora (Taichi x Sora) fan, but the arguments I've read from the other side of the fandom were great too. And really, the creator himself said that Sorato is the canon shipping, and we could argue with that?

However, I just personally can't support Sorato, at all, despite respecting the valid reasons that have been came up with. Yes, Yamato is the more mature and cool-headed individual. Yes, a conflicted relationship with someone as hot-headed as Taichi might not work well. But you know, putting aside the myth that "opposites attract", having a safe relationship where both parties are agreeable to each other's traits (both Sora and Yamato are mature and collected individuals who think things through before rushing in, for example) seems awfully boring. It feels like a lack of passion. Relationships aren't based on calculated formula, and having a peaceful marriage doesn't necessary make for good love.

That's why Sorato just never made sense to me. Taichi has matured a lot in 02, and both Sora and Taichi compliment each other with their flaws and good points. It makes more sense if we are going to incorporate hard cold logic into this, because while certain flaws can be too great for a relationship to work, Taichi has not shown any of such detrimental aspects in 02. They both love soccer, they are both great leaders in their own right, and they are both passionate individuals with a fire inside them (note the symbolic nature of WarGreymon and Garudamon being associated with fire attacks), so if you want to talk about similarities, these two share a lot in common as well.

And as for the differences, Taichi can be more practical than Yamato's calculative mind sometimes, and it is that practicality that compliments Sora's calm and collected nature, because sometimes, you've just got to do it instead of think about it. The greatest plans on paper don't necessary have the most effective executions.

Mar 29, 2015 2:03 PM

#59

Yemi_Hikari

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JacobKyon said:
Okay, the thing is, I'm a huge Taiora (Taichi x Sora) fan, but the arguments I've read from the other side of the fandom were great too. And really, the creator himself said that Sorato is the canon shipping, and we could argue with that?

I've been able to find where the director and producer have stated Sorato is a canon pairing, but not any source where Akiyoshi Hongo actually says the pairing is canon. I know certain fans like to give credit for creating Digimon to the director and producer of the show, but that's not where credit belongs.

Mar 29, 2015 3:19 PM

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I prefer Yamato x Sora because I feel their personalities fit together a lot better. Sora changed a lot throughout the series, and after where the writers took her character, I just don't see her working out with Taichi in the end. That's just my opinion though, has nothing to do with them being canon or not (DAISUKE x KEN FOREVER! Canon can bite me, and so can that ridiculous Ken x Miyako crap).

Mar 29, 2015 3:23 PM

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Keep in mind the the English dub has a few "changes" compared to the Japanese version. For example I heard the dubbed version changed the age of the characters. I also read somewhere that a lot of romance stuff was also added in the dub, which did not exist in the Japanese version.

Mar 30, 2015 6:45 PM

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sora x taichi ?

sora x yamato ?

Pff who cares

yamato x taichi is my OTP ;D

OK... being serious I was really confused because of the movie. When I was little I shipped sora x taichi...

Maybe we are used to occidental movies in which the hero gets the girl.

Apr 2, 2015 2:23 AM

#63

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Oh. I know it's over but to clarify, I was just trying to point out that Yamato and Sora had a good friendship going before the Christmas episode.. sorry if that was unclear. lol

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Of course Taito is best.

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Apr 3, 2015 8:36 AM

#64

atlas222

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i dont really care about sora X anyone or romance..
i just hope theres a girl for our leader taichi @@

Apr 4, 2015 3:02 PM

#65

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A lot of Yamato x Sora fans say that Tai x Sora did not happen because it was realistic and you dont always end up with your childhood crush. Fine. But it is also not realistic for a middle school couple to end up getting married like Yamato and Sora. So the "realistic" argument is out the window.

You know, I get it, but I do have a hard time to see them as just a "childhood crush". I mean, all those eight children have a big history together. Sure, they are childhood friends and whatever, but after everything they've been through, they aren't just childhood friends.

Apr 13, 2015 12:54 AM

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I can't believe people are still whining over this... -__-

That aside, Taichi and Sora are definitely childhood friends. They've known each other since their Kindergarten days (speculative), maybe, but definitely since their first year of elementary school. It's like Shinichi and Ran of Detective Conan. They'd known each other since that time too.

Either way, it could've gone either way. Both falls into a cliche.

ssjup81Apr 13, 2015 12:59 AM

Apr 13, 2015 1:05 AM

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quercifolia said:

Sora x Yamato?

Sora x Taichi?

Puh-Lease, we all know the -true- pairing here is...

Yamato x Taichi

That aside, I like sora x yamato more.

Apr 13, 2015 9:31 AM

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When I started watching the Finnish dub of Digimon Adventure at 12 or so, I never shipped any of the characters. ...A few years later when they aired 02, I began to ship Takeru and Hikari simply because Daisuke annoyed the hell out of me.

Also, the Sorato pairing didn't come out of nowhere. ...Ken x Miyako did! I honestly didn't understand how those two ended up together.

PS. I prefer Sorato, simply because it's the canon pairing (and they're cuter together than Taiora). ...Though I would have loved to see Takari happen. Then again, thanks to 02, I can now create a fanmade wife for Takeru and that's more fun~ XD

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May 8, 2015 2:29 AM

#69

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I always found Tai x Sora a better pair than Matt x Sora because I always feel Tai and Sora have a connection and that could of go beyond friendship. I wouldn't mind Matt x Sora if I seen some character development between Matt and Sora but no they focus on developing the relationship ship between Tai and Sora instead of developing the relationship between Matt and Sora. Instead the director had and go and said the Matt x Sora was "foreshadow and we plan it from the start but we wanted fans to use their imagination." Even though Matt x Sora was confirmed by the director himself but I felt came out of nowhere when I watch the anime without seeing the character development between Matt x Sora. But I don't care, all I care about is seeing Tai taking role as leader again.

May 8, 2015 3:14 AM

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I will never understand why people care about this shit so much as long as I'm alive. The way "romance" was handled in 02 was the least of its problems. Seriously, whenever I come across something Adventure related, there are always tards fighting about this shit or screaming "TAIORA, TAIORA". It's been 15 years. It's not that big of a deal. Digimon is more than this shit. Well, looking at these annoying threads, I wish people would see it. This is why Adventure fandom is toxic.

BliuTigerMay 8, 2015 3:26 AM

May 8, 2015 4:27 AM

#71

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I ship Taichi with happiness.

But since that isn't on the poll, my inner child is kicking me to click Taiora.

I guess I've always been a sucker for hero/heroine ships like Pokeshipping (Ash/Misty) and NaruSaku. It's a painful road. :(

*still secretly hoping for Michi* I just don't like Mimi with Koushiro! But anyway Mimi/happiness comes first and foremost.

I'm multishipping trash anyways. Even though I prefer Taiora and Michi the most, I still think Mimato and Sorato can be cute sometimes. Jo and Mimi too (idk the ship name for them...Jomi? Mijo?). I also really loved Takeru with Hikari but that interview saying they're not canon put a knife in my heart. ;_;

And Taito is the alpha ship.

May 20, 2015 1:55 PM

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i only ship yaoi-
...and i don't really ship this kinda stuff into yaoi =w=

I like to comment Episodes as i Watch them.

May 20, 2015 6:10 PM

#73

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@ooo333 ~ My understanding is the pairing between Matt and Sora was only planned by the Director and the staff members he knew would go the way they wanted. The movies and games actually indicate the intended pairing for the series was actually supposed to be Tai and Sora.

The problem lies with the director for season two. I've read a comment from him where he declares the movies and games don't count as canon because he didn't make him and there was never any romantic feelings between Tai and Sora. The problem with this is he's not the creator of the Digimon franchise and should have done what Taoi and Bandai wanted him to do.

And yes... the producer didn't stop him, but my understanding is she didn't wish to argue with him either and choose not to do her job.

Love triangles are fun, but not the way season two did them.

May 23, 2015 8:09 AM

#74

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There is no shipping war to be had, when it is confirmed that Sora and Yamato are a couple. I don't even know where people took this idea of Sora x Taichi being a thing.

May 24, 2015 5:27 PM

#75

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millefeui said:
There is no shipping war to be had, when it is confirmed that Sora and Yamato are a couple. I don't even know where people took this idea of Sora x Taichi being a thing.

There is evidence of the pairing in the second movie as well as well as the games. All of this occurred before the second season. Ship wars also don't stop just because a pairing is suddenly confirmed as a couple. A pairing being confirmed can actually make a shipping war worse if there is belief said pairing shouldn't have ever been confirmed. This can be because there was no evidence for the shipping or because one knows someone other then the original creator derailed the series to fit their own head canon.

As someone else said...

ooo333 said:
I dont mind when my shipping sinks, but I hate it when my shipping looks very promising and then all of a sudden it goes down in the way of an "NTR".

It's not just pairings though. I've quite a few Anime which I had high hopes for but ended up disappointed with for a various reasons. A well done series shouldn't leave you thinking WTF the writer's are thinking unless you're talking about the work of somebody like Kunihiko Ikuhara and in his case you're wondering how he ended up thinking up such ideas.

May 25, 2015 4:59 AM

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millefeui said:
There is no shipping war to be had, when it is confirmed that Sora and Yamato are a couple. I don't even know where people took this idea of Sora x Taichi being a thing.

And people just suddenly forget about the evidence I'd pointed out before, about Agumon commenting that Taichi had "matured" after he encouraged Sora to go out with Yamato. Right, shipping totally non-existent.

OminousWrexMay 25, 2015 5:05 AM

May 26, 2015 11:26 PM

#77

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JacobKyon said:

millefeui said:
There is no shipping war to be had, when it is confirmed that Sora and Yamato are a couple. I don't even know where people took this idea of Sora x Taichi being a thing.

I'm suddenly reminded one of the reasons shipping wars last is because people deny any evidence for the pairing other then their own exists. In some cases they're also guilty of inventing evidence. (The last part isn't directed at Agumon's comment That is evidence.)

Jun 2, 2015 12:21 PM

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Yemi_Hikari said:
I'm suddenly reminded one of the reasons shipping wars last is because people deny any evidence for the pairing other then their own exists. In some cases they're also guilty of inventing evidence. (The last part isn't directed at Agumon's comment That is evidence.)

I don't see what the big deal is though. I mean, people shipping fictional characters bother those other people in some way? Why go out all the way to spoil other people's fun? That attitude comes with a tinge of elitism.

Jun 4, 2015 1:11 PM

#79

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You could always go the threesome route

Yamato x Sora x Taichi

Jun 4, 2015 5:51 PM

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JacobKyon said:

Some people don't care about anybody but themselves, and some people just want to feel special. That's pretty much where that kind of attitude always comes from.

May 25, 2018 12:25 AM

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Taiora never existed in the original Japanese and was never going to happen. Thanks to Nimoy's hack dub brainwashing kids, we have a whole generation of assblasted shippers who are salty over nothing. I'm not even a Sorato fan but I'm glad that ship happened because Taiora shippers are absolutely terrible and they are still mad to this day. They deserve it.

Dec 3, 2020 8:50 PM

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myuram said:
Taiora never existed in the original Japanese and was never going to happen. Thanks to Nimoy's hack dub brainwashing kids, we have a whole generation of assblasted shippers who are salty over nothing. I'm not even a Sorato fan but I'm glad that ship happened because Taiora shippers are absolutely terrible and they are still mad to this day. They deserve it.

This thread might be old, but I just had to thank you for typing out what I always want to say when the toxic Taiora shippers want to justify their rage with the horrible English dub that literally inserted romance where it didn’t belong.

There's no possible way you can steal my heart

I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy

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