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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- A pleasant episode even though not much happened imo. There's some bath fan-service as well as a little history of the tanks again. Just a relaxing episode imo. Heh, exploring places can be fun occasionally also, especially in the dark. |
Stark700Nov 26, 2012 10:44 AM
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| Certainly a nice episode to kickback and watch. Loved Mako and her faces when they were in the dark. |
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| So the propaganda video is lying about doing tank makes you popular with boys :D Glad they gave more clues about why the school in on ships, although it's like there's still more behind it |
nseikaNov 26, 2012 7:45 PM
| Where are you all getting your episodes from? I cant find ep 7 released anywhere yet :( |
私のホバークラフトはウナギでいっぱいです。 |
| ^watching the raw version of it for now until the subbed ones are released. Nice that there are new tanks and upgrades to PanzerIV for Oarai in order to face Pravda and Black Forest. Glad for them. |
zenjamibuNov 26, 2012 8:40 PM
| I have to learn to stop reading the spoilers, i cant wait |
| 私のホバークラフトはウナギでいっぱいです。 |
| Now they've found new tanks and a upgrade for the PzIV, they'll be a lot more powerful. Looking forward to see it with a better cannon. I'm disappointed that the battle with Anzio were over in a few seoncds. What a waste of Anchovy. |
| Hmm... Didn't they have an instructor ? Why Nishizumi must anwser all their questions ? Where that Ferrari destructor woman go ? |
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| I was hoping to see battle with Anzio, sure result was easy to predict but it would be fun. And upgrade at last - they won't have to go with that ancient weaponry... so they will have great assault gun, one good tank, failed prototype and 2 x ancient weaponry? or at least I hope they will make this change as their old tanks would look rather sad against T-34 |
Saki    Is Saki Maruyama (丸山 紗希) your favorite GaruPan character? Surname: 丸山 = Maruyama. Given name: 紗希 = Saki. She is the loader on the Rabbit Team in the M3 Lee. All of the members of that team are first year students. The M3 Lee has two big guns. The biggest (75 mm) gun is on the side. The 37 mm gun is on the top. Saki loads rounds into the 37 mm gun. The shells are 223 mm long. The maximum rate of fire is 25 rounds per minute. So Saki must be in excellent shape. Some people out there in cyberspace are huge, huge fans of Saki, as you can see from these pictures which show all the times when Saki appears: http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/animestation/imgs/4/e/4efb0809.jpg http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tachiyomi_/imgs/2/7/27165869.jpg http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/animestation/imgs/3/9/39ef368d.jpg http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/p/pema/20121102/20121102161012.jpg http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/p/pema/20121102/20121102161013.jpg I hope you have no trouble clicking to see these images. But if you run into problems, simply cut and paste the URL into another browser and it should work fine! Sorry, but there are some repetitions in case links later get broken. Here is a 7-minute video which is 100% about Saki: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19421772 This next picture is 1362 x 765 pixels: http://i.imgur.com/q9xzS.jpg A great wall poster? Up until this point in the series, she has not spoken a single line. Japanese Wikipedia says that there is no voice actress for her. Even so, let's hope that there will be one episode where she is the main character. |
okanaganNov 27, 2012 1:59 AM
| Pretty sure the Anzio match will be in the manga and/or a BD only episode. In any case, good episode. My guess is that against Pravda the group from the OP that we haven't seen yet will take over the Char B1, Volleyball will use the upgraded PzIV and Team A will use the Tiger. I love that someone finally called one of the historian team girls out on their inaccuracies. |
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| Who are these girls? Is that ever explained? A blog earlier today from the GaruPan director ( Mizushima / 水島努 / @tsuki_akari ) described them as 水産科のセーラー女子 which seems to literally mean "sailor girls who are studying fisheries". But fishermen don't wear sailor suits. Also, giant converted aircraft carriers aren't used as fishing boats. |
okanaganNov 27, 2012 2:14 AM
| ohoh so i was right when i thought it was a tiger :D |
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SayuriUliana said: Well, for anyone asking about how Oarai can possibly compete against Pravda and Black Forest Peak in the upcoming battles, this episode provided the best possible answer. is it confirmed that its the Tiger prototype? |
okanagan said: Saki Is Saki Maruyama (丸山 紗希) your favorite GaruPan character? Surname: 丸山 = Maruyama. Given name: 紗希 = Saki. She is the loader on the Rabbit Team in the M3 Lee. All of the members of that team are first year students. The M3 Lee has two big guns. The biggest (75 mm) gun is on the side. The 37 mm gun is on the top. Saki loads rounds into the 37 mm gun. The shells are 223 mm long. The maximum rate of fire is 25 rounds per minute. So Saki must be in excellent shape. Some people out there in cyberspace are huge, huge fans of Saki, as you can see from these pictures which show all the times when Saki appears: http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/animestation/imgs/4/e/4efb0809.jpg http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tachiyomi_/imgs/2/7/27165869.jpg http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/animestation/imgs/3/9/39ef368d.jpg http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/p/pema/20121102/20121102161012.jpg http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/p/pema/20121102/20121102161013.jpg I hope you have no trouble clicking to see these images. But if you run into problems, simply cut and paste the URL into another browser and it should work fine! Sorry, but there are some repetitions in case links later get broken. Here is a 7-minute video which is 100% about Saki: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19421772 This next picture is 1362 x 765 pixels: http://i.imgur.com/q9xzS.jpg A great wall poster? Up until this point in the series, she has not spoken a single line. Japanese Wikipedia says that there is no voice actress for her. Even so, let's hope that there will be one episode where she is the main character. the girl who stare at tanks |
| ^ Doesn't always stare at tanks, she always looks up most of the time. You can see in episode 7 that when 1st years were lost, the other 1st years are sitting while Saki is standing, and looking up. I don't know why she looks up most of the time thought. |
okanagan said: Saki Is Saki Maruyama (丸山 紗希) your favorite GaruPan character? Surname: 丸山 = Maruyama. Given name: 紗希 = Saki. She is the loader on the Rabbit Team in the M3 Lee. All of the members of that team are first year students. The M3 Lee has two big guns. The biggest (75 mm) gun is on the side. The 37 mm gun is on the top. Saki loads rounds into the 37 mm gun. The shells are 223 mm long. The maximum rate of fire is 25 rounds per minute. So Saki must be in excellent shape. Some people out there in cyberspace are huge, huge fans of Saki, as you can see from these pictures which show all the times when Saki appears: http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/animestation/imgs/4/e/4efb0809.jpg http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tachiyomi_/imgs/2/7/27165869.jpg http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/animestation/imgs/3/9/39ef368d.jpg http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/p/pema/20121102/20121102161012.jpg http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/p/pema/20121102/20121102161013.jpg I hope you have no trouble clicking to see these images. But if you run into problems, simply cut and paste the URL into another browser and it should work fine! Sorry, but there are some repetitions in case links later get broken. Here is a 7-minute video which is 100% about Saki: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19421772 This next picture is 1362 x 765 pixels: http://i.imgur.com/q9xzS.jpg A great wall poster? Up until this point in the series, she has not spoken a single line. Japanese Wikipedia says that there is no voice actress for her. Even so, let's hope that there will be one episode where she is the main character. cool picture, got any group ones of team rabbit? |
| 私のホバークラフトはウナギでいっぱいです。 |
SayuriUliana said: cruiser2710 said: is it confirmed that its the Tiger prototype? Every feature on the tank I can see points to it being the Tiger (P), since it has visible features that the Tiger H (aka the Tiger everyone knows) doesn't have, like the circular ports on the side of the hull along with the side tool placements. It helps that the Tiger (P) had been teased by the official site several weeks back. Here's an official giveout image where you see a Tiger P among the tanks shown (it's to the right of the Churchill). Too dark. Didn't see. Though I screamed Tiger Prototype when I saw the turret Plus I didn't know the existence of that teaser |
| They found some really nice firepower this ep... |
RabbiacNov 27, 2012 4:15 AM
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| When i think about Renault i think about cars not about tanks there's almost nothing on tanks on there Wikipedia page either, so seeing this was pretty surprising. That canon the found didn't appear to be part of the first tank they found and the second tank they found already had a canon. So i wonder if they will find the tank which that canon belonged to. Judging from the song they played at the second tank it's most likely a powerful one don't know what the song is called but it was often played in old war movies when something powerful was shown. Mako's grandmother was pretty funny tho very strict and her way of not showing much care is similar to that of Mako herself especially when she mentioned that they would be bad if they hadn't made it to the first round. She was also a very stubborn woman wanting to leave the hospital as fast as possible to go back home. And it also explained the situation with Mako's family losing them when she was little and to make things worse they had a fight just before her mothers death. It also showed some of Miho's circumstances her mother is also very strict and she was even willing to sacrifice her students for victory. I think Miho made the right decision trying to save the girls in the tank that fell in the river. |
AversaNov 27, 2012 7:03 AM
SayuriUliana said: cruiser2710 said: is it confirmed that its the Tiger prototype? Every feature on the tank I can see points to it being the Tiger (P), since it has visible features that the Tiger H (aka the Tiger everyone knows) doesn't have, like the circular ports on the side of the hull along with the side tool placements. It helps that the Tiger (P) had been teased by the official site several weeks back. Here's an official giveout image where you see a Tiger P among the tanks shown (it's to the right of the Churchill). But it also shows tiger 212 ( a tiger that took part in the battle of Villers-Bocage with the famous Michael Wittmann) Its position with the other main tanks indicates to me that one lucky (very lucky) team will get their hands on a tiger. Naturally this makes me very happy...GO TEAM TIGER! |
| 私のホバークラフトはウナギでいっぱいです。 |
| Among the Anchovies, there's one yellow tank (behind the commander's) that looks really small. The hull length is probably only as long as the crew's body height. Any information about the model ? |
| Now they got some serious firepower now that they got a tiger in their possession |
Aversa said: That canon the found didn't appear to be part of the first tank they found and the second tank they found already had a tank. So i wonder if they will find the tank which that canon belonged to. It's an upgrade for Ankou Team's Panzer IV. |
zenjamibu said: What's the advantage of that canon over the current canon there using?Aversa said: That canon the found didn't appear to be part of the first tank they found and the second tank they found already had a tank. So i wonder if they will find the tank which that canon belonged to. It's an upgrade for Ankou Team's Panzer IV. And what's the reason why some tanks have a canon with a short barrel while others have a long barrel? |
Jyuu-niDesu said: cruiser2710 said: Every feature on the tank I can see points to it being the Tiger (P), since it has visible features that the Tiger H (aka the Tiger everyone knows) doesn't have, like the circular ports on the side of the hull along with the side tool placements. It helps that the Tiger (P) had been teased by the official site several weeks back. Here's an official giveout image where you see a Tiger P among the tanks shown (it's to the right of the Churchill). I'm also interested in that gun they found. Certainly looks like a Kwk 40 (not sure if L/43 or 48 though). On the one hand, that's a huge firepower improvement if they can upgun Miho's tank - by comparison, that side-turret shot on the Churchill that did nothing even point-blank (88mm armor VS <50mm penetration) would be fatal even at 600m for an L/43, and 800m or so for an L/48. The L/48 can also penetrate a Tiger from any angle at 100m. On the other, the Panzer IVF that was converted to use that had a completely new turret. Fun fact though: if an L/43, it's the exact same gun that their StuG IIIF has. The B1 bis is interesting, but I'm curious how much it'll contribute. The thing is very well armored (60mm front, 55mm side, pretty much immune to Miho's current L/24 gun), but Churchill/Matilda slow, and the 47mm gun is only slightly better than the 37mm gun on the Pz 38(t) - or completely outclassed by it if the 37mm's rarer tungsten round is used - the 75mm howitzer (which has no traverse) is of only limited use at best and has penetration that doesn't significantly exceed that of the 47mm because, well, it's an artillery gun with naturally lower velocity. I also feel sorry for the poor girl stuck commanding it since she has to play gunner, loader, radio operator, and commander. The Tiger does, at a glance, appear like it might be a Porsche version, and if so, that's also interesting. The Porsche one, IIRC, was faster, but beyond that was inferior in just about every important area to its competitor. The forward mounted gun made maneuvering in hilly or restricted terrain more difficult (since the gun prodrudes further from the hull), it was less maneuverable, and it had a notoriously unreliable drive train. On the other hand, with only 2 examples (though 5 were built, 3 were downgraded to recovery vehicles), there's a 50/50 chance that it would be the one that saw combat. Edit: The primary relevance of barrel length is muzzle velocity. Without getting technical in the whys and hows, we can simply put it that the longer the barrel, the greater the potential muzzle velocity, but also the greater the design issues and cost. This is usually measured as a ratio of barrel length to bore diameter (ie, the Panzer IV's 75mm L/24 has a barrel length of about 1.8m). Higher muzzle velocity equals higher penetration, so longer-barreled guns are favored for tank VS tank combat. Cheaper, shorter barreled guns, on the other hand, are good for fire support. Miho's Panzer IVC, for example, was originally intended to engage infantry and fortifications, not other tanks (that was the Panzer III's job), hence a low-velocity short-barreled gun. The original StuG III was the same, but starting with the StuG IIIF, they added a newer, longer-barreled gun to give it the ability to take out then-current medium and heavy tanks like the T-34 and KV-1, which the Panzer III fleet was helpless against (and they could not be sufficiently up-gunned). |
ErwinJANov 27, 2012 7:29 AM
Aversa said: What's the advantage of that canon over the current canon there using? And what's the reason why some tanks have a canon with a short barrel while others have a long barrel? Longer barrel means higher muzzle velocity = higher penetration. Also the difference between long and short barrels - "long barrels" (like let's say Tiger's 88mm) were generally used as anti-tank while short ones (like KV-2's 152mm) were generally howitzers, using high explosive ammunition to destroy fortifications etc. |
orzel286Nov 27, 2012 12:59 PM
| From OP, I think two new teams in the future would be These students  and Sodoko team   |
| Reply to: no_good_name Post #25 cool picture, got any group ones of team rabbit? I just found one clear picture showing all six members of Team Rabbit:  It seems that Saki is (top left) the only GaruPan character who is extremely popular, apart from the five girls on the Ankou team. Some amateur artists are posting their work online. Here is a good doujinshi sketch of Saki: Click here: http://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/025/750/86/N000/000/000/135148453078213207727_1128k.JPG If the link doesn't work, then cut and paste the URL to another browser. |
okanaganNov 27, 2012 8:40 AM
| @orzel286: Thanks for answering Aversa's questions. Not really a tank expert. Also about the missing tank, I think it will come up eventually and it's possible crew could be the 4 members of the mechanics/motor club in the OP since they have a Lion symbol there as a subtle hint for a possible team name, I guess. :) |
| Kinda disappointed near the ending but I'm happy for them. Loved Mako's faces when they were in the dark. She's more scared at ghost than waking up early in the morning.. forever my favorite! ^^ |
Jyuu-niDesu said: Thanks for pointing that out , can't wait to see more tiger in the next ep . And from the op credits, what looks like sodoko team will be commanding either the the IV or the Tiger( all three ranks are dark grey and if you look closely bottom of that bird pics, a white paint. Both tanks have that white word in the side), altough I skeptical about this because they only show 3 members and both tanks require at least 4 (maybe another tank!) They don't have to have full members for each tanks. For example: In Student Council team - Momo acts as both gunner and loader, and Anzu acts as both commander and operator. M3 Lee also need one more loader (for its main gun) but Ayumi (main gun's gunner) acts as both gunner/loader. zenjamibu said: @orzel286: Thanks for answering Aversa's questions. Not really a tank expert. Also about the missing tank, I think it will come up eventually and it's possible crew could be the 4 members of the mechanics/motor club in the OP since they have a Lion symbol there as a subtle hint for a possible team name, I guess. :) Hey, good eyes! I didn't notice that Lion avartar for mechanics club before.  Look like there are many hints in OP ~ Other hints we have found so far... (in spoiler to safe space) |
okanagan said: Reply to: no_good_name Post #25 cool picture, got any group ones of team rabbit? I just found one clear picture showing all six members of Team Rabbit: It seems that Saki is (top left) the only GaruPan character who is extremely popular, apart from the five girls on the Ankou team. Some amateur artists are posting their work online. Here is a good doujinshi sketch of Saki: Never thought she would be probably. But I guess, quiet girls have a special charm inside of them. Aya and Yuuki are my favorites for team Rabbit. |
Marina2 said: Jyuu-niDesu said: Thanks for pointing that out , can't wait to see more tiger in the next ep . And from the op credits, what looks like sodoko team will be commanding either the the IV or the Tiger( all three ranks are dark grey and if you look closely bottom of that bird pics, a white paint. Both tanks have that white word in the side), altough I skeptical about this because they only show 3 members and both tanks require at least 4 (maybe another tank!) They don't have to have full members for each tanks. For example: In Student Council team - Momo acts as both gunner and loader, and Anzu acts as both commander and operator. M3 Lee also need one more loader (for its main gun) but Ayumi (main gun's gunner) acts as both gunner/loader. zenjamibu said: @orzel286: Thanks for answering Aversa's questions. Not really a tank expert. Also about the missing tank, I think it will come up eventually and it's possible crew could be the 4 members of the mechanics/motor club in the OP since they have a Lion symbol there as a subtle hint for a possible team name, I guess. :) Hey, good eyes! I didn't notice that Lion avartar for mechanics club before. Look like there are many hints in OP ~ Other hints we have found so far... (in spoiler to safe space) OPs usually spoils or gives clues about future episodes. Those anime logos give clues of future and upcoming tank crew members. |
| lol you know how we sometimes complain that a show is moving too slowly......well this one is sipping through it. i guess they want to skip to the main event. |
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