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|moomoonya1 | 05-19-13, 9:33 PM
Alright, since you don't seem to understand, yes Inuyasha is no the most original story out there. But if you look closely, and i will say it AGAIN, Kamisama has TOO many similarities with Inuyasha. I get the whole, "It inspired me" thing. that's ONE thing. But taking multiple things is another. Inspired would be you coming up with most of the ideas. Not taking it from something else and rehashing it your own way. It doesn't work like that. What if i took ideas from Fullmetal Alchemist? I would definitely get called out for that, because it's an original story, other than the alchemy part.
Okay, you commented on Kagome's school uniform, yes i agree, BUT. here it comes; Would you have time to change into clothes that fit the era you're in?
"Oh, people are getting eaten by demons? let me just change into my priestess outfit."
Key words: The ERA she TIME TRAVELED TO.
Do you know the era Nanami traveled to? The Feudal Era. Because she went about 500 years into the past.
Do you know the era Kagome traveled to? The Feudal Era. Because she went about 500 years into the past.
I've listed all the things they have in common, and it's more than 10 things.
Like i said, inspired and copying are very different.
And Kagome doesn't think about marriage. She never even mentioned it in the anime or manga. So, yeah cool, Nanami doesn't think about marriage, neither do i. Am i special? The ones i can think of that talk about marriage is Clannad. I've never seen or read an anime/manga that has the main girl talking about marriage. so it's not really anything special. You know what would be special? if the main girl didn't fall in love with the main dude because the story says she has to.
since this is a battle of opinions now, let's just end it here.
|witchhuntress | 05-16-13, 12:00 PM
@moomoonya: Yes, Kagome practiced the bow and arrow, and it is expected that she'll have the stamina with all the traveling she's been doing. If you meant physically, yes she might be stronger, for Nanami doesn't really train physically as much.
Nanami's strength is mental. Kagome is strong mentally too, but Nanami seems stronger to her in that field. Nanami might not be good at bows and arrow, but she's not necessarily slow.
Nanami also got stronger in her powers, and that's not something new as character development. Even before Inuyasha existed, those ideas you said that KH "rehashed" has already been done by other manga or anime. Inuyasha is not the main basis of everything that has a demon or human tandem or reincarnation and etc. Nor will I say in all certainty that KH got all its ideas from Inuyasha because that will be too narrow-minded. How can I just assume that Suzuki Julietta doesn't do her research? Or that she copies from Inuyasha because it was published years before KH? I understand that some stories do have similarities because they got inspired by former stories, but there are times that people just had the same idea without even knowing somebody had them beforehand. Of course, you'll say and many will say that Inuyasha is very famous so of course it's obvious that whatever manga that comes published later with similar ideas "copied" its ideas, but I think that's pushing it.
Because it's equating that if there's no Inuyasha, there's no KH either. It's narrowing bases of a story from a story. But really, Suzuki's KH could still exist even without Inuyasha existing beforehand because there are Japanese folktales that could have inspired it.
Now, about Naraku, I do understand his story, but everything he's done does not excuse him.
Yes, the idea of the shikon jewel is unique. Gods are not unique. Demon are not unfamiliar. Miko is not unheard of (to those who know the meaning of the term).
But I don't think KH has more unoriginal ideas than Inuyasha. I think they're about the same actually. Or they will be at least in proportion. KH has not ended yet, so I can't be certain about quantity. But really...there are a lot of unoriginal ideas in Inuyasha more than in KH to me. Not simply looking at how similar it is with KH but how similar it is with other works too.
What I find unique in KH is that Nanami is not as typical as the others. Yes, she's not an archer or a top A student. She's most likely average, but she stands out because her personality is admirable. She's fierce. When somebody tried to do something to her, she does fight back. But most importantly, I find her not wanting to marry someone as unique too because most characters in manga and anywhere have girls who want to get married. Her views might change in the story, but such a development is rare. Also, her arrogance. Nanami is more confident than most of the typical girls. She feels insecure of course, but when she gets wind of whatever it is, she does step up mostly without hesitation. Also, I like the she does use her head. I know that Kagome is intelligent too, but I find it weird that she wears her uniform all the time. It might be her most comfortable outfit...but I guess I just find it better that Nanami started wearing what's appropriate for the era she time traveled to. (Idk if you've read up to ch 95 of KH.)
I would want to point out more stuff that are unique to KH, but I don't want to spoil if you haven't read everything until the latest chapter. Most who came here seemed to have read it, but Idk about you...
I write stories too, and I try to make original plots. Still, there will always be ideas that I think are originally mine but were already thought of by others, most likely not translated in English but could be pointed out later. So in the end, even if there might be debates to the originality of one's work, my work, and others, I think that's not the only basis for a great story. There's the entertainment factor, the writing style, and the storytelling factors. There are a lot of factors of a good story.
|moomoonya1 | 05-15-13, 2:12 PM
I don't really care if someone disagrees with me. I have someone who says Hetalia is stupid, which it isn't.
Kagome is way stronger than Nanami. In the beginning, Kagome literally sucked with the bow and arrow. Even though she was the reincarnation of a master archer, she didn't inherit those skills. She kept building up her stamina, and saving everyone else when they were in trouble.
Not to sound mean, but, you obviously haven't listened closely to Naraku's story.
Kagome literally built up her strength, and almost got herself killed when Inuyasha and Miroku were battling Sesshomaru. She wanted to save Inuyasha. She almost risked her life to save him.
Most of the manga today is rehashed off of something else. The idea of the Shikon Jewel and stuff is pretty original.
A god is not original. Falling in love with a bishounen demon is not original. A familiar is not original. a contract with a demon and human is not original.
Kamisama has more unoriginal things than Inuyasha does. And Kamisama took lots of things from Inuyasha, again, rehash, and no one can come up with an original story anymore. I for one, am working extremely hard to have original plots. And so far, they are more original than most of the manga today.
|witchhuntress | 05-08-13, 3:34 PM
@moomoonya1: I'm sorry to say that I don't read shoujo manga all the time. I have a lot that I have discontinued reading and all because I read other genre too. I am not blind to the development in Inuyasha, but I am not inclined to them. Call me apathetic, but there is something in Inuyasha that I feel so forced. Yeah, Inuyasha has original ideas, but not entirely. ^^
There are twists in stories, and of course, I expect no less from Inuyasha who's had 500+ chapters, 400+ chapters more than Kamisama Hajimemashita. As to Naraku not being "the main antagonist" etc., I'm afraid I am not as impressed. You see, the "it's all shikon jewel's fault" idea is so contrived. It is, sadly, meant to make us think Naraku is not as bad as he seems, but the truth is HE IS BAD. HE IS THE ANTAGONIST no matter how "the shikon jewel is put to blame". And the reason why I say that is that he is, for most part, CONSCIOUS when he decided to kill Sango's relatives. HE IS CONSCIOUS when he did all those "terrible" things. Naraku used shikon as a tool, and it used him back. There is a symbiotic relationship, but Naraku's emotions, his wants overpower the shikon jewel metaphorically. It is him who couldn't control his emotions; the shikon just aided him because its goals collude with it.
But the reason why I give KH more attention is that not only does it have a succinct plot within 100 chapters, it also has a succinct development. I get that Inuyasha's pace can be soooo slow, but really, it took 500+ chapters. But then again, it's me nitpicking.
Why do I like KH's development better? It's because it is evident. Kagome falters a lot. Her strengthening does not seem so evident for me (note "for me"). Nanami's strength, however, I can see clearly. She went from not minding being a god, yet not doing anything, from minding being a god and doing something to be a better god.
Kagome? Yeah, she has her own strengths, she's good at studying, at arrows, etc., but somehow they're not put to good use. I feel like her development is an illusion often times (again that's me).
Anyway, just because I think KH has better development does not mean I just read shoujo manga. My manga list here is not updated, so if you just based my reading genre from that, I'm afraid it's quite a limited list to base your judgment on (and perhaps, my judgment sometimes is too, for I get lazy at doing bg checks of everyone beyond MAL [nor do I fancy the idea]). I read anything far more and darker than shoujo manga, and I do have my reasons why I can say this or that has not that good development.
I'm sorry if I don't think Inuyasha is the greatest, most developed (in characters or plot), and most original manga in the world. ^^ For me, there are a lot better manga than Inuyasha, more original, more developed.
I'm fine with your passion/love for Inuyasha, but sadly, I don't share such. Sorry if it hurts to have someone disagree with you. =.=
|Rimfire | 04-28-13, 7:36 PM
I loooove her work :3
Her style isn't that bad either *u* Since I fell in love wif Tomoe<3
And you guys below me... I came here to read some happy compliments about her LOL and then all of a sudden --- ...
|moomoonya1 | 04-10-13, 9:42 AM
I know, the are tons of demon manga/anime out there. I KNOW THAT. But Inuyasha isn't all about the demons. What other manga/anime do you know with a Shikon Jewel? THAT'S original. Rumiko used the Shinto philosophy to create the Shikon Jewel. Inuyasha is about finding the shards of the Shikon Jewel. Not many anime/manga has a girl who can detect an immensely strong sacred AND demonic aura at the same time, since the Shikon Jewel is neither good nor evil, but they were both constantly fighting inside the Jewel. There are lots of anime/manga with twists. I like when they have twists. And the twists to Inuyasha was that Naraku really wasn't the antagonist. It was the Shikon Jewel who was the main antagonist. Naraku was being used by the Jewel in order to get rid of Kagome and Kikyo. Naraku's wish wasn't selfish like most people would think it would be. It was sad, loving and somewhat heartbreaking that his true wish couldn't come true. All he wanted was for Kikyo to love him. And he couldn't go be with Kikyo even after death. But he finally got peace in the end when the Jewel disappeared. You cannot sit there and tell me that you didn't feel much with the characters of Inuyasha. No character in Kamisama can compare to even Shippo or Rin. *And i don't really like Shippo or Rin, but you can't really hate them. If you think Kamisama has better character development than Inuyasha, i'm sorry to say, but i think you need to take a break from shoujo manga for bit and re-read/re-watch/ OR AT LEAST look at Inuyasha's characters' developments on their wiki pages or any other site.
|witchhuntress | 04-09-13, 10:22 AM
@momoonya: Even before, there are already stories about youkai (e.g.Yu Yu Hakusho), so I can't say Inuyasha is original. I didn't say KH is original either. I compared KH anime to its manga, not Inuyasha to KH in my last post when I meant being fleshed out. The use of Yukiji was for the twist, and they are related. It's all a misunderstanding, but it affected a lot. We get to know how Yukiji really is. I don't know about everyone's development in Inuyasha being great. They weren't for me, and that's just what I think.
|Shiirry | 04-04-13, 11:49 PM
omg Kamisama Hajimemashita IS similar to InuYasha... no wonder I had that idk feeling with the... ears and time-travel thing x'D
I'm glad I read both of them though, it's not like I was reading the same on twice...
Karakuri Odette was a rather interesting take on robots which brought me to her other works ;3
|moomoonya1 | 04-04-13, 8:54 AM
Not to sound mean, but the way you are saying it is that none of the Inuyasha character's relationships were "fleshed out". And Inuyasha and Kikyo's wasn't shown much because Kikyo died, and he fell for Kagome. It shows Kagome and inuyasha's relationship.
Inuyasha IS original. How many other anime/manga can you say that Inuyasha sounds like? Mostly anime feed off of it because it's an older anime. Kamisama isn't as original as it could be. In fact, there are A TON of God anime. I know Nanami isn't Yukiji's reincarnation. But, what's the point of putting a character in there, that looks like the main character, but they aren't related in anyway? EVERYONE'S development in Inuyasha is great. Not to sound mean, but, If you think Inuyasha is recycled,and Kamisama isn't, THINK AGAIN.
|witchhuntress | 04-03-13, 3:46 PM
I understand what Inuyasha and Kikyo went through, but there's something that makes me feel distant about it. I can't point it out. I can't really say that Inuyasha is original because I think that all ideas are similar, and they are just being recycled. ^^ I guess I've read a lot of stories that have similar ideas that I am thinking this way. And btw, Nanami is not Yukiji's reincarnation. ^^ Idk where you are in the manga, but it's implied with the many hints and events that she isn't. Tomoe and Nanami's love is more fleshed out in the manga, and it is paced nicely. Hmm I think what makes me feel distant with Inuyasha and Kikyo is that their interactions are not shown/elaborated much. There are flashbacks and all, but there's something missing in their interactions for me. In KH, there are small details here and there that speaks a lot of their concern and etc. IDK. I really can't say what it is, but I somehow feel more with KH manga. ^^ Sesshoumaru's development though with Rin was the most touching for me in Inuyasha, and well, Sesshy is my fav there along with Rin. ^^