Legend of the Galactic Heroes - Die Neue These stands in the unenviable position of being a remake of one of the greatest and most beloved anime ever made. The original OVA series commands a passionate and loyal cult fanbase, to whom the slightest fault or deviation is tantamount to a personal insult.
Considering the baggage this show is carrying, it can be difficult to judge it by its own merits. Which is a shame - viewed in a bubble in which the OVA series does not exist, Die Neue These is not a bad anime. In fact, it's quite a good one. It is, however,
a bad remake, and a bad adaptation.
That it is a bad adaptation is curious, as this serves as a more faithful adaptation of the source material than the OVA. But the problem lies in that adapting Legend of the Galactic Heroes into a visual medium is nigh impossible, and it's a small miracle that it was done successfully once. The original novels are so dense with description, backstory, context, lore, and philosophical navel-gazing that to adapt only that which is shown is to adapt around a third of its actual content.
While there is minimal narration at the start of each episode, Die Neue These otherwise ejects the narration that was so frequent in the first adaptation in favour of showing rather than telling. "Show, don't tell" is a good principle in theory, but here it doesn't work in practice, resulting in the loss of vital information, important context, and thematic weight. This leads to a lack of emotional investment in certain major battles that the significance of is not made clear, and character moments that echo historical events not shown to the audience. In some instances, the lack of information can simply be baffling - a notable example includes a mob being dispersed by the activation of fire hoses, which in turn automatically alert the fire department. However, these fire hoses are only previously shown to be sprinklers, and their function as fire hoses is not explained, nor is the fact that their activation alerts the fire brigade - as such, it looks like an angry, bloodthirsty mob dispersed because they got a little bit wet.
Likewise, without the room to explore their motivations, many minor characters come off as one-dimensional strawmen, whereas their reasoning and motives, whilst usually misguided, were actually grounded in some kind of reasoning or principle in both the OVA and novels. The worst example is Maximillion von Kastrop, who in the original OVA punches a couple of subordinates towards the end when his impending defeat becomes clear, and only when at wits' end. Here, he is characterized entirely by punching everybody who speaks.
Aesthetically, the overall design of the FPA and the Empire's societies and uniforms are excellent, sticking close to the design of the original series, and showing a clear divide between the European-styled aristocracy of the Empire and the modern metropolis of the FPA. The ships are similarly well-designed, with a mechanical, utilitarian feel to them that suits their role. By contrast to the rest of the series' design, the much-maligned character designs stick out like a sore thumb. There is a very shallow variation in the character faces, and whilst not quite samefaced, it would be hard to tell most characters apart by face alone. This would not be worth comment in most series, but in Legend of the Galactic Heroes this presents a unique problem. To compensate for the similarity in faces, focus was put into giving the characters unique hair, as this was not possible with character costumes due to 95% of the cast being in uniform. The problem is that this leads to many of the characters having very over-the-top and elaborate hairstyles that are unfitting of military personnel who doubtlessly do not spend an hour every morning fixing their hair up. It's a distracting feature that breaks the immersion of a series otherwise grounded in realism (It is also worth noting that the original series managed to give most of the cast distinctive hair without the need to overly stylize any of it). Similarly, many characters appearances are otherwise ill-fit to their lifestyle and personality, such as Fahrenheit and Schenkopf.
For all the errors that Die Neue These makes as an adaptation, however, it still retains a great deal of what made the source material so excellent in the first place. Legend of the Galactic Heroes follows a dual narrative with protagonists from both sides of a centuries-long intergalactic war, in which both sides are almost as bad as each other. The Galactic Empire is a fascist autocracy in which nobility are an oppressive ruling class, whereas the Free Planets Alliance are a corrupt, failing democracy, controlled entirely by politicians motivated by greed and self-interest. The Empire's side of the story is a slow-burning tale of political intrigue, while the alliance's story focuses on scathing social and political commentary, both of which are pulled off excellently.
This divide between two sides of the story also shows a dichotomy between its two leads, Yang Wenli of the Alliance and Reinhard von Musel (later Lohengramm) of the Empire. Where Reinhard is a character wronged by the empire, determined to exact his revenge and take over the empire from within by any means necessary, Yang is a scholar at heart, only joining the military to gain a history scholarship he couldn't otherwise afford, and was drafted into the military when his tactical prowess came to light. While both are extremely skilled, they otherwise offer a direct contrast in temperament and motive.Their combat ability also brings to focus grounded and realistic battle tactics ripped straight from the pages of history.
It's this, along with Yang's fascination with history, that lends LotGH a tone of a historian looking back on past events. Yang often wonders how the events of the present will be regarded in the future, whilst comparing them to those of the distant past.
This gives LotGH an excellent sense of scale, which is also shown in how war is perceived - shown not only in the bigger picture of grand victories and defeats, but focusing on the human element of it all. It's made clear that for every one of the many ships that sink in this series, thousands of lives are lost. It even goes so far as to explore the societal impact of war, focusing on the effect on the economy and standard of labour.
Unfortunately, Die Neue These - Kaikou is only the prologue, a taste of things to come. It was never going to achieve greatness in of itself - even the original adaptation was only able to do so much in its first 12 episodes. However, Die Neue These gets enough of the core elements of the series right in spite of some issues in execution that it's a solid show unto itself. It is somewhat hard to recommend, however, as the original series accomplishes almost everything this series does just as well, and more. The only things DNT has to offer in comparison are slightly better pacing, and an excellent score by Hiroyuki Sawano. But if it didn't have an older sibling to be compared to, Die Neue These would no doubt be considered excellent.
Life is funny sometimes. I've been in the anime community long enough to see the popularity of series rise, fall, and sometimes even rise again. I'm somewhat of an anime paleoconservative in that I love many anime that are no longer popular or even acceptable to like in the current year. Hell, I've spent the last 8 years trying to convince folks that Elfen Lied isn't that bad! Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine having to defend LotGH from getting unfairly shit on, but here we are!
This is MAL, so I assume everyone reading this has either seen or knows a lot about
the original Galactic Heroes OVAs. Just in case you recently joined, LotGH is an epic scale space opera that explores the conflict between a corrupt democracy and and an authoritarian monarchy. Rather than simply saying Democracy is correct and autocracy is bad, LotGH fully explores the positives and negatives of both systems and introduces us to dozens of complex and realistic characters on both sides. It's kind of like Mobile Suit Gundam for adults as opposed to young teens. At it's best, it's a series with sophistication, nuance, entertainment, and everything you could possibly want. It also has a few issues, but we'll be getting to those.
Firstly, it must be said that this is NOT a remake of the OVA series or an attempt to replace it. It is explicitly stated to be a new series that closer follows the original novels. Think of this as FMA Brotherhood and the original as FMA 03. An issue with the original series is pacing. Fans of LotGH will seriously tell newcomers "Don't worry, it gets really good after the first 60 episodes!". Not everyone in the world is a NEET. Not everyone has that kind of time to invest in a series that begins at a snail's pace. New Thesis only covers a small portion of the story, but is in general better paced than the OVA.
I was personally a big fan of how they changed back the Iserlohn Fortress plot to NOT involve the "Space Axes" the OVA made up. Those idiotic plot devices only existed to shower some blood into the series because Japanese executives in the 80s thought the show was too boring and wouldn't capture viewers. This dead serious political drama became Fist of the North Star every few episodes because the original OVA lacked faith in its audience. I don't want to hear ANYONE defend the space axes. They were dumb in the 80s and they're dumb now!
Edit: Walter does use a tomahawk in the novels in a few places, just not the massive battle axes from the anime and they weren't used at Iserlohn. Thanks to Lindle for correcting this!
Another complaint is that it's too condensed and we don't get that nameless history professor cramming exposition down our throats. Honestly, it is the characters, themes, and the politics that drive this series and not the world building. It's actually better to NOT go into super deep detail with the history because aspects of it make ZERO sense. The Empire exists because the original author thought the concept of Space Prussia was cool. He wasn't thinking about HOW this could end up happening and it leads to some serious gaps in logic. For example, the logistics of why 90% of the human population in 2600 are ethnic Germans is never explored in the novels or the OVAs and makes little sense. Ethnic Germans are currently just 2 percent of the human population in 2018 and are projected to be under 2 percent by 2100. Even if we assume that Rudolf von Goldenbaum's "Inferior Genes Exclusion Act" targeted non-Germans, which is NEVER stated in any material, it is still logistically impossible for so few to kill so many while maintaining a stable society and economy. If the series isn't going to give a fuck about the logic of its world building than why should we?! Don't waste 4 episodes of my time giving history lectures on how many shits the 4th emperor of the Goldenbaum dynasty took when a fundamental premise of the series is unexplained and makes no sense.
It is true that Yang, Reinhardt, Oberstein, and all the boys aren't yet as fleshed out as they were in the original OVAs. Keep in mind, this is only the beginning if this series does well. New Thesis has done a very solid job with the characters thus far and still should have PLENTY of time to develop the characters if all goes to plan.
One character I LOVED in the original, but admittedly works better in New Thesis is Walter von Schenkopf. He has been returned to the loyal, loveable, but realistic soldier he was in the novels. In the OVAs, Walter is transformed into this God among Men that basically becomes a joke. He's either fighting 100 on 1 and winning, banging 20 chicks at the same time, or some other act of laughably over the top manliness. OVA Walter is basically the German version of Black Dynamite and yet he's placed in this political space opera that takes itself DEAD SERIOUSLY. I swear to god the most stuffy and elitist LotGH fans must close their eyes and ears every time Walter is on screen in the OVAs and just pretend he doesn't exist. Now in New Thesis he can still be a badass and a ladies man and yet not torpedo the seriousness of the series!
The characters do have a kind of pretty boy style it's true. I personally like a lot of the character designs in the original OVAs much better. Having said that, the overall art and animation is WAY better in New Thesis. Let's be honest here for a minute folks. The first 3 seasons of the original OVAs were animated by Studio Magic Bus, the motherfuckers who did Mad Bull 34 and other schlock that nobody wanted. It was never a pretty looking series, even in the 80s. Finally the ship battles aren't stationary ships firing the same 2 frames of blue laser animation. It no longer looks like total shit, and this isn't a bad thing.
Now HERE is where the original OVAs just tower head and shoulders above New Thesis. The OVAs had that AMAZING classic composer lineup vs 1 decent anime composer for New Thesis. However, I will still defend New Thesis in this category. The OVA soundtrack created a copyright clusterfuck by using performances from dozens of major orchestras around the world. I'm pretty sure that's the main reason why you can't waltz into any Walmart in the US and pickup the original OVAs on DVD and Blu-Ray. They are not available anywhere outside Japan despite massive demand. The only way to watch them is pirate them on Kissanime.ru All hail the beauty of the copyright ignoring Runet. That is until Roskomnadzor inevitably fucks it all up.
It is obviously difficult to compare New Thesis with the OVAs. The OVAs are a finished product and New Thesis is just covering a small portion. New Thesis at this point still has a LONG way to go in order to surpass the OVas in quality and for many people that would be impossible. Even so, I feel that New Thesis is a high quality series that gets WAY more shit than it deserves. If you've never seen Galactic Heroes I would give New Thesis a watch. If you love it, you can also check out the OVAs. There is no reason you can't love both. If you love the OVAs as 98 percent of MAL does, I would still check out New Thesis. The animation, quick pacing, and closer adaptation of the source material makes it well worth your while. For now I'm giving LotGH New Thesis a well deserved 8 out of 10.
When I watched the original LoGH I often found myself asking the question "damn, where all the bishies at?" I look no further.
Note: Watching New Thesis without seeing the original LoGH is possible, but not the best idea. The characters' won't come with much depth and especially the lack of introduction in the beginning will make the series seem worse than it is. The pacing is fast and will feel rushed especially for new viewers. If we tolerate with these things, watching New Thesis instead or before LoGH is certainly not the worst idea either. After all, the first 24 episodes of LoGH are
considered very weak, and are exponentially worse than the beginning of New Thesis. Pros and cons are in balance, but personally I will recommend watching the original LoGH before watching New Thesis. That said, let's talk about New Thesis.
The first thing anyone who tries out New Thesis will notice is the art and the production values which have surpassed all expectations. The series looks wonderful from pretty much every aspect. Even the CGI is less awkward than typically. The spaceship designs are awe, the futuristic look that was such a big miss in the original LoGH is this time around rather impressive, and the backdrops of nature and space are quite immersive to look at. Even the space lazers look like they can do some actual damage this time.
The voice acting and the narration are pretty much the same as in the original. What has changed the most is the OST, and for some reason it is ridiculously fitting. Instead of offering flamboyant classic symphonies, we get to hear more atmospheric and generic trailer music type fo flamboyant beats. These do much better job in actually delivering the tension and thriller side of the battles which earlier shared the same atmosphere with snobbish cocktail parties. Splendid indeed, good sire. I have also watched the first episode English dubbed for comparison.... please, just don't, it makes the series seem like Pokemon The Space Opera. Or if that's your thing, then go ahead, I won't judge.
The actual war tactics are pretty hilarious. Basically characters are praised so they would seem smarter and more brilliant than they actually are. Battle outcomes are pretty much keikaku doori tier memes, but these are still entertaining to watch and do rather good job convincing the viewers into thinking something epic and grand scale world-changing is happening. This is, the very least, faithful to its own universe, and nothing of the sort that could ruin the viewing experience.
The characters won't seem very special if we view this as a standalone LoGH adaptation, but since pretty much everyone who is watching this has already seen LoGH, we can only call this a smart choice by not wasting much unneccesary air time in irrelevances. Still, good things exist; Especially Reinhardo's past story is much heavier than in the original and will make just about anyone understand his character. Some of these introductions are still quite shameful, especially Oberstein's who is one of my favorites from the original series. The team tried their best no doubt, but he just quite literally just walks there and says "yeah, my eyes are fucked, did you notice?" This made me laugh. Definitely not among the best scenes.
At this point, I have been enjoying New Thesis more than I ever thought was possible, and I am fairly sure this is a common thought among its viewers. I can recommend it for what it is.
This review was written by someone who has not seen, and honestly couldn’t care less about the original 1998 OVA, Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
I’ll start by saying this anime is extremely unique in it’s presentation in that it doesn’t even feel like an anime. It doesn’t really use the medium to it’s fullest, it’s not overtly creative, and nothing about it is particularly inventive except for the fact that it ISN’T inventive at all. It feels more like a play, an opera, or a wartime drama. You know, it feels like something I’d have been assigned to read in school; an epic that
spans far far past the first novel, but a story that I’d never see the end of because I was only assigned to read book one, and I didn’t care to finish it after I got my grade.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes: The New Thesis is told like an actual wartime “legend” would be, and Hiroyuki Sawano’s breathtaking opening theme personifies this perfectly. It doesn’t hesitate to walk you though events with narration, and it doesn’t feel like it was directed by a screenwriter, it feels like it was told by a professor. Events in anime are scripted, obviously. They’re stories that a team of professional writers wrote in a conference room in an effort to construct an entertaining story. This feels like the telling of chaos theory in a middle to upper level world history course. No nation on either side of the war is really acting like you’d expect them to, and events don’t play out as simply and finally as they do in film. There’s a lot of back and forth between conflicting parties that all have their own unique motives and sets of values. There’s just so so so much social politics that you just don’t see in conventional story telling because, while it’s highly realistic, it’s straight up boring to watch at times. In a phrase, “You couldn’t make this shit up”.
With the unusual yet surprisingly intriguing presentation aside, the story is extremely simple. Humanity within the known galaxy is united under two banners, The Galactic Empire and the Free Planets Alliance. The Galactic Empire was the sole galactic state who’s rule was by a monarch, and the force that would become the Free Planets Alliance rebelled against them in favor of democracy. That’s it. That’s all there is to the story because one hundred percent of conflict and drama the series has offered so far is all things you’d expect. The Galactic Empire suffers from corruption, embezzlement, feudalism, classism, and any other common abuse of power that comes with a non-elected government, and the Free Planets Alliance suffers from poverty, pacifism, protests, riots, mob mentality, desperation for re-election, and any other common disrupts that comes with a nation led by it’s people. There wasn’t a single theme or message in this show that you can’t find in an Introductory Government & Politics textbook, thus I found it to be rather bland. I must give credit where it’s due though, because no matter how formulaic the themes were, they were executed extremely well and to the point.
The strongest aspect of this story by far, as well as it’s only difference between a scholastic lecture, was the characters. The characters in this anime, as well as the dialogue script were extremely strong. Our two main characters are Reinhard von Lohengramm of The Galactic Empire and Yang Wen-li of the Free Planets Alliance. The two both find themselves at the head of their respective fleets, and they maintain a rivalry that is reminiscent of Light Yamagi and L from Death Note, or Lelouch Vi Britannia and Suzaku Kururugi from Code Geass. It’s not only a battle of wits, but a battle of ideology that carries the entire thematic gravity of the show, and I must say it is truly intoxicating to watch. Both men are so multifaceted and complex that you find yourself naturally taking sides in the war, almost like your time spent watching their trials and tribulations was their way of recruiting you into their fleet and proving themselves as a capable leader. On top of their ideologies and charisma, they each have their own forces to support them that are populated with equally well constructed cast members who make both armies feel like they’re actually made of PEOPLE. When you see a starship get shot down in the background you actually feel a small sense of loss, and that’s something that almost no show can do.
Using that last bit as a segue, I’ll finally talk about the space battles. You’re probably already aware of this, but the spaceships are all constructed with CG animation. I know a lot of people will stay away from this show on that fact alone, but if you’ve seen shows like Aldnoah.Zero, Land of the Lustrous, or Re:Creators then you know CG animation isn’t always bad. With that in mind, please trust me when I say that this is some good CG. Seeing as both armies are proper military forces, all their ships have a standard design (with the exception of some of the more decorated Lords’ ships in The Galactic Empire). Given the vey limited models, Production I.G. really took their time perfecting the few designs they actually had to make, and their detailed work clearly shows. No matter what angle the battle is shown from, the hundreds of ships in view all look flawless, and I was genuinely impressed with some of the more dynamic cinematography. Speaking of action, the battles themselves are of an absolutely massive scale, with tens of thousands of ships fighting in formation at a single time. I thought that battles of this size would be impossible to comprehend, but the strong directing coupled with holograms of the battlefield made each encounter easy to follow, as well as giving you a sense of where the battle is actually going. While the space battles look nice, the rest of the show is terrifically average and, at times, underwhelming. I feel that now is the appropriate time to mention that the space battles are the ONLY good CG in the show…I’ll just leave you with that.
In the introduction of this review, I compared this story to a novel I’d be assigned to read in school: a series I’d never finish because the assignment only concerned book one. On one occasion this happened, I’d started to forget about the series along with the rest of my classmates, but there was this one quiet bookworm type that I’d see reading book two at lunch. After months passed and she’d continued through the series, I thought I’d ask her if “it got good or something”. When I asked, she glared at me and snapped, “It was good from the beginning. You guys just weren’t patient enough to read something like this.” After watching these first twelve episodes of such an expansive narrative epic, I think I finally get what she was saying.
"Why aren't you standing?"
"This is a free country. We have the freedom to not stand if we don't want to. I'm only exercising that freedom."
"Then why don't you want to stand?"
"I exercise my freedom to withhold my answer."
‒ Yang Wen-li, in the audience at a government speech
Does this sound familiar to anyone? You find yourself in a "free" country where you have the freedom to agree with the political leadership or a masked group will come break your windows in the name of patriotism. The Free Planets Alliance even has "free" in its name. See how much it helps.
Throw your beret in the air! Legend
of the Galactic Heroes is back. This is a new adaptation, but its central focus remains the same: the characters like nothing more than discussing political philosophy. By itself, a war between an empire and a republic would be nothing new, just another entry in a long pile of similar works. You know the drill: Good Republic vs Evil Empire, etc. Here we have the Galactic Empire and the Free Planets Alliance, which just based on their names may alarm viewers bored with such settings.
But what is different here is the presence of actual debate about political topics: democracy, nations, individual liberties, and so on. The arguments are not overly complex or difficult to follow, but these topics are not ignored or brushed aside like they so often are in fiction, even when there are prime opportunities to examine them. Instead of blindly praising democracy, they actually portray some of its flaws. They hold elections in the Alliance, yes, but does this guarantee that it is a free country? How do you think authoritarian strongmen get into power in the first place? Often by winning elections. The Galactic Empire was not always an empire either. When people begin to think that governing is not something done by them but for them, this is the outcome. They abdicate responsibility and blindly follow a self-proclaimed figure of authority who claims to "speak for the people".
Since this is a war drama, surely it will be in favor of nationalistic flag-waving, right? No, quite the opposite, actually. Political institutions such as states are only tools, not something that should be valued for the sake of itself, no matter what the government propagandists say. And in this show they say quite a bit. But why fight for the fatherland when you can fight out of foppery and whim?
In fact, there has been quite a bit of war. The Empire and the Alliance have been at war for some 150 years, at great human and economic cost but very little progress for either side. By the way, given that the death toll in a single battle can be over a million soldiers, "great human cost" is putting it pretty mildly. But who cares, right? A million is a statistic. The war is great for the Alliance government because it provides the citizens with an external enemy and distracts them from domestic issues. Same for the Empire; it helps keep the nobles in line, to an extent at least.
Well, it is not as though the series is without issues. For instance, some of the fleet tactics in space may easily raise an eyebrow or two. It is the age-old space opera dilemma: if you had a fleet of spaceships, would you actually command them like a seafaring navy? Yes, they are equipped with scifi tech, so not all of our familiar laws of physics apply, but it feels oddly convenient. What is the optimal method of warfare in space? Is it really gathering up ships so close to each other that you can probably hit one by firing in the general direction? Apparently, there are also chokepoints in space because you can't navigate in some areas. They even built a fortress on one of those chokepoints. From a tactical standpoint, all of this could have been more easily realized by placing this war on the ground.
And even if we accept all of this, there are a few military commanders who lack a basic understanding of tactics, even by standards of ground-based warfare. There are also those who place honor before reason to the point of suicide or are so convinced of the moral virtue of their expedition that they do not even think it through tactically. If they can arbitrarily lose millions of soldiers and thousands of ships, you might argue that they should have been sacked long ago. However, it is not entirely unrealistic, as there has always been an abundance of incompetent commanders and politicians. They got their jobs because they are "friends" with the current regime or because of the general stupidity of the population.
That said, it is surprising that the Empire has managed to survive as long as it has, given the amazing level of intellect ‒ or lack thereof ‒ portrayed by some of their high nobles. What is even more surprising is that the Empire appeared in the form that it did, with archaic nobility instead of a more modern dictatorship. Of course, fiction does not have to be perfectly realistic and being ultra-realistic is not always the best writing choice, but I generally prefer a realistic approach.
On another note, a few words about this adaptation and the older OVA. There are some differences, for sure, such as the visuals: they have CGI ships and different character designs, which I didn't particularly mind. I found the visual design of Iserlohn Fortress pretty impressive, actually, and it shows the advantages of CGI when used right. You can see the metal structures beneath the liquid surface, the reflections of the stars, and even the small waves when the turrets are moving around.
In terms of the actual script, the new adaptation follows the novels a bit more faithfully. Some characters are introduced later, some of the scenes in the older adaptation are absent here, and some of the flashbacks and infodumps are actually organized better. While there are individual episodes that benefit or suffer from these differences, they do not overturn the central themes of the show in any substantial way. Also, this 12-episode season is only a modest beginning. This series is a doorstopper, so there will be much more to follow, including many of the highlights.
In the very beginning of the first episode, they said, "If the events depicted here bear a resemblance to anything you know, or the people appearing here bear a likeness to anyone you know, it is but a fluke of history, and an inevitability". They were right.
Now, remember to watch out for broken windows, stray traffic, and other unfortunate patriotic accidents, in case the show was a little too accurate.
Out of all the anime of 2018 Legend of the Galactic Heroes The New Thesis is the most overlooked and underestimate anime of the 2018 thanks to the anime elitist crowd bashing the series for its Kuroko no Basket character designs.
For a short while, I was part of that crowd as I like to make fun of the new series by memeing they face on social media website however when I eventually cut all ties with the elite crowd I decided to give it a proper chance and when I finished it I was shocked of good it was for the most part. Sure it may
not have the same flare and charm that is present in the original series but for a standalone project this series was pretty solid and am going to tell you why. Hello, everyone, this is Shawn aka PhantomKurata and welcome to my review of Legend of the Galactic Heroes The New Thesis and with that out of the way let's get started.
For over 150 years in the distant future two interstellar human states – the Galactic Empire and the Free Planets Alliance – were embroiled in what seem to be a never-ending war within the Milky Way galaxy. Out from the ravages of war emerged two young stars whose deeds would make them worthy of the appellation of Galactic Heroes. They are Reinhard von Lohengramm from the Galactic Empire and Yang Wen li from the Free Planets Alliance.
The story for Legend Of The Galactic Heroes Die Neue These is pretty solid for the most part.
For starters the show for the most part at introducing it's characters where instead of introducing it's main character all at once like in the first episodes of the original series the show decided to have viewer focus on the perspective of a single character which was Reinhard in episode 1 in The New Thesis. This new approach really helps with the show narrative as it gives plenty of time for the viewer to understand and care about theses characters in they respective factions.This later happens in the original series as well but I liked the mainly focus on one character in a respective factions right out of the gate.
It does a great job at building it own world that is believable and intriguing.
The thing that I loved about this show is how it's it tackles serious political themes such as racism, money, control and the way the show handle it's themes and topics were pretty good for the most part and it keeps the viewer interested.
The writing in the series is pretty good the most part. Sure it may have it's hipcups along the way but I thought it was consistent enough to be good.
As much I liked the story of Legend Of The Galactic Heroes Heroes The New Thesis it does has some problems which at times can hurt the show depending on where you look at it.
For starters do you remember when I praised the show of it tackles serious political themes. Well I thought the show can be a bit too over the top with it's core political themes where the original series did not have this problem at all.
The same thing can apply for episode 1 where as much I liked the different approach of introducing it character in a different way it has it downside such as Reinhard magically overpowering the Free Planets Alliance force in the most simplest way possible. What really made upset the most is how the show paints Reinhard as a smart person. That is not smart at they. He's just been fighting with and against incompetent solders in that entire time who clearly did not what the hell they were doing.
Another issue that I have with the show it would be the pacing.
While the original series least the first 26 episodes slightly had this problem as well I think it much worse here but at times the show can be pretty inconstant as it times the show either moves way too fast. Meaning that the viewer would potentially miss up on certain story elements just because the shows pacing is pretty inconstant times.
The biggest problem with Legend of The Galactic Heroes The New Thesis is how at various times don't feel like this epic space opera. I know am going be biased here but comparing the space opera elements in the original series with Legend of The Galactic Heroes The New Thesis it's like comparing Season 1-3 of Spongebob Squarepants with Season 9 and beyond of Spongebob Squarepants. It may have the charm as the original but at the same time it's different and it's inferior compare to it's older self.
I know I ended by being quite negative there but that honestly how I feel especially coming from someone who is a fan of the series. I just thought certain things could have been a lot better.
Overall the story is good for what it was but there were certain things that could have been done a lot better.
The characters in Legend Of The Galactic Heroes Die Neue These are pretty great overall as they all likable and mostly interesting characters in they own rights.
Reinhard is a great, fun and intriguing character that I really enjoyed from start to finish. I really his ambition to change the world for the better. I really liked his duo relationship with his best friend Kircheis and he's overall a joy to watch.
Yang is also a pretty great character in he's own right. Compare to Reinhard who more a serious individual despite being a bit bratty at times Yang is more easy going and lay back person who has he's own meaning ideals of democracy.
Like with Reinhard he's an intriguing and fun character that I really liked.
I was honestly very worried that the character in Legend of The Galactic Heroes The New Thesis where they not going to get much character development thanks to it's 12 episode count. Luckily Production IG least for the most part manages to flesh out it's large character cast in a great and meaningful way. However there were certain characters in the show were left underdeveloped but I think they will have a spotlight in the movies. I won't spoil who but if you were a fan of certain characters Legend of The Galactic Heroes universe don't feel too disappointed as they may get they time to shine in the movies.
Overall the characters, for the most part, were pretty damm good.
Visually Legend of The Galactic Heroes The New Thesis is pretty good for the most part.
The background scenery is top notice as it has a great use of sci-fi color palette that adds more atmosphere to the show setting and themes.
This may sound off as an unpopular opinion coming from a fan of the original series but I actually prefer the character designs more than the season 1 of the original series. Yes the character designs may not be for everyone especially for die-hard fans of the original series of how modernise it was but I really liked the new designs for the most part. There were some character designs that were questionable but they didn't really bother me all that much.
The animation is pretty good for what it was. I loved how the space battle in the series were animated. While the use of CGI for the space battles wasnt that good in the first episodes in grandly improved as the series goes on.Outside the space battles the animation is smooth and consistent.
The soundtrack is pretty good for the most part. It may not be at great as the original but it still has great sci-fi/space feel that perfectly captures the tone and setting of the series.
The opening theme Binary Star by Sawano Hiroyuki is hands own the best opening theme of 2018 as it does a masterful job at capturing the tone and setting of the series. It may not be as truly masterful as the original ones from the OVA series but it still is an awesome opening that that I really adored.
The ending Wish by " ELISA is a wonderful ending that perfectly sets that beautiful mood when finishing an episode of this show plus it ending song at times sounds feel like an orchestral version of the original first opening theme Skies of Love even thought it's a different song.
Now for sub vs dub.
The sub is overall amazing as you expect as each pf the Seiyuus did a fantastic job with the roles that they were given.
The dub for Legend of the Galactic Heroes The New Thesis is pretty damm great. Sure some actors can start off a bit rocky but they better as the series progresses as they get used to the they roles that they were given.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes The New Thesis is a pretty good show. It may not be great as it has some problem with certain narrative decisions as having pacing issues the show for the most part still has that original series charm that I loved.
The story while having some issues was still pretty solid, the character are great and very enjoyable. The visuals were good, the soundtrack is nice and the voice acting for both the sub and dub was great.
It's may not be as masterful as the original series but for a standalone production, this was a good show for both newcomers as well as fans of the show. The show may not be for everyone but what it's worth it's still a pretty good anime that I enjoyed.
Crafting a masterful anime is similar to cultivating a delicate flower, it requires a willingness to accept circumstances the way they are, and not the way we wish them to be. Lithops, a flower with a low dependence on water, can have their skins burst if they are oversaturated with excess liquids. In the same breath, an anime that strives for over-the-top action sequences (e.g. run-of-the-mill Shounen anime) but neglects the political, economic, and social struggles that accompany those events, falsely establishes a dichotomous situation that rarely, if ever, exists. The original Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu (Legend of the Galactic Heroes) understood these
concepts extremely well, taking every opportunity it could to flesh out characters, explore pertinent historical events, and question the role(s) of government and its people. If it were required to sum up the original series in one-word, it would be: methodical. Nothing ever felt rushed, hurried, or crammed down our throats. Everything blossomed from the seeds of past events. And while the outcomes may, or may not, have been what we had expected, it all blended into a larger political narrative that is relevant today, and, I suspect, for many generations to come.
Enter the next installment of LotGH: The New Thesis
Call me pessimistic if you will, but I was having legitimate concerns with this series after viewing the third episode. It started by retelling the history of Rudolf Goldenbaum and the birth of the Free Planets Alliance; however, the episode only dedicated two minutes to the documentary-styled recap of the war between the two powerhouses. In the original series, an entire episode was dedicated towards this recap, and it occurred much later on. Not saying that I did not enjoy the presentation of the material in this manner, but it felt like the meticulous gradualness of the original series might be interchanged for a more robust-paced narrative in the The New Thesis. Luckily, this was not the case. As the series seems to have found its rightful mode of delivery: languid (unhurried).
My next area of concern rests with the most dreaded three words in the anime community: C..G…I. Fans of Berserk — including myself — know all-to-well what can happen to fantastic source material when mixed with gaudy, half-assed animation. The New Thesis is nowhere near as terrible as Berserk (2016), that is to be sure, but it is not unblemished. The action sequences, in particular, reveal numerous imperfections that leave the viewer feeling somewhat disappointed. This can be forgiven, for the most part, considering that LotGH relies on the strength of its narrative, as opposed to elegant battle scenes. That being said, however, the animation is not all bad. The landscapes are especially gorgeous, displaying a vibrant blend of beautiful colors. Granted, landscape shots are typically still images, but it doesn’t take away from its beauty. The character designs can be a bit jarring upon the first viewing, a good majority of the characters look remarkably similar to one another. In fact, I would wager, that if you made everyone bald, for the sake of comparison, it would be difficult to differentiate several of the key characters; except for Rubinsky, dude’s rocking those mutton chops like its 1838 (putting Martin Van Buren to shame). That all being said, the animation is not flagrant enough to diminish the numerous positive aspects of the show, nor is it exceptional enough to classify it as groundbreaking. It’s, more or less, middle of the road.
In terms of enjoyment, the series may not have attained its previous glory of being a masterpiece (not yet, at least), but it still carries the aura of being the Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu we all know and love. There have been a few hiccups here and there, like the sprinkler scene with the Patriotic Knight Corps and the random car chase with Yang and Jessica; but, taken as a whole, the series has been a source of great entertainment. The capture of Iserlohn, in my opinion, has been the hallmark moment of the first season — and with good reason. It highlighted the subtle genius of Yang to circumvent the “courageous” leaders of Iserlohn, using nothing more than a few crafty men, and a well conceived plan. Considering that most anime perpetuate the myth of dying on the sword with honor, it is refreshing to view a series that understands that it is more appropriate to fight another day — like Oberstein — rather than die in obscurity.
The large cast of characters, as expected, is complimenting the expansive narrative quite well. With the exception of a few blowhard leaders in the Empire, everyone is portrayed through an impartial eye, allowing the viewer to empathize with characters in both the Empire and the Free Planets Alliance. Furthermore, we are beginning to see the faults with both the Authoritarian and Democratic governments, giving the viewer much to ponder in terms of what role does/should government play in a society? And why governments, for the most part, tend to favor the powerful elite, allowing the poor and middle class to fight “their” battles. Jessica Edwards, a Free Planets Alliance peace activist, does a nice job of highlighting this discrepancy to a crowd of sympathetic people, while the politicians in charge think only of their possible reelection. The juxtaposition of the decadent board room of these influential policy-makers, mixes well with their conversation regarding the “struggling” economy of the Free Planets Alliance. Proving that no matter the hardships, and no matter the political system, the ruling elite will always prosper.
12 episodes in a series that spanned 110 episodes in its original iteration, is akin to dipping your toes in the water of a swimming pool. Depending on how long they plan on making the series, and the quality of the episodes, I could see myself revisiting this score to bump it up to a “9.” Be that as it may, there is still significant work to be done. Considering the track record of most remakes nowadays, The New Thesis is nothing short of being superb in its approach. But, we are only just beginning — hopefully.
The New Thesis will have to stand or fall on its own merits. The fact that the series takes great pains to introduce and endear its main characters tells us the series is intended to be enjoyed on its own without previous knowledge of the source material and the OVA.
One of the things I ask myself with every time I encounter a remake/reboot/reimagining is “Why? What does it offer that wasn’t done before?”
Admittedly, I haven’t finished watching the OVA, nor have I read the source material. So I can’t in good conscience tackle the issue about what the story offers more than what was told
before. Here’s what I do know though: The New Thesis will have updated visuals. It is only expected. A New Thesis and a generation to entice; and it went okay. I guess.
For one, despite criticisms of its character designs, exemplified by the mocking fan title “Legend of the Generation of Miracles”, the characters feel a little more varied than what we usually get in anime, some with distinct facial features and enough variety in hairstyles and facial hairs to easily identify them if you’re that much of a hardcore fan, at least for the more visible characters.
The rest of the show’s aesthetics is nothing too surprising. It is par for the course of what I would expect from a modern day depiction of the future environment and technology. There’s the usual drill of holograms, although it’s far more toned down, far less intrusive, and far more useful than some movies I can name. Other than that, there’s also the same old cinematic technique of having a contrast between the spaceships of both factions: the Alliance’s ship designs and ship interiors is austere while the Empire’s is steeped in grandeur.
In terms of battle, it puts priority on spectacle as is expected. It evokes the same technique of fleet-wide battles Star Trek and Star Wars employ: cinematic first and foremost. Think DS9's Sacrifice of Angels. And it is as illogical and inefficient. In fact, LoGH has often been described as a series that views warfare in only two dimensions. And it retains that aspect. Fleet tactics doesn’t seem to be more advance than the line-of-battle approach of the 1600s.
This approach is probably the most pleasing visually and the most workable one in fleet-wide battles, cinematically speaking. I can understand. I'm okay with that. It’s simply the one that gives you plenty of frames of reference for the action occurring on the screen. It’s for the same reason fighter aircraft engagements in movies are set to occur within visual range. It gives you visual cues that are easy to understand and process. You can easily pinpoint who is winning and who is losing. The problem with this series in particular is that it doesn’t make full use of the visuals. The battles feel like set piece engagements instead of dynamic and ever-shifting. It’s just two sides exchanging a volley of fire, with no meaningful information given. It doesn’t help the viewer(s) understand what is happening. It just gives them something to look at. Given the space battle style used, I feel like that’s missing half the purpose. Heck, the visual cues (holograms) inside the spaceships' bridge areas are more informative and helpful in informing us of the state of battle. This is a series that banks on improved visuals as one of its perks. Its visuals should be more useful and informative. That or they utilize the holograms more and create more focus and depth on the commanding officers as they give the orders that decides the fates of entire planets.
Because, ultimately, I consider this to be the main draw of the series: two legends in the making, their choices, and their intertwined story that spans the galaxies and affects the entire course of humanity.
I feel that the series has taken solid steps in that direction. Episode 1 begins in the Battle of Astarte and wastes no time in introducing and establishing one of its main characters while Episode 2 shows us the same battle, this time through the perspective of the other main character. It then utilizes Episodes 3 & 4 to individually introduce each character, where they’re coming from, and how they got to where they were in the Battle of Astarte. This setup allows us to appreciate and understand where both characters are coming from without fighting for our attention over the course of a single episode -a far, far stronger approach than the first episode of the 110 episode OVA where both characters are fighting for screentime, resulting in a far more fragmented introduction. Here, we are allowed to focus on one character for one episode, and then the other in the next.
It could have done more though. It wasted some prime opportunities to delve even deeper.
Case in point: the simulation in Episode 4 flashback. Episode 4 tries to paint Yang, still a cadet, as someone worthy of the title magician, through a simulation against the top student of the class. Demonstrating a character’s capability and, well, measure of his character, using a simulations program is not a new concept. It’s the futuristic space exploration stories’ shorthand/equivalent to demonstrating a character’s intellect using chess. It has been used for example, to paint a picture of James T. Kirk, in what is commonly known as the Kobayashi Maru scenario.
The series did not use its simulations effectively. It could have been used far more effectively to tell us what kind of commander he is by putting him in a situation where he has to make difficult choices or emphasizing clearly how he pursues his mission. Perhaps it tried to tell us what kind of commander/tactician Yang is (one that values the objective much more than anything else, according to his actions in this test at least) but it was vague and inconclusive because we don’t understand what that test entails. Was his move really a gambit, sacrificing the bulk of his fleet in an outnumbered fight of attrition while a detachment the opponent blatantly ignored accomplished the objective? We don’t know. All we know is that it was supposed to be the test that gets him noticed and set him on his path, and he won over the top student of the class because the top student of the class simply forgot Yang’s win condition.
But still, all in all, it could be a decent space opera. Viewers who came here for political intrigue or military strategems would be disappointed however.
The series attempts to tackle the political sphere and sets up its narrative in part to cater to that. But it strikes me more as a space opera than a debate, a space age set drama about the follies and triumphs of humans. With that, it attempts to put its characters to the forefront at first, and the political sphere is secondary; which is nice, because its politics and arguments are basic and simple. It lacks nuance and detail, and relies on simplified versions and preconceived notions of concepts such as liberty, the social contract, and government. How they view political systems may not be as black or white as is the norm but it also still boils down to the basic identities of what constitutes a democratic and an authoritarian government. That it is different from the way political viewpoints are normally tackled in the entertainment industry is not a testament to its genius but a reminder of how low that particular bar is set.
At times it can even get more comically, unintentionally or not. Those patriot patrol guys or something should have been a far more insidious symptom of the cracks in the Alliance’s façade. The reaction of the kid especially should have been the creepier option: thinking this was all perfectly normal and acceptable in this society rather than being self-aware, extremely so. The scene felt like it wasn’t given gravity it needed. It could have felt as fucked up as a child continuing to love the parents who neglect and hurt him because he thinks that it’s one of their ways of showing love or that because it’s his fault he misbehaved that they beat him severely.
Its views and understanding of warfare roughly falls under the same pattern. The first episode attempts to demonstrate to us the cranial capacity of one of its main characters, Reinhard, by having him prevail while outnumbered two to one. Reinhard pulls this “amazing and unprecedented victory” off in a rather straightforward manner, through a concept we call Force Concentration. Look it up in Wikipedia. The problem with this is that it’s such a basic and commonly accepted concept in war that it’s hardly daring or revolutionary. And yet for the admirals and commodores of both sides that are not the main characters, this was baffling and overwhelming. The factions these characters are in have been at war for over 150 years and yet this is a revolutionary and daring plan, one that helps justify him getting promoted to one of the highest echelons of the Imperial Military? This doesn’t paint Reinhard as a genius. This paints him as a slightly competent man in a war fought by insufferable idiots. He’s not necessarily smart. He’s just fighting with and against dumbasses.
And frankly, that last couple of sentences sums up this series. This one stands out because it is different from the score of repetitive mediocrity.
Legend of the galactic heroes: Die Neue These or Legend of the kuroko no basket is one of the worst remakes that ever in my life
First of all you should never make an extremely inferior remake to the original
Second: When you do a remake, you should at least improve some things, and be of almost equal quality to the originial, or be better. The remake should not be completely identical, so you will not see anything new. For example: Remakes like dragon ball has a slightly better animation, and it also removes several unguarded eps, and improves the pacing. But it's not an incredible remake,
but it's okay.
Third: A remake must be superior to the original. Look for example the remake of hunter x hunter, where it has an animation a thousand times superior to the classic, and still has a better pacing. And yet deliver new bows
And sadly, the remake of legend of the kuroko in the basket is a thousand times inferior to the original. For having so many inferior things. Like the music, characters, history and even the animation.
We start with history. And which one has the best story? hahaha the answer is obvious: Legend of the galatic heroes 1988. It is obvious that the story better, but to tell the truth, the story should have an identical quality, since this is a remake with the same story ne? But not. Like all modern anime, the story of this remake is incomplete, disappointing both fans of the series and who saw only this remake. Aside from that in terms of pacing, pacing sucks, being sped up and focusing more on battles than on philosophical and organic dialogues.
Now characters: Again; the answer is obvious. It is clear that the characters of galatic heroes of 1988 are better. They are super interesting, human and very well developed. Now the Legend of the Kuroko characters in the basket are totally forgettable. They are very shallow and have no development whatsoever.
Now animation: Who wins? It's obvious that legend of the galatic heroes of 1988. Fans of this remake: How is this possible ?? THE COLORS ARE VERY BEAUTIFUL, 3D is incredible.
The animation of legend of the kuroko in the basket is simply generic with absolutely nothing special. It only has beautiful colors and the special battles seem to me very lively, but in artistic or illustration terms they are very weak and forgettable. Other than that the design is indeed shitty and generic. The 1988 animation is best for being quite artistic, the illustrations, symbolism, character design, were fantastic
Now the sound: Who wins? Obviously legend of the galactic heroes of 1988. The voice performance of both are good. Now the music ... The music from this remake is incredibly forgettable. The songs are forgettable. 1988's songs are simply incredible. is one of the most memorable things. The 1988 anime was simply a true musical spectacle of classical music, the presence was very strong, and it caused many emotions. Other than that all the openings were fantastic.
And with that we conclude that this remake is a waste of time. Simply forgettable, with very shallow and forgettable characters, accelerated story without organic or philosophical dialogues, forgettable songs, generic animation with nothing special and incomplete history. Total loss of time, will see the classic and ignore it, I believe that even who is not a fan of the classic, will not like this, so forgettable and shallow it is.
Contrary to almost anyone’s expectations, Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These is a new adaptation that doesn’t just exist in the shadow of the OVA adaptation; it has earned the right to stand alongside it.
DNT had an almost impossible task set before it. It had to please both OVA fans (who are as demanding and resistant to change as a fanbase as any that exists) AND try to draw in a new viewerbase in a modern anime environment not receptive to lengthy space political epics. Considering this context, it’s practically a miracle that DNT hasn’t been torn to shreds from the first
episode onwards, and has in fact been warmly received by many old and new fans.
Before we dive into the main review, it Many when considering DNT want to know not how it stacks up by itself, but how it stacks up as an adaptation of the novels (or, secondarily, the OVA). And here, I actually think DNT has done a much better job at adaptation than many give it credit for.
As many will know, DNT sticks fairly closely to the novel. The first book is utterly dense with countless details on every page. DNT didn’t capture all of it, but it it captures a surprisingly high amount of it, both in background detail and lengthy dialogue scenes lifted straight from the novel. The attention to detail in the adaptation process is impressive. The occasional changes made were often smart too, such as showing more of Jessica, or the scenes on the planet surface in ep 11.
Overall, while not matching the range of detail and depth found in the novel, it isn’t fair to describe DNT as a “dumbed down” or simplified version lacking in detail. It packed a hell of a lot into just 12 episodes (so far) and cut surprisingly little that was important from the novel out if you actually compare the anime directly to the novel. With that out of the way, let’s discuss the story.
Undoubtedly the most important part of GinEiDen is the story, namely the politics, space battles, and the characters. In this respect, DNT is very faithful to the (already brilliant) novel source material. Most scenes and dialogue closely follow their novel counterparts, apart from some scenes that are anime-original or taken from the OVA in order to flesh certain moments out. Overall the story is the same as the OVA, except for the rearrangement of some scenes to be closer to the novel order or for narrative effect, and also OVA-original filler is not present here.
LotGH is essentially a story about the conflict between two states - the autocratic Galactic Empire, and the democratic Free Planets Alliance. The whole story explores many different political and philosophical themes, and asks what the best form of government and philosophy to live by is. It’s truly fascinating a lot of the time, and still very relevant to the world we live in despite being written back in 1982. The sides of the conflict aren’t portrayed as black and white, and how the show proceeds to show the morality of the Empire and Alliance might surprise you. Ofcourse, much of this is well in the future for DNT, but so far the political aspects have been well-handled.
DNT has a slower pace of introducing key elements compared to the OVA, which being made for existing novel readers wasn’t concerned with introducing many elements at once. However, DNT’s approach is faithful to the novel (also, obviously, intended for new fans), and in any case, a vast world of many dozens of named characters, relationships, and locations is introduced just during these first 12 episodes, and there’s much more to come.
If you’re a military otaku, you may notice that LotGH’s tactics are often not that sophisticated. Some might see this as a flaw, and for some it may take them out of the experience. But I’d make two points. Firstly, LotGH’s battles are more of an allegory for 18th-century warfare than anything else. Secondly, the focus of this series is on politics, so the battles are mostly simple enough for ordinary people to understand.
This is only the first season which covers the first novel (of 10 + 4 side novels). So the score is only for the very first part of the story, which is not as good as that comes later. The story will improve much further in later parts, but is already highly intriguing for fans of space opera, politics or history.
DNT already has a cast of dozens of named characters on both sides. However, GinEiDen being such a long story as it is, only about half a dozen get a significant amount of focus in this first series. As for the characters in general, everything is well-handled and there are no characters that are out of character or handled particularly poorly compared to their counterparts in the old versions. I’ll talk about the half dozen
Reinhard is the first character to be which we are introduced, and it is fair to call him the overall protagonist of the series. He’s an ambitious upstart rising rapidly up the ranks, a genius at military strategy, but also very young (just 20) so prone to immaturity and brattiness at times. He’s also a very morally ambiguous character. Reinhard throughout this first season is rather distant and cold for the viewer, leading one to wonder what exactly is going through his head. While his performance hasn’t blown me away just yet, Miyano is one of the best possible modern voice actors for Reinhard, and he’s done a good job so far. I’m looking forward to seeing how this new version will take his character going forward.
Yang, our protagonist on the Free Planets’ Alliance side, is probably the most sympathetic character for most viewers new and old alike. Infact, Yang’s character may be the best part of DNT thus far, providing a likeable lead for the viewer to latch onto. Some of the best character animation of the series, and indeed of recent anime in general, is given to him, and it made the relatively slow episodes of 2 and 4 surprisingly engaging to watch. SuzuKen, best known as Sougo from Gintama, also pulls off a very likeable VA performance. New viewers, prepare to discover a new best boy; old viewers, say hello again to an old friend.
Kircheis is Reinhard’s best friend and also a gifted strategist in his own right. Now my reaction to Kircheis’ portrayal in DNT is a little mixed. I do actually like some of the things they’re doing to make his character more three dimensional here and maybe closer to the novel portrayal. His VA, while quite different to the OVA one, I don’t have a problem with either. Still, so far he could do with coming off friendlier than he currently is doing.
Yang ally Schoenkopf is possibly the best developed of the 2nd-tier cast, getting a 2 episode arc focusing on him, especially ep 7. His look and voice is different to before, but still faithful to the soul of the character as described. He’s definitely an entertaining presence on screen, being quite larger than life - he has some of the best lines in the series - but also with strong ideals and a moral backbone.
Then there’s Julian, Yang’s adopted son. He was always my least favourite major character, and I can’t say DNT is doing a better job with him, though perhaps there’s no way to.
We’ve also been introduced to the fan-favourite Oberstein. Hig greatest moments in the story are yet to come, but everything was present and correct as far as his character goes - including a great tribute by his new voice actor Suwabe.
Finally, the star of the show in eps 10 and 11 was Andrew Fork, played by the master of jerkish characters, Kamiya. The facial animations and vocal performance on this character was really well handled, just delightful all round, especially a standout scene with him and Bewcock in ep 11.
The studio behind LotGH:DNT is Production IG, one of the best in the business. While this isn’t the best work IG have put out, for a primarily “talking heads” sort of anime, this is a very strong production. The 2D work has a good level of detail and there is some very nice character animation, something IG tends to excel at. Particular noteworthy is the background art which is frequently excellent, some of the best I’ve seen in TV anime recently.
Some people hate any sort of CGI in anime, but the CGI here is pretty good. The ship models and the lighting used on them are good, and they convey a great sense of scale during the battles. There are some awkward looking shots especially the space explosions and the ships do arguably lack weight to them, but overall the space battles are visually pleasing and are easier to follow than the 80s version.
Much has been said about the character designs, especially before the show came out, as has been acknowledged by most they did look worse on paper than on screen. Now, I’m someone who read through Umineko with the original sprites, so I’m not one to get annoyed by this aspect, but it does bother some people. There have even been some people who are refusing to watch the new show because of it. But honestly, while I do miss Reinhard’s curly hair and the like, the look of DNT is not bad for most characters. The exceptions to that are Kircheis who doesn’t look friendly enough, and some of the less important admirals whose designs are kinda silly looking compared to the OVA.
Voice acting is very solid throughout. Lots of prominent male seiyuu in all the main roles. Minor or older characters have fitting VAs too, some of them returning from the old series. Deliveries were fine and fitted the emotional tone of the scenes they were performing. Overall, nothing to complain about in the seiyuu department.
I really like the OP for DNT, despite the Starship plagiarism. Actually I’ve been playing the single CD quite a bit since it arrived. On the one hand, it doesn’t seem to fit LotGH… But on the other hand, somehow, it actually does. The ED is much slower but is also pleasant, even if the ED animation is disappointingly limited.
As for the in-show music, it has an orchestral sound to it, though the famous stock Classical music of the OVA hasn’t returned. Overall the new music hasn’t bothered me and there are some nice tracks such as those that played during much of episode 3. Furthermore the show wisely lets there be silence during many of the dialogue scenes, similar to the OVA. The one thing that has annoyed me is the piano track that plays during the battle scenes of ep 1 and 2, which was quite distracting. Sometimes the use of music hasn’t fit a scene too well, though there’s other times it was very fitting. Overall the
-Sub vs Dub-
DNT, unlike the OVA, has a dub courtesy of Funimation. And it’s… okay, I guess, aside from the infuriating mispronunciation of Kircheis’ name. The script is pretty strong, and the series by its nature avoids the problem of other dubbed anime My problem is that many of the key roles feel quite miscast, especially Reinhard, but Yang also (while a good performance) sounds too old and deep for his character.
The dub is far from terrible, but definitely inferior to the Japanese track, so if you’re able to watch subs then go with the subbed version.
Despite my overall praise of the new series I do have some criticisms, mainly related to the storytelling:
- Kastop rebellion felt very underdeveloped compared to other versions, here it was more a vehicle for Kircheis to get a promotion
- Phezzan wasn’t introduced early enough, leaving some viewers confused about their role in the story.
- The particulars of Reinhard’s plan in ep 11 weren’t explained. This is also true of the novel, but the OVA adding some details here was appreciated.
- Most of ep 5, aside from the first scene, wasn’t that good in general
- Some awkward space CGI shots. Most definitely looked good, though.
- Not much of a “historical” feel due to modern presentation and lack of narrator for long stretches
- Can be difficult to tell time skips or the length of time between events, as the show rarely tells you how much time has passed.
- Ends on a poor cliffhanger for the 2nd part
General criticisms of GinEiDen as a whole:
- Many may be annoyed at the incompetence of the leadership on both sides
-Very slow pacing. Again this is YMMV but there are full episodes where not much “happens”. Please don’t expect a series focused on space battles
- Very soft sci fi, don’t expect explanations of how the future tech works
-Lots of elements introduced at once often with little explanation or reason to care yet.
Overall, LotGH:DNT has pulled off a satisfying mix of familiarity and freshness for old fans of the series. For new fans, well, it’s the same old excellence of LotGH with a new lick of paint. If you’re a new viewer who hasn’t watched it yet, I wholeheartedly recommend you do and finally find out what we fans have been gushing about (some people are of the opinion this new series isn’t a good starting point - I disagree, I actually think this is probably the version of GinEiDen that is easiest to ease yourself into the story and characters).
I’ve chosen to give a rating of 9. Now, I should say that the content on its own deserves in my view somewhere from a high 8 to a low 9, I’ve chosen to go with a 9 here though to represent that this page could be the first port of call for a new viewer and that the story will get even better later.
I think it’s a good sign that I’d like to see this adaptation cover the full story. Director Tada Shunsuke took on quite the undertaking in adapting something already beloved by many (myself included) that already has a fantastic adaptation - trying to make a product that did not alienate older fans, but modernized the story enough to gain new ones.
Given that Die Neue These only covers a small part of the full story that is Legend of the Galactic Heroes, it’s hard to review. It’s a bit like trying to judge a Lord of the Rings adaptation when the hobbits haven’t even gotten
to Rivendell yet. LOTGH builds on itself more than most material anime adapts and a lot of the early stuff is just laying the groundwork for what comes later. Even so, this set of 12 episodes are meant to stand on their own as part one, and so I’ll digress.
LOTGH is (probably) the most epic story anime has ever adapted. The world building and attention to realism, history, and detail are on a scale most anime don’t even come close to. It also ignores most anime tropes and is plotted more like a traditional novel than most anime. So when a remake was announced, I was cautiously excited, wondering how much they’d change certain aspects to make the storytelling more in-line with modern anime.
My fears that Die Neue These would favor style over substance in order to satisfy a more “modern” audience - that isn’t credited with having the patience to sit through battle strategy or political discussions - were unfounded. I’m sure there are people out there who will nitpick and point out every little detail DNT left out, but overall it stuck with LOTGH’s strong sense of realism and detail that many other stories ignore for the sake of drama.
While LOTGH’s penchant for realism and discussions is one aspect that sets it apart from other stories and endears its fans, it can comes across as dry and boring to some audiences. I don’t think DNT did anything to “spice up” the drier parts of LOTGH’s storytelling. If anything, the initial episode and last few seem to drag its feet in places in order to cut the story off in certain places. I was always entertained because I love this kind of detail, and I already love the story and characters, but if the original OVA or light novel series bored you, I don’t think DNT did much to change that for better (in my opinion) or worse.
Politics and battle strategy isn’t the only place DNT stayed true to the original material. It stuck to the original light novels almost religiously, including pieces and details the OVA ignored or left out - including Yang Wen-li’s backstory (a much appreciated addition).
All this is great, but it’s hard to invest in a story when you don’t care about what happens to the cast. Thankfully, this isn’t a problem for LOTGH: DNT. To be fair, they had a great cast to work with, all they had to do was not screw it up. While the facial expressions don’t portray the same range of emotion I would’ve liked, the voice acting choices (for the sub at least) were well chosen. While the characterization could’ve been better, the production crew gave us far more than the bare minimum and remembered to include the little details and bigger personality traits (without overdoing it or turning characters into caricatures of their other selves) that help the LOTGH cast sit heads and shoulders above most anime casts in terms of depth.
Not everything worked out well though. The flashier, shiner look and character design might be the standard modern anime aesthetic, but it doesn’t suit the more gritty, realistic story that is LOTGH all that well. It looks great on the spaceships, and the battles and background shots looked fantastic, but overall look and feel (and especially with the characters) look far too shiny and pretty for a world that is everything but (Reinhard aside ;).
The soundtrack could’ve been better. This critique is partly the OVA’s fault - as the original adaptation opted to use nearly exclusively classic works - which added a lot to the epic scale and feel of the story. So it’s not that DNT’s OST is bad, just kind of there. I’m sure there’s a handful of good songs on it, but it didn’t enhance DNT the same way the OST did for the OVA.
Also, as mentioned earlier, DNT seemed to drag in parts because it wanted to cut episodes off at certain points and needed to find ways to fill in the rest of the episode in order to reach that goal.
Overall, I think this a great adaptation and want to see it run through the entire story. But I find myself asking if DNT succeeded in its goal of attracting a new audience and if it really did anything that the OVA didn’t do as good or better. Still, it’s a solid adaptation that stayed true to what makes LOTGH so great with an obvious amount of care and consideration put into every aspect of the story, and I’d really, really like to see more.
A good point to start a ginga eiyuu densetsu (named as logh from now for brevity sake) review is the questioning on why the lives of powerful people are just so fascinating? Where does this amazing interest comes from in seeing generals, emperors, dictators, enacting strings of power, intrigue, tragedy. In following the lives and death of individual with such ambition, chosen to change the destiny and history of people, societies, worlds. Such allure comes from way more than the facts being actually being shown, Rubinsky discussing his plans becomes way more than a character we know barely nothing about, explaining his ambitions, and Job
Truniht announcing a single vote, becomes the most epic thing ever. In my opinion this feeling is at the heart of the appeal in series such as game of thrones, house of cards, heck half of code geass popularity can be traced to how it taps into the same aspect. One of actually feeling like what we are experiencing is some extensive mind game, truly clever battle between those in power. You can actually slate it everywhere, by doing so with a minimal quality, your show can put up an air of sophistication, self-importance. Logh is probably the series that taps the most into said appeal, take the examples I said above, Rubisnky speech means very little in terms of his relevance as a character, but by making it all connect to a web, a system of power surrounding several major players, it gains a whole new importance. It ingeniously connects and gives meaning to the mundane, making it all part of a big machine, a gigantic game for dominance between truly powerful individuals. Nevertheless, it never ends up feeling like a ruse, simply an air of pretension, because of having the study of power and its implications takes central stage in this narrative, and the political intrigue being spectacularly well handled. In this analysis I will try to look to several key aspects of this show, in trying to give some insight to its flaws and merits. Comparisons to its older (and superior) version in the 1988 ovas will not be absent, but will not be the focus of the text. As always (sadly, apparently I still have to say this) there will be spoilers in the review (happy now?).
At the core LOGH is the story of the ascension to prominence of two young individuals, Yang and Reinhard. Yang is particular is really hard to define when looking to some of his attributes. Because of being marked by contrasting characteristics, a pacifist that acts as the brightest and most successful admiral in the history of the free planets alliance. An idealist, always thinking and talking of the world as it should be, instead of how it is, but always keeps his actions, to a degree of enviable practicality. A historian at heart, with the eyes firmly at the past, but usually against his will is forced to create and become a part of history, in deciding the key events that change the fate of nations. The freedom of thinking and acid critic he enacts, being directly against the strict dogmatism and value of authority, which makes the organization he is in, the army, in pretty all its occurrences. A humble man always doubting his own judgement and the paths he chooses, while getting forced to make the most important decisions imaginable. Which give a lot of understanding to his passive aggressive nature, that some find off-putting. It comes from a place of never getting your wishes achieved or listened to, and having your own existence to be about following other people dreams and illusions. He in effect knows the problems and defects in society better than everyone, but finds himself unable and unwilling to do something about it. As Yang does not believe, he has the right to do so. Onto him, you can find the maximum ideals of democracy represented. No matter how Yang personally can disagree, find an order stupid or preposterous, they come off as absolute to him. Because they come from the system, are issued by the elected representatives of the people, the only ones capable of exerting sovereignty through the popular vote, there is no room for not obeying here. One of the more general conceits of democracy is to exert control not only on the ends, the objective society’s wants, but on the means, the way to get there. A single instance illustrates this perfectly and is the apotheoses of what the character stands for (spoilers for the freaking OVA). When faced with a golden opportunity, a way to destroy the leader of the galactic empire, in effect saving the free planet alliance, the ultimate goal anyone on the country could advocate for, he does not act. Instead he obeys an order of cease fire, which would most certainly doom the country, because regardless of how justified the ends may be, they are only as righteous as their means. The correct ways and means for acting, make the correct goals in a democratic society, and Yang express the full extension of that, with a single decision. A general humanism also marks the character, human lives are never tools to be played with, used to achieve superiority or tactical advantages. Instead he makes them the goal, saving and ensuring the lives of as many people he can, is the modus operandi and tactic for Yang. Satisfaction of the individual can be traced as main ideological objective for most modern democracy, and for putting those in the forefront it helps to drives this point, something that paradoxically his government completely forgot, amidst its nationalistic ideals.
As a contrasting figure (not as good though) we have Reinhard. Looking at his worries with efficiency and results gives great insight into the character. Unlike Yang, those are the major things he cares about, his conflict with the nobles does not come from a moral rejection from the awful things they enact, since he is willing to go to the same lengths, but from how they lack the capacity to rule, a complete inefficiency in doing so. Instead of worrying with methods the results are absolute to him. His justification to strive for power, to think as righteous in ruling over others, is a believed conceit of being actually superior, he has the best talent and knowledge, can bring results no one else can. Reinhard is entitled to issue orders, to become a supreme ruler of the galaxy, because of being in effect the best man. Yes, he is this kind of conceited, egotistical brat. Where to someone else with more abilities to appear, he would be right to challenge and attempt to rule as well. His ideology is born from an idea of putting the capacity to decide, and actually solving the issues as main goals, the justification of a government. Despite bizarrely never taking such ideas to its logical conclusion, since those are encapsulated by his subordinate, Oberstein. There are hints of romanticism, a valorization of a fair fight and some general ethical ideals (as hypocritical as they come), which never allows him to do so. Both the in history parallel with the Rudolf dictatorship and the historical parallel with the Nazi regime are also pertinent here. In either, you can see the same worries with efficiency, the debates and democratic system, the individual liberties were silenced, to allow for greater decidability. In the name of efficiency and nebulous goals, any form of control of a government acts were dropped, which gave birth to a catastrophe that killed millions. They give a certain air of terror to young Reinhard’s ascension, since the audience is never sure he will not fall to the same pitfalls, become a similar monster in another display of history ever repeating cycle.
To be fair, the focus on powerful people also makes for what I believe is LOGH greatest flaw. In displaying a fascination with history, it becomes very clear what kind of history is attempted to be portrayed here, the one focused on individuals, great names and figures, that eclipse everything else and mold its run. This universe seems to be inhabited, by barely anyone else but those in power. How many foot soldiers, the unknowns, with names forgotten by time, that actually fight and act in wars did we follow on this narrative? Very little and their appearances barely have an impact, or much relevance only being tools to represent the horrors of war (cutting 90% of Poplan and his group scenes and relevance is like the dumbest creative decision they could take). With the only moment you could argue otherwise is the Schenkopp sequence on Iserlohn (isn`t he also a really high level commander though?). This leads to a weirdly impersonal way of combat, where the things that matter are the commander plans (those little graphics of fleets are more relevant than any foot soldier), rather than the reality of the people amidst the battle. This is really far from the ideal, not allowing to get a full grasp of what is happening, the full magnitude of the massacres displayed before our eyes. The maximum you can get of that, is brief glimpse of unknowns getting tricked and killed in a flash, so hooray for giving a dawn.
Though it could be argued, it makes up for everything I said above, with the sheer scope of what is being attempted. The scale of the developing narrative is something very rarely reproduced in fiction, most important plot beats give this sense of grandness something really epic happening. Most twists and turns matter a lot, seem to change and mold the mere fabric of this universe, its long standing history. The takeover of the greatest fortress and the largest invasion force ever seen, being great examples of that, giving the sense we can merely grasp the magnitude of what is occurring. Despite this season still presenting a really straightforward, and simple republican x empire conflict. Most of the major players, which will make for a way more multifaceted, complex struggle were merely introduced like Oberstein, Trunhilt, Reuenthal, the nobles, Rubinky. Which is when LOGH actually comes to shine, with lots of interesting well developed character, each moving their own political and personal agendas, making for a way more engaging and developed conflict. Nevertheless, the seeds of it all can be traced here, and this quality of the narrative can be perceived really early on (not that the animation does much to capitalize on this, but whatever).
There is also a long standing issue I have with the way it presents some antagonistic characters (calling for villains in this narrative I kind of hard). The show has kind of an attitude of trying really hard with those, to the point they are fleshed out, bring meaningful and well developed ideological and personal conflicts, or not all with some that have absolutely nothing going for them. The series is infamous for the stupidity of some of its cast and for good reasons. The sheer idiocy they manage to achieve is kind of hard to describe. An apt comparison would be to say they are a lot like the antagonist in the famous anime series Akame Ga Kill, shallow, idiotic mass murders. You can see the type whenever there is an admiral which usually hits his subordinates a lot, or is really eager to meaningless die by sacrificing his entire fleet for a warrior’s pride or bullshit like that. They have this really exaggerated and hard to take serious personality, and make the dumbest decisions possible in the face of battle. Having these over the top personalities would be not of an issue in of itself, the problem is they really lack variety in their madness, usually displaying a really boring monotone mindset and actions. Like the most different of those is the proclaimed rival of Yang, and only because of hiding his own stupidity in a lot of empty rhetoric. And they also never create, are the source for interesting conflict, or really add anything of value to the overall narrative. They represent worthless obstacles, which our protagonists surpass with ease, and to show how fucking awesome they are supposed to be. It’s like having everybody to say this is not enough already, we have to nerf everybody else for them to look even better.
On a better note, the pacing which was the long standing fear of the franchise fans was not much of an issue here. It is a bit more rushed than the older version, but tells mostly the same events just fine. That is until the last episode, which finds to be a good idea to rush as fuck some key narrative elements. What is supposed to be happening is not really easy to understand, much less to engage and feel the impact of certain events. I swear, I would not be bringing this up as a flaw, if it was for the sake of amounting to a satisfying end note for some narrative threads. Which is completely not the case, the story stops in the middle of the conflict, leaving us in one of the more insulting cliffhangers endings (or as I like to call them, fuck you finales) I have ever seen. So well done guys, you almost made it, but fucked in the last possible moment.
Being frank, I was also really not a fan of the character designs, pretty noticeably the ones that changed drastically from the old OVA. They took one of the titles with more varied and iconic character designs in the medium (like frankly there no two individuals with the same, from the hundreds in Ova’s cast) and turned the main ones into generic bishounens. A weird case where you can find the importance of the character being inversely proportional to how generic they are designed.
A way larger problem comes with the way the empire is represented in this series. A huge part of the appeal of the older series, was how the conflict was rather ambiguous, with no clear good and bad guys (in some instances). This quality is lost when you have such a great focus on the alliance side though. It is kind of hard to argue the imperial side is not being represented as a villain in this particular narrative. The aesthetical way they presented pretty much says so, they enact morally reprehensible acts, which barely anyone in the free planets alliance does. And not much happens on their side of thigs, sure Reinhard and Kircheis get some development and are represented in a more sympathetic light, but this makes them closer to understandable complex villains than anything else. Not sure how to fix this though, most of the important events in this part of the novel and 1988 OVA are happening in the alliance’s side, to the point if they stopped at this point, they would have the same issue. So here is just a wish that they fix this on later seasons, movies, getting to the point where the galactic empire is more meaningfully fleshed and becomes way more than the adversary, because so far that is not really the case.
An utmost understated quality LOGH always had is how it always have known how to bring out the fun. In such a serious looking narrative, encompassing a war epic with lots of mature themes, this may come as a surprise to some (there are no characters staring blankly for hours while no dialogue happens, making for a boring pseudo contemplative tone here). This narrative contains elements of pulpy ridiculous violence, when we have soldiers actually fighting hand to hand with hammers, axes and the sorts, and this being the decisive factor in space warfare (can you think of something more ridiculous and awesome than that?). There are also the really cheesy melodramatic speeches, and character deaths culminating on those over the top displays of their lives and paths, the really hammy exaggerated villains (okay those were always lame). These are funny additions to the narrative and help to showcase how you are actually allowed to have fun, and portray some ridiculous shit in such a serious narrative. Which comes off as a shame, because those were mostly absent in the remakes narrative so far.
So does this new anime deserve a ludicrous title of savior of anime, because of its amazing quality? Hell no. Is it a worthy successor to the original 1988 OVA? Not quite. However, it is a thematically interesting experiment, with (emphasis on some) great characters, and elements that are hard to find elsewhere. I am definitely interested to see how they can further develop this in movies, and in what our galactic heroes will do next. If you have an interest in history though, just do yourself a favor and watch it, the fascination this series has with this topic is impalpable, and can be seen though several parallels, references and just the general story.
This adaptation has been overlooked and frowned upon by many, but as someone who finished 110 ova (my fault is that i never finished other things in the series) I understand the disappointment other people feel when it comes to their designs, but let me tell you something. As someone who has also read the books - the actual original source, their appearances fit more into those categories. Not to mention most of them look the same age because they are, and there is not much change between 25-35.
Anyway, back to the story. For those who haven't seen first adaptation, you can watch it
without any problems. It takes it's time to introduce characters - just like the novels - unlike OVA who was made for the people who were already familiar with novels and wanted to introduce everyone as soon as possible.
In the first four episodes you can see that already first 3 chapters are adapted, and even while they don't follow word for word either, they are making a really good job at adapting it. In the end they adapted first novel very well, while still adding and changing some minor bits.
3D designs for the ships are spot on and you quickly get used to it. Battles are made even more interesting with stunning music by Sawano Hiroyuki, known for their many gorgeous instrumental works, and it fits as a good replacement for the classical music that was done in the OVA. Music is gorgeous but instead of being diverse, it feels like they used only three to four tracks in all of the series.
But, it lacks originality on ship diversity as was the fact in OVA version. There were distinguished cruisers, carriers and ships of the commanders. These are not really that much distinguished.
They are introducing characters slowly and steadily, by incorporating them in the flashbacks episodes (For example, Jessica, Jean and Alex (and Frederica) were introduced during the flashback of Yang Wen Li, and it doesn't come as big info dump.)
Once you get past the "kuroko no basket team is producing this" and calling the OVA original source and conveniently forgetting that novels are the material everything is based on, take a look around and try to enjoy this. It's not a remake, and see it for what it is - a completely new adaptation that follows novels as closely as they can.
TL;DR = for the new commers to the franchise, I recommend it.
To the old fans, consider this a new adaptation. It may not live up to the masterpiece that OVA is or it's popularity, but there is hope that this whole series if adapted whole till the end could prove to be excellent.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes: The New Thesis- Encounter is a remake of the 1988 ova series 'Legend of the Galactic Heroes' that spans for 110 episodes and according to people who have read the novel, it is a much more accurate adaption of the original novel series. There are a few things to consider from this information. First of all, the show is a remake and automatically tries to make money of off nostalgia from the old fans as well as gathering new fans for the franchise with use of new technology. Sadly it also suffers from the curse of being a remake. Which
is being compared to the original all the way and getting heavily criticized for every minor thing they change about the show that the old audience likes which also leads people to not being open enough to appreciate the good things the new series adds to the franchise. The other important detail for the new viewers is that it is adapted from a novel series. Basically, it doesn't have the flamboyance and occasionally over the top storytelling of Light Novels. It doesn't have the immediate punch a manga adaption is supposed to deliver. It takes things slowly and spends a lot of time on world building and character development. Details are heavily appreciated and are supposed to be one of the strong points about the series. The presentation is similar to the closest hypothesis of what a day to day life would be if the world building were to be real. There is not much room for a extravagance or over the top entertainment. This is why an anime adaption of a novel series doesn't easily attract the general audience. Which is why it makes work harder for the remake as it suffers from the same problem. Moreover, the people who appreciated the original series are divided into 2 sections. Ones who like the series and ones who don't. For reasons mentioned above I don't think the new thesis will be a major success and a beloved series among anime fans. With that being said the effort put into this remake did please me. They appointed a very competent group of voice actors for this series. The show seemingly gets a good amount of budget. Most importantly it can introduce a new generation of fans to the original novel and the 1988 ova series. What do I personally think about the show? Well give me Reinhard and Young talking and you don't have to do a whole lot to get me to love the series.
Plot: The series is a space opera with seemingly every day yet thought-provoking political themes. It deals with the ideas and perspectives of autocracy and democracy. What's more is that it can show how insignificant the general people can be when it comes to actual politics. It also shows our perspective on how we are willing to accept anything as long as we can fulfill our basic needs The show asks questions about each and every perspective presented in the series. It asks the audience to pick a side early on and tries to show the consequences and flaws of every one of them. But that's a thing for the sequels. The first part of the remake which I'm reviewing is a 12 episode tv series and obviously, it covers very little of the original source material. Hence it is far from being complete. The plot deals with the monarchic Galactic Empire and the democratic Free Planets Alliance embroiling in a never-ending war. The story focuses on the journey of our 2 lead characters Reinhard Von Lohengramm of the Galactic Empire and Yang Wen-Li of the free planets alliance. The 2 characters who are almost polar opposite of each other are the best strategists of their respective military forces. We see individual episodes focusing on the story and ideas built around either Yang's or Reinhard's characters. The plot doesn't really take off in this particular part of the remake and they focus more on introducing the characters and introducing us to the world building.
While strategy plays an important role in the series, it's purpose is more or less to tell you how smart our lead characters are. It's written in the 80's by a student with very limited resources on military strategy and is strongly influenced by history. This is something I assumed because Yang's strategical knowledge is influenced by his own study of history. Since the show tries to portray the dominance of the Galactic Empire and helplessness of the Free planets alliance very early it can be assumed that it also tries to justify the stupidity of most of the other military personnel. Naturally, since the Galactic Empire didn't have any competition they never really needed to hone their basic strategic game. The free planets alliance is a mess from the inside and hence a lot of the military is driven by the intention of climbing up the ladder somehow and is presented as arrogant since they didn't have a reason to truly care for a system that didn't care about them. A lot of people will try to overhype the strategical influence which leads people often being disappointed about the series. I truly want people to love this series and hence warning everyone beforehand to not pay attention to them.
Sound: The opening of the this series 'Binary Star' is very very nice and I also love the ending theme. But can't say the same for all the soundtracks. With that being said, the content the show offers doesn't need a lot of support from the soundtrack as long as they don't ruin it by overplaying the soundtrack.
Characters: The characters are the strongest point of this show and I love almost every single one of the major plot players. Yang and Reinhard both fall within my fav 5 characters anime has given me. While there is still a lot to come from them I'm very much satisfied with what I've been given in this span of 12 episodes. I absolutely love the political angles of the free planets alliance and their characters are as much of a scum as our leaders in the real world.
Art; The character arts eventually grew on me. It was something I was initially worried about but I took a liking to most of them. Most people in their 20s and 30s look the same but that's not very different from what we have in real life. The space battle CGI has been kind of problematic but it has only improved since a horrible first episode.
Enjoyment: I hated the first episode and it didn't help after a subtitle error of Yang saying "I will not lose". They fix this after the first episode and since then this show has been nothing short of a gem if I talk about the usual anime standards. I absolutely love the series and while there's a lot more work yet to be done I can enjoy what has been given to me for now.
Conclusion; Watch this for sure if slow-paced storytelling and character development doesn't bother you.
As a newcomer to the series I watched first 3 episodes of the OVA then I switched to this remake. I can understand why people say original series is a masterpiece but I think this remake is greatly underestimated.
In my opinion it has superior voice acting, character design, composition, sound effects and of course visuals. Since it is a remake you should expect all this but it is all done so masterfully that I found myself enjoying the remake more than the original (witch I continued to watch until episode 8).
And then there is obvious use of CGI which is so good it adds
tons to the experience instead of taking anime feel away.
Finding out there's an english dub of the new Legend of the Galactic Heroes anime has finally got me to watch the series in it's entirety. I know, unpopular opinion, but I tend to prefer english dubs over the Japanese originals, cause why not.
So about the series. Everything is technically there, it covers the first book in the novel series, which mostly serves as a set-up to the rest of the story. We get to know Yang Wen-li and Reinhard von Lohengram, who are both enticing characters and serve as a good contrast of major actors in the war between the Free Planets Alliance and
The ups of the show are, that the world-building is there, the main characters are established finely and the initial skirmishes between the Free Planets Alliance and the Empire are interesting and fairly enough sharper-looking and more action-packed, than the rigid old-school animation of the original series.
I also get a kick out of the odd pronounciation of german names. Most notably Siegfried Kircheis. Originaly his last name comes from Kirche (Church), which pronounces with an (x), but I guess the translators with their english phonetical systems have associated the character more with Kirsche (cherry) and decided to rename him into Kirscheis -> Kir-Scheiß. Scheiße is german for sh*t, childish I know.
The downs are mostly related to how short the series is and how it doesn't cover the more exciting parts of the whole story yet. Various characters get introduced, but don't serve as much more than fan-service for the fans of the franchise to recognize them, since their stories are still far from being told at this point. I'm also not the biggest fan of the aesthetic choices in this. The bishounen artstyle is of course a no-brainer given the anime-times we are in, but just isn't how I would prefer for the characters to look like (In all fairness a lot of the characters looked pretty feminine in the original series as well). The soundtrack is a bit of a step-down as well, most notably I am no fan of the opening, which sounds oddly similair to Starship's "We Can Build This Dream Together" to me. The english voice acting was mostly good, I was a bit bothered by Frederica Greenhill though. Her voice had a pleasant sound and I'm sure the voice actress can do good in other roles, but she seemed kind of stiff in this.
Ultimately, it's a competent product, but I would still recommend just watching the old version over this.
Did you come here for GALACTIC HEROES? Well get ready for a full two of them, because everyone else in this show is seemingly incompetent!
Welcome to "Military Space Politics - The Anime!"
I understood what the show was trying to do in the beginning. It started off with a good opening battle, and then pushed out all the backstory so that it could focus on the WAR in the end. But just because it's understandable doesn't mean it's a good way of telling a story. The story was actually the WORST part of this anime. It was just.. mediocre. The beginning was way too
slow and progressed in this most BASIC way possible, solely relying on the nice art and -anticipation- of "EPIC" space battles to keep the viewers interested. Perhaps the beginning would've been more interesting if it was fleshed out, and a proper amount of time was spent building up an enjoyable cast of characters... But that's not what this anime did. The whole thing felt rushed, which makes sense because this should've been a 24 episode anime at least.
Thanks to the rushed story-line, and just some bad writing, the only really likeable characters are the two main protagonists. All the other characters exist ONLY to further the protagonists' story-lines. The other characters have no real depth to themselves. You don't feel for them at all. You feel even LESS, somehow, for the cast of basic stock characters that get slaughtered in huge space battles. In my humble opinion, the anime would've meant so much more if it spent time building up each general similar stories, such as Kingdom, tend to do.
Taking a break from the story for a second: the art in this anime is rather good, and it's the main reason why I wanted to watch this instead of the ancient OVA that people go on in praise about. The sound is also rather good, and I especially enjoy the opening.
Now! Back to the story:
The latter half of the anime was a major disappointment. I figured the beginning would pay off, since they at least got all the backstory out of the way so they could focus on some cool space battles and strategies -- but that isn't what they do. Instead, they dedicate most of this anime's run-time to politics and mostly pointless talking. The high command, on both sides, is so hilariously dumb you wonder how they even got into their positions in the first place. Prepare to feel aggravated when no one listens to the basic logic from the protagonist, and instead goes with a screaming maniac who literally seizures randomly when he gets frustrated. Seriously, there is no justification for the guy being in the military.
After watching politics for 80% of the anime, you finally get the big hyped up space battle in the final episode of the anime... kinda. In reality, you only get part of it because it ends on a cliffhanger. Even in the final episode, most of the time is spent on everything BUT cool strategies and tactics. There are a few CGI space battles, talking between characters that you don't care about, politics, and then... Possibly three total minutes of the content you'd actually expect from this anime.
Overall this anime was a complete disappointment. I rated it 5 (which is rather low for my standards, as a 7 is supposed to be average for me) because it did have some good qualities, and I REALLY wanted to like it, but unfortunately it just didn't come through. Hopefully next season is better, if they manage to produce one.
If there is no season two, do NOT watch this anime!
Story - 5
Characters - 5
Audio - 9
Visuals - 9
Personal enjoyment - 10
Legend of the Galactic Heroes is a much praised series, and the praise is well-deserved. Having spent 110 episodes (excluding 50+ episodes worth of prequels + some movies) on introducing, establishing and developing its characters, its world, customs and politics, LotGH truly is outstanding.
Enter 'Die Neue These'. Enjoyment? For me, a 10/10 easily. But this is not an alternative version, a prequel, a sequel or a summary. This is a stand-alone piece of literature, a retelling of the same story.
The upsides? A nice way to refresh your memories of the OVA, topped with spectacular
The downside? You pretty much have to have watched LotGH beforehand to be able to truly appreciate 'Die Neue These', because it takes no time to introduce characters, skip many of them in fact, as well as character development of the few it introduces, and it skips much of the politics and world building also. It's rushed into mediocrity, its only saving grace being that most of us have probably seen the OVA and so we can relatively easily fill in the gaps using memories of a show that did take its time to make us know and love it all, thus giving us the illusion of greatness. But judging this show as it is, as a stand-alone piece of literature, in and of itself? The story and the characters, the two factors that made LotGH so good, are average at the very best, which makes the show itself average. Art and sound be damned, they're a good bonus to have, but they do not substitute characters and story, not in literature.
I'd suggest it to anyone who watched and liked the OVA, it's nice to have, but anyone who didn't (yet) see OVA should stay away from it and watch that first. Or better yet, start with the prequels and watch it in chronological order.
The reason this show was not successful is not because it was bad. Personally, I actually enjoyed it and would recommend it to people if the original did not exist. But it does. And to make a long story short, this show is just a slightly inferior version of the original.
What made this show unsuccessful was the conceptual planning of the show as a remake and certain creative choices by Production IG.
See, the problem in remaking the first 12 episodes in Legend of the Galactic Heroes is that these episodes are objectively the least interesting and eventful part in the show. They quite literally took
the worst part of the show and made it into a series. I get the feeling that if this remake had been a COMPLETE remake of the entire original series, by the end of its run we would have a very different opinion of the remake as a standalone piece due to it giving us time to get used to its own style and actually letting it get into the parts of Legend of the Galactic Heroes that make it so fucking good. Think about how much you would've liked the original if only the first 12 episodes existed. I would probably argue that (while much more subtle) it is less entertaining than this version. You can argue about which you prefer all you want, but the fact of the matter is, the original is 110 episodes and this is 12. For what this had to work with, it did a good job. The problem is that it just didn't have the best source material to work with. So this show only gets kudos, no actual bonus points.
Production IG has a very distinct style in almost all of their shows. It's a sleek, clean, modern look that carries through into this LotGH remake. The problem with that style is that it just doesn't fit the story of Legend of the Galactic Heroes. This is a political war drama, not a military battle show with some politics and philosophy sprinkled in. The main problem is that they tried to infuse their style on an already established franchise and story, which caused a clash between what we are used to vs what we are being given. People don't like change. Regardless of psychological tendencies, the character designs (which is the main subject of complaint for most fans of the original) are truly bad. They took the elegant bourgeois designs of the Empire and the distinguished and serious designs of the Alliance and just made them so generic and uninteresting. Also going back to what I said about Production IG's style earlier, Reinhardt and Yang Wenli both had appearances that matched their personalities in the original, yet in this they looked like an imitation of an already established design, with nothing new added to them. This causes a dissonance that is hard to ignore.
TLDR: The style of Production IG clashes with the story it's trying to tell. The quiet, methodical subtlety of the original does so much more to build to an ultimate climax than this could.
I will say though, Production IG did get one thing right. Remakes almost always fail because they try to make it new without changing anything about the events that take place or the story of the original. Successful adaptations all have various creative liberties taken in order to ensure that whatever is being made is actually good as it is on its own, not just a copycat product. They really used the increase in animation quality to make the battles much better and the technology used in the show so much more futuristic and cool. They also moved away from what the original had done story-wise to add their own twists, which is something I actually appreciated. I already watched the original, I don't need to see the same events play out in the same order they did last time, show me something new. The best example of this is the capture of Iserlohn. While the main concept remained the same, the execution was different enough that it still excited me despite me having already seen it before.
All in all, this was a good show, but it wasn't great. The reason it was good is because the story it was based off of is good. It didn't take enough risks and it didn't adapt a complete enough version of the source to make it a standalone piece that I would recommend to anyone. However, that is not to say that this is a piece of trash.
I did not read the original novel or watched the OVA from the late 80s, but I heard a lot of praise for those works, as Legend of the Galactic Heroes (LotGH) is apparently one of the greatest anime of all time. Now, in 2018, we got a new take on this hot classic property and I thought it would be a perfect entry point for me.
It is hard to find any value in this anime: characters are not interesting to pull all the attention; action is dull; mind games are weak; depiction of war lacks necessary authenticity or meaningful commentary; rivalry is done better
in any shounen anime. Where is the epos I heard so much about?
RATING: 3 – Bad
STORY: “Legend of the Galactic Heroes” - except every word is a lie.
“Legend” is an overstatement in association with events in this show. Yes, we see a greater scope of corrupt and egoistic governments mismanaging countries, disillusioned about their dependence on permanent state of war. However, (unintentional?) bad writing coupled with serious delivery tanks any credibility as social commentary as well as a parody.
“Galactic” does not serve the setting any justice, because the show lacks sci-fi vision. Technological progress is present only in military tools; everyday tech, clothing or architecture are frozen in time. It seems like society structures also did not evolve despite new hurdles, like administration of multiple planets; on the contrary, the society even degraded back in case of the Empire. Furthermore, warfare is executed with practices from Napoleon wars: huge armies stand before each other and trade losses or undertake a head on charge, which is sold as strategic masterpiece. Considering war is one of the major themes, the presentation is disappointing or even laughable. Just let it take place in 17th century with stupidity in commando tents and on the battlefield. The show simply does not explore potential of its own setting.
“Heroes” implies there are individuals, who excel above the masses. However, there are no such characters in this show. Wen and Reinhard are considered strategic prodigies, yet their skill is just an illusion, created by comparing those two with utterly incompetent and/or mentally challenged side characters, whose sole purpose is to make the supposed heroes look good. As one example look at Commodore Falk. The show simply fails to build up genuinely smart lead characters.
There are even more issues, like blatant introduction scenes and info dumps. The later ones are sometimes incomplete, like the world-building attempt in ep 3, which explains the history behind the conflict between Empire and Alliance, yet does not mention the 3rd faction. Where did they come from?
“Anecdotes of the Unimaginative Fakes” would be an appropriate title.
CHARACTERS: No bonds, no motivations, no characters.
The main characters are Reinhard, on the side of the Empire, and Wen on the side of the Alliance. In their environment, those two are considered strategic prodigies, as repeated ad nauseam on multiple occasions. Wen acquired his skills by reading history books, whereas Reinhard is a natural, I guess, because the show never bothers to show his development.
Should Wen’s character be close to source material, it would make him grandfather of all lazy and laid back attitude main characters infesting today’s light novels. Occasionally he will make a smart comment on events or dumb speeches, however his words are directed more towards the viewer and not his environment, thus have little narrative impact and serve as moral guideline for the viewer, which further devalues this character.
Reinhard is an ambitious smug with hatred towards the Empire because…I actually don’t know. How is it not an honor, but disgrace, for his sister to be Emperor’s wife? What are those motivations?
Support characters also got a budget treatment; relationships are clearly defined in dedicated introduction scenes, however there is no time to reinforce those bonds, so that in the end you know who they are but you do not care about them. “Wen’s little slave is cleaning the house and cooking meals again? Oh, it’s his adopted son. Didn’t notice that.”
ART & ANIMATIONS: talking heads; Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V ships.
LftGH 2018 is bland: bland character designs, bland ship designs, bland backgrounds, everything is bland. Animation did not strain the budget either, because there is not much to animate in a dialogue heavy show. Around episode 10 the overall quality takes a major dip with off model characters and horrible gray backgrounds.
Space battles are boring and void of any energy or tension: all you see are copy & paste CGI ships trading red or blue laser beams left and right. Expect to get zero visual entertainment. Fast-paced battles between small fighters, as you can witness in the OP, are rare and not impressive.
Music, especially the OP, is way better than the show deserves and is the only positive remark I can make. Original voice act runs into serious troubles pronouncing overabundance of western names; professionals should show more expertize on their field.